We have been treated in recent weeks to an unfortunate procession of people on the Right lending their assistance to Barack Obama against the Republican presidential ticket of John McCain and Sarah Palin. These people should never be listened to or employed in any responsible or prominent position by anyone in the Republican Party or the conservative movement again.
One group - including Colin Powell, Ken Adelman, Charles Fried, Scott McClellan, and Christopher Buckley - has explicitly endorsed Obama. Like hostages giving forced confessions, their statements doing so seem to repeat the same basic list of 3 or 4 talking points aimed at swaying wavering moderates. Members of a second group - Chuck Hagel, Paul O’Neill - have declined to formally endorse but have nonetheless made numerous appearances with Obama and lent their good names to his policy initiatives. A third group - David Brooks, Peggy Noonan, David Frum, George Will, Kathleen Parker - has remained nominally on the side of the McCain-Palin ticket but exerted far more effort tearing down that ticket than on addressing the problems presented by the Obama-Biden ticket, often using the terms and tone reserved for full-throated opposition to a candidate’s election. The net effect of all of these efforts has been to provide a patina of bipartisan moderation to the Obama campaign, whose nominee has done so little to deserve the title, and undoubtedly to sow confusion among center-right voters who are less familiar with Obama’s record.
Adelman’s statement is the nadir of this genre:
I’d rather a competent moderate president. Even at a risk, since Obama lacks lots of executive experience displaying competence (though his presidential campaign has been spot-on). And since his Senate voting record is not moderate, but depressingly liberal. Looming in the background, Pelosi and Reid really scare me.
Nonetheless, I concluded that McCain would not — could not — be a good president. Obama just might be.
That’s become good enough for me — however much of a triumph (as Dr. Johnson said about second marriages) of hope over experience.
If Obama is a “moderate,” the word has lost its meaning, and even Adelman is forced to admit that he has no basis whatsoever for concluding that Obama will govern as a moderate, nor even that he possesses basic competence as an executive. Here’s a thought experiment: pick three issues of any public consequence; describe the predominant position of the Democratic Party; describe with any degree of specificity and honesty Senator Obama’s record and proposals; and explain how that position places him to the right of the bulk of his party. The difficulty of the task - and the ease of coming up with a far, far longer contrasting list of issues on which he has been to the Left of his own, already liberal party - should disabuse any reasonable person of the notion that Obama is any sort of moderate within the context of the American political spectrum.
If Barack Obama is elected next Tuesday, it will be with the collaboration of all of these people, and that fact should damn their judgment on all matters political for the rest of their lives. A year from now, if Obama wins, no one will care what they thought about McCain or about Palin. All that will matter, and justly so, is that they aided the most left-wing and least-experienced and least-accomplished presidential candidate in the past century to capture the commanding heights of American government. The consequences of that decision for everything these people have ever worked for in their own professional lives shall be on their heads daily.
Now, let us not be misunderstood as to two points. First, Republicans and conservatives need not be blind or mute to the flaws of our own side. We have primaries for that purpose, and even in a general election we should not hesitate to provide constructive criticism. Nobody will accuse Rush Limbaugh, for example, of being unaware of John McCain’s shortcomings as a conservative, nor have we at RedState been secretive about our discomfort with some of his history and positions. We do not call for mindless partisan shilling but for advocacy that is honest, principled and forthright. On rare occasions, we may even recommend voting for a responsible Democrat for office where the Republican alternative is deficient or corrupt. But there is a difference, especially in tone, between constructive and destructive criticism. (Some Republicans and conservatives who could not in good conscience endorse the McCain-Palin ticket for one reason or another have at least maintained a respectful silence on it, or have focused their efforts entirely on educating the public about Obama.) And there is most certainly a difference between endorsing a halfway-acceptable Democrat and endorsing one whose record contains no shred of moderation and heaping gobs of left-wing extremism for the highest office in the land.
Second, we well understand that if Obama is elected, it will be with the votes of many people who have supported Republicans in the past, including many who voted for George W. Bush and other conservatives in 2000, 2002 and 2004. A good many of those people have genuine reasons to be unhappy with the GOP, in some cases reasons we ourselves share. We as a movement and as a party will need to win back the support of those voters, and we do not suggest that the Right should abandon the idea of a big-tent majority coalition in favor of strict ideological and partisan purity. Nor, if we lose, should we take out our frustrations on the voters.
But when numbers of ordinary, non-politically-obsessed voters have been led astray by the siren calls of Obama and his media and money machines, it is in part because our movement and our Party have suffered a failure of leadership. And leadership is precisely the role that has been forfeited by anyone who has lent their support to Obama’s effort to defeat McCain-Palin and take the White House - anyone who could and should have seen the dangers posed by an Obama Administration and raised instead the alarm against the last line of defense standing in his way. We will welcome them back - as voters, as listeners, as followers. But we will never again trust their judgment.
What Republican Party?
ArtbyRuth Tuesday, October 28th at 9:07AM EDT (link)Should Obama win this thing, there will be no more “parties” as we become a One Party State.
No more elections.
No more freedoms.
Good bye bloggers.
Good by talk radio.
So long Internet.
So your threats won’t mean much unless McCain wins….which is why I am voting McCain/Palin.
Not "sunshine patriots" - rather "fornicators"
civil_truth Tuesday, October 28th at 9:25AM EDT (link)…and Scripture does not promise them a happy fate in the world to come.
Jonah Goldberg wrote of Hitler’s Willing Executioners. These men and women are Obama’s.
Down through the ages, it is through the treachery of those leaders entrusted with the defense of freedom who abandon their posts in the hour of greatest need that the enemies of freedom and the agents of tyranny find welcome to our shores and entry into our citadel.
And Rightly So!
So moved... All in favor?
Michael Parrish Tuesday, October 28th at 9:37AM EDT (link)Aye.
We will not surrender our liberty… even unto death.
An apology and penance will not atone for the abandonment of conservatism when the cowards try to return home.
Their defection is good. We become purer and more refined through it. Let’s win this election, roll up our sleeves, and get back to the business of protecting the freedom’s endowed to us.
My name is Mike Parrish and I approve of this message!
[Pocket Change - Now Lint Free!](http://www.mikeparrish.org)
Adelman
RJD Tuesday, October 28th at 9:39AM EDT (link)This maybe one of many comments on this diary. But, after reading Adelman’s quote, I had to scroll down here and ask:
Who has compromising evidence of Adelman that he would utter such incomprehensible nonsense?
we helped Adelman
JG Tuesday, October 28th at 10:12AM EDT (link)A couple of years back when Ken Adelman was under fire, it was us conservatives that came to his defense. It turns out that he does not belong to the conservative party–he belongs to the opportunist party. We should chose our friends and allies more carefully.
"Damn their judgement." No.
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 28th at 10:22AM EDT (link)Damn them.
There are others too
jonnot Tuesday, October 28th at 10:24AM EDT (link)What about the so-called “republican talking heads”, such as Bill Kristol, who were absolutely salivating at the thought of McCain becoming the nominee because of his percieved ability to sway democrats and independants. These were the ones who insisted that conservatives who saw McCain as a RINO were wrong and should put aside their petty differences and embrace the candidate that the MSM selected as the republican nominee. Now, these same “rebublican experts” are either jumping ship completely for Obama, or have thrown in the towel for McCain–who we have now come to support.
Those that never liked McCain should be spared.
Staunch_Libertarian Tuesday, October 28th at 10:51AM EDT (link)Rush Limbaugh and George Will are conservatives and they never liked McCain so they could not be expected to carry his water.
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I am a Positivist Pastafarian for the alliteration alone.
Noonan
markol Tuesday, October 28th at 11:04AM EDT (link)Over at Pajamas Media, Pam Meister writes:
I don’t if there’s any truth to it, but it is interesting.
Never say never.
The_Gadfly Tuesday, October 28th at 11:12AM EDT (link)If they have a true conversion of the heart, and truly perform penance for their mistakes, we should allow them back into the fold. But therein lies the crux of the problem, for it is always difficult for one person to judge whether or not the conversion is true. Coming back into the fold cannot be a quick thing either. The correction of error will require solid commitment over time to prove that it is not just for show. I expect none of the first or second groups you list to be capable of this, even if some were to think to try it. Amongst the third group I see one, maybe two who could, (and another who probably belongs on a fourth list - poseurs who never were conservative in the first place) and if they exert the effort to correct their mistake, I would again listen to their counsel.
Were the danger not so great, I might suggest voting for Obama because the coming storm will reflect badly on whoever is in power, and I’d rather have the damage done to a demagogue than a patriot. But the danger is that great. Although I suspect it would not be so great if we had more patriots and fewer demagogues as our nominal leaders.
We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.
-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463
If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?
inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156
This was an even stupider Adelman comment
bk Tuesday, October 28th at 11:14AM EDT (link)Ref: here
Normally, this type of traitors list would require more scrutable testimony
Marcus_Traianus Tuesday, October 28th at 11:35AM EDT (link)However when the proverbial lead starts to fly, you want someone that can be counted on to watch your back. That person should be righteously committed to your cause and operate on sagacious, unwavering principle.
I do not hold disagreement or debate in any type of contempt. That often leads to a better understanding. However, when previously expressed beliefs are abandoned it smacks of dishonestly, not integrity; especially when the articulation does not reside in any well founded intellectual basis or predicate.
We can agree to disagree, and have, that McCain is the right candidate for our party. But we can not, as conservatives, find any well grounded, principled basis upon which to foist the non sequitur that Obama is a superior choice. That action leads me to believe those mentioned above are cowards who choose to run from the fight either because they are traitors, never truly believed in the cause or yielded to some parochial anxiety.
Irrespective of their reasons, I doubt they will ever regain status as steady, leading or thought provoking voices in the conservative movement. They will be viewed more as deserters and collaborators, who when their country needed them most decided to preserve their own well being at all costs.
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
Contributor to The Minority Report
This is how conservatives endorse Barack Obama
tankertodd Tuesday, October 28th at 11:36AM EDT (link)Barack Obama is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.
Movie link
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The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race - Chief Justice Roberts
I'd hardly equate support for Obama
Achance Tuesday, October 28th at 11:44AM EDT (link)with serving with the einsatzcommando or as a capo at Auschwitz, so we ought to be careful wiht such analogies on the off-chance that some Obamunists have actually read Goldberg - or read anything for that matter.
That said, there are many in this Country, among them the putitive Republicans and conservatives to which the Directors refer, who are analogous to the political, business, and even military leaders who turned a blind eye to the true identity and plans of various political leaders because they saw something about him that was in their interest. That is the easier and much slippier slope that too often ends with your apolitical chemical company making Zyclon-B.
In Vino Veritas
Opostates
29Victor Tuesday, October 28th at 11:51AM EDT (link)n/t
Not a direct comparison
bobbymike Tuesday, October 28th at 12:03PM EDT (link)I don’t think it was a direct comparison but these so called conservatives are playing a dangerous game. By switching they are now not trusted by either side so…..they must become zealots for the cause.
But why we should not let them back is simple. If Obama was a true centrist with experience and good judgement (no Ayers, Wright, etc.)it is barely forgivable but to openly support the least experinced farthest left candidate in American history should mean excommunication.
Things I now believe
Magic2171 Tuesday, October 28th at 12:25PM EDT (link)I believe the following items
beliefs no matter what the polls say.
anything you haven’t seen personally.
American.
People we have not lost, we even have a fair chance of winning
DO NOT GIVE UP !!!!!!!
Can we add to that list whomever is in the McCain campaign attacking Sarah
QueenOfCups Tuesday, October 28th at 12:29PM EDT (link)before the campaign is even over?
The persons inside the campaign that are “leaking” information should never be allowed to work on a campaign again.
Where is the discipline, loyalty and integrity? I think it is unflattering to them as untrustworthy workers and downright disgusting to those of us on the outside watching such shameful and self-serving destructive behavior.
I was being perhaps too loose with my language
civil_truth Tuesday, October 28th at 12:51PM EDT (link)I agree with your distinction in terms of the need to be more precise.
These Republican turncoats would not the ones who were directly involved in the actual murders - after all, they would never deign to dirty their hands with manual labor.
In the end, though, their level of complicity does not by any means mitiagate their culpability for the endpoint.
Rather, as you note, these Quislings are in a class with the German captains of industry and intellectuals who enabled the Nazis by cloaking them with the garb of respectibility - either through fear of retribution or through the personal gain that collaboration would reward them with.
Exactly!
But at least, the Germans could claim ignorance, that the horrors of the Nazis had no historical antecedent.
Their counterparts here have no such defense: they know darn well the road to the totalitarian state (of the left in the case of Obama) and willingly choose to deceive themselves. Their doom thus will be far harsher.
And Rightly So!
Rush
Dan McLaughlin Tuesday, October 28th at 1:32PM EDT (link)has been a good soldier and carried his pack and rifle for a general he despises. I respect that. He hasn’t shied from knocking McCain but he has at no time left his listeners wondering whether he thinks the nation is better off with Obama.
The same can most certainly not be said of George Will.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” - Winston Churchill
The Republican party will not disappear.
ca_libertarian Tuesday, October 28th at 1:57PM EDT (link)Yes, but this is not Obama’s fault. A later poster was correct in pointing out that McCain won the primary because many conservatives pushed for him as the only hope to bring moderates and independents into the fold.
Let’s face facts, this was always going to be a hard election for someone with an R next to their name to win. The odds are against McCain/Palin at this point, but who is to say that they would have been better for Giuliani or Huckabee or Thompson or Romney? Or, for that matter, if McCain had picked someone other than Palin as a running mate?
The Republican party is going to be reinvented after this campaign. It just remains to be seen whether it is McCain’s centrist-style party, a freedom-loving party, an Evangelical party, or a neo-conservative party.
The Republican party will not disappear.
ca_libertarian Tuesday, October 28th at 1:59PM EDT (link)Yes, but this is not Obama’s fault. A later poster was correct in pointing out that McCain won the primary because many conservatives pushed for him as the only hope to bring moderates and independents into the fold.
Let’s face facts, this was always going to be a hard election for someone with an R next to their name to win. The odds are against McCain/Palin at this point, but who is to say that they would have been better for Giuliani or Huckabee or Thompson or Romney? Or, for that matter, if McCain had picked someone other than Palin as a running mate?
The Republican party is going to be reinvented after this campaign. It just remains to be seen whether it is McCain’s centrist-style party, a freedom-loving party, an Evangelical party, or a neo-conservative party.
No truth
Dan McLaughlin Tuesday, October 28th at 2:12PM EDT (link)She’s a speechwriter, not a press flack.
And really, I can’t see Noonan actually angling for that, I think she just has not thought through the consequences.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” - Winston Churchill
Bravo. Please leave this at the top of the page for a couple of months, too.
spainishirish Tuesday, October 28th at 3:01PM EDT (link)Not only have they forfeited their rights to be called conservatives or Republicans, they have forfeited their dignity. Good riddance, and here’s to long memories.
Hahaha. Cards aren't even required.
spainishirish Tuesday, October 28th at 3:07PM EDT (link)The Candidate just spouts off his neo-communism whenever he thinks there isn’t a camera or recorder around. The dupes just jump ship whenever they feel a little wind on their finger.
Thank you for this reminder.
spainishirish Tuesday, October 28th at 3:57PM EDT (link)Many of the ship jumpers were at some point or another McCain supporters. Hell, some of the nasty anti-Palin leaks from that campaign come from many who would have done the same but/for. Yet McCain did something I never thought he would do and his fairweather friends certainly never expected him to do: he fought back. Bad, bad boy.
It is odd that actual conservatives supported McCain despite years of disagreement with him, and many moderate putative Republicans couldn’t run away from him fast enough.
So there is enough potential karma here for McCain still to pull it out.
I am hopeful that McCain will remember who fought for him
Dave_in_Fla Tuesday, October 28th at 4:02PM EDT (link)It wasn’t his precious moderates and media pundits. It was the conservative base and the PUMAs.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” - Joe McCarthy
AMEN!!!
Terilyn Donaldson Tuesday, October 28th at 4:36PM EDT (link)n/t
SURVIVING IN WYOMING…
Join the RedState Strike Force
Not to be offensive or anything
Michael Dugas Tuesday, October 28th at 5:03PM EDT (link)Not to be offensive or anything, and I know that’s usually a cursor to being
offensive, but weren’t you guys just asking us to vote for two people who are democrats and support the killing of innocent children? Now I’m not supposed to listen to George Will or Rush because they don’t like McCain or Palin? I don’t
like alot about McCain but I voted for him. Is it just that Will and Rush are too conservative anymore? Or is it that dissenting opinions are no longer allowed in our party? I’m confused
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
I only scored 17 on the Obama Test
One must reflect upon the post civil war southern war cry: FORGET HELL!!!
THE_RED_REBEL Tuesday, October 28th at 5:25PM EDT (link)WE WILL OT FORGET- for an elephant has an excellent memory. Well said, for its symbolic members as well. FOR THEY WULL RUE THE DAY.. the might as well get used to the term: TURN COATS..
THEY WILL BE INCLUDED IN MY BOOK:
” CONSERVATIVE TURNCOATS: THE NEW REPUBLICRATS..
By Liberty Penn Justice
“History is God’s providence in human affairs”- Daniel Webster
“I know of no way of judging the future, but by the past”-Patrick Henry
“Government is the people’s business and every man, woman and child becomes a shareholder with the first penny of tax paid.- Ronald W. Reagan
totally agree!
Pentagon16 Tuesday, October 28th at 5:59PM EDT (link)These Benedict Arnolds need to be publicly scorned and cast out as pariahs.
I pray every night that McCain wins- and thus these losers are left with nothing as their new political overlord goes down to defeat..
“Small town folks get bitter after which they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment”- Barack Carter Obama
BS..
Pentagon16 Tuesday, October 28th at 6:06PM EDT (link)William Kristol and the Weekly Standard bloggers have been some of McCain’s biggest defenders.
And in his own editorial ths week, Kristol compared McCain to Lincoln and said we must battle on regardless of this electoral result.
“Small town folks get bitter after which they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment”- Barack Carter Obama
Probably Back to Basics
ArcticWind Tuesday, October 28th at 6:18PM EDT (link)I’m thinking (and hoping) that the Republican Party returns to its roots as a small-government party. Over the past eight years, we have seen government grow at a level unparalleled since Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society. When the voters have to choose between two Big Government parties, they are going to choose the Democrats, because the Dems give them more goodies.
Most Americans agree with the principle of less governance; if the Republican Party seizes on this and can regain trust with the voters, I think we have a good shot.
That being said, there will be a lot of finger pointing going around if John McCain loses. It’ll be similar to the state of the party in 1948, when Dewey lost the presidency to Truman. Taft, the leader of the Old Right, and Dewey, a “Me-Too” Republican, both blamed one another for the loss. That’ll almost certainly happen again if Obama wins. Hopefully, the bloodshed will be kept to a minimum this time around.
The nation can survive
Dan McLaughlin Tuesday, October 28th at 6:59PM EDT (link)The occasional bad Senator or Congressman, as a price of throwing out bums.
Obama in the White House is something else entirely.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” - Winston Churchill
This from the "Directors"?
ATG Tuesday, October 28th at 8:20PM EDT (link)Not quite what I expect from the site folks.
While I understand the sentiment this is not a conservative nor republican point of view. It is the type of thing the left voices all too often though and I believe that is where it belongs, not on the front page here.
Well done is better than well said. —Benjamin Franklin
Don’t mind me I’m just some “Strange__Guy” from the interwebs
Sorry Dan I can't agree less
Michael Dugas Tuesday, October 28th at 8:47PM EDT (link)I don’t think of myself as a single issue voter but I do start with abortion first and then go from there. There is no way that I can support a pro murder candidate
even as a tactical move to get rid of a bad
republican.
The bible states that those who murder, or spill the blood of, innocents will never enter the kingdom of heaven. And to support
a person or party that is for the murder of babies is wrong, is a sin, is the shedding of innocent blood. And I am of the belief that that same vote to a democrat for the promise of some outcome is a spiritual bribe. God quite clearly states in Deuteronomy that
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
I only scored 17 on the Obama Test
Actually, this isn't like the left at all
smagar Tuesday, October 28th at 9:16PM EDT (link)The Directors have made a reasoned argument that some conservative voices have harmed GOP chances this election. Moreover, they haven’t behaved in a constructive way.
The biggest example of this: tearing down Sarah Palin AFTER McCain had nominated her.
What was McCain supposed to do? Throw her off the ticket?
What was Palin supposed to do. Take Kathleen Parker’s ridiculous suggestion that she suddenly proclaim that she needed to spend more time with her family?
How did Frum, Noonan and Parker expect McCain to act constructively on their criticism? What was he supposed to do with their advice.
I think the Directors made a good point here. First of all, do no harm to your side.
Noonan, Frum, Parker and Brooks must have known they were hurting McCain’s chances by doing what they did and saying what they’ve said, in the manner they’ve said it.
Of course, they have every right to speak their minde.
And we have every right to point out to them that the knives protruding from between our shoulderblades belong to THEM.
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
smagar channels kowalski---let's remember why Redstate was created
smagar Tuesday, October 28th at 9:26PM EDT (link)It was to help the conservative movement GET THINGS DONE. Not talk, not opine—ACT. Accomplish things.
As Moe said earlier in this election, when Parker first went rogue on Palin, there are two sides in this election. Pick one.
Frum and Parker and Noonan picked…themselves.
Elections are time for action. At some point, you fall in with your team and get to work.
Frum and Parker and Noonan and Brooks picked…themselves.
All The Directors are doing is pointing that out.
At a time when we needed all hands on deck, pulling on the halyards, these four decided to sit back and play critic.
Thank you very little, Noonan and Parker and Frum and Brooks.
Good riddance.
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
They will be DONE when McCain/Palin wins....
JadedByPolitics Tuesday, October 28th at 10:21PM EDT (link)they are an object of derision to me….immaterial little pieces of ELITE SNOBS…WE will WIN and they WILL not be invited to any of the conservative events because no one will buy their tickets if they are on the ticket!
They like the media wing of the Democrat Party have made their bed now they MUST lie in it.
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
What I don't get is why
AKSteveB Wednesday, October 29th at 3:38AM EDT (link)pro life or pro choice matter at the federal level, as long as pres/congresscritters support originalist judges. Roe v. Wade is a legal abomination for anyone who is intellectually honest, no matter what one thinks of abortion. About the only federal issue in the whole thing was the “partial birth” abortion issue. Until it goes back to the states, the abortion issue is going to destroy everything it touches.
Hell is other people - Sartre
My disappointment has been profound ...
Lwyrett Wednesday, October 29th at 3:55AM EDT (link)and particularly with Peggy Noonan, who previously had my respect and admiration ~ she does have a gift with prose.
Her treatment of Sarah Palin has been just plain snarky!
Peggy Noonan may have wrote for Reagan, but she was no Reagan! President Reagan was hardly an effete political snob!
Sexism is distasteful, but misogyny is unpalatable. And misogyny directed from one woman to another is nauseating.
~ ^-^ ~
I know what it's like to be on Sarah Palin's
Achance Wednesday, October 29th at 4:20AM EDT (link)s@#t list! There are some people who should be praying to God she doesn’t wind up VP; they’ll never go to another significant event again! Their name will not be spoken! Sarah can do vindictive.
In Vino Veritas
No, they don't know.
Achance Wednesday, October 29th at 5:19AM EDT (link)The standard Communist line is that the reason they were so brutal was that they were under attack from the counter-revolutionaries. They don’t need or want the lessons of history because they deny history. It’s a brave, new World.
In Vino Veritas
No this was about 2 things
Michael Dugas Wednesday, October 29th at 5:42AM EDT (link)At first asking us to support Democrats
instead of 2 Alaskan Republicans who suck.
And then later asking us not to support or listen too Republicans who disagree with McCain/Palin.
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
I only scored 17 on the Obama Test
Don't fully trust anyone until he has stuck with a good cause which he saw was losing.
1SGinTN Wednesday, October 29th at 7:20AM EDT (link)A Morton C. Blackwell quote.
Having provided that quote, let me quickly say that I don’t believe we are losing! The traitors do, though.
Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil