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Texas GOP Primary Debate, Perry vs. KBH Live Blog

Tonight was the first debate in the Texas GOP primary. Governor Rick Perry and Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison squared off and were joined by lesser known GOP contender, Debra Medina. Skip toward the bottom of the post for a minute by minute breakdown of the debate. All times are Central.

Post Game Chatter

Governor Perry’s campaign statement on tonight’s debate:

“Tonight’s debate gave Texans the chance to hear competing visions for our state’s future while reflecting on the remarkable success story our state has written over the last several years.

“As our nation’s economy continues to struggle, our best prospects lie with maintaining our job-friendly climate, continuing to strengthen our education system, keeping our border secure and pushing back against the flood of misguided policies pouring out of Washington.

“I hope that our success has earned the confidence of Texas voters and that they will continue supporting me in leading our state with hard work, innovation and careful fiscal stewardship.”

Senator Hutchison’s first statement about the debate:

Via <a href=”http://twitter.com/TeamKay/status/7771020615″>Twitter</a>:

A decisive victory for Kay in the first debate.”

Did they watch the exchanges about abortion and bailouts?

Statement from Rick Perry’s Campaign Manager, Rob Johnson:

“Tonight, the Governor spoke about his record of fiscal discipline; Rick Perry is the only Texas governor since World War II to sign a budget that cut general revenue spending in the state budget— and he’s done it twice. Governor Perry explained how Texas is standing up to Washington’s wasteful spending and one-size-fits-all mandates. He spoke about how Texas is taking the lead in securing our border because of Washington’s failure to do so. He also noted that Texas has some of the strongest accountability and curriculum standards in education and that student test scores have been rising under his leadership.

Tonight, the Governor articulated his unwavering Texas values and his record of proven conservative leadership, and we are asking you to actively help Gov. Perry spread his conservative message and the Texas success story. Your advocacy will keep our tremendous momentum building and help us grow the largest grassroots effort in Texas’ history! Thanks to all the hard work you’re doing to help the campaign, we are positioned for a strong finish over the next few weeks.”

Live Blog of Debate

7:59 – And, we’re done. Stay tuned, right here for analysis and responses from the campaigns.

7:56 – KBH: Texas is the best state in the nation. Trying to hit on toll roads and private property rights.

7:55 – Perry’s up: The reason we have the opportunity to exchange these ideas is the protection of the military.  Texas is the land of opportunity, and there is something special going on here. Sound fiscal decisions over the past several years have gotten us here.

7:53 – Closing statements. Medina up first thanking debate for allowing her to come, offering “the road less traveled.”

7:52 – Question about immigration to each of the candidates.  Perry points out that KBH voted for sanctuary cities, and says that we should rout out those who hire illegal immigrants.  Perry: That’s the best way to reduce illegal immigration here in Texas.

7:50 – Perry: We did this in 2003. I already have the experience to trim the budget where needed. Perry points out that KBH has voted to raise the debt ceiling nine times in Washington.

7:49 – KBH’s response: I have balanced a budget, run a small business, and that’s the kind of experience needed to handle the state budget.

KBH thinks cuts need to be made to state agencies now, and consolidate state agencies, now going way over on time.

7:43 – Question for all three candidates. “How are you going to deal with state budget in the next legislative session?”

7:42 – KBH to Perry, asking him about his record on Texas. Perry – we have the second lowest tax burden in this country in Texas.  We have a state that is growing and that Texas is the land of opportunity. Perry to KBH, “People wouldn’t be coming to Texas if it was the place you’re painting it to be.”

7:40 – KBH talking about reminding the federal government not to encroach on state’s rights.

7:39 – More candidate to candidate questions. Medina to KBH, “What evidence can you give voters that you’ll be bound by the Texas constitution?”

7:36 – KBH sends a softball question to Medina about property taxes looking for her to attack Perry on the issue.

7:33 – Medina trying to ding Perry on being a Conservative Democrat in the 80′s before joining the GOP.  Perry responds that he made the same decision Ronald Reagan did, and is proud to be a Republican.

7:32 – Perry and Kay sparing now over the bailouts. Perry laughing and jovial.

7:30 – KBH putting the blame on Bush.  Isn’t that an Obama tactic? Now she’s trying to explain being for the bailout before she was against it.

7:30 – First of questions from candidate to candidate. Perry to KBH about her inconsistencies.  Mentioning her flip-flops on abortion and bailouts.

7:28 – Perry talking about his efforts to sign private property rights legislation and his veto of a particular bill because of trial lawyers interests.

7:26 – Perry faces his first question about private property rights.

7:24 – Twitter is abuzz with chatter about KBH’s poor handling of the abortion question.

7:21 – KBH: “I’ve always come down on the side of life.” Texas Right to Life and her record begs to differ: http://bit.ly/4poOgH. She’s dodging now, saying “What would happen if Roe vs Wade got overturned?”

KBH’s staff must be scrambling now.

7:20 – Fist abortion question to KBH.  This is going to be good.

7:19 – Reference for Perry’s “Texas at top of small business rankings” quote: http://bit.ly/8f2su6

7:17 – Moderator to KBH, “we’re going to move on, but if you want to talk about what you would do today to add jobs, we can come back to this.” Wow.

7:16 – KBH: Lower the burden on businesses to get jobs back in Texas.

7:15 – Perry: Texas created more jobs in 07 and 08 then the rest of the country combined.

7:15 – Perry: This is the best state in the nation to be living in right now. Texas programs will help those who have lost their jobs. Texas created jobs, has a fair regulatory climate, fair and accountable schools.

7:12 - Question from Facebook, “What do you plan to do about unemployment?”

7:11 – Medina up. Concerned about health care and energy.

7:11 – Austin American Statesman reporter Jason Embry just Tweeted, “KBH just left herself open on ACORN.”

7:10 – Moderator says, “Senator Hutchison, you’ve been in Congress a long time and know Washington…” as she prefaces the question. KBH also believes the military is the best federal program. Kay is defending her bill on gas tax refunds. Moderator noted that it would be difficult to get a vote in DC.

7:06: First question, which federal program do you love the most and which would you cut?

Rick Perry: There are three things that the government should do, deliver our mail, defend our country, secure our borders.  The military is the best federal program we receive. National healthcare from Washington is the problem we should be focusing on from the federal government.

7:03: Three journalists on panel, one wandering the audience.

7:00: And here we go.  Sitting on stage are Governor Rick Perry, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, and GOP activist Debra Medina.

6:57: The candidates are taking their places and getting set for kickoff.

6:50pm: T-minus 10 minutes to the showdown.

COMMENTS

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    n/t

  • http://newledger.com Brad Jackson

    Right here: http://texasdebates.org/

    • ktsub

      Both my wife and myself watched tonight, both Perry leaners (not solid support), as must Texans do not have a negative view of Hutchinson either, have to say other than the abortion question, was suprised at how well KBH did.

      She probably got my vote, its going to be a bad year to be a Democrat, but also to be an incumbent.

      Talking about the property taxes, my wife was rolling her eyes when Perry said taxes have been cut (this is true the tax rate has been cut, but appraisals values have gone up, so most uninformed voters would not understand how Perry can say taxes are cut).

      The only problem for KBH, I noticed was the horrible answer on abortion, I dont know why she will just not say she is PRO LIFE, she votes consistent on PRO LIFE issues. If she in her heart is pro-choice, but supports and backs a pro-life agenda, I mean what is the real point but to sound confused…

      She got my vote…ok now everyone can pile on and say how she is a RINO and a liberal….blah.

      • http://www.the41stvote.org rcov092

        Are you not paying attention? Please do the rest of us a favor and do a little more investigating before you decide to vote for her. she is a big part of the problems we have here. Did she do anythiiiiiiing to stop wasteful spending.

        Frankly, anyone who would vote to transfer a long term incumbent into the Governors chair in their state is just blindly following emotion. She will not say she is pro life because she is not.

        http://news.google.com/news?q=Kay+Bailey+Hutchinson+Votes+on+abortion&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&ei=ZtFPS-zKG8OilAeznsC0Cg&sa=X&oi=news_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CA4QsQQwAA

        She cast a vote to advance Obamacare and make Abortion available freely all over the planet. She voted to kill babies in mass. Perhaps maybe you live near the giant abortion mill Planned Parenthood is opening in Houston.

        http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/Faith/Life_Matters/SILENT_SIEGE_TARGETS_MASSIVE_NEW_ABORTION_CENTER_IN_HOUSTON/26943

        If so, go take a look at where thousands of babies will die because you think she did “well”. Your declaration that Texans do not have a negative opinion of her.

        You are right, she is a Rino and you are either a dupe or a KBH campaign worker. Even worse, you give thinking people a bad name. No doubt, you would have voted for Scazzofava.

        • ktsub

          that I do not work for any campaign…neither Perry or Hutchinson, like I said I have been a Perry leaner for the reasons you have said.

          Problem, for Perry, TransTexasCorridor, he can say taxes have been reduced but the appraisals never have been brought under control, so no one sees any reduction. Immigration, and no one has seen the tax decrease he is talking about.

          When did KBH vote for Obamacare or to advance HCR? I get that email from Rick Perry, and I do not know what he is talking about? I assume you are talking about voting for the Defense Bill, yes she did, had she voted against it, the email would have said KBH voted against the troops.

          Neither are perfect, she is not a RINO, but whatever.
          Rick Perry was the campaign manager for Al Gore in Texas, 1988, but I have long forgiven him for that, no one cares.

          Both are 100x better than Bill White, who is already trying to cover up his liberal background.

      • http://newledger.com Brad Jackson

        ktsub, I think you’re a little misinformed on KBH’s stance on abortion. Here, in here own words, are her pro-choice views: http://bit.ly/4poOgH

      • Menlo

        Despite the retirement of some elitists like McCall and Swinford, we’ll still have a house full of RINOs led by Kay Barely Republican clone Joe Straus. Until we can get rid of him, it won’t make a lick of difference who is governor. The position is little more than a figurehead.

        • Richard Mullins

          of course you could go down there and work on getting him primaried. Otherwise, the 121 State house district keeps a RINO(just like Jeff Wentworth also a RINO).

          • Menlo

            Do the voters there really want him?

            But perhaps more relevant, we need people in the house who will actively work to get someone more along the lines of Craddick. These people cower at a single Democrat objection. My rep, Ken Paxton, has done okay; although I think more should be done to change the procedure of how things are done. Legislation with ample support is too easily killed.

            The Senate is bad but not as much so. They at least don’t kill legislation based on one Democrat’s complaint.

  • http://www.WILLisms.com WILLisms

  • izoneguy

    Debra Medina on property rights and a move from property to sales taxes

    http://www.examiner.com/x-17004-Dallas-County-Republican-Examiner~y2009m8d26-Debra-Medina-on-property-rights-and-a-move-from-property-to-sales-taxes

    Medina’s contention was that we need to do away with property taxes of all kinds in the State and institute a system of sales and consumption taxes instead. My problem with this, first, is the fact that you give up local control over evaluation, appraisal of property and the assessment of taxes and send these to Austin.

    The problem is that we have had property taxes for long enough that many cities have set themselves up for development in a certain way that is not conducive to such a program. For example, Addison and Farmers Branch have small populations but large industrial and commercial tax bases. Under the new system, the “rich” become poor because now they receive a percentage of sales taxes commensurate to their population, not property taxes from the office buildings and warehouses that have made them two of the best-funded cities in the State.

    But suffice to say, I believe Ms. Medina’s proposal to move to sales taxes is a bad proposal. And being my first time to actually hear her speak publicly, in-person, and given her adamant stance on the issue, I would have to say this was a strike one for me personally.

    • vrwcnut

      I’ve talked with Debra personally about this (town hall, I’m not a staffer). The principle involved is true ownership of property. She’s not the first to point out that with a property tax system, you don’t really own the property, you rent it from the govt. Fail to pay the rent, they “evict” you and sell what you thought you owned.
      I couldn’t attest to the validity of the numbers she uses as a basis for her sales tax proposal but she recognizes that the revinue lost must be replaced. I’d bet a week’s wages if you can come up with a better option, she’d listen.
      Perry’s had years to give this some thought and hasn’t come up with anything.

      Perry is worse than soft on the border. The Trans Texas Corridor still exists, only the name has changed to deceive the proles.(see Innovative Connectivity Plan). Refuses to stem the growth of state government. Done nothing to slow down the coming disaster of unfunded obligations (think Calif only smaller) and perhaps most critically has shown no evidence of having the spine to stand up to the feds on the issue of nullification & the 10th Amendment.

      kbh is not worth discussing.

      It baffles me why we post so much about getting rid of entrenched hacks and don’t rejoice when a legitimate alternative rises to the occasion.