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Eric Cantor for Vice President

We need him. He fights.

In 1862, when some of Abraham Lincoln’s political allies, furious over the losses at Shiloh, demanded the removal of Ulysses S. Grant from the leadership of the Army of the Tennessee, the first Republican President responded with unequivocal fervor.

“I can’t spare this man,” Lincoln said. “He fights.”

What John McCain requires in a Vice Presidential choice today is an individual who exhibits the best qualities of an intelligent political fighter. He needs a hard worker – a loyal, principled leader – an individual whose reputation is above reproach. And we are convinced that in this case, the right choice is clear.

Pitted in a deadlocked campaign against an eloquent yet inexperienced young evangelist of Hope and Change, McCain requires an individual who with every argument will prove that the Obama-Biden ticket is uninterested in real change or reform. He or she must be equipped to make the case that the ideas they espouse today are the same tried and failed liberal solutions that Biden has supported in his 36 year Senate career – the vestiges of the Great Society made shiny and new for a generation of voters who has no memory of their destructive effects on the nation. He or she must possess a bright policy mind and a telegenic demeanor for explaining these policies in the course of the ongoing debate. And in an election this divisive, McCain’s choice must be prepared to fight for new areas of the voting populace, expanding the center-right footprint while simultaneously inspiring the portion of the grassroots base still unenthused with the top of the ticket, and not threaten to break the delicate coalition of the willing who have swallowed their pride to support a former political foe.

One of these tasks alone would not be easy – together, they seem nigh impossible. Yet it is our great fortune today to be blessed with an individual who has all of these qualities and abilities. He is a hard worker, bright, capable and principled. He is a family man, strong in his values, his faith, and his character. And he is truly a man of the right.

He is the Congressman from Virginia, Eric Cantor.


While a young man, Cantor has served in federal office twice as long as Barack Obama – and was a member of leadership when Obama was still in Springfield. In that short time, he has established himself as a dedicated and intelligent member of the House. As the Chief Deputy Whip, he has proved to be an organizer, an innovator, and a natural leader. His knowledge of foreign affairs is above what one would expect from a member of the House, and as a devout Jew, he is one of Israel’s greatest allies in Washington and has a wide range of evangelical supporters. He is pro-life without reservation, a strong supporter of gun rights, a fiscal conservative and a loyal advocate for the war on terror. And beyond being a member from a state McCain must carry to win in November, Cantor has proven himself as one of the best fundraisers in the House, with a massive base of support in New York, Florida, Pennsylvania and elsewhere.

Above all, though, Cantor is a good man – ethical, motivated and hard working. He is the kind of choice who best represents the face of the conservative movement in the decades to come. We would relish the opportunity to seem him in a debate with Joe Biden, and we have no doubt that he would win.

Cantor’s selection would be welcomed by conservatives, applauded by most moderates, and inspire confusion and revealingly insulting attacks from the left.

It would elevate a strong young voice for principled conservative reform to the national stage, not merely for political gain, but because he deserves the platform. And it would cement McCain’s election as something that is not just a block against four years of Obama-Biden, but a positive good for the center-right coalition for the future.

John McCain’s story is one of determined heroism in the face of torture and fear. It is a story that is profoundly moving. Though few of us at Redstate supported McCain in the primary, all of us view him as a patriot.

John McCain makes people of all political stripes proud to be American. Eric Cantor will make you proud to be a Republican.

We need him. He fights.

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COMMENTS

  • Kate_Shanahan

    nt

  • GOPUGA

    I’m just not a Romney guy.

  • Logical

    Please… Who is this man?

    Why is it important that he is a Jew and a proud supporter of Israel. There are many conservatives who are just SICK of this same old story. Why send our troops to fight for another country. Israel is not the 51st state, nor should we treat it as such. Personally, I want a vice president who thinks in terms of the United States and not on how the U.S. can best support Israel.

    Don’t you realize that one of the reasons most people are disgusted with the Republican Party is that you keep throwing big-business, pro-Israel, jokers in our face?

    How about you recommend a real pro-AMERICA conservative…someone like…
    DUNCAN HUNTER!

  • Chekote

    The guy was pathetic in the debates. He sounded like he was holding a Congressional hearing. He had his chance but couldn’t make headway.

    • Erick

      And you’ll lose again.

  • GOPUGA

    I know Cantor has and I guess Romney, Pawlenty and Lieberman…anyone else hard anything?

    • Tim_Schieferecke

      Why don’t you get back to your skinhead rally? Israel is a friend to the U.S..

  • pilgrim

    Chris Cox is a fighter, a member of the House impeachment committee. He also fought for the Secure Eastern Europe Democracy (SEED) act, and chaired the commission investigating China’s involvement in financing US election campaigns. Currently SEC Chairman gives him economic as well as foreign policy experience to bring to the job.

    • Erick

      Would raise too many questions about the SEC’s handling of the latest stock market and corporate issues.

      • Moe_Lane

        :wiping off shoe:

        You spray and lay down traps, but even the cleanest place gets one from time to time.

        • streiff

          I thought Israel was the 58th state

  • Swamp_Yankee

    He’s super-unknown. The McCain people asked for his papers. What has he said in or written in past? Who is he associated with. Is there something out there that we don’t know. Will there be a November surprise?

    Is he ready to lead? That’s the theme of the McCain camp and its working. Putting a political novice on the ticket undermines the stature of the ticket

    He’s too jingoistic on Israel. He has made some statements that are beyond the mainstream. We have finally won in Iraq. Even the Bushes have told Israel to ease up on plans for bombing Iran. Americans are tired of wars in the middle east and with the new Russian crisis, we can’t an afford more unwarranted antagonism. The fact that he keeps a Kosher house and is a leading supporter of Israel will be used against him mercilessly on issues involving the Middle East

    We have the right wing Jewish community already. Lieberman will stump for McCain regardless of who is picked and help pick up moderate jews in places like Florida. Cantor does not bring any demographic into play.

    Cantor represents the most conservative areas of Virginia – affluent Richmond. If McCain needs Cantor to carry conservative Virginia, all is lost. He really doesnt help in any more important battleground states.

    • Erick

      And assumed he was just a nutty Tancredo-ite, more “I hate foreigners” than “I hate Jews”

  • aceintx

    But Cantor doesn’t come with the questions many of us still have about Romney…I for one would finally be ready to donate time and money to a McCain/Cantor ticket…I would vote for McCain Romney…but no money or time from me if that’s the ticket.

    I’m with the deirectors

    McCain/Cantor 08

  • Jaded

    nt

  • zsmvf6

    Do we have a good GOP candidate to replace Cantor in the Senate?

  • red_oakster

    My real fear is that he might be “Quayled” by the media.

    Based on his experience, is Cantor going to be seen as ready to become President? If he isn’t, McCain has thrown away part of his gravitas advantage.

    Cantor would need to come out of the convention smoking-fiercely attacking Obama and Biden for their appeasement policies and bad judgement. He also would need to demonstrate to the American public that he is extremely well-versed in policy matters and ready to be President.

    In certain ways, this is a few years early, for Cantor is likely to be a minority leader or whip pretty soon.

    Cantor would be an audacious pick-potentially brilliant, but also potentially disastrous.

    • Kate_Shanahan

      be costly. Choosing Cantor could provoke feelings similar to the Hillary supporters.

      If Romney wasn’t in the picture, Cantor would look a lot better. He will not motivate a lot of the Romney supporters I know.

      I think it’s more of a risk than Romney. Election day is still a long way off and the Romney folks work very, very hard.

      • E_Pluribus_Unum

        The other two, I don’t know since I don’t tune into them. But I don’t know where you get the idea that Rush is pushing Romney.

        • streiff

          so the answer is either yes or no depending

          • E_Pluribus_Unum

            I think the press might take some shots in that direction, but no WAY will they go big with that. Because the deadly-effective counter is that his resume and confirmed experience beat the pants off of Obama.

  • Darin_H

    He has a few negatives, namely being in a lousy Congress, but that is countered by all 3 of the others being in that same lousy Congress too. But he has some huge upside qualities as well.

    Not only do I think he helps McCain win the election, it’s a good move for the future of the R brand as expressed above:

    It would elevate a strong young voice for principled conservative reform to the national stage, not merely for political gain, but because he deserves the platform. And it would cement McCain’s election as something that is not just a block against four years of Obama-Biden, but a positive good for the center-right coalition for the future.

    Cantor for VP! I’d also be happy with the selection of Pawlenty. No to Romney though, the Dems are salivating over Romney being the Veep and I don’t think he brings enough to the table to overcome his negatives.

    • aaronbg

      …If he did he knows he would never have a chance again at the top spot. Plus Romney is a genuinely nice guy who just wants the best for the country…I am sure he would understand the pick being Cantor…he understands that this is not about him but rather the country. And his supporters don;t disagree on policy with Cantor so why would they not support him.

      • red_oakster

        But the MSM is not known for principled consistency :)

        And McCain would need to bocome even more explicit that the problem with Obama is not his lack of his experience, but his poor judgement. That’s a bare knuckles bout.

        • Darin_H

          And tell us how a guy with more experience is less suited than Obama for a lower office….

          • Swamp_Yankee

            Its fair game. The Washington Times has a good article weighing pros and cons

            http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/06/eric-cantor-for-vice-president/

            I personally believe in a more balanced approach in Israel, but I’m not the issue. Cantor’s is very hawkish on Iran, Syria and Palestine and I just dont know if the general public is in the mood for that right now. And if you dont think his ties, funding and support from Israel will be fair game in the general election, your being naive.

            On a side note, I’m so sick on the meme that anything remotely critical of Israel is anti-semetic. Israel isnt always right and I’m opposed to their pressuring of Bush to provide cover so they can bomb Iran. Its political suicide.

  • Oz

    but I’m not sure any Congressman will be seen as qualified.

    • Darin_H

      and stayed in the race for a lot longer. He is a good man and saw the writing on the wall, wisely put the party and the country above his own political ambitions. He’s still relatively young, so another run 4-8 years from now isn’t out of the question. He’s not going to want to burn bridges now (he’s shown no reason that he would burn them anyways). Even if Romney isn’t chosen for VP, he will be running around the country rallying support for John McCain.

      • aceintx

        and I for one have a bitter taste in my mouth at having the anti-Mormon card thrown at me for raising legitimate policies questions concerning Romney.

        I started out the Primaries with Romney tentatively as my #1…he steadily fell from grace with me as his campaign continued. He spent huge sums and couldn’t garner enough support to get above second place.

        I’m not sure that there would be any opposition to Romney…there won’t be from me…but…(YAWN)…what does he really bring to McCain?

        Cantor would solidify the base and get the base to turn out which at this point I think is McCain’s one weakness.

        • mbauer

          We are not a cult of personality. A lot of people hate that their candidate lost. We had die hard supporters of a full 6 different candidates this election cycle. The majority of 5 out of those 6 will get on board as the candidate proves his principles. Hillary and Obama had no chance of reaching a huge chuck of the other’s supporters during the primaries because nothing mattered but the person.
          I respect Romney a lot. He has the ability to do great things for our party.

  • septembergurl

    as VP. None. I understand people have reservations about an economic hawk, pro-business pick for McCain, but this would be the best possible pick for McCain.

    I have the feeling that it’s between Pawlenty and Cantor right now. Each has strengths. Pawlenty has the blue-collar, populist, one-house-owning cred, but he has not been, in my opinion, a particularly effective surrogate for McCain. cantor has been terrific as a surrogate, not just on economic and conservative issues but on foreign policy as well. he will really help McCain on the economic side.

    In my opinion McCain is such a strong personality and is so well known that he would benefit from running with someone who was new to the national scene, as long as the nominee is credible as a possible President. Both Cantor and pawlenty are credible national leaders.

    My hope is that McCain chooses Cantor, who has been my #1 for a while.

    Side note: How bad was Virginia Senate candidate Mark Warner’s keynote speech last night?

    Answer: So bad that Warner might just execute the extremely difficult Reverse Obama — just as Obama’s keynote at the Dem convention in 2004 made him a national political figure overnight, Warner’s speech was so bad it might be a career-ender.

    Given the right kind of Republican campaign and Cantor’s presence on the natinal ticket, we might just drag the inert, limp body of Jim Gilmore across the finish line in the VA Senate race.

    Yes, yes, Gilmore is a RINO …but so was John Warner whose seat this is.

    • aceintx

      at the ACU convention…it’s the only thing that made sense to me when he quit…I was ready to climb on board with him as an anti McCain vote so I have a suspicion that this is a forgone conclusion due to a back room deal to get him to drop out.

      Color me Jaded…but I think that’s they way it’s played out…though I’d much prefer Cantor.

      • aceintx

        I listen to him every day…you’re right…he’s not outright endorsing him…but it’s clear he admires Romney

        • aceintx

          or any of the other Democracies we support…I don’t understand why Israel is singled out by so many as unworthy of defense…

  • Cowboy

    The biggest issue is going to be the economy because it is the only issue at this point that the dems can get traction with. The MSM will make it the #1 news item just like they did corruption in the last cycle because it will help Obama.

    When listening to news programs and talking to people there is one name that always comes up when discussing the economy this election cycle. People on the street already know his name and so do you. He already has cred.

    • aceintx

      nt

  • Cowboy

    The biggest issue is going to be the economy because it is the only issue at this point that the dems can get traction with. The MSM will make it the #1 news item just like they did corruption in the last cycle because it will help Obama.

    When listening to news programs and talking to people there is one name that always comes up when discussing the economy this election cycle. People on the street already know his name and so do you. He already has cred.

  • civil_truth

    I’ve kept out of the VP sweepstakes to date, but you’ve come up with a winner here, someone whom I could get excited about.

    • civil_truth

      Does the Constitution allow George Bush to run for VP? That is the person you were referring to, right?

      • aaronbg

        …how about chairman of the FED.

        • IJB

          That label is being thrown around to a ridiculous degree if we’re applying it to people like Jim Gilmore.

          Look, I don’t pols like Kay Bailey Hutchison much, but I’d never call her a RINO.

          Jim Leach was a RINO. Lincoln Chafee was a RINO. I now consider Arnold Schwarzenegger to be a RINO. Joe Scarborough keeps proclaiming that he’s basically a RINO (why? I don’t know…).

          But almost any other Republican pol? Not so much.

          • mbauer

            nt

  • McCainForPrez

    The Dems and their media allies will immediately tie him to Abramoff.

    • Cowboy

      I can’t spell the subject line right but I didn’t double click the “post comment’

      • Darin_H

        I guess I’m not that cynical when it comes to Mitt Romney, he comes across as a good guy to me. Yeah he’s a go-getter and very ambitious, but his family and business (and religious, but I don’t want to get into that) background also show that he cares about things bigger than himself. Everyone knew that after Feb 5th, McCain was the nominee, Mitt’s a smart guy and could do the math (spend how many millions more to still lose? What gain? What cost?). I don’t want him to be the Veep selection, but I would love to have him in the administration as Sec of State (save SecDef for Lieberman).

  • E_Pluribus_Unum

    I’m OK with Cantor as VP, not jazzed. And no reflection on him personally or where he’s at in the House – where I am in fact a huge fan of this bona fide up and coming conservative.

    But for 98% of America, it starts with, “Who?” That, with the word “Congressman” in front of his name, is a bit of a handicap. A virulently hostile Treason Media that will give no breaks or even a fair shake, and only 8 weeks to make his mark – these are a problem.

    They will try to make him Quayle, they will hold no mics in his face, they will make his narrative read ‘surprise pick and relative unknown Congressman Eric Cantor, who like Dan Quayle was plucked out of obscurity…’.

    • E_Pluribus_Unum
      • E_Pluribus_Unum

        I hear nothing – nothing at all – on this, except for the negative case of some presumed candidates who confirm that they were never vetted.

        Huckabee, for example, said on Rush today that he was never vetted.

        • Cowboy

          And here I din’t think anyone would get it. HMMMMMMM

          • Pomme

            No, the 58th state is Eau Claire. Didn’t you get the Obamamemo?

          • Jaded

            nt

  • mbauer

    Anyone have links to worthwhile articles on our deputy whip?

  • shadowtax

    In 1862, when some of Abraham Lincoln’s political allies, furious over the losses at Shiloh, demanded the removal of Ulysses S. Grant from the leadership of the Army of the Tennessee, the first Republican President responded with unequivocal fervor.

    “I can’t spare this man,” Lincoln said. “He fights.”

    And perhaps Vicksburg would not have fallen when it did if Lincoln had removed Grant from the siege and appointed him Secretary of War.

    Cantor fights. We need him to keep fighting in the House. He is far more valuable on the battlefield passing legislation. We need strong conservative leaders in the House GOP to strengthen the conservative caucus and inspire more conservative candidates to join the ranks.

    Cantor is wasted providing the duties of the Vice-Presidency.

    • Swamp_Yankee

      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/06/eric-cantor-for-vice-president/

  • SirGladiator

    If McCain decides not to go after the womens vote, the Hillary supporters that are up for grabs and the Independents, and decides to instead go after the Jewish vote, then Cantor is the right pick, as he will help in Florida, Virginia, and Pennsylvania. Eric Cantor would go a long way toward winning the Jewish vote, just like picking a woman would win the womens vote. Right now its just all about which swing vote McCain wants to win. Certainly Cantor is superior to the ‘white male Governors’ we hear so much about, who are certainly highly qualified candidates but who dont really do much for the ticket other than fire up the base and turn off the Independent and women voters. At least Cantor, while still turning off the swing women voters, will bring a lot of Jewish voters to partially compensate for that.

    • Tim_Schieferecke

      His merits go beyond identity politics.

      • E_Pluribus_Unum

        Because MOST of those governors, etc, would also help us none with those same demographics.

        • Dan_McLaughlin

          nt

          • sergee3

            The 22nd Amendment states:

            No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

            The 12th Amendment states:

            But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States

            So George H. W. Bush can run for office because he was only elected to President once. (the Yes)

            But George W. Bush cannot run for President again, since he was elected twice; on this consideration, he can also not run for Vice President. (the No)

            However, since George W. Bush would be elected as Vice President, and not President, he could theoretically run for VP; my bet is that there would be a challenge to any such former President that would go all to way to the Supreme Court. (the Maybe)

            More maybe- the 25 Amendment states:

            Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

            Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

            Section 1 means that, if the SCOTUS approved a run but George W. Bush for VP, it would be unkown whether he could ascend to President for more than two years. Section 2 means that he could become VP through non-electoral means, which would again likely go through the SCOTUS.

            I choose not to comment on what it would actually mean for George H. W. Bush or his son to become VP.

            Instead of such comment, I hope this answers your Constitutional question.

          • aceintx

            and alienated millions of potential Republican votes by chalking up every objection to him to anti Mormon bigotry trashing a huge swath of the party that might otherwise have gotten behind h9im enthusiastically.

            I might vote McCain Romney if it comes to that…though I’m reserving the right to change my mind…but money and time from me would not be forthcoming.

          • aceintx

            nt

          • kyle8

            in those debates. And the attacks against him were early and often on venues like this one.

            You don’t like the guy, fine, but don’t try to rewrite recent history.

          • aceintx

            I’m opposed to their pressuring of Bush to provide cover so they can bomb Iran. Its political suicide.

            and allowing Iran to have the Bomb is not suicide?

            We were able to hold off the Soviets with the threat of mutually assured destruction when they had the Bomb…But the President of Iran believes he would go to Heaven if he died in battle with the infidel and would usher in the coming of the Islamic Messiah if he were to bring about a nuclear Holocaust…Israel is right to want to bomb Iran to prevent them from getting it…and Bush is an ass if he doesn’t!

          • aceintx

            but he savaged the other candidates….every single one…in a personal way…I didn’t like McCain or Giuliani…but I was offended at the way he went after him…

            Your talking about someone who came in initially with him as my guy…I gravitated to Huckabee after Romney went so negative while hoping Fred took off…by the end of the Campaign…and having my every objection and argument against Romney thrown back at me as nothing more than anti Mormon bigotry…I walked away disgusted…

            If he’s the choice…I’d likely vote McCain…but he’s at best a yawner for me as VP!

          • septembergurl

            conservative for the Senate nomination..
            by me that’s a RINO!

            You don’t see it that way, OK.

            note to self
            in future try to resist the smartass throwaway final line…it will cause people to ignore the point of your post.

  • Illinicon

    Cantor is the best pick. My primary concern about the VP pick is can the pick help beat Obama, because keeping Obama out of the oval office is my main concern this cycle. Cantor is the best person for that task as he will a favorite of the base and can appeal to independents because he has fought the wasteful spending that has congress’s approval in single digits. The only other possibilties that can help improve McCain’s chances of winning are Carly Fiorina and Jon Huntsman, but for some reason the former has not been given much considertion and likely has not been vetted and the later has no government expirence which will hurt her among the base who wont be able to fully trust her.

  • cordpt

    He’s relatively unknown – that would hurt the ready to lead meme, even if I do agree that Cantor is much more ready than, say, Obama.

    Never underestimate the anti-semitic feelings. Things are what they are. Lieberman gets a pass because he’s a democrat. But leftists, especially Obamaphiles, are not people of honor. We’d see a lot talks about “shared loyalties” and all that crap.

    He doesn’t bring much to the table in terms of electoral votes. If we need help to get votes in his district we don’t deserve to win this election. If this base needs a VP pick to rally against a liberal-marxist like Obama, we don’t deserve to win this election and we do deserve to see a socialized medicine system murdering personal responsibility and freedom, the abortion murdering children for decades to come and terrorists having some years to regroup and putting themselves together. If McCain wants to go with someone with sound conservative credentials, than think outside the box and pick someone with whom he has great personal chemistry, like Coburn, Kyl or Foster.

    I like Kay. Her only con is the life issue. Not a minor thing, but Kay is a woman of her word, and I’d be comfortable with her taking a Giulianesque pledge. What matters in this issues are the judicial picks, not the personal opinion. I’m okay with a somewhat pro-choice VP if he takes the pledge to make the right picks for the supreme. And come on, can you see a republican president nominating a pro-Roe judge? Things have changed a lot. Kay would be a great pick to grab some votes around the Hillary girls. She’s the kind of woman they like (way more than Pallin). And they are going to be a very important constituency in these elections.

    • tcgeol

      but he never actually had any chance at all. He and Tancredo were just there for appearances and had no more chance at the nomination than Paul.

      He would make a pretty decent president or VP, but he isn’t the public speaker type that will ever get the chance.

  • jdripper

    Virginia will be won or loss by McCain or Obama. Cantor cannot deliver Virginia. However, Sarah Palin can deliver a country I believe. She is the best choice for Vice President and if the Day after the Republican Convention John McCain is standing there with some white guy we are in big trouble.
    He needs to pick a woman for his Veep. It is the smart choice.

  • hazard

    considering McCain has already picked his VP, the yard signs are already in production and Cantor hasn’t even been dispatched as a surrogate in any meaningful way. It’s almost surreal how behind Redstate is with political reality. It’s going to be Romney or Pawlenty (my bet is on Romney). I think the directors know this but they have a reputation to maintain. I mean, Redstate was the home for much of the anti Romney rhetoric throughout the primary and they can’t sustain their crediblity by suddenly experiencing a change of heart. This is why Romney is suddenly an “acceptable” choice but they refuse to call him a great choice. Cantor is just the flavor of the week for those who are in utter denial of a pending Romney announcement. There I said it.

    • kyle8

      I never really understood the huge outright hostility to Romney. Nor why so many otherwise smart people jumped on the bandwagon of the strange populist Huckabee.

      • E_Pluribus_Unum

        is how free you feel to impugn the character of the RedState directors, saying that they KNOW it’s going to be Romney or Pawlenty but are , for the purpose of maintaining a reputation (???) they pick somebody else.

        RedState might have been A home of anti-Romney rhetoric, but you’re delusional if you think RedState was the headquarters of the anti-Romney conspiracy. That would be a place we call “everywhere”.

        • Pentagon16

          Care to share these “pro-Israel statements that are out of the mainstream”?!!

          Do you consider when Huckabee said last week that he feels safer in Israel than in the US that is “outside the mainstream”?

          • Pentagon16

            “Israel is warmongering and by attacking the Iraqi nuclear reactor will plunge the world into war for no reason”..

            I heard this same tripe that Swamp Yankee is trying to peddle back in 1981- how did that issue turn out for the world?

          • ConservaGeek

            How many people knew of Algore before he became Clinton’s veep?

            How many people knew of Dan Quayle before the Elder Bush picked him?

            How many people knew of the Elder Bush before he was picked by Reagan?

            I could continue, but it seems unnecessary. Just because Cheney was relatively well-known doesn’t mean that veeps always, or even often, are.

          • Cowboy

            He went after them on their record except when he and McCain shot the liar label at each other and that seems to be settled. That said I will be surprised if he does pick Romney but it will not have to do with that or religion. It was all politics.

            BTW Huck called in to Rush today to clear up the religion issue and says he will support McCain no matter who he picks.

            Funny though, Rush didn’t sound convinced about it all, especially the West Virginia thing. The next caller accused Huckabee of fibbing. Kind of.

  • Kate_Shanahan

    seems to be gold. I’ve watched as many clips as I could and read as much about him as is readily available. He is smart, classy, telegenic, probably has a lot of fortitude.

    I like him. But not now. My opinion, he needs to stay where he is for a few years. Develop a plan.

    • aceintx

      As far as the way he went after the other candidates….I was angry…and I don’t like McCain or Giuliani…but I was extremely angry at the back biting way he went at them…he came across to me as a spiteful little weannie trying to play tough on the school yard…to top it off…he’s as much to blame for us being stuck with McCain as anyone else in the race…and I don’t see why people think he’s a good VP choice if he couldn’t close the deal with Republicans after spending hundreds of millions of dollars of his own money…

      I know you’re not advocating him…but I can tell you…there is a lot of ill will over his attacks…and the Anti Mormon card was played to the point of being infuriating. I think it was a good strategy early on to inoculate him from the Mormon charge but it should have been stopped after it was put in people’s mind…but it was way over played…and it’s still hard to point out what you don’t like about him without being called an anti mormon bigot…It’s infuriating!

      • aceintx

        nt

        • aceintx

          nt

          • aceintx

            A failed CEO as VP…what else does she have going for her? What are her positions? What does she believe?

          • aceintx

            Pro Choices seals the deal for to many and I believe it elect’s Obama

            No thanks!

          • Cowboy

            and read the transcript it would be better that me telling you. Better yet listen to it and you get a better feeling of what Rush was thinking when he would reply to Mike with “really?”

            To Rush’s credit he was very polite and didn’t stir the pot. The following caller was not as gracious. We don’t need that kind of stuff right now in the party.

          • aceintx

            “he couldn’t stand up there with a white guy…he had to pick a woman to overcome the fact that he’s running against a black candidate.” He won’t get any credit either way so I ain’t buying the…”He has to pick a woman or minority” meme…If a Republican has to play identity politics to win in this country…we’ve already lost anyway.

          • Cowboy

            But it wasn’t hundreds of million either.

          • aaronbg

            n/t

          • aceintx

            has the thought crossed your mind that RedState won’t call Romney a great choice because he’s not? Has it occurred to you that RedState doesn’t have to play games and tie themselves up in intellectual knots in order to gain credibility because they already have it?

            This is one of the silliest posts I’ve seen.

          • Cowboy

            But it wasn’t hundreds of million either.

          • Jaded

            get REAL….or get with the Democrat Party….

          • aceintx

            In case you hadn’t notice…he wasn’t able to win the nomination despite spending a vast sum of his personal fortune…Oh…and the Huckster beat him in the delegate count…

          • aceintx

            LOL

          • aceintx

            nt

          • aceintx

            I don’t care about Huck…I’m just curious what the WV thing is…I’m a couple days behind listening to the feed since I only listen to it when I’m out of the office…anyway…however much Romney spent…Huck was close in the delegate count despite spending pennies on the dollar…Romney couldn’t close the deal…so I don’t see what he brings to the ticket. At best he’s a safe pick…at worse he costs McCain votes because people just don’t trust him. and some are seriously mad at the way he ran his campaign…then there are those like me who have problems with him on policy and have been smeared as anti-Mormon bigots much like I’ve always been called a racist for disagreeing with Jesse Jackson who can’t stand him as a result…

            He may be the nominee…but he’s not the best option by a long shot.

          • Kate_Shanahan

            Did I say that? No.

            Romney supporters believe he would be an asset on the ticket, that he earned the spot. Believe me, they will be disappointed, regardless of Romney’s obvious statesmanship on all counts.

            There is motivation, and there is motivation.

            Romney already has a national network of lots of hardworking folks. Many will not transfer that hard work to Cantor. They will vote, just not work. Human nature

            I like what I have learned about Cantor. I just don’t want him now.

          • tankertodd

            …for what it’s worth.

            But then again I may be disturbing to some too.

          • Cowboy

            Nobody likes being accused of being a bigot.

            Romney helps in Michigan, Colorado, Nevada and maybe New Mexico. One thing is that people associate him as a flip flopper but they also he would be strong on the economy. The economy is what the Dems are going to pound on. It’s all they have.

            I would like to see Romney picked but it won’t break my heart if he isn’t as I think McCain is going to win anyway.

  • tankertodd

    I have some reservations but am very interested. I suppose I need to hear this guy talk. Although I think it would be cool to have the first Jewish VP I wish we were all above the race to have the first woman/black/Jew/whatever to be blank. We should be better than that. That said I would love to send him into office if anything to send a big eff off message to the anti-Semitic Middle East.

    If he is the nominee I will certainly support him and do my best to get him elected. I hope he’s ready to be President and I hope he’s electable in 2016!

    • aceintx

      Romney talks a good game…but I don’t believe he’s a Conservative in his heart of hearts…and the 2008 campaign has solidified his negatives in my mind…if he;s the pick…all I can say is…he’d better make good use of his time as VP to build trust with the base…or we’re in for a long 12 to 16 years!

  • Ashbrook
    • aaronbg

      You and Jaded…So I 5′d back to back in the comment tracker and needed to have that there so nobody thought it was a double post. I would have hated for your 5 to be wasted because someone thought it was a double post..;^)

  • Doc_Holliday

    but since there is no open thread I can see, and this thread is dying down, I just wanted to pass some breaking news. Ok, this is not breaking, because we all know Bill Maher is a slimeball. Tonight on The Tonight Show, which was once a classy show, he said to Jay “Get your ** (not head) our of your *, yes, ass. This show is tape delayed and they let it run.

    I am not for censorship as a general rule. But this is beyond absurd. I know HBO will eat it up, but why is Maher so popular on mainstream talkshows? Is NBC even mainstream anymore? Anyway, I do not want to lead the charge on this, but I wanted to have it on record what I just heard on the Tonight Show.

    • aceintx

      LOL

      • aaronbg

        …thus the unique title…meant to catch the eye and bring other to share in your glorious wisdom….;^)

        • aceintx

          nt

  • Chekote

    I recently met Rep. Cantor at a fundraiser and he is quick, eloquent and a fighter. He would be a great choice. However, I believe McCain needs a woman to reap the disaffected Clinton voters in a resounding way.

  • Kate_Shanahan

    are not just trying to satisfy the base, we are trying to win an election and keep the country from going bankrupt.

    Is this a big picture decision, or a compromise?

  • Moe_Lane

    Dispassionately, and with not even a fleck of spittle.

  • Moe_Lane

    NT

  • pilgrim

    I don’t think we can run and hide from the questions that are going to be raised about the stock market. The Ds think they can win by waging a class war campaign against the Rs.

    I think we need to go on offense and point out the record of fighting for the individual investors rights, and warn about how much the folks are going to hammered who own stocks if the Ds have their way.

  • Tim_Schieferecke

    As Sean says to Mark.

  • BigGator5

    I so agree that Eric Cantor would be an awesome choice for McCain’s VP.

  • aaronbg

    You need both the base and the indies…McCain provides the indies and Cantor provides the base.

  • aaronbg

    You need both the base and the indies…McCain provides the indies and Cantor provides the base.

  • olderthangandalf

    VP candidates are often unknown. McCain can afford unknown. Unknown gets cured fast in the context of a national campaign.

    The challenge for McCain is avoiding a pick that splits the party, and even there I think there is more resilience and more likelihood people will come home than is the common expectation. If the guy hits most all the right buttons and is close to being ready to lead, that matters more than his current Q score.

  • Tim_Schieferecke

    I think Cantor would be a great choice, young, smart, grounded.

  • Flagstaff

    It’s pretty sad that we feel constrained about selecting a candidate because he’s held a very important job, and he’s done it well, but we might have to explain it, and it’s complicated.

    At this point, I’d like to see McCain name the most dynamic speaker we have. They are in short supply in the Republican party and they are necessary to get our ideas across. Who even cares if the person is an empty suit. It hasn’t hurt O’Biden. Omigawd! Did I just endorse Huckabee?

    Wash my mouth out with soap.

  • aceintx

    but you need to reconsider this post…I don’t think you’re an anti Semite…and don’t wish to charge you as such…but this post is disturbing to say the least.

  • BigGator5

    I’m a moderate and I have no issues with Cantor as McCain’s VP pick.

  • aceintx

    nt

  • aaronbg

    n/t