And besides, I don’t think that any of them will ignore the clout that RS has. I’m sure next week we will hear back from the candidates, which will just go to prove Jaded’s message above.

Bringing this back up on the front page on Monday would be an excellent idea. Nice call Jaded.

I second that motion. Move to vote?

Thank you if you accept my suggestion!

I read a very funny recap of the 2004 election where the Republicans saved every picture, quote, etc of John Kerry to have in response to what was in the news. Do you remember John Kerry and them saying he looked French? We were calling them freedom fries then, not French fries? I thought I might have read that article on The Weekly Standard, but have searched, it must have been on GOP Website by Gillespie.

What I think doomed Romney was the MA health insurance law he passed, with Ted Kennedy by his side signing it into law. I am from MA and have to do the employer’s job and that law has made me one if not two extra days of work per year. It also has fines attached if the company does not have Section 125 Cafeteria Plans and does not offer all employees, even as low as 15 hours per week health insurance. There are pictures of Romney signing that with Teddy smiling. I understand Romney’s change of heart on abortion he was trying to do us a favor and get rid of Teddy Kenenedy in 1994.

I read a very funny recap of the 2004 election where the Republicans saved every picture, quote, etc of John Kerry to have in response to what was in the news. Do you remember John Kerry and them saying he looked French? We were calling them freedom fries then, not French fries? I thought I might have read that article on The Weekly Standard, but have searched, it must have been on GOP Website by Gillespie.

What I think doomed Romney was the MA health insurance law he passed, with Ted Kennedy by his side signing it into law. I am from MA and have to do the employer’s job and that law has made me one if not two extra days of work per year. It also has fines attached if the company does not have Section 125 Cafeteria Plans and does not offer all employees, even as low as 15 hours per week health insurance. There are pictures of Romney signing that with Teddy smiling. I understand Romney’s change of heart on abortion he was trying to do us a favor and get rid of Teddy Kenenedy in 1994.

The subject of life will always divide, as most principles do. In fact, I believe that is one of the primary functions of principles.

As far as your “pre-emptive ad hominems” line, I would remind you that I was not attacking you as a person I was requesting that you not attribute words to me that I didn’t type as that is seen as a tactic of the left. Don’t confuse me with the enemy unless that is what you would like me to be.

I have presented reasonable arguments as to why I believe life to be a worthwhile principle. You disagree, thats fine.

I would say though that I don’t like you treating me like some single issue voter who can’t see beyond some “litmus test”. Anyone so inclined, can go back to the other posts on the candidates for RNC Chair and see that I have been skeptical on all of them for various reasons.

Republican corruption and ethical lapses equal Democratic victories.

Reagan was pro-life, Gingrich was pro-life, they both made it a core part of the party because it is the right thing to do.

My point was that in neither case was it the focus of the 1980 race or the CWA., And is the only issue being brought up here. And is the issue most likely to divide the party and chase away those we wish to attract. Which in my opinion is counterproductive and foolish.

That is all. Carry on.

Stll can’t find that CWA passage dealing with abortion, BTW…

1- What do you believe are the pillars of our parties philosophy? How will they be simplified and articulated to help ensure the clarity of our message?

2- Please define what is meant by “grassroots”? How you will strengthen “grassroots” efforts to articulate a Republican vision?

3- What do you believe are the core conservative principles and how will they be used to form a winning coalition? Do you plan on appealing to demographics or ideals and ideas?

4- How will you move old stalwarts of failed state parties out of their offices?

5- How will you overcome an MSM that is devoted to destorting our positions and ideas? What is the primary means you plan to use in order to communicate with a vastly misinformed public?

This is just a start.

I understand that pitting any groups rights, even the unborn, against another groups rights is a losing position. I don’t think I have argued to do that…ever.

My original statement was that life is an issue that deserves primacy because without life all other rights are meaningless.

Sorry but that was a dumb argument.

The fact that the platform was succinct in it’s argument for the pro-life position doesn’t mean it wasn’t a core philosophy.

8 - Similarly, candidates are “electable”, (or ” - who can win”), their messages for example, are “effective”.

Hate being a nit, but eight years of strategery and five months of Senatese sure didn’t work three weeks ago.

(why in the world are my first two paragraphs in a bolded, huge font?)

As for 9, agreed with my homeboy Diogenesis from ConfirmThem that as is it’s little more than a litmus test, and the focus should be more generally on judicial activism, which covers a wide multitude of sins inc. Roe, while being more palatable (winnable, electable, effective, whatever ) to moderates & independents.

On a sobering note, overturning Roe at a minimum will require a GOP POTUS replacing one of the four liberals or the kook Kennedy with a conservative who can get confirmed in a FAR more liberal Senate than the one that hailed Roe 75-25 in a sense of the Senate vote a few years ago WITHOUT a Dem replacing the 73 year-old Scalia.

I do not think Roberts wants a 5-4 vote overturning Roe, due to all the attention it would bring the Court. Alito was one of the originators of the “hollow out/hearts n’ minds” strategy in the Reagan WH. Both are acutely aware of the possible backlash against GOP candidates nationwide should Roe be overturned outright, which IMO is why neither joined Thomas’ concurrence in the federal PBA case calling for such.

Most Americans want restrictions on abortion (esp. PBA & parental notification), but also want the life, rape, & incest exceptions, and most also want adult women to be able to have abortions of convenience in the first trimester. This is where hearts & minds, prevention of unwanted pregnancies and offering women alternatives to abortion comes in.

I won’t argue the moral side, but Roe of course is a Constitutional monstrosity. Sadly, all evidence points to us being stuck with it, in at least some form. Blame Poppy Bush for picking Souter over Edith Jones for Lord only knows what reason.