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Thanks, President Obama! (But I’m Still Voting Against You)

By: texasref (Diary)  |  May 9th, 2012 at 05:58 PM  | 

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Log Cabin Republicans appreciate that President Obama has finally come in line with leaders like Vice President Dick Cheney on this issue, but LGBT Americans are right to be angry that this calculated announcement comes too late to be of any use to the people of North Carolina, or any of the other states that have addressed this issue on his watch. –R. Clarke Cooper, Log Cabin Republicans executive director

President Obama, if your change on this issue hadn’t been so blatantly obviously timed to be of no help to North Carolina but just in time to save you from losing at least the 20% of your bundlers who are openly LGBT, then I might actually consider rewarding you with my vote. However, as long as you stand against life on the issue of abortion, against sensible tax policy that could actually bring some employment back to this country, and against sound budgetary and debt policy, I’m still going to have to go with the “severely conservative” candidate.

This diary goes out not just to my fellow LGBT conservatives, but also to every single conservative who has someone in their life whom they know and love and who is gay. (That should cover everybody). I know that folks like Savage and the way the Obama Administration has been treating working folks has us all in a very angry finger-flipping mood. But if we can talk in a rational way about the issue of abortion, where the lives of innocent children are on the line and lost in the thousands every day, many of whom would be viable if delivered instead of aborted, how much more, then, can we talk respectfully and rationally about the pros and cons of civil–not church force-feeding–recognition of same-sex relationships and/or marriages.

P.S.: To my fellow LGBT conservatives–don’t even THINK about voting for Obama for this. Obama did himself a favor today, not us. Our train has already left the station and is en route to the Supreme Court in one year. Give him his due, but remember how much his positions hurt us in nearly every other way before you get too mushy.

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  • theobnoxiousamerican

    Smart man (or woman) who won’t be fooled by Obama’s pandering politics. Thank god for Log Cabin Republicans. Can I request that you read my take on this issue?

    http://www.redstate.com/theobnoxiousamerican/2012/05/09/the-new-new-shiny-object/

    • texasref

      Thank you for sharing it.

  • Bill S

    Gay For Pay

    He did it totally for teh gays. Totally.

    • texasref

      nt

      • Bill S

        .

      • Bill S

        I find it amazing that you would even entertain voting for Obama simply because he voiced support for homosexual marriage. I do hope you aren’t one of those who jumps on pro-life folks for being “one-issue voters”…because that is precisely the logic you demonstrate with that comment.

        • texasref

          If, as Barry Goldwater once said, “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice,” how much more, then, should we be extreme in the defense of the only value greater than liberty: life!

          I’d jump on someone for being a “one-issue voter” on most political issues, but not on the most important political issue of our lifetime–abortion.

  • aesthete

    and adopted the enlightened position of Dick Cheney on gay marriage.

    Now, if only he could find it in his heart to abandon his antiquated views on marijuana prohibition and embrace Pat Robertson’s intelligent take on the issue.

    • acat

      Really good thing I put the coffee down before reading.

      Mew

      • aesthete

        is that Obama isn’t using a teleprompter anymore — when you see him struggling, it’s because he’s trying to read Bush’s lips from across the room.

    • texasref

      Speaking as someone who has never even tried marijuana, all I can say is that the world would be a happier, safer place if alcohol were still banned and marijuana were legal.

      Having said that, nice sarcasm :-)

  • aesthete

    What, exactly, should we give Obama his due for, again?

    His endorsement of gay marriage means about as much as my endorsement of civil unions for all, though to my credit at least I’m not doing so for transparently political reasons.

    • texasref

      His due is that I am thanking him for making the right decision.

      He made it for a combination of right and wrong reasons. You’d have to be blind not to see the wrong reasons, and I’m sure you agree.

      His due does not include a vote for him. I hope he loses so he can start making his big bucks in speaking fees 4 years sooner. Moochelle could use the income bump.

  • The_Rebel

    I think after that vote yesterday that went 61-39%, Obama has written off the state. Otherwise, why do the flip–flop now? He won NC by only 0.3% in 2008.

    • texasref

      And you’re right that he would not have made today’s announcement without having first written off the state.

      I’m sure they wish they could hold their convention somewhere else.

  • PowerToThePeople

    and that is where I realized this post was a joke and your opinion worthless. Gay marriage is not even close to being on the level of abortion, slavery, or any other real life issue where people are persecuted or killed.

    Nice try though.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    but somehow you managed to get out of that he was equating gay marriage to abortion. He said abortion was about life. I say gay marriage is a civil rights issue. One that the Republican Party will find themselves on the wrong side of in the next few decades if attitudes are not changed. Bless the children, because they often see things through the prism minus old dogmatic views.

  • JSobieski

    Dogmatic views are only bad if they are wrong.

    The good guys are often on the “wrong side” of an argument historically…or at least temporarily (Germans against the Nazis in WWII for example).

    You need to argue your position from a conservative position, not a liberal one.

  • gekster

    You have rights for being American, not for being anything else.

  • PowerToThePeople

    an unintelligent lying moron. You have so misused the word intolerant the last few days it has become a running joke around here to see how many times you use it a day.

    Run off to your basement kid, I laugh at your stupidity and ignorance.

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    I find my wish to see equality on the gay marriage issue many time cloud my thinking on other issues. I really hope the party moves towards seeing this like you do, although its going to take some time. I suspect Republican pragmatism will someday move the party in the pro freedom direction, but until, I’m with you on this one.

  • texasref

    We need to encourage more “aha” moments where people realize we aren’t trying to go into their churches and dictate how they choose to define marriage. Government must serve all its citizens, not just the ones who define marriage in one particular way.

    It would be interesting if the Supreme Court ruled that “marriage” is a religious term, and, as such, should not be recognized by the government. Then everyone can have a civil union from the perspective of our government and a marriage from the perspective of our church. That avoids the whole “you can’t redefine a term that has meant something for thousands of years” argument.

    Ron Paul was perfect on this issue.