Failure to pay the Individual Mandate fine? $250,000 Fine and 5 years in the Clink


Dude, Nancy’s not F’ing around.

“H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax.” [page 1]

“If the government determines that the taxpayer’s unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply…” [page 2]

“Criminal penalties

Prosecution is authorized under the Code for a variety of offenses.  Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:

• Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.

• Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years.” [page 3]

These people literally have never cracked the seal on a copy of the Constitution. In fact, I’m so confident that this would be declared unconstitutional that I am pledging that if I’m ever in a position to do so, I will do whatever it takes to commit “felony willful evasion” and let the chips fall where they may.

In response to the JCT letter, [ranking member of the House Ways & Means Committee Dave] Camp (R-MI) said:  “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail. It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately.”

Sometimes I post the things I write over at Open Salon just to get a reaction from more left-leaning type of folk. Just today, in response to an assertion I made that liberals are never in their right mind, I was treated to a comment giving me the dictionary definition of “liberal”, part of which is “favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.”

I have to wonder how this provision, a near absolute in Pelosi’s mind, squares with that commenter’s perception of what it means to be “liberal”. My guess is that it’s perfectly OK to toss Conservatives in jail; we ain’t people like they are.

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I'll be one of the first to go to jail, then.

Steph C Friday, November 6th at 8:22PM EST (link)

They can deal with my mortgage in an economic downturn and all that while I get free room and board in the pokey. Oh yeah, and free medical, too.

This would be rich if all those who are healthy or can maintain for one year without a visit to the doctor were to forgo health insurance for that year. Perhaps put up that money for emergency situations, etc. I know, for the vast majority of us, that’s simply not possible with family needs and all but it’d still be nice if it were possible.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

I'll save you a chair

thatsright Friday, November 6th at 8:36PM EST (link)

You’ll have to beat me there Steph. Assuming the ‘C’ is the first initial of your last name, we’ll both have a good shot at being the named Plaintiff in the class action that gets to the Supreme Court.

No way this provision gets upheld on challenge and I say that having studied 80 years of horrendous Supreme Court decisions.

In any event, I’ll keep a seat warm for you.

Thanks for the comment.

Russ

Considering the C is indeed the first initial of my last name

Steph C Friday, November 6th at 9:05PM EST (link)

and assuming they’ll go through the rolls alphabetically I’ll be on the list before you. ;-)

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

let me guess Steph

kyle8 Friday, November 6th at 9:13PM EST (link)

your name is Stephanie Proud Countrygal. Don’t ever be ashamed of being a hillbilly, just as long as your not one of those damn West Virginia government issue democrats.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

I'd rather not talk about WV democrats, if you don't mind.

Steph C Friday, November 6th at 9:19PM EST (link)

I still have nightmares of some things that happened during election times back where I grew up.

Stephanie Proud Countrygal is a pretty cool name but I’ll stick with Steph C.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

 
 
 
 
 

Damn

thatsright Friday, November 6th at 9:10PM EST (link)

That’s how class actions get named. So all you have to do is hope nobody whose last name begins with ‘A’ or ‘B’ decides to rebel as well.

;)

Russ

I have a funny feeling

Steph C Friday, November 6th at 9:30PM EST (link)

there will be a lot of A’s and B’s before anybody gets to the C’s. Doesn’t matter though, we’ll still be in it somewhere.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

Hmmmm...

Steph C Friday, November 6th at 9:32PM EST (link)

Perhaps that’s their diabolical plan to reduce the unemployment rate. I mean, if they jail everybody without health insurance, it stands to reason that all those being jailed will have a job of some sort… jail the lot of us and instant job openings. :-)

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

Brilliant

thatsright Friday, November 6th at 10:02PM EST (link)

Or, like they skew the real unemployment numbers anyway, maybe they’ll say all of us newly minted wards of the state are actually “employed” because we deliver the mail and make license plates.

Shoot, with your theory and mine I bet we’d have like 100% “employment” for the first time EVER.

Viva la Communism!

Russ

 
 
 
 

Come 'n git me, Ms. Speaker..... Come 'n git me......... nt

Kenny Solomon Friday, November 6th at 11:02PM EST (link)

Of course you can have my guns……. Bullets first.
I didn’t say rounds, shells or magazines……
I said bullets first.

You know what's funny about that?

thatsright Friday, November 6th at 11:08PM EST (link)

Nothing, actually.

The woman has no idea what she’s doing or the ramifications of her actions.

Thanks for the comment Kenny.

Russ

 
 

I would post a comment here, but I am much too busy...

Dave Saturday, November 7th at 12:03AM EST (link)

…sharpening my pitchforks. :-)

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.

 

Are you coming for Kenny?

thatsright Saturday, November 7th at 12:24AM EST (link)

Or are we going after them?

I got some tiki torches left over from Labor Day….

Thanks Dave.

Russ

 

Russ,

Dave Saturday, November 7th at 12:53AM EST (link)

LOL-Yeah, torches will be good, too. :-)

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.

 

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