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Illegals leaving AZ now that being illegal is… illegal.

By: Tabitha Hale (Diary)  |  April 28th, 2010 at 08:45 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

I’m pretty sure this was the point.

“Nobody wants to pick us up,” Julio Loyola Diaz says in Spanish as he and dozens of other men wait under the shade of palo verde trees and lean against a low brick wall outside the east Phoenix home improvement store.

Many day laborers like Diaz say they will leave Arizona because of the law, which also makes it a crime to be in the U.S. illegally and directs police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants.

And also:

Jose Armenta, a 33-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico’s western coast, is already planning to move to Utah within the next 20 days because of a combination of the economy and the new law.:

So let’s unpack this a little. A law designed to drive away illegal laborers to reduce the state’s 9.7% unemployment rate is… driving away illegal workers. Now, don’t get me wrong, I have some reservations regarding this bill, but this is not one of them. It’s exactly what the law was supposed to do! It’s a crack down on illegal laborers in an attempt to help those that are here legally.

Let’s all wait for the media to report on Arizona’s upcoming decrease in unemployment… or maybe not. It’s much more likely that we’ll be hearing stories about the poor illegals who were all of a sudden made, well, illegal by this law and forced to return home.

When did people obeying the law become a bad thing?

(H/T Dan Riehl)

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  • trutexan
    • Richard Mullins
      • texasgalt

        will be filling a bill similar to Arizona’s. Also Berman from Tyler has a bill in the works.

        We’ll see in January when the next session starts. It may not even be relevant by then.

        I have a hunch Perry may find a way to chip in on Arizona’s move. That would be a bold move but it would play well with the Medina hold-outs.

        http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/04/28/Texas-eyeing-Arizona-like-immigration-law/UPI-14361272493835/

        • Richard Mullins

          and I’m quite proud to vote for her. HB 48 and HB 49 are companion bills and only one made very far. She had that in the 81st legislature and hope she brings it again in the 82nd. I must say that it must be going better since started to tweet about it yesterday.

          • texasgalt

            If she files it and it gets a committee hearing, I think I just might go.

          • Richard Mullins

            That’s the committee that she filed this in last year. If you reintroduce this along with companion bill in State Affairs, you get a full package. If you want to send her a letter, I’ll try to look up her office for Texas House District 150 on F.M. 1960. I’m really happy to have her as a State Rep and Dan Patrick as a State Senator. As for the encouragement, she gets a lot on Twitter and now might equal Ted Poe’s time on TV. With Debbie Riddle in Tomball and Ted Poe in Humble, that 2 parts of a conservative juggernaut.

          • texasgalt

            to have quality representation. I have contact info for Rep Riddle.

            Listening to Perry today, doesn’t sound like he is inclined to support legislation like Riddle’s. The Gov throws just enough curveballs to cause a little heartburn.
            Just the way he is.

    • popdaddy

      The proud patriots who composed the Texas Constitution had the good sense to limit the damage future politicians might do. The state legislature only meets every two years for 140 days.
      We have to wait until the second Tuesday in January 2011 for the 82nd session to pass this bill. Well, right after they pass the photo voter ID bill!

      November and January can’t come quick enough in Texas!

  • tngal

    Unfortunately many aren’t planning on returning home. The stories already surfacing are that they will move to other states as they wait for the federal gov’t to come to their aid with amnesty. Several I read indicated California, although those interviewed never went into why california..

    Mr Diaz from above appears to be feeling the bite of the section of the law dealing speciifically with “Unlawfully Picking up Passengers for Work”

    Here are the 3 to most important to day laborers….

    “Specifies that it is a class 1 misdemeanor for an occupant of a motor vehicle that is stopped on a street, roadway, or highway to attempt to hire or hire and pick up passengers for work at a different location, if the motor vehicle blocks or impedes the normal movement of traffic.

    “Specifies that it is a class 1 misdemeanor for a person to enter a motor vehicle that is stopped on a street, roadway or highway in order to be hired by an occupant of the motor vehicle and to be transported to work at a different location, if the motor vehicle blocks or impedes the normal movement of traffic.

    “Specifies that it is a class 1 misdemeanor for a person who is unlawfully present who is an unauthorized alien to knowingly apply for work, solicit work in a public place or perform work as an employee or independent contractor.”

    *******

    This is one of the many ways this law deals with the root problem. The employers no longer want to pick up these individuals as they will slapped. granted its a class one mis- but still it stings.

    http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/2r/summary/h.sb1070_04-19-10_astransmittedtogovernor.doc.htm

    • konstantine

      if they don’t go back to mexico, they could always flood the sanctuary cities like san fran. The end result, crime will go down in places that drive them out, and (sad to see this happen but that’s the point) crime and added costs associated with harboring illegals will go up in places like san fran. Let them suffer.Maybe the people will vote out Newsom. Or maybe they won’t. Either way, places like Arizona and hopefully Texas will improve. Hopefully.

      Sounds good to me.

      • http://leehurdcpa.com LeeH

        boycott San Fran. Actually I have stayed away from there since the seventies. Look at the politicians that come out of there.The politics are similar here in San Jose, but it is a LOT cleaner and safer. It must be the higher average IQs.

        I read the bill (AZ SB 1070). I would like California to pass a similar bill. I don’t understand why there is opposition to following the law and protecting United States citizens. The political opposition appears to hate the US-maybe they are moles from the enemy. ha.

        • izoneguy

          I was there a few years ago with my wife. I had been there several times before we got married and she was dying to go. I think the experience soured her on “Romantic San Fran” There is nothing romantic about it anymore. It just plain sucks.

          Let the illegals take it over. Let Nancy Pelosi live her dream of a liberal utopia alongside of Juan & Juanita…..

    • NoDoze

      gives the police “legal contact” with suspected illegal workers, therefore it allows them to ask for identification.

      That was a smart move to include such a choke point.

  • Flagstaff

    had netted over 300 illegal workers. They were hauled away, according to either Mike Broomhead or Barry Young.

    Within a day, all the jobs had been re-filled by legal American workers.

    I can’t find it to verify it, but that was what was reported to me.

  • secondpatriot76

    Why would any law abiding American have a problem with this law? Illegal immigrants take jobs citizens can do and illegal immigrants bring diseases to our country.

    Illegal immigrants strain the emergency rooms and public schools. We need to build a wall and get the illegals out and keep them out. Period.

    • bobbymike

      But of course the reason is that it is a knee jerk “compassionate conservative, I’m sensitive to the minority communities” fear all us conservatives face, fear of being called a racist.

      • Jonas Parker

        The worm has turned. Your fear will always be exploited, but it’s just that: exploitation. The majority is now tired of the racial shtick and doesn’t buy it anymore. Just treat people with the respect you normally do and pursue what you think is right. You’ll be fine. They have overdone it and have cried wolf way too many times and people just don’t give a s*&^ anymore, absent some evidence of truly aggregious behavior.

    • mustango

      The possible Achilles heel for this law is the apparent doctrine that enforcement of immigration is the purview of the Federal government and the Federal government alone.

      We had that illustrated for us in the DFW area just recently as a court overturned an ordinance in the suburb of Farmers Branch which made it illegal to rent an apartment to an illegal alien. The stated basis for the overturning was not any kind of racial issue or vague notion of fairness but rather a decision that the ordinance amounted to enforcement of immigration law, which is apparently a no-no for a local government like the city of Farmers Branch.

      Of course, for Obama to tell Arizona, “we in Washington will decide how your border with Mexico is defended, not you”, while perhaps more legitimate from a legal standpoint, probably would be a little hard for even MSNBC to spin in a positive light. So instead we get this fatuous stuff that trashes a version of the law that only exists in their own imaginations. But that’s politics for you.

    • NoDoze

      n/t

  • Doc Holliday

    to San Francisco?

    • konstantine

      the bus.

    • Flagstaff

      about how one illegal border-crosser who has been living and working in Arizona is going to move to Utah within a couple of weeks, BECAUSE OF THIS LAW. So it seems to be working already.

      I hope they ALL move to San Francisco.

    • NoDoze

      the “anchor baby” law, policy, or whatever it is? This is one of the practices that makes illegal immigration so hard to sort out. Could an American woman go to Mexico and give birth to a Mexican citizen? Never!

  • jcincy

    I’m 100% for the Arizona illegal immigration law!

    I imagine the neighboring states are keeping a close eye on Arizona’s success.

    It’s time the states starting taking back their rights from Fedzilla.

  • tngal

    There were a few headlines, maybe 3 or four years ago wwhere some cities proclaimed themslves “immigrant friendly”. At the time I thought it was silly because all places are legal immigrant friendly. What they were seeking was theillegals. It was right abuot the last time there was an illegal alien bruhaha.

    • mbecker908

      And they would include virtually every major city including Phoenix and Tucson.

      • tngal

        i though about that while reading the story “sanctuary”. I jsut always called them illegal cities.. I though most were up north though. I wondered back when they first came out several years ago why would cities literally announce “we want people who are not here legally, come an overflow our schools with people who don’t speak the language, and our hospital which already overburdened, and hey when you don’t find jobs just bring your crime.”

        I never did get it. Maybe they ahd an incredible excess of taxes to accomodate the masses or maybe they hoped censuses would bring in more fed money. Talk about a here’s your sign moment.

      • hickorystick

        in Saint Francisco

  • Next93

    The rationale behind the “santuary city” policies is that illegals won’t cooperate with the police if the police are enforcing immigration law. This is one of those “nuanced” sophistries that convince the leftists that they are oh-so-smarter than us knuckle draggers.

    Problem is, the illegal community is no more likely to help out the police or to report crimes in sanctuary cities than they are anywhere else; when you’re here illegally you’re not going to go out of your way to come out of the shadows, no matter how many high-thinking academics tell you that it’s ok.

    So the situation is, after years of trying to make illegals as comfortable as possible, the sanctuary policies have failed to produce the desired effect, while the Arizona law has, within days of passage, started to do exactly what it was supposed to do.

    For some reason, the fact that liberal policies almost never work (or never work according to thier stated intentions), doesn’t seem to deter liberals, any more than the fact that conservative policies are usually far more effective.

    Wonder why you never see that mentioned in the news media?

    • Leopard1996

      We are judged on results. Their good intention is good enough for the media, but we need to show results or else we are failures.

      • Jonas Parker

        We need to do what is right, and not worry about the media. You shouldn’t even be listening to anything but FOX and talk radio. Why torture yourself ? You will be much happier if you just tune them out. You will never win in their eyes. The only thing we can do with them is defeat them.

        Conservatives better darn quick get over this old sadistic habit of allowing the media to reflect them, in their own minds.

        Think PRAVDA. It is completely accurate. Ignore Pravda and do what you know is right. The majority is tired of Pravda and will support what they know is the right direction (of course, conservatives need to remain non-violent, non-racist by objective standards… and not get too crazy here). This is win-able. It’s like walking into a cold wind… you lower your head, pull the woolies over your ears, and put one foot in front of the other, in the right direction. To do less is to give it up to darkness and chaos. Can’t do that. At the very least, go down fighting.

  • annas

    was so disgusting I turned it off ! Juan Williams and Linda Chavez bashing Republicans and giving the impression that Hispanic votes would be lost by Republicans over this. WHO cares. I am sick of American citizens footing the bill and being killed over illegals. I would rather Republicans stand up for the law than be elected!

    • NoDoze

      was such a political loser, why is it that 65 to 70% in Arizona approve of it? I suspect that if a nationwide poll were taken on the question, the same percentages would be reflected.

  • shaitra

    I’ll be going to counter-protest and hope others do the same as well.

  • Common_Cents

    One way to expose the idiocy of an ultra liberal like Gavin Newsome of SanFran and now Bloomberg of NYC is to ship every single illegal rounded up to the city hall doorsteps of those cities. What would Newsome do with thousands of illegals dropped off at his door step.

    make those idiots put up or shut up.

    It’s probably cheaper putting them on a bus to those cities than go through the process of deportation.

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  • fotophun

    the Mexican do not take kindly to illegal aliens
    but they do not have a problem pawning their people on us

    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/mexicos-tough-anti-immigration-laws

    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/mexico-bars-non-natives-from-many-jobs

    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/mexico-treats-illegal-aliens-very-harshly

  • itdiehard

    Provide iphone app to navigate to Sanctuary City SF and have free watering holes marked on the route. Put out to State Police all illegals on the route will not be stop or question and directions given if requested. This is the policy of Mexico and party of nations without boarders.