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The not-Mitt summit

A whole day has passed since the Iowa caucus and watching the fall out of the results has been interesting, to say the least. First, there was the ungracious “concession” speech by Newt Gingrich, a temper tantrum lasting through the following day. Then, Rush Limbaugh, in his monologue, accused the Iowa GOP of delaying the counting of the final ballots so they could steal the caucus for Mitt Romney. Also, a group consisting of top conservative leaders are organizing an emergency meeting this week-end to form a consensus for one Republican candidate. An invitation was sent reading:

 You and your spouse are cordially invited to a private meeting with national conservative leaders of faith at the ranch of Paul and Nancy Pressler near Brenham, Texas, with the purpose of attempting to unite and to come to a consensus on which Republican presidential candidate or candidates to support, or which not to support

The list of invitees includes many from the “religious right.” They include:

  • James Dobson, founder of Faith in Family
  • Richard Land,  president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission
  • Kelly Shackleford,  president and CEO of Liberty Institute
  • John Hagee, Worldwide Ministry Pastor
  • Don Wildmon, founder of the American Family Association

While Gary Bauer, former presidential candidate, claims the meeting is not part of a ”Stop Mitt” movement and states he will withdraw his participation if the meeting turns into such a thing. a source for the Dallas Morning News states; ‘”One thing unites all in this group – Romney is not their guy.”

It is going to be interesting to see what developes from this meeting. One thing is for sure, Mitt Romney has a long, tough slog if he wants to be the Republican nominee. While Republicans are united in their desire to make President Obama a one term President, the infighting may damage the party beyond repair.  Whoever the nominee is, they will not only have to mend the country but also the party they represent.

COMMENTS

  • williamjameson

    with the other candidates. Hope a presser follows so we can review highlights of the discussion.

  • texastaxpayer

    I challenge any Mitt supporter to provide credible evidence that disproves that statement. At best (and even this is a stretch) Romney is a moderate.

  • westcoastpatriette

    And so far, these kinds of attempts to influence voters has backfired since the conservative base is so fractured at this point.

    And I wonder what Richard Land is doing in that group. From what I have read about him, he uses biblical principles to push liberal government solutions including some form of amnesty for illegal aliens.

  • bogeyman

    from spending. That is way, way way more than Reagan, Bush 41 or Bush 43. If he could do that it would be truly historic.

    He also said he would deport Obama’s illegal alien uncle. Yeh baby!

  • nuclear139

    I disagree with the claim that Mitt is a moderate because any one who makes that claim is not looking at his record. Looking at Mass his record on healthcare, on taxes, job creation as well as environmentalism he is no moderate. The greatest lie the devil ever told was when he said to Eve “if you bite this apple you will live forever”. Don’t bite the apple, and do not listen to those who tell you Romney is a moderate. The man is a centrist like the mayor of New York Mike Bloomberg and a snake that tells concervatives that he is one of them and all they have to do is take a bite of the apple to beat Obama.

  • ceili_dancer

    The 500 billion is over 10 years, making a 50 billion cut in growth of the deficit. With the annual deficits at over 1.3 trillion, the 50 billion is not much. I REALLY wish one of the candidates would vow to remove baseline as the means to budget. This is just a way to demagogue any reduction in growth. I think congress needs topo earn their keep and build annual budgets on need, not how much we spent last year and add 5%. Again, not to beat a dead horse, this only codifies the growth of government.

  • texastaxpayer

    He says he will cut $500 billion from an inflated fed budget and he will deport Obama’s uncle? While certainly Obama’s illegal uncle is the worst problem facing our nation. Exactly how is this credible evidence Romney is a conservative? Romney’s plan is an encyclopedic approach to saying “I will change absolutely nothing”. 500 billion is a joke, we borrow nearly three times that a year.

    You should really take a moment a reconsider your support. I mean really “he will deport Obama’s uncle” is one of your top two arguments for supporting this fraud? Either your confused as to the pillars of the conservative platform or you are incapable of distinguishing fantasy from reality. Romney is not a conservative and you cant produce anything he has “done” to disprove that statement. If you are a conservative that should bother you.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    and insults my intelligence.

    He plans to “reform” rather than repeal Obamaneycare. That’s reason enough not to vote for Romney.

  • jakeofalltrades

    When people start up with me in person with their birther nonsense (I live in the South) I totally go along with it but twist it to say that I don’t think Obama was born. Anywhere. At all. And say I have proof his belly button was airbrushed onto the beach photos of him.

  • carolynr

    and nobody made a big deal about it. He kind of flew it under the radar. However, if you listen to his remarks….he grand plan…he will allow insurance companies to insure us…that way he is a free market guy…but…here is the rub…the government will administer it.

    So forget what the doc says you need…it still goes through the Federal government….we are still stuck with mega big government…which means mega big taxes.

    Whoever wants to make the claim that Romney is a moderate needs to read a little more on progressives.

  • explodinghead

    I am part of the anyone but Mitt crowd, but it just crystalized this morning. I have been thinking about what my priorities are for the election, what is most important:
    1) The Supreme Court (because if Dems can’t win elections they use the courts to get their way, and the Supremes are life-timers.)

    2) The economy and spending

    3) National security

    I have been trying to decide my preference order among the candidates, so based on the Supreme court, it is:

    1) Perry; 2) Gingrich/Santorum (equal as yet), 3) Paul !
    and then I almost had a stroke.
    I had to doublecheck my sanity, but it occurred to me that Paul would nominate Constitutional conservatives with a hands-off-our rights approach, and he is pro-life so I don’t think he would appoint a pro-choicer.
    Romney, I’m really not sure , I worry he would give us another Souter or worse.
    I am not, repeat not, a Ron Paul supporter at all, he is crazy in regards to foreign policy. But when you can safely say he will nominate more conservative Constitutional judges than candidate B, should we even be considering candidate B, when we are still in the primary season? Of course I will hold my nose in the General, but this is still the primary, and I will not lay off my criticism of Romney as long as there are any other Conservatives left in the race.

  • texastaxpayer

    :P

  • david1313

    It is certainly possible. He will get away with a lot more because he is ‘republican.’ His nominations to the court in Mass. certainly are to the left of any O. would attempt.

  • nuclear139

    I agree with you my first choice in this race is not Romney either. If he is our nominee you don’t have to hold your nose to to vote for him come November just put on a blind fold and pretend your voting concervative. He is a centrist at heart and if we don’t elect a Republican congress he will govern to the left of the party.

  • carolynr

    You need only go and look at the record in Texas and who Perry appointed…ONLY STRICT Constitutionalists.

  • texastaxpayer

    In my defense I did say moderate at best and prefaced that with (even that’s a stretch)..

  • carolynr

    nt

  • bogeyman

    from its present level of 25%of GDP to a more historic level of 20%. This is not as aggressive as Paul or even Perry, but it is a proposed reduction of historic proportions if he can pull it off.. It is one thing to get on a soapbox and say that you are going to eliminate the Department of Education and it is something else to actually do it. Not even Reagan could do that.

    From his website:

    Immediately cut non-security discretionary spending by 5 percent
    Reform and restructure Medicaid as block grant to states
    Align wages and benefits of government workers with market rates
    Reduce federal workforce by 10 percent via attrition
    Undertake fundamental restructuring of government programs and services

    Cap and Balance the Federal Budget

    We also must put controls in place to ensure that we never see a repeat of the explosive spending and borrowing of the past few years. As president, Mitt Romney will immediately move to cut spending and cap it at 20 percent of GDP. As spending comes under control, he will pursue further cuts that would allow caps to be set even lower so as to guarantee future fiscal stability. A Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution is also necessary to ensure that our nation embarks on a path of long-term fiscal discipline, and as president, Romney will introduce one in Congress and fight for its passage.
    Cap federal spending at 20 percent of GDP
    Pursue a Balanced Budget Amendment

  • texastaxpayer

    That is not credible proof that he is a conservative. He “said” in 2002 he was “Pro Choice” he then said in 2007 he is “Pro Life”. He said in 1994 “He is not a Reagan republican”, he “said” in 2011 “Reagan is one of my hero’s”. Seems Willard likes to “say” what people want to hear. So again please provide credible evidence Romney is a conservative. If you can’t and you consider yourself a conservative perhaps you should rethink your support.

  • bogeyman

    Romney strongly opposed same-sex marriage during his governorship. He emphasized his desire to “protect the institution of marriage” while denouncing discrimination against gays and lesbians. “Like me, the great majority of Americans wish both to preserve the traditional definition of marriage and to oppose bias and intolerance directed towards gays and lesbians,” Romney said in 2004.[71]

    On June 2, 2006, Romney sent a letter to each member of the U.S. Senate urging them to vote in favor of the Marriage Protection Amendment.[72] In the letter, Romney stated that the debate over same-sex unions is not a discussion about “tolerance”, but rather a “debate about the purpose of the institution of marriage”. Romney wrote, “Attaching the word marriage to the association of same-sex individuals mistakenly presumes that marriage is principally a matter of adult benefits and adult rights. In fact, marriage is principally about the nurturing and development of children. And the successful development of children is critical to the preservation and success of our nation.”

    Upon entering office, Romney faced a $3 billion deficit. Facing an immediate fiscal shortfall, the governor asked the state legislature for emergency powers to make “9C” cuts to the fiscal year 2003 budget. Romney cut spending and restructured state government.

    With the help of a reviving economy, Romney and the state legislature were able to balance the state budget and replenish the state’s “rainy day fund” through government consolidation and reform. As a result of the fiscal turnaround, Romney repeatedly pushed the state legislature to roll back the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0% (Massachusetts has a flat income tax).[24] He also proposed a “tax-free shopping day”,[25] a property tax relief for Seniors,[26] and a manufacturing tax credit.

    In 2006, the Massachusetts legislature approved a budget that required spending $450 million from the rainy day fund. Even though the state had collected a record-breaking amount of tax revenue in the fiscal year, the funds were needed to cover the increased spending.[27] Romney vetoed the transfer of funds from the contingency account and used his emergency “9C” cuts to balance the state budget. “One of the primary responsibilities of government is keeping the books balanced,” said Romney “The problem here is not revenues; the problem is overspending. The level of spending which we’re looking at would put us on the same road to financial crisis and ruin that our commonwealth has been down before.”[28] The veto was overturned by the legislature, and all 250 of Romney’s 2006 vetoes were overturned by the Massachusetts Legislature.[29][17]

    In December 2004, Romney announced plans to file a death penalty bill in early 2005. The bill, filed April 28, 2005, sought to reinstate the death penalty in cases that include terrorism, the assassination of law enforcement officials and multiple killings. Romney’s legislation required the presence of scientific evidence such as DNA to sentence someone to death and a tougher standard of “no doubt” of guilt for juries to sentence defendants. The legislation called for a pool of certified capital case lawyers to ensure proper representation for the accused and allowed jurors who do not personally support the death penalty to serve in the guilt phase of the trial.[93] Romney said; “In the past, efforts to reinstate the death penalty in Massachusetts have failed. They have failed because of concerns that it would be too broadly applied or that evidentiary standards weren’t high enough or proper safeguards weren’t in place. We have answered all those concerns with this bill.”[94] The Massachusetts House of Representatives defeated the bill 99-53.

    In May 2005, Romney presented a proposal to the Massachusetts General Court to crack down on repeat drunk drivers. Massachusetts had some of the weakest drunk driving laws of any state in the country, and the state was losing $9 million annually from its highway budget because existing laws were not in compliance with federal standards.[95] Romney called his proposal “Melanie’s Bill” in honor of Melanie Powell, a 13-year-old who was killed in 2003 by a repeat drunk driver while walking to the beach with friends. The bill included provisions that gave prosecutors greater power to go after repeat offenders with increased penalties. It also increased license suspensions, raised sentencing guidelines and required repeat drunk drivers to install ignition-interlock devices in their vehicles. The state House Judiciary Committee removed many of the bill’s provisions and sent the reduced version to an eventual conference committee.[96] Romney criticized the “watered down” bill, which he said reflected the interests of defense lawyers, and sent the bill back to legislators with amendments to restore some of the original provisions.[97] On October 28, 2005, Romney signed the amended version of the bill, which approved two of Romney’s three amendments and rejected Romney’s provision for increasing penalties for motorists who refuse to take a breathalyzer test.[98][99] Eleven months after the enactment of Melanie’s Law, arrests of repeat drunk drivers decreased by half, and the number of drivers agreeing to breathalyzer tests increased by more than 18 percent.[99]

    Romney was the first governor in modern Massachusetts history to deny every request for a pardon or commutation during his four years in office. He denied 100 requests for commutations and 172 requests for pardons, including the request from a soldier serving in Iraq to be pardoned for a conviction at age 13 involving a BB gun.[101]

    In February 2005, Romney filed legislation to increase benefits for Massachusetts National Guard members.[citation needed] Working with the state legislature, Romney developed the “Welcome Home Bill” which provides guardsman with reduced life-insurance premiums and free tuition and fees at Massachusetts universities and community colleges.[122] The bill also increases daily state active-duty pay rate from $75 to $100, and increases the death benefit paid to families of Guard members killed in the line of duty from $5,000 to $100,000.[

    Romney vetoed a bill in 2004 that would have allowed illegal immigrants to obtain in-state tuition rates at state colleges if they graduated from a Massachusetts high school after attending it for at least three years and signed an affidavit affirming that they intended to seek citizenship. Romney argued that the bill would cost the state government $15 million and that Massachusetts should not reward illegal immigration Quite different from Rick Perry

  • gekster

    You start out with “Romney strongly opposed same-sex marriage during his governorship.”

    Then explain this please.
    Romney Offers Mixed Message on Gay Marriage

    excerpt:
    As a gay-marriage proponent, I was pleased to learn that then-Gov. Willard Mitt Romney, R-Mass., issued at least 189 special-issue, one-day marriage licenses to same-sex couples in 2005 alone. These documents let these 378 people enjoy nuptials officiated by relatives, friends, and others who normally do not perform weddings.

    and:
    Romney’s inconsistent words and deeds leave GOP voters two options: Fans of gay marriage should thank Romney for these 189 or more instances in which he voluntarily used his gubernatorial authority to unite these same-sex couples so they might live happily ever after.

  • texastaxpayer

    Funny that you would start with gay marriages. Since you brought it up.

    When then Governor Romney declared after the Goodridge ruling (that was inaccurately said to

  • mikeymike143

    my type of guy!!!

  • lineholder

    state managed capitalism rather than free-market capitalism is when they say they want “government to administer it”.

    We need more free-market capitalism options in health care, not less.

  • JSobieski

    It is quite possible that is what is meant by “administer” in this context.

    Between the influence of tax policy and the influence of insurance regulation (which at least at the state level, is nothing new), government does a lot of administration.

    I think it would be better for us to dig in and see if we can fathom a more precise meaning. You are right to exhibit some initail skepticism, but the challenge of fixing healthcare is that so much of it is currently government this and government that.

    Directional reform in a positive direction is still going to involve government, in the same way that government reform of SS will still involve an SS adminstration and FICA taxes.

  • lineholder

    I will own it as such, although I despise it for the most part, LOL.

    I do think there are things that states could be doing even now that could have a positive impact on the situation and possibly, to some extent, alter the outcomes of what we might find ourselves facing in 2014 when the public health insurance exchange kicks in (unless by some miracle, God willing, this monstrosity is repealed).

    Expanding health insurance purchasing coalitions is one idea. Quite a few states do allow for purchasing coalitions, although in most cases the quantities allowed per coalition are quite low. But for small business owners in particular, if states expanded purchasing coalitions, this could provide them with greater options than what they have now.

  • carolynr

    I think I posted some time ago that daughter called and said…Mom .. you have to read up on Healthy Texas…this is the best thing for businesses in Texas. I did. This health insurance lowers costs by 30%…it’s not just the tort reform…it is something else.

  • lineholder

    Seriously. The last time I checked, which was a good while back, the state of Texas had a 50 person limit written into the law pertaining to health insurance purchasing coalitions. The coalition allows business owners to join forces under one policy, and for small business owners, it can be a tremendous opportunity.

    But even more so now than it might have been in the past, this is a possibility that should be considered. Small business owners will be extremely vulnerable when the public health insurance exchange kicks in. Those with under 13 employees would get subsidies to cover insurance for their employees. Those with 51+ employees would get hit with employer mandate of $2,000 per employer (which could stifle growth or even generate firing employees in some cases).

    If Texas has altered that law, expanding the number of people who could be included in a coalition, this is smart choice to make. It expands the risk pool, which lowers costs for premiums.

  • lineholder

    No, purchasing coalitions are something totally different from this Healthy Texas program.

  • texashistorian

    so that small businesses can buy insurance for their employees at reduced rates. I believe there is pool at work where several small businesses are lumped together, but the state pays part of the costs of the coverage.

  • bogeyman

    than income tax hikes. Many of these fees had not been raised in decades. I believe the Commonwealth was charging $400 for highway advertising signs and Romney upped them to $2,000. This is simply recognizing the sign’s fair market value.

    The concept behind the fee is that it should reflect the underlying cost of the service being provided. So that the cost of getting a driver’s license should cover the cost of running the DMV. A person that does not drive should not have to pay an income tax to support an agency for drivers. People that go boating should support the coast guard rather than people who do not. When you raise income taxes, you discourage people from earning income, which eventually kills jobs. Romney was clearly for lowereing the income tax, but was overridden by the legislature. I believe Reagan raised some fees if I am not mistaken.

    The fact is, Romney was faced with a $3Bll shorfall. He cut spending, rased some fees, closed a few corporate loopholes, proposed an income tax decrease and created a budget surplus. This sounds pretty good to me, and I hope that he does this at the Federal level if he gets the chance.

    I would agree with your statement that “only the legislature can creat law” and that the courts should interpret the law, but we both know that has not been happening. How we as a society should deal with judicial activism has been a perplexing issue. Has Rick Perry declared that he will ignore Rowe vs Wade? Are abortions now illegal in Texas? Yet you criticise Romeny for not ignoring the Massachuestts Courts.

    Newt Gingrich has brought the issue up in the debates. I don’t think I would take his approach. What should be done, is that judges who have taken a brazenly activist approach should be impeached. This is an entirely constitutional , as impeachment is cleary defined in the constitution.

    I would love to continue with this discussion, but I really must get some work done. Thank you for your response and frank opinions.