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Bad News/Good News: Marco Rubio and Democratic Turnout

Bad news:

Ignoring inconvenient facts doesn’t make them go away. Conservatives have relied on Rasmussen polls for a while and shouldn’t dismiss ones they don’t like. The new Rasmussen poll shows Charlie Crist leading Marco Rubio by four. Rasmussen has been accurate and that number is above the margin of error. Its a fight.

Good news:

Democratic turnout flopped yesterday. Polls and public sentiment are part of the equation. Enthusiasm and turnout are something different. Yesterday, we got some hints about the latter. Hotline has the numbers:

In primaries in NC, IN and OH, Dems turned out at far lower rates than they have in previous comparable elections.

Just 663K OH voters cast ballots in the competitive primary between LG Lee Fisher (D) and Sec/State Jennifer Brunner (D). That number is lower than the 872K voters who turned out in ’06, when neither Gov. Ted Strickland (D) nor Sen. Sherrod Brown (D) faced primary opponents.

Only 425K voters turned out to pick a nominee against Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC). The 14.4% turnout was smaller than the 444K voters — or 18% of all registered Dem voters — who turned out in ’04, when Gov. Mike Easley (D) faced only a gadfly candidate in his bid to be renominated for a second term.

And in IN, just 204K Hoosiers voted for Dem House candidates, far fewer than the 357K who turned out in ’02 and the 304K who turned out in ’06.

2010:

It will be a conservative year, but not because the majority of Americans suddenly morphed into fundemental constitutional conservatives. This is still the same country that broke voting records to elect Obama and give the Democrats super-majorities in both houses. The country is trending conservative, but it is not conservative. A truly conservative electorate is still a generation away.

But we will win. The electorate is fickle and angry. Independents are disillusioned. Moderates are trending conservative and want the country to pivot back towards smaller government. Democrats are in the dumps. Conservatives are soaring. A realistic assessment enhances our chances; it does not hinder them. We shouldn’t hide from tough facts and polls. We need to channel our energies, make wise decisions and act accordingly.

COMMENTS

  • IJB

    The best day Independent candidates have in polls is the day they announce.

    Frankly, I am stunned that that many Floridians (esp. Republicans) are drinking the Crist Kool-Aid at this moment, but there’s no way Crist’s numbers will hold up.

    Issue #1 with the Rasmussen poll is Meek being down under 20%. On Election Day – AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN. There is no way that many partisan FL Dems are going to abandon their candidate. I can’t imagine a single thing, short of Meek getting caught with a dead girl or a live boy that would cause Democrat loyalists to abandon their candidate that way.

    The way I figure it, once advertising starts, etc., the Dem candidate (likely Meek) has a ‘floor’ of about 33% support. I figure Rubio’s real ‘floor’ of support is around 40% (he’ll definitely do better that 34%) – I expect Rubio will ultimately hold at least 70-80% of Republicans, and most right-leaning Indies.

    If I’m right, that doesn’t give Crist a realistic path to victory – the best he can likely do on Election Day is 25%. And once voters figure that truth out on their own, Crist’s numbers will plummet, likely down to less than 15% or possibly even less that 10% once the Election Day vote results pour in.

    Crist’s only path to victory is if Meek’s support evaporates, and I just don’t see Dems abandoning their candidate.

    • Swamp_Yankee

      There is serious talk on liberal boards about abandoning ship.

      Whether you like Crist or not, he has the potential to blow out 25%. Sometimes, all politics is local. Throughout Marco’s surge, he held on to a good portion of Republicans. Now, as an Indie, he can tap into the anti-establishment, anti-partisan crowd that hates both the Dems and the GOP. A lot of GOP poll numbers are being buoyed by disgruntled conservative Democrats and Independents.

      I dont know if it will hold. The biggest problem they have is fundraising. But Crist positioned himself for a stronger run by quitting the GOP. Rasmussen is a good. I dont think that this poll is a lie.

      • IJB

        Imagine for a minute – you’re an Independent voter. Chances are, right now, you’re biggest concern is stopping the Pelosi/Reid/Obama agenda. What are you going to do? – Are you going to vote for some vain, self-proclaimed Indie who may *still* be a vote for the Obama agenda (and may still vote for Reid as Majority Leader!), or are you going to vote for Rubio who you *know* is a vote against that agenda?!

        Once the race is put in those terms, anti-Obama voters will run to Rubio, and pro-Obama voters will go to Meek.

        The *only* way Crist can win this is a la Lieberman – if nearly every partisan Dem voter abandons Meek and flocks to Crist. And even then, Crist *still* has to get over, 1) the general anti-Obama mood of the electorate (in FL), and 2) the 5-15% that Meek would still draw even if the DSCC throws him overboard.

        The current environment does not favor Independents (see: NJ Gov 2009). Unless the DSCC and partisan FL Dem voters throw Meek under the bus, Crist will have no path to victory; and I doubt he’ll even have a path to stopping Rubio.

  • lineholder

    is something on the minds of people of my own state right now. Registered Democrat voters outnumber registered Republican voters, but there is a trend towards voters registering as independents right now. There was an opinion piece in the editorial of the local newpaper today about the desire for independent candidates (and a POSITIVE comparison was made to Crist’s going independent).

  • JadedByPolitics

    when 99% of the time he goes with LIKELY voters, might Scott Rasmussen have dog in this fight? me thinks so, when he comes out with his standard LIKELY voters I will pay attention!

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      over the age of 18 on Election Day. Very meaningless.

      • David123
        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine