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For the Sake of the Party, for the Sake of the Country, To Save Us from Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney Must Withdraw Now

Jennifer Rubin, who, based on her lack of a brutal death at a random hot dog stand, must be a more pleasant person in real life than in her writing, wrote an impassioned plea this morning for Republican Party elders to step in and stop Newt Gingrich at all costs.

It is worth quoting in relevant part:

The voters in their infinite wisdom have just given a huge boost to perhaps the only GOP candidate who could shift the spotlight from President Obama to himself, alienate virtually all independent voters, lose more than 40 states and put the House majority in jeopardy.

We’d be looking at four more years of Obama’s economic policies, four more years of strained relations with allies, several new Supreme Court justices and an unprecedented power shift to the executive branch.

While straining credulity a bit with its rhetorical excess — Ms. Rubin is apparently unaware that there are fewer than forty states in the Northeast and on the Pacific Coast — her point is fundamentally valid. Newt Gingrich will mop the floor with Barack Obama in the debates, only to have his head handed to him in November. Informed voters might want to consider this a more intellectually satisfying form of the 2008 debacle, without the electric excitement Sarah Palin brought to the ticket.

(Not to worry: Newt Gingrich has compared himself to so many electrifying leaders that it seems reasonable to assume he will give one heck of an acceptance speech as he selects himself as the vice presidential candidate, too.)

I don’t want to dwell on Newt, who has Newt to do that for him, and better than I ever could. I want to dwell on the cause for this calamity, the source, the problem, the sticky wicket if you will, the mote and beam we must remove from our own eyes before seeking emergency treatment for punctured eyeballs.

I am speaking, of course, of Willard “Mitt” Romney, who, coincidentally enough, is like a mote and a beam in the sense that his physical composition and bearing are remarkably similar.

Newt Gingrich got his turn as not-Romney, then blew it. Done. Gone. Buried like an obscure thing of which Newt would probably insist on telling you at length as you tried to hide behind the coffee service and escape out the back door. By rights, we should be down to Mitt Romney versus my great aunt, a late entrant in the field who would catch the world by storm by insisting that every back yard have its own subsidized shine still.

Instead, we are back to Newt v. Mitt, which sounds like a fantastic name for a spell in the upcoming Fifth Edition of (Advanced) Dungeons and Dragons, but is instead a depressing reminder that we will likely look at four more years of Obama, regardless of the nominee.

And it is all Mitt’s fault.

I do not mean this in the sense that he “failed to put away” Newt. You can’t stop him, you can only hope he falls asleep after talking to himself in containment. I mean this in the sense that Mitt Romney managed to turn himself into even more of a walking caricature in just a handful of weeks. His hamhanded handling of his own corporate past — not to be confused with his hamhanded handling of his political past, which is a given — and his wealth have given voters who were preparing hemlock pies and resigning themselves to voting for a blob of clay with fantastic hair a reason to say, By God, no, I’m not going to eat that hemlock, and I’m not going to vote for this idiot.

Consider that the man who doesn’t even respect the electorate enough to lie to them in a consistent manner about his political beliefs, political formation, policy choices, gosh, the list goes on, does respect them enough to openly condescend to them by telling them that three hundred thousand dollars is basically a pittance.

You, Mitt Romney, and your cheerleaders in the press and Republican establishment (but not sainted Jen Rubin) are why there is a decent chance Newt, and not you, will cause the destruction of our party downticket in less than ten months’ time. (Think of this as being like what you did to the Massachusetts GOP, but on a grander scale, with more arson afterward.) You convinced the voters to run to a man who couldn’t even stay the head of the caucus he brought to power a mere four years before. You’re a Mormon with an all-American marriage who managed to get a guy with three living wives, I assume seven hundred mistresses, and the real love of his life rounding it all out in his mirror every morning to the point where socially conservative Republicans would chew off their own earlobes to vote for him over you.

AND THAT DOESN’T EVEN MAKE SENSE.

You are the problem, not Newt. You, not the voters. You, not poor Jennifer Rubin.

Now, Rubin is nothing if not intellectually honest and consistent. I therefore join in her implicit call — and call on her to make explicit her call — to reject the politics of fear, and to demand that you terminate your political campaign now, today. Well, after you read this, and talk Justin Hart off a ledge. But right after that.

And then. God willing, then. Then we will have someone else, someone more credible, someone — let us be honest — with worse hair, step forth to defeat the amphibian, with the chameleon out of the field. That person will then go on to lose to Barack Obama, but the downticket races will be saved.

God bless America. Erick-Woods Erickson for President, 2012.

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COMMENTS

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    but Newt is not a sure down ballot loss, in fact if the very voters he dissed are willing to see him redeemed then, why not the middle. I am as scared about the outcome of a Newt candidacy as the next guy, but the over use of the commerce clause, and the huge left wing push by the Obama administration must be stopped, and out of the people we have, who has shown they are able to defy expectation over and over again, Newt is far from perfect, but he could very well use his flaws as a way to teach the world that redemption is there for all of us if only we are willing to submit to God and surrender our pride. Newt could very well be a tool God is using much in the same way God used David or Paul (Saul).

    As a person who recently turned his own life around in the last few year, I cannot help but hope the new Newt is this person. Because if not, Romney is the only hope we have, and that is almost worse than not doing anything at all.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    I’ve also noticed that that ledge is becoming more and more crowded lately.

    Good thing we repealed Prohibition!

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      its that conservatives naturally don’t produce as large a pool of good candidates due to the lib media fear, campaign laws and general view of life that is averse to putting up with all the bull of politics…more later…great column TC

      • BrendanW

        And also people who ran that were pretty strong candidates, but half assed the campaigns: Tim and Rick Perry – we’re looking your way.

        And the people that gave these guys terrible advice, like if you are running as a conservative outsider, you might want to go to the Iowa straw poll and compete.

      • nocontest

        This seems like year of the stand Ins.
        Go through the motions and hope for a miracle.

        Who to blame not the media. Are we really saying this is the best we can offer?

        The real candidates must believe this isn’t the year despite all the talk of how weak Obama is. Why else would they be waiting this one out?

      • forgiven

        You are absolutely right. The right cannot compete with the deceit and chicanery of the left. We have no stomach for the disgusting tactics of the left and that is the reason we are losing the battle for conservative values being at the forefront of our arguments for decency in our personal lives and as an extension in our government. What a sad day this is in our country.
        Governor Perry and others like him are not willing to sacrifice their families to the carnage of the press.

    • kestrel9001

      and I’m still in hysterics! Just stopped by from Daily Kos to spy on y’all for a few….this piece is a SCREAM!

      Now I have my uniform on so you can’t execute me. Geneva convention and all that.
      I go now……………..

      bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    • mojojojo

      “It’s mitt’s fault!”
      “No it’s Newt’s fault”
      “NO! it’s Christie’s fault.”
      Piss and whine all you want, it is absolutely, and ALWAYS the voters’ fault. If they’d spoken up a year ago, none of these officials would be in their proverbial doghouses. To think I actually thought the Republican party was about personal responsibility…

      • elizaliza

        It’s always the voters fault, you’re right, that’s why i am glad we elected the likes of David Vitter, Sanford, Ensign, Nikkey Haley, Larry Craig, Giuliani, Bristol Palin, Gingrich and McCain, who ALL show us what true Family Values are: after you cheat on your wife, have kids out of wedlock, premarital sex, you come back, say you’re sorry and be done with it.

        We are Republicans, we forgive cheating!!

  • jakeofalltrades

    Awards diary in the making…

    “Jennifer Rubin, who, based on her lack of a brutal death at a random hot dog stand, must be a more pleasant person in real life than in her writing”… that was just masterful.

    • Flagstaff

      but I praise it’s delivery.

      Excellent writing, Thomas.

      Actually, you may have something here, but I’m not sure what. For me, a lot of it still comes back to the Democrats’ and liberals’ full control of 98% of mass media. No matter who we run, he will have a hard time getting past the smoke screen.

      • elizaliza

        Man, did no one sent you the memo??? We OWN the mass media like CNN, even NBC, So i am not worried. There’s no profit in telling people liberal stuff, so we win.

  • Common_Cents

    Mitt has a glass jaw. Mitt is weak. Mitt has protected and coddled, somewhat like obama has by the left/media. Mitt waited his turn. Mitt feels entitled. Mitt thought he had it in the bag.

    Mitt is the result of DC establishment elites drunk on power, pissing away America’s future, not embracing real change for people but opposing any challenges to the DC establishment.

    We get the government we deserve, slippery slope over years/decades. When we start waking up we want immediate change to undo the slide in big chunks, and that starts to look radical. (Perry) and now Gingrich stumping on change to the DC establishment.

    • texasref

      Do you ever make a comment I DON’T agree with 100%?

      Damn!

    • elizaliza

      we DO get the government we deserve, so it’s good that the majority of governments were Republican ones.

      And Bush would soooo beat Obama at golf! And not just cos he practiced more at it, either!

  • conservativecurmudgeon

    …won the independent vote last night (rather convincingly) against the likes of Mitt and Paul? And the women’s vote, and the baby-boomers, and the seniors, and…

    Oh, yeah, that’s right: South Caroline is full of knuckle-dragging inbred cast-offs from Deliverance; I keep forgetting.

    I am already sick to death of hearing that Newt is going to destroy the GOP, implode our electoral chances, and the only way we can win is to nominate Mush Romney. Ah, yes. HE won’t scare anybody. Of course, he won’t INSPIRE anybody either.

    And, we can quietly retire to the cocktail circuit.

    • APA Guy

      …just firms my resolve to support him. I have long since given up caring what those turds have to say on the matter after their shameless pimping of Romney, an Eastern liberal, as our GOP candidate. If I wanted a liberal for president, I’d campaign for Obama.

      • acat

        Just as the GOP “Hispanic outreach” seems to have a very Cuban vibe (due, I conclude, to D.C. being closer to Miami than El Paso..) the GOP outreach to Main Street is likewise contaminated by the proximity to Wall Street.

        It seems to this cat that, while Romney’s candidate-persona is managing to remain inside a polling-tested focus-grouped range, whoever picked the optimum range didn’t add anything resembling “leadership”… but without that it’s not gonna fly in flyover country, nor play in Peoria.

        Naturally, this dooms the entire party.

        Mew

        • trevorb

          am not enormously happy with Gingrich. He’s got a giant ego and his personal life is telling. That being said, he has the fire and the willingness to take the fight directly to Obama. Romney does not; he is a weak candidate, which we are rapidly figuring out.

          • acat

            Not holding you responsible for it, just .. some of us knew what he was.

            Mew

          • red_oakster

            Now Newt is doing the same.

            Mitt is going to win delegates where Newt didn’t get on the ballot, but where is Romney if he loses Florida? Then you have Romney having won only one of the first four. How much longer can he stay in? Does the establishment double down, or does it start helping Santorum, or pursuing a favorite son strategy to deny Newt a majority of delegates?

            Mitt has to be the weakest GOP front-runner since … George Romney of 1968 “brainwashing” fame. Mitt is like Gerald Ford without the congeniality or principles.

          • acat

            to remain in the race until at least Super Tuesday.

            (although I’d wager a bit that his wife and children would prefer him to pick a less .. expensive .. hobby)

            Mew

    • Thomas Crown

      Straight vodka or, when it’s at home with the wife over dinner, a sweet white wine. I certainly don’t like cocktail parties.

      You wonder how Newt Gingrich won a majority of Republicans and Republican identifiers? Is that the question? I already gave the answer.

      If you’re suggesting that South Carolina’s Republicans and Republican identifiers closely track the voting populace nationwide, without once saying anything contrary about the good people of South Carolina, um, no.

      Friend, I’m a Texan, not some idiot Yankee. Don’t get cute with me. You don’t like the fact that Newt Gingrich has been underwater in national polls since some time in 1995? Don’t blame me, blame him and the press that spent so much time demonizing him (and the Clintons for doing the same, and Dole for knifing him, and…).

      And one more thing. If ya look really close-like, you might even see I said that Romney’s gonna toast us, too.

      RIF.

      • conservativecurmudgeon

        We’re gonna lose to the grand and glorious Barack Obama. It’s over. And, by the way, unplug RedState, ’cause it ain’t gonna matter.

        –A bit fatalistic for my tastes. I think Americans rather like liberty, and will respond accordingly this fall, especially if they are in simpatico with the thought that their liberty will be destroyed if Barack Obama is re-elected. That’s rather hard to do with a candidate like Romney who posits merely that Obama is a nice enough guy, with good intentions, but that he’s kinda “in over his head”. This resonates with the general mood of the country like damp paper towel, I’m afraid.

        Newt Gingrich is “upside down” in the polls, and “has been since 1995.” That, and $2 will get you a cup of coffee at Pilot. I am also getting a little tired of the prevailing wisdom that Americans can’t be enlivened, educated and engaged in serious thought when it comes to elections– no, they must accept the narratives as proscribed in the pop entertainments. This is sloppy thinking, at best, and we have many instances in the past where Americans came out of their stupor and have done the right thing. The times are ripe for such movements, in my view.

        Newt Gingrich can very easily transform from the caricature that the leftists blowhards and tepid milquetoasts in his own party have promoted, in much the same way Ronald Reagan went from 32% down against Carter even by the middle of October, 1980: He forced himself through the cultural filter, and the people responded.

        And, cute is as cute does, Mr. Crown. Your diary entry ain’t exactly Byron, you know.

        • lineholder

          Obviously, he’s not satisfied with any of the candidates remaining in the race. The words “brokered convention” were never specifically stated, but that is the primary emphasis of this diary, subtle or not. I’m not sure who it is that he believes will magically step up and win the day. Perhaps he’ll be willing to share his thoughts with us on that point…someday.

          I don’t happen to agree with him, however. I think there’s a strong chance that he is underestimating the candidates in this race. In fact, I’d like to see them prove him wrong. If that happens, then the down-ticket races will resolve themselves, and we’ll have better chances of winning the Presidency as well.

          • Thomas Crown

            Y’all are …

            Seriously. You think this is a subtle or unsubtle call for a brokered convention? Do you honestly think this thing was written … ?

            I’m just at a loss.

          • lineholder

            narrative that is being presented by the establishment Repubs today?

            Subtle or not, that’s exactly what I saw in it. If I’m wrong, then please say so and why. And I’m being sincere in making that request.

          • Thomas Crown

            I’m not sure how to explain this any more simply. It was satire aimed at the very people you think I’m joining. I can’t even fathom how “Mitt must drop out” is

            (a) a call for a brokered convention
            (b) the “Establishment” position
            (c) both of the above.

            I mean, really. I’m more interested in how you connected dots that weren’t there.

          • lineholder

            In reading through the comments in this thread, I’m not the only person who took this as being a call for a brokered convention, Mr. Crown. Not everyone knows of the relationship that you have with the mods or with Erick. They would see it as just a post in good faith, not satire, okay?

            All things considered, though, it did cross my mind after your initial response that this could be the case. It isn’t the first time you’ve posted satire at RS, and I should have considered asking that question directly first.

          • Bill S

            Well, I don’t know what to say.

            People need to lighten up.

          • jakeofalltrades

            Newt Gingrich got his turn as not-Romney, then blew it. Done. Gone. Buried like an obscure thing of which Newt would probably insist on telling you at length as you tried to hide behind the coffee service and escape out the back door. By rights, we should be down to Mitt Romney versus my great aunt, a late entrant in the field who would catch the world by storm by insisting that every back yard have its own subsidized shine still.

          • lineholder

            ROFL, it isn’t the first time and won’t be the last…old weakness of mine that shows up once in a while. Always feel like something of an idiot when it flares up.

            Ah, well, live and learn, eh?

          • aj_0000

            That you can’t jump into a campaign at the last minute. If he had started running a year ago like the rest of them, he’d probably be the nominee. The idea that somebody is going to jump in at the convention and pull it off is ridiculous. The fact that it is now the “establishment” starting to pine for a brokered convention means the tables have turned. Ah, for the good old days when nominees were just selected in smoke-filled rooms without those nasty voters getting in the way.

          • 1spark

            nt

        • Thomas Crown

          That stick has got to hurt, shoved that far. At least loosen it a scotch.

          By the way, “cute” isn’t the same thing as “rhetorically capable.” This is kind of like how “functionally literate” isn’t the same as “smart.”

          Just a note.

  • daveoconnor

    but too deeply pessimistic to be really, really funny. And, I’m 66 remember, the “hot dog” thing either went over my head or worse, was an easy grounder that I missed.

    • Thomas Crown

      That if she acted in real life like she does when writing or communicating online, someone would have finished her off, at random, long ago.

      Put really simply, she’s a yutz.

  • Tbone

    people might think Newt just got a little face work done.

    As for Mitt dropping out, it appears he has. He just don’t know it.

    • Thomas Crown

      I’ve broken bread with Erick recently enough to know that he’s a good few stone less than Captain Bighead.

      • Tbone

        It is true that TV adds an extra, say 30 pounds? ;-)

        Personally, who Newt picks as a running mate is important because should he get elected, he may be too old and fat to make it another 4 years.

        Just sayin’.

        • cheetah2

          then Perry President in 4 years when Gingrich gets bored with it as I read he would somewhere…

          • pj2012

            does anyone miss Perry yet? I still watch the debates… but it always feels like someone is missing… ;-(

      • cheetah2

        Captain Bighead LOL. He’s GOT to have a big head to hold his magnificently ginormous brain.

  • snowshooze

    Killin’ us out here…

  • aesthete

    Classic.

  • Christine (Trelaina)

    Mitt won’t take your advice…I would say Paul dropping out today is more likely (and that chance revolves somewhere around zero), but it is what I wish would happen…

    …a re-do…

    • acat

      And that comes with its’ own set of compromises, back-room-deals, and “selected, not elected” baggage.

      And that’s before they start figuring out who the campaign staff are.

      Mew

      • Christine (Trelaina)

        I see disaster in the making.

  • texasref

    Because your diary entry is similarly laughable fantasy.

    I like the whole Mitt Romney dropping out idea, but he won New Hampshire and has the national infrastructure to take this at least to Super Tuesday, if not the convention.

    So what you’re saying is, “Newt, you’re the worst of the bunch.” Then you turn to Mitt and say, “So Mitt, would you drop out, please?” Shouldn’t you be calling on NEWT to drop out? Or is this some elaborate ploy to magically have the contest be between Mitt and Rick?

    Why don’t you just make the case for Rick instead of advocating for a situation where the other 47 states don’t even get to choose their favorite of the four remaining options?

    Oh wait, you don’t even mention Rick, do you? You add layers of fantasy upon layers of fantasy in your fantastical diary entry by suggesting that a brokered convention could be our best bet. Yep, that totally isn’t playing into the hands of the Paulites. Yep, that totally isn’t playing into the hands of the Establishment, as well. Who do you think is going to run that show? Not the voters! I trust only the voters, and of course Erick.

    • acat

      I could be mistaken, but .. it seems pretty darn unlikely given that he’s been around Red State since early days – much earlier than this cat crept past the arbiters of taste, anyway – and is trusted by The Management.

      Note the reddish tint to his name, they don’t just hand that out to everyone, y’know.

      Mew

    • Thomas Crown

      I didn’t exactly spend hours crafting this, or ten minutes, but I figured the intent was sledgehammer-obvious, and no, it’s not what you think.

      • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

        ‘Specially with potatoes and cabbage.

        • aesthete

          They’re… gamier-tasting.

          • jakeofalltrades

            He’ll never lose any weight if he keeps eating reporters alive.

          • trevorb

            we’d better prepare for him taking on the main course.

          • WillWong

            Some young and upcoming reporters might be tempted to take on Newt!

          • jakeofalltrades

            Like brainless moths they soar giddily into the flame.

          • WillWong

            are forever engraved in the Presidential Debate Hall of Fame!

          • texasref

            Newt could stand to walk on the treadmill for 30 minutes every day.

            And not eat after 7pm.

          • jakeofalltrades

          • WillWong

            much better thsn Romney’s attack dog Christie, imo. 30 minutes a day on a treadmill is good for anyone, whatever the shape!

          • JSobieski

            he just rips out and digests the liver and what passes for a spinal cord.

            Its a high protein-low carb diet that is low in trans fats while being high in Omega 3.

          • jakeofalltrades

      • texasref

        Care to explain for us common Irish folk?

        • Thomas Crown

          I was certain the Irish babies line would give it away.

          Then again, I was certain three quarters of the post would give it away.

      • pj2012

        or reading the works of Rod Serling… wink… wink, then I realized… ah ha… satire.

        I say we take a political Rip Van Winkle nap for 4 years and pray we gain the Senate and keep the congress and Perry runs again and being more ready the 2nd time around wins the presidency.

        • pj2012

          sorry… very tired, meant to say… thought not though

  • beach91

    issue is a complete RED HERRING!! I get so friggin’ tired of hearing about the most electable person as if anyone really knows! No one knows and Newt elicits excitement with the base that Romney will not ever get! I was a Perry supporter and am now on the Newt side of things so please quit talking about the electability issue and that Newt is not electable. You just don’t know that and the very first sentence of Rubin’s comment is so condescending it is just ridiculous!

  • DONTREADONME

    Me believe that none if the Republican candidates have a chance against Obama. Really, the worst president of ny lifetime and we are circling the firing squad for anyone and everyone. And this is why people like me gave up back in 2010.

    • aesthete

      Work for a Congressman or state politician who you can trust. Don’t waste your time or money on Presidential politics.

      • Ann_W

        That’s the true counter-culture now.

  • tngal

    Not overly excited about any of the current crop so your great aunt could be a possibility. Subsidizing the backyard stills seems a bit like an entitlement, though. I’ll just keep using my food stamps to pay for the corn.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    Shouldn’t that count for something?

    Gingrich and Mitt both have baggage that will be easy to use against them. Opefully when the general election rolls around all of the baggage (for whomever it is) will have been played so to death that no one will care anymore… at the end of the election in November voters will still have a choice – proven incompetency a with a dash of uncharged/convicted treason or someone who will at least try to do the right thing and be on the side of the country he lives in.

    I’m not for Romney and have doubts about Gingrich. But in November whoever the O fails to ban form the ballot, if the R candidate has a heartbeat* and the name isn’t Obama they’re gonna get at least my vote.

    *heartbeat optional at this point it’s pretty much anyone currently running that’s not the O. Until then who knows how it will play out.

  • Juggernaut

    and clearly this clown thinks like a weak north eastern type who caves in based on nonsense dribble from idiot conservative hacks who have also failed to hold up conservative principles. There’s a reason why 80% or more of the media are liberal or somewhat neutral………..weak chickencrappers in NYC.

  • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

    speaking of the electorate.

    We have met us and he is Newt.

    • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

      –no–text–

      • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

        ;-)

        • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

          –no-text–

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            I’m guilty of all points of the Law!

    • Tbone

      It seems only the sanctimonious, self-righteous stone casters favor the morally superior but totally unqualified Santorum.

      • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

        Only Newt has a god-complex about Newt.

        • moodyboots

          because he’s a corrupt man and a corrupt elected official.

          Newt Gingrich is the Christine O’Donnell of this cycle. Except that he’s even more unelectable. Even though the worst thing that a Newt’s candidacy would be a Newt presidency. Very few chances it’d end in something else than a resignation or an impeachment.

          • acat

            I think you’ve bought the D.C. Insider line….

            Stop swallowing before you get to the sinker, please.

            Mew

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            not against him. And I wasn’t a supporter of O’Donnell. The House turned left after he retired (he wasn’t kicked out). That tells me he was keeping the House more to the right.

            Newt has experience O’Donnell didn’t have, although he will have a harder time casting a spell over his voters.

          • moodyboots

            Everybody hated Gingrich and what he represented.

            And yeah, he ran away – so I guess technically he wasn’t kicked out. What to expect from a man who’s so inept that had to say things like “In my name and over my signature, inaccurate, incomplete and unreliable statements were given to the committee, but I did not intend to mislead the committee”?

            And yeah, he’s even more unelectable than COD. I doubt he’ll even hit 35%, especially since Paul will obviously run if his mortal enemy – the guy who supporter and fundraised for the former democrat congressman running against him and even visited his district to campaign against Paul – is the nominee. They’ve hate each other for 30 years, there’s no way Paul loses the opportunity to humiliate Newt contributing for the worst result ever.

            I don’t know who Senator Tom Coburn will support in that case, but I suspect it’s Paul.

            Hey, let’s put the guy who’s too dumb to properly oversee a response to a House Committee accusing him of being corrupt leading the country! Sounds brilliant.

          • acat

            Seriously?

            Mew

          • moodyboots

            If you know Coburn, you know Gingrich is the politician he mostly hates.

            I think DeMint allowing Ron Paul to use him in robocalls in South Carolina is the first hint that if Gingrich is the nominee – the guy who said “The American challenge in leading the world is compounded by our Constitution? either we are going to have to rethink our Constitution, or we are going to have to rethink our process of making decisions” – then a big part of the Constitutional conservatives who still remember the disgrace that was Newt as a speaker and the character of that man will at least signal their preference for Ron Paul. Like DeMint did in SC, even if not openly.

            Not that it matters. Newt would struggle to win 10 states in a 1on1 versus Obama and with Ron Paul running he probably will only win 2 or 3, regardless of any endorsements.

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            his political career is over.

          • moodyboots

            Lots of people won’t feel comfortable endorsing someone who disgraced the party and the country like Newt Gingrich. To some people, principles and values are more important than a political career.

            I do find amusing that you are so full of yourself that you declare anyone’s political career over though.

            Anyway, nobody has lost a political career for staying away from an embarrassing loss – and that’s all Newt would offer in November.

          • acat

            Yes or no, please.

            Mew

          • moodyboots

            Have I ever suggest that? He’s probably as bad as Newt, which is quite the feat.

          • moodyboots

            nt

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            He may not be the ideal as far as Conservatives are concerned, but he does have ample evidence from his time as Speaker of the House to prove that he can stand up to the left and he can even stand up to Republicans if need be.

            It is this fighting spirit that happens to resonate with the American people at this point. It will be a battle, to say the least, to alter our current fiscal trajectory…probably a long and bloody battle. None of the other candidates in the race seems willing to take on that battle. Mitt Romney has been prone to follow the path of political expediency more often than not. Rick Santorum would be inclined to go overboard with implementation of big-government social programs as a means of trying to solve America’s social programs. And Ron Paul has repeatedly displayed his own tendency to “pork out” at the “gov’t trough”.

            Newt is the best option we have, fiscally. He’s not perfect or ideal by any stretch of the imagination. But he’s still the best option we have.

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            you believe Paul has a better chance than Newt???

            First of all, those who support a third-party aren’t widely recognized or accepted at RS. It’s against site rules. So you might want to consider that.

            Secondly, the American people may want change, but they don’t want the kind of change that Ron Paul is offering where foreign policy is concerned. Too dangerous by far.

            Thirdly, Night Twister is correct.

          • moodyboots

            Kind of creepy, considering my point was quite simple. You have some serious reading comprehension problems.

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            of the statement above, i.e that against Obama 1-on-1, Newt would only win 10 states and that if Ron Paul is factored into the race, he would only win 2 or 3? Unless your usage of “he” in the last phrase is misplaced???

            As I read it, the “he” you’re referencing is Newt.

          • moodyboots

            If it’s Obama vs. Newt, Obama will win 40 states, Newt about 10.

            If Paul enters the race, as he probably will as Newt endorsed and fundraised a former Democrat congressman running against Paul as they hate each other since 1980 when Newt was a Rockfeller Republican, then Obama wins 47 states, Newt 3.

            I’m sorry this is so incredibly hard to understand for someone like you.

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            And you are saying that Ron Paul’s chances of winning over the electorate are greater than Newt’s.

            You can attempt to blow this off as ignorance or stupidity on my part all you like, but that is exactly what you have stated.

          • moodyboots

            Again, I’m not saying that. It’s becoming amusing how you can’t get it.

            Let me sort out for you:

            Obama vs. Newt – 59% vs 41%

            Obama vs Newt vs Paul – 55% vs 34% vs 11%

            And I’m not advocating anything. I’m saying that if Newt is the GOP nominee, then Paul will run as a 3rd party because he hates Newt .

          • lineholder

            You don’t support Newt Gingrich. Other than that, what you are attempting to accomplish in the comments you are making is as clear as mud, other than to present a fatalistic image of what the outcomes of this race might turn out to be if Gingrich is nominated in the hopes of persuading people to vote otherwise.

            It isn’t entirely up to you any more than it is entirely up to me. If there is anything that this race is proving, it is that the American electorate is not in the mood to accept the status quo and that they are determined to make up their own minds about who they will support.

          • moodyboots

            I’ve been fighting for conservatism for decades and it became familiar to see Newt on the other side of the barricade, albeit within the same party.

            Then I saw him disgracing the party once he finally had an opportunity to satisfy his power hungry self.

            Then I saw him working as a lobbyist and go back to his days of bashing conservatives for “lacking ideas”.

            My intentions are very clear: I don’t want Newt as the nominee because it’d mean re-electing Obama and even if not, he’d once again disgrace the party and conservatives if elected President.

          • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

            Sounds similar to Ron Paul’s denial of those racist newsletters that were written in his name which he claims he didn’t write. Early on, he didn’t deny authorship, but today he claims he didn’t even read them. Kinda like Obama claiming he sat in Rev. Wright’s church but never heard him damn America.

            And Newt’s endorsement of Laughlin isn’t quite on the same scale as Paul’s endorsement of Cynthia McKinney, one of the most radical leftists in the country.

          • moodyboots

            Newt did with a freaking Ethics violation hearing response what Paul did with some newsletters. And at least Paul didn’t actively fundraised and campaigned for that nutjob. But it speaks volumes when Ron Paul becomes the only standard that can make Newt a bit less appalling.

            Of course in some aspects Newt Gingrich is unique, besides being the only Speaker in the history of the union to be disciplined by an ethics violation: none of the other candidates is a serial cheater, none was ever was forced to pay a fine by the House Ethics Committee, none has ever supporter a federal health care mandate for a decade, none was ever suggested that the Constitution was an obstacle, none has ever received millions of taxpayers money to lobby for the Fed, none has ever called Ryan’s budget “right wing social engineering”, etc etc

          • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

            … not for his ethics charges, which happened earlier.

            That said, there was a ‘coup attempt’ and it speaks volumes that few in congress are endorsing him.

            He was viewed as a liability by the end of his term.

          • WillWong

            Congress is at 5% approval!

            For the record, Newt resigned from the Speakership and his own house seat after the 1998 elections when the republican lost 5 seats but still maintained its majority.

            And for the record, government spending took off after he left to be replaced by guys like Hastert and Boehner.

            Looking at the results of congress post Newt, i venture to guess that conservatives missed the leadership of Gingrich.

          • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

            The correlation is interesting, that Newt presided over the only period in the past 60 years that we restrained spending and balanced the budget … BUT …

            maybe we should credit then Rep Kasich as budget chair and the whole caucus for doing this?

            the detailed history is that the conservatives in the GOP caucus were treated harshly by Newt, and he lost support because of his ‘erratic’ leadership…

            http://www.thejewishweek.com/blogs/political_insider/if_you_knew_newt_they_know_newt

            When he disagreed with conservative colleagues, the Speaker called them “extremists,” “cannibals” and “jihadists.”

            Coburn said Gingrich had one standard of loyalty and behavior for himself and a different one for others. The two clashed frequently because Coburn thought the Speaker was moving away from the conservative principles that brought Republicans to power.

            ?He?s the last person I?d vote for for president of the United States … His life indicates he does not have a commitment to the character traits necessary to be a great president,? he said.

          • Common_Cents

            Here what he says about Pelosi in 2010:

            ?Come on now. She is nice ? how many of you all have met her? She?s a nice person,? Coburn said. “Let me give you a little lesson here. I hope you will listen to me. Just because somebody disagrees with you don?t [sic] mean they?re not a good person. And i want to tell you, I’ve been in the senate for five years and I?ve taken a lot of that, because I?ve been on the small side ?- both in the Republican Party and the Democrat Party.”

            And chummy w/ Obama? Calling Fox biased? but no mention of other media? For all his conservative bona fides, he has a blind spot. Coburn can be a lot like McCain, worried about being accepted by his friends across the aisle. barf.

            “To underscore his point about civility, Coburn formed a friendship in 2004 when he joined the Senate with then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), who was also a freshman at the time.

            After an audience member suggested that the government could jail people for not buying health insurance under the new healthcare law, Coburn said “that makes for good TV news on Fox but that isn?t the intention.”

            The senator continued, telling told the mostly conservative crowd to not be fooled by the “biased” information from Fox News.

            “What we have to have is make sure we have a debate in this country so that you can see what?s going on and make a determination yourself,? Coburn said. “So don?t catch yourself being biased by Fox News that somebody is no good. The people in Washington are good. They just don?t know what they don?t know.”

            http://washingtonscene.thehill.com/in-the-know/36-news/3281-gop-senator-defends-pelosi-calls-fox-news-biased

          • In The Hook

            I don’t know Nancy Pelosi. She strikes me as a shrill and I really doubt we would get along. But I have plenty of friends with whom I stridently disagree on a number of very personal and very heated issues. That’s fine. We can still be friends but I assure you I’m not going to roll over and die if they try to push their political and/or religious beliefs or lack thereof in the public eye.

            There’s a difference between having friends on the other side and being obsessed with making everyone around you happy. Coburn is a fighter for conservatism and there’s no doubt about that.

            Coburn was also right about Obamacare. The goal isn’t to throw people in jail, it’s to put us on a path to socialized medicine. I can’t imagine Obama would be blind enough to understand that the optics of locking somebody up for not buying insurance would be just God-awful for the Dems, so why would he want that in the bill?

          • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

            Exactly so.

            I trust Coburn to talk straight.

            Because Coburn had some nice things to say about Pelosi means only that he can disagree without being disagreeable. Funny thing, even a hardcore liberal or conservative can be men and women of their word.

            But the article I referenced showed that not only did gingrich undercut conservatives who wanted to cut spending in 1997-1998, he did it dishonestly. that is surely why Coburn has such harsh words for Newt. He was betrayed.

            I know that Newt fibbed on his conservative credentials on Monday. There is a record and paper trail to show that he inflated and tweaked his resume. So I’ll take Coburn’s word over Newt’s.

          • JSobieski

            Coburn gets a bad rap for just being a polite gentleman and treating people from across with isle with respect (kind of like that paragraph in the Daniel’s response that Rush didn’t like).

            Trusting Coburn over Newt isn’t the issue, because I 100% trust Coburn over Newt.

            However, I don’t see why Coburn would have any special insights as to how to weigh the merits of Romney vs. Newt. My support of Newt over Romney is made in full knowledge that Newt possesses a lot of undersirable traits possessed by Nixon and Clinton.

            I have no confidence Romney would be anything but a caretaker President. Nothing would be rolled back, nothing would be made worse. It would be the greatest dissipation of political capital (i.e. tea party) in modern history. Newt, if for other reason than ego, wants to shake things up. He wants to make things happen.

            Both Romney and Newt are incredibly flawed. We need a brokered convention.

            Otherwise, I forced to support a candidate I don’t trust over a candidate whom I know won’t accomplish anything.

        • Tbone

          Voters will have to accept a flawed candidate with good policies over a proven non-diety with failed policies.

  • conservativemusician

    We have flawed candidates. Fine. Heard ya’. You’re not saying anything different than what we hear every day from the 24-7 talking heads.

    Since you are making predictions, I will make my own to the contrary:

    1) No matter who we put up against Obama, the election will be ultimately be about the abject failure that is the Obama administration. The overriding reality of an economy in the crapper is going to the main issue, regardless of how weak our candidates are.

    2) I predict record turnout by the conservative base as well as independents and disillusioned Obama voters to remove the cancer on this nation that is Obama. We will not be sitting out this time around. The stakes are far too high and the situation is so dire and many will realize that even a serial adulterer or a flip-flopping moderate are far better alternatives to the socialism train we are on now.

  • tailfins1959

    Romney might be the “bowling pin” candidate of the media: Set him up and knock him down. However, if Romney spends millions and throws the kitchen sink at Gingrich, Gingrich will emerge to be a stronger candidate.

  • daveinthed

    Pure vacancy on display here. Newt should withdraw. And apologize. And return his $1.6 mil that the taxpayers were stuck with.

  • tea4me

    …of all the Newt haters.

    It’s really unbelievable! Are these all those college educated $200,000′ers that were the only constituencies to “slightly” go for Romney in S. Carolina?

    Fortunately the grass roots conservatives know better,,,and out number these people.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    Should I now proceed to document all of EE’s flip-flops over the years? How about interviews with ex-girlfriends and co-workers. Surely, since this has become the standard measurement for what will make a good President?

    By the way, can EE give snappy debate responses? They don’t have to be philosophically enlightening or useful. Just crowd pleasing. Somewhat like a WWF chair beating or minor smash-up at a NASCAR race.

    I ultimately find comfort in STA’s Summa and “The Government of Creatures ;

    Certain ancient philosophers denied the government of the world, saying that all things happened by chance. But such an opinion can be refuted as impossible in two ways.

  • steve962

    I haven’t bothered commenting on political blogs in this season, because I have nothing particularly positive to say about ANY of the presidential candidates this year, from any party. (Okay… except maybe Gary Johnson…)

    But I was so amused by this post I actually had to log in for the first time in years and say so. Glad to know someone still has a bit of a sense of a humor here. :D

    I’m even more amused by the other commenters who took it WAY TOO seriously. (Although as with all good satire, that core bit of truth there *is* actually a little bitter pill to swallow… :P )