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The “Stand By Your Man” pro Cain Piece

By: tngal (Diary)  |  October 31st, 2011 at 07:09 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

What a day Cainiacs! All the doom and gloom and hang wringing and for what. I personally think not a lot, if this is all they got.  Because so much was focused on this–how about a tally of  the good news of the day.

First, things seem ok in Iowa.

From Burns and Haberman  (yeah Politico). They talked with  Steve Grubbs, Cain’s Iowa Chairman.

“I bet we’ll land more precinct captains than we did before the story” and”These sorts of distractions are not stopping our campaign  from reaching our daily goals.”

Grubbs, who declined to comment on how Cain and his national  staff are handling the situation, said the campaign in Iowa has “a full phone  bank of volunteers” making calls on Cain’s behalf Monday. He said the story is  “not much of a distraction.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67240.html#ixzz1cOs0wmpG

So, a full phone bank sounds good. True supporters are NOT running off in droves.  Remember those are volunteers so they could have walked at any time or not bothered to show up.

 

Next, lets zip to Texas.  Cain tops Perry by one point (statistically tied) in the new Univ. Tex/Texas Tribune poll.  Yes this was surveyed before the bombshell. But its a Texas poll. Perry should have mopped the floor with him. But this is not evidence of a mopping. In fact, I’m not seeing a good dusting.

“Cain got 27 percent to Perry’s 26 percent among Texas registered voters who identify themselves as Republicans. U.S. Rep. Ron Paul was next with 12 percent, followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 9 percent and former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 8 percent.”  Other candidates got 2 percent or less.  If the hit piece hadn’t been announced last night this would have been the story of the day.

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-presidential-election/cain-edges-perry-new-uttt-poll/

 

 

In case you don’t know how the campaign came to be this year there is a great article from NRO featuring Marc Block. he talks with Robert Costa.  Its four pages long and very insightful. Not gotcha questions or that sort of stuff. Just a nice background piece on how they met, and what the strategy was going to be.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/281534/blowing-smoke-robert-costa?pg=1

 

And there also came out another hit piece  today (shocking) concerning campaign finance rules. I don’t know enough about this stuff which is why I’m not tops on anybody’s list to be on a preosidential campaign. The good news is the campaign says they are on this, and have already asked for an outside review.

“As with any suggestions of this type, we have asked outside counsel to investigate the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s suggestions and may comment, if appropriate, when that review is completed,” Block said in an e-mailed statement.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iIRi9FJxU3kKkqebH2_xsh-H5Qig?docId=66637de6e7cc4c8e9ea07c9ab3d078bc

Take heart cainiacs.  Add the good stuff if I missed it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • lineholder

    in that article from Business Insider (which I consider to be non-partisan for the most part), this was the lead-in to their story

    “Herman Cain may be the only presidential candidate in history to actually benefit from a sex scandal.”

    I think that is a rather unique perspective, don’t you?

    http://www.businessinsider.com/amazing-must-watch-vidoe-herman-cain-just-broke-into-song-at-the-national-press-club-2011-10?op=1

    BTW, thanks for this, tngal.

    • tngal

      At least Business Insider is being fair. This whole story equates to skimpy money (which EE pointed out), there’s no dress with a stain, just some women who felt uncomfortable, and what exactly is harassment. And where politico made it appear two women supposedly were paid off..NBC can only confirm one.

      I’ll rethink my support if it turns out he groped or worse and the woman ran screaming down the hallway half naked, or if th ewomen turn out to be to young boys, but i’m just not feeling it with this story. Too many of the people (many females) who worked with him in the past say he’s just not that kind of player.

      (Didn’t he do good in the Texas polls!!!! )

      • lineholder

        If something is substantiated, by no means will I just give it a “pass”. But until such time as it is….I just have to rely on my discretion for now.

        I have to admit that I was surprised by the outcomes in the TX poll, and yes, I’m glad to see him do well. Did you look at the specifics of the demographics? It’s the most conservative voters who have gone towards Cain. I wonder why? And I’m not meaning that facetiously…just curious. (I enjoy trending analysis, LOL). Also, in a PPP poll 5 weeks ago, Perry’s support in TX was 49%, so this was a significant drop in a short period of time, wasn’t it?

        http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/31/poll-in-texas-rick-perry-narrowly-trails-herman-cain/

        • tngal

          I can’t go deep in the numbers. Neil is way better than I. As this is a “state” thing I don’t know if he’ll look at it. I just kind of figured Perry would have been waaaay up there since it was Texas and its his “home field advantage”. I don’t know. Gore was suppose to be a fav to pick up Tennessee during his run, and we all saw what happened there.

        • retire05

          I suggest you read this:

          http://www.blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2009/07/those-donations-from-texas-tribune-founder-john-thornton

          The Trib is as far left as they can get. Right up there with the NYSlimes. Oh, yeah, they’ll print a couple of articles pretending to be “non” partisan, but they are in the tank for Democrats and have been anti-Perry for years.

          Give me a break. The Trib polls 800 people and can only find just slightly less that say they are Republicans? In Texas? And you are buying into that b/s?

          I have some ocean front property for you in Arizona. You can share it with tngal.

          • lineholder

            I’ll take that into consideration re: how much confidence I put in this poll.

  • David123

    Either the allegations are false, in which case Cain is being smeared and framed.

    Or the allegations are true – in which case it’s just “lying about sex” – no big deal, right? Cain hasn’t even been under oath about it. Heck – if the allegations are true, Cain would just be trying to act presidential … in a Clintonian sort of way right? There couldn’t be a double-standard here could there?

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      heard?

  • rightwingmom52

    to his belt, despite the heavy attendance by Ron Paul fans.

    Story is here

    The video of his speech here in Birmingham last week is worth a listen. Here is part 1 in which he thanks the restaurant owner (you know the one another commenter questioned my mentioning):

    Part 2 is here.

    On stage with Mr. Cain are 2 local radio talk show hosts, the founder of the Rainy Day Patriots (our local tea party), the founder of the Frederick Douglass Republicans (another local group) and the ALGOP State Chairman.

    • tngal

      thank you for this vid.

      ” You are not going to send me to Washingotn DC to learn how Washington works. You are going to send me to Washington tDC o change Washington DC.

      Part preacher, part inspiration.

      He’s so common sense. Its been a long time since we had that in the WH. He doesn’t have to be perfect for me. Just real. A “How would I behave in this situation” kind of candidate.

      • rightwingmom52

        was the prayer and pledge that preceded the speech. An unabashed display of Christianity and patriotism.

        And from the naysayers, I know, I know, just emotion. Blah, blah, blah.

        • Doc Holliday

          and can’t instill it. The nerve of some here comparing Cain to Obama. Well, we want someone who is charismatic, and it helps when he is right on the issues.

          • Xasteius

            rooms to let 50 cents.

          • izoneguy

            without a heart

          • Xasteius

            man of means by no means

          • Doc Holliday

            No phone, no pool, no pets

        • lineholder

          I don’t think it is. Toward the end of the first video, Cain makes the statement, “Let the people who believe in this nation lead this nation”. He’s right. That’s exactly how it should be. The people who believe in this nation are the ones who are most likely to have the determination and perseverance it is going to take to turn things around so that this nation gets on the right track.

          Yes, there are some elements of emotion involved. There are elements of emotion involved in respecting this nation’s history. There are elements of emotion involved in appreciating what this nation has stood for and against over the years. There are elements of emotion involved in having a vision of restoring this nation as well.

          But it won’t be the people who either don’t care about those things or who don’t believe in those things who turn this nation around. It won’t be the career politicians who are far more inclined to put the what’s in the best interest of politics (usually their own) first at the top of their list of priorities rather acting as good stewards in the role as public servants.

          It is the people who deeply believe with every breath they take that we the people should be considering as candidates for the leadership role in this nation. Cain believes.

    • Doc Holliday

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    • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

      I hope everyone watching it will think about the fact it was delivered off-the-cuff without a teleprompter. No “ums”, “ahs,” “errs.” Indeed, Herman needs to start making fun of Opuppet as he’s delivering his speeches.

      Thanks again,

      ColdWarrior

      P.S. My only criticism is that Herman needs to change “Stay Involved” to “Get Involved.” And then, specifically, outline HOW and WHY his supporters need to get involved inside the Party where they live. I told him and his staff that last summer. Face to face. One-on-one. Will he follow that free advice? Hope so. We’ll see. Maybe my big mistake was not charging him for the advice. ;-)

      • rightwingmom52

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  • explodinghead

    The Texas Tribune is a liberal rag that has been against Perry since he ran for Governor. They were also against George Bush, and any other republican, never mind Conservative. The University of Texas is located in Austin with the biggest collection of far lefty loons in the Lone Star State, so I really would not put any stock in that particular poll.
    Anyone can say they are a registered Republican when they call you on the phone, I have personally beem polled by the Tribune before and responded that I was a Democrat just for kicks. If it serves their narrative to take Perry down they will report Cain ahead, then when they want to take Cain down they will show Romney sweeping past everyone.
    Cain is definitely rising in the polls, but this particular publication is not to be trusted.

    • tngal

      O.K. now we know to view this paper with a grain of salt. For those of us not familiar with the texas papers and their respective bias’, we rely on info such as this to help guide us through the murky waters.

      Glad to see you can point out “Cain is definitely rising in the polls”.

  • retire05

    http://www.agendawise.com/2011/04/rosenthal-alves-texas-tribune-ut-establishment-and-leftist-donors

    Notice, both my links about the Trib are before Perry even got into the race.

    You’ve been had, tngal. How does it feel to know that you were taken in by a far left organization (the Texas Tribune) that takes funding from George Soros and his Open Society group?

    • Finrod

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  • rightwingmom52

    and why she isn’t on the campaign trail.

    here

  • tngal

    The Des Moines Register has a small blurb up on Cain doing an interview with WHO radio. He, naturally, was asked by the host about the “scandal”, and then was asked about Newt Gingrich.(possible running mate, hmmm?)

    _____

    • BA Cyclone

      I ended up burning an afternoon vacation from work to put in an exterior door, and the station has Rush on 2-hour delay so I got to hear most of it, rare treat for me. The local program on after Rush is Simon Conway — a conservative of sorts and pretty entertaining. Straight shooter.

      Herman Cain called in and it was a good interview. I’ll probably download the podcast SEE HERE and listen to it again. In the 2nd hour when Herman was gone, Simon actually reacted that he ‘thought Herman tipped his hand at his running mate’. I thought that was a little strong. More I think everyone is just surprised that Herman didn’t give the standard politician “i have a short list” line.

      Also in the 2nd hour of that show, there were at least two callers who got on the air to say ‘i’ve never given to a candidate, but I am giving to Herman Cain today because this stuff is sickening.’

      BACKFIRE (so far)

  • rightwingmom52

    From American Spectator, here.

    Lincoln borrowed his point from the Bible (Ecclesiastes 9:4: “For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.”) in his fabled House Divided speech, using it to contrast himself with Stephen A. Douglas. Said candidate Lincoln: “A living dog is better than a dead lion.”

    By which Lincoln meant that a man who cares nothing for the task at hand is what he termed a “caged and toothless” lion when it comes to doing the job that needs to be done. Lincoln was referring to Douglas’s unwillingness to end slavery. In today’s world Cain is effectively using the same sentiment to illustrate his differences with rival Mitt Romney and others — President Obama included — on everything from how to approach changing the tax code (Cain’s 9/9/9 plan) to putting the brakes on the growth of government and, most tellingly, refusing to buy into the dime store New Deal mentality that has become a hallmark of Establishment moderate Republicans.

    Cain is not going to lay down and become a dead lion just because folks are trying to get him out of the way.

    There’s also a tease of an article coming soon from Alfred Regnery, “My One-Night Stand With a Real Pig.” That should be interesting.

  • lineholder

    Just found it announced at American Thinker this morning

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/11/at_last_a_serious_televised_gop_debate.html

    • paulplantowin

      I hope this sort of format will begin to catch on.
      Maybe c-span will get enough viewers to be motivated to air more.

    • rightwingmom52

      Setting the DVR right now because I’ll either be in Tuscaloosa watching the Crimson Tide beat up on LSU live and in person or we’ll be watching it. Either way, I’ll have to watch the debate after the game.

  • tngal

    The positives coming out for “Our Man Cain” are very good today. yesterday should have thrown him off his game. But from what i’m seeing he hasn’t stopped any interviews or cancelled appearances. He’s just moving on. Getting more cash and attention. People that weren’t paying attention to an election which is still a year away are beginning to look at the candidates. And Cain keeps making the news, for good or bad, but yet they still drift toward him.

    This escapade has definately backfired. The fire has turned into a bonfire of more support.

    Ummmmm smore’s .

  • lineholder

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

    Ballot support measure is only updated once a month with Gallup. But for Cain supporters, it still looks good! Cain’s name recognition is now up to 80%. His intensity levels are almost 2.5X the amount of his closest competitors in this category. His strongly favorable/favorable values are 76%, with 32% strongly favorable.

    • tngal

      Hah. I love it. Gallup shows he’s got positive name recognition, (of course this was surveyed before the “thingy”) and Herman raked in 250k yesterday. Maybe the biggest fundraising day he’s ever had. (this comes after Sunday nite’s “thingy”).

      His support is coming in via dollars. The more people understand him, the more they like him.

      And so now, politico keeps this on the front page. And he gets more recognition, and maybe more dollars?

      What is wrong with this picture? This isn’t the way poltics is suppose to work.

      • lineholder

        I got a phone call from a friend of mine earlier today. We both have a genuine interest in broad-spectrum societal influences and how the dynamics of different events play into what goes on within our society. (Honestly, that’s where my strengths lie, not politics itself per se).

        This friend mentioned to me that if what he’s hearing today is true, then it has broad-spectrum implications, Cain is connecting with voters in a way that very few candidates have in the past few decades, because one of the things that he emphasizes that resonates with voters is “the American spirit”. It’s this part of who we are that is very strong-willed, determined, patriotic and independent-minded. His comments were “We maybe looking at a true revival of the American spirit on the horizon!”.

        Like Cain says, it’s the “sleeping giant that has been awakened”.

        • tngal

          just thinking out loud. Not some skinny little crotch-rocket bike. But a big honkin’ Harley. Possible tie-ins for a print ad.

          • lineholder

            I know some Harley folks…salt of the earth! Seriously! Quiet for the most part, but they have a way of joining forces in order to get things done that has earned my respect many times over.

            Cain on a Harley. Anything else you want to add to that?

        • bzip

          Oh my, “Cain is connecting with voters” where have I heard this mania at before.

          Oh that right – the one and only guy who could transcend politics, the guy who could work across the isle, the guy who wasn’t much of a insider, the guy who inspired so many that he became the current president.

          Could someone please answer me to why I as a voter should vote for someone who has no experience? Someone who has no record to look back, no governing experience, no way to know how he will govern?

          I just can’t seem to get any answers. Take this as a lesson on how to convince the general election voters.

          • carolynr

            On top of that…how Cain is rising to the top is that we are so sick and tired of politicians that we grab onto anyone that isn’t. No…too many gaffes, too many clarifications, too much confusion about tax plan. this guy is not ready for prime time and America is ready to fall off the cliff.

            Might not like Perry…but I love the policies. I like Newt…good ideas..but is he part of the GOP group think? So…I still say Perry because the closer government is to the people (states) the more control they have over it.

            I also think you don’t have to be some great debater. Obama is a liar and he is anti-America. Oh we can call him an ideologue to make us feel better…but not me. I don’t think you have to be a rocket scientist (excuse the pun for Cain) to debate obama. The man lies and he has taken our freedoms from us and is not just for redistribution…he is a Marxist.

            Perry is a personification of the American Dream…Obama wants to take that away from us and that isn’t American.

          • paulplantowin

            You compare Cain and Obama on the level of
            - connecting with voters
            - the one and only guy who could transcend politics
            - the guy who wasn’t much of an insider etc.
            Yet we knew Obama sat in Jeremiah Wright’s church for years, hung out with radicals, socialists, Marxist revolutionaries, was a ‘community organizer’ etc.
            Cain has a totally different background, totally different associations, is known personally by Hannity, Boortz, Erick Erickson, etc who call him a conservative.
            I get it that you want someone with experience – Perry seems to be your pick.
            But the fact that Cain is likeable, connects with people, motivates people does not mean he is another Obama.
            IMO Obama is doing exactly what he wanted to do – run America down.
            Serious question – would it bother you if Perry could connect, motivate, inspire etc. like Cain can?
            I know Cain has no government experience – but he thinks political experience is less important than problem solving experience.
            Maybe he is right. What we’ve been doing for the past 50-60 years sure isn’t.

          • tngal

            so nice of you to drop by.

            I was peepin’ at you making remarks on some of the other Cain posts. Stuff about inconsistancies, and herman said this but now he says that.

            I had to shake my head, and actually felt sorry for you.

            What is your candidate doing? Or Romney. Or Bachmann. Any of them?. I’m not hearing outrage, in fact they are relatively quiet. I’ve seen one thing from Santorum. They know it is sucking the oxygen out of what should be going on this close to Iowa. The candidates should be pumpng up their own plans, platforms and ideas. They know that. They want to get on the tlak shows and talk about their stuff. They want to avoid the Cain story and get back to their own campaigns. But as long as you and people like you try to give creedence to the story by hanging on in a vain attempt to defame Herman Cain, politico and the other hacks will keep running with some warmed over variation.

            Take a tip from your candidate. Keep your thoughts on the down low. Maybe then we can get back to where we should be this cycle.

            Or you can keep up the negative push, while our candidate keeps raking in the dough. Thanks for that, btw! The story has been up since Sunday night. Still waiting for the other shoe. It hasn’t dropped. So, the story is over for now.

            I’ll keep peepin’ atcha over there. But pretty soon, I’ll quit feeling sorry for you.

          • lineholder

            bzip, first of all, this a PRO-Cain diary. If you want to TRASH Cain on a PRO-Cain diary, technically that’s a threadjack.

            Secondly, I have been and still am open-minded enough that my mind could change between now and the primaries. But I have to tell you that the impression I’ve gotten because of the way a lot of Perry supporters, including some who are actually working with the Perry campaign (and excuse me, but when a Perry supporter posts comments in black and white for all the world to read about what was discussed during a conference call with the Perry campaign…yeah, that let’s us the rest of know beyond any shadow of doubt what the deal is here), have responded to posters here at RS, including many people that I’ve come to respect during the past three years that I’ve been here, has left a really bad impression in my own mind, not only of those individuals but also of Perry himself, because rather obviously the candidate and/or those running his campaign approves of this kind of approach in trying to “persuade” people to vote for him.

            Thirdly, this is an anti-politician environment. I’m a human being and I’m just as susceptible to being influenced by the environment in which I live as any other human being. And in case you haven’t recognized it yet, it’s dumber than dirt to try to DRIVE people towards a candidate who is also a politician when the environment that exists is strongly anti-politician. It’s wiser to try to DRAW them to the candidate instead. Comments that mock, scoff, belittle, or ridicule a potential voter aren’t exactly conducive to DRAWING people toward a candidate. It DRIVES them AWAY from that candidate!

            If the type of approach that has been used here at RS is being implemented on a wider range at other Conservative website, then it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if this has actually contributed to Perry’s DROP in the polls.

          • runner12

            then the authoress of this diary has been equally guilty of “trashing” Perry on diaries that are favorable towards Perry. While I think that some of bzip’s comments elsewhere may reach the “bot” level, the questions he/she posed in this thread are absolutely legitimate.

            The question of experience is not an attacking question, it is the primary question surrounding Cain for many voters. Given his gaffe on China, this issue is pushed to the forefront once again.

            The stupid harassment attacks and the other personal attacks are frivolous and uncalled for, but questioning whether a man with no governing experience is ready to be the leader of the free world is not only legitimate but the duty of all of us as citizens of the Republic.

          • runner12

            I will also add that I think bzip’s comments were respectful and honest. They did not warrant the response that he/she received.

          • lineholder

            It’s highly doubtful that I would try to answer it, primarily because I’ve seen people who even remotely support Cain in any way, shape, form or fashion be baited with these kinds of question many times over during the past few weeks. In other words, questions of this sort are put forth by a Perry supporter for the sole purpose of trying to draw an answer out of a Cain supporter, then the answer that is provided in belittled and ridiculed to the hilt. I may be slow in the uptake, runner12, but I don’t like exposing myself to repeated ridicule.

            And the answer I gave was an honest response. Some of the people posting on this site have a specific goal in mind, and as far as I can tell, they’re not above using a “the end justifies the means” approach to achieve that goal either. So they don’t particularly care how many people they alienate or drive away from their candidate by approaching this way as long as their message is presented in the way that will accomplish their goals.

            It gets irritating and frustrating, to say the least. There have been times when I’ve thought about asking questions that might clarify some of Perry’s positions in my mind, but I’m not about to do that with people who have nothing better to do with their time to mock and scoff at voters.

          • runner12

            to ask me anything you want and I will try an answer it to the best of my ability. I have no illiusions about politicians nor Perry. He is not perfect, but he is the best in the field in my mind.

            Maybe we can show others that a Cain supporter and a Perry supporter can have a civil, informed conversation without resorting to “bot” behavior, LOL.

          • gator_hoo

            Lineholder, I ask this because I have seen you make this allegation before, that you dislike Perry’s supporters. I have seen Perry supporters go over the line, and I have seen Cain supporters go over the line. I have called out people on both sides for going over the top.

            But please answer a few basic questions for me. Is it out of bounds to point out a candidate’s weaknesses? If so, what is a legitimate question? If a question is legitimate, how is it a bait question (since you suggest that bails question was both legitimate and a bait question.)

            Allow me to suggest one thing that I personally have found frustrating, and I know I am not alone. In many posts, I have raised legitimate questions about Cain’s conservative credentials, when he has made a number of statements suggesting that he is more likely to attempt to take moderate positions. I won’t go into detail here. The questions are real, and they are legitimate, and they never get answered. It has made me feel that Cain supporters are unwilling to actually engage or to take an objective eye to Cain.

            You may also be frustrated that Perry supporters (as well as Romney supporters and Gingrich supporters) are discussing the sexual harassment charges, but we didn’t create them, and they aren’t magically going to go away before the election. I would have been fine if he could have denied them outright or explained them away, but he opted to do neither of those. I don’t raise this to be anti-Cain, I do raise it to say that the questions are legitimate, and it isn’t “anti-Cain” to point out that his answers have not been consistent, or at least illegitimately so. Does his failure to explain them away mean he’s guilty? No. But it does mean he has failed to explain them away, which unfortunately, is almost as bad in politics.

            I hope we will be able to have productive discussions, and I know sometimes the discussion will get heated because we all want to see Obama out and consider the stakes to be higher than normal. For what it’s worth, I don’t hold any of Cain’s supporters against him. Even where you disagree with Perry, I hope that you will consider him on his own merits.

            Thanks,

            Gator_hoo

          • runner12

            There has been “bot” behavior in the Perry and Cain camp. But that does not mean that I evaluate the candidates based on only a handful of people’s behavior. A candidate should be judged on his/her own merit.

            If a few of us here at RS can set the tone for honest and respectful debate on our candidates’ strengths and weaknesses then we may be able to change the tone and inform people at the same time.

          • gator_hoo

            For all of the eagerness for the Cain supporters on this site to complain about Perry’s supporters, I have earnestly tried to reach out and ask, why do you support Cain? What makes Cain a conservative?

            I have never gotten an answer. This contributes to the perception that the Cain supporters here are fanbois, with no substance to their support. By consistently posting pro-Cain statements without substance and failing to engage to posters who are legitimately trying to reach out, you alienate yourselves, and then complain that you are alienated.

            This post isn’t intended to be mean spirited, but it is a legitimate source of frustration for me.

          • tyman

            It is absolutely a legitimate question, and one that I had to ask of myself as an early Cain supporter.

  • tngal

    “In South Carolina, businessman Herman Cain leads the GOP field with former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney ten points behind. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is the only other candidate in double digits. The survey was conducted on Tuesday night following two days of media coverage concerning allegations of sexual harassment against Cain. ”
    ________
    Cain – 33
    Romney 23
    Newt – 15

    I know I shouldn’t look! I just know I shouldn’t. Too early for polls. Other stuff may come out. But, I can’t help it. Too excited!!! Now, I gotta pee.

    The elephants are faithful….

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/south_carolina/election_2012_south_carolina_republican_primary

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

  • tngal

    it comes in the vein of Politico. Citing an unnamed source who was at one of the events where Cain was alledgedly harrassing somebody. He says Chris Willson’s story is basically a crock.
    ____
    “A Republican source who was at the dinner in which pollster Chris Wilson says Herman Cain sexually harassed a young staffer is contradicting the account, telling CBS News he never saw Cain sexually harass anyone that night, although he does remember Cain drinking. “I did not see a lech,” the source said.

    “The source said Cain “may have been a little drunk,” but he didn’t see anything inappropriate–and added that he never heard anyone discuss anything inappropriate that may have occurred. He said about a half dozen people were there.
    ____

    This story is up on CBS. Wilson is the one who did polling for Rick Perry’s super PAC.

    And a reminder dear Gentlecaniancs,
    Hopefully you’re still out there and I’m not talking to myself. Ask yourself what was it about him that drew you to him? If it was because he was unconventional, unique, plain spoken, and non conformist, take heart at what you’re seeing. Because he still is all of those things. He’s not approaching this bruhaha the same as a Perry or a Romney or any other politician would. That’s because he’s not a politician. He’s a very good businessman. You don’t answer to every allegation until you have full details on the allegation. He wasn’t given details 10 days before the story and we’re still not getting them.

    Now we’re getting, as in the case above, stories which prove there are opposing viewpoints to what REALLY happened, or we’re subjected to gutter stories, enter pjmedia.

    PJ Media did a story this afternoon. It was wild. trouble was all the wild parts had to be redacted. Their eyewitness acounts didn’t really pan out or something. PJ had to walk back what it wrote. He keeps getting up there and saying this is baseless, that story is baseless, this is wrong. People wouldn’t listen. Maybe now, they will.

    And..Herman was asked to speak to a group of doctors regarding his views on healthcare. When he left, the docs and hotel staff had to push back a bunch of angry reporters. The reporters were miffed because Herman wouldn’t talk about the story. Those reporters were told by the docs—Keep It On Healthcare! For some inane reason the hacks think a press card is a license to ignore the doctors request. When your told no, the answer is no. Herman then told them no , in no uncertain terms.

    And even though nobody in their right mind with an ounce of intelligence can look at polls this early on (so I’m reminded), Cain is still up nationally in a new poll, surveyed yesterday by Rasmussen. Check it out on RCP.

    Ok, did I miss any good stuff?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57317941-503544/source-disputes-account-of-cain-impropriety-at-va-dinner

    • rightwingmom52

      but my workload has increased substantially in the last couple of weeks, and I’ve actually had to “work” during the day. Reminiscent of Maynard G. Krebs (or is that reference a little old for you to remember). Not to mention that I’m more of a night owl myself.

      You’re doing a fine job of representin’ though, so keep it up. If you haven’t read any of the articles over at Forbes already, here are a couple of links.

      This one discusses his plan for health care reform and reminds folks of his involvement in taking out Hilarycare – here.

      This one discusses the response to the Politico hit piece – here.

      • tngal

        Its been tough finding the good nuggets the last couple of days. We really need to get him back in Iowa, and get on with this campaign.

        OMG, the tv’s on in the other room. Some msm station is on. Herman is NOT the lead story. Michael Jckson and an OWS meltdown somewhere are top 2. Good. Maybe they realize this silliness doesn’t rate top billing.

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  • jout99

    Voters have had enough of lame issues and the left’s desire to keep their boy in office at all costs.

    I can hear them saying “Is this all you got?” !!!

  • jackdaniels11

    One woman could be making stuff up. Especially if there’s a revenge motive.

    But 3 women? This is why politico waited until they had 2 victims.

    With only 1 victim, the story would be too suspect.

    Look what Clinton did to Paula Jones when she was his only victim that was willing to come forward.

  • snowshooze

    And that sums up the current state of affairs for the Cain Camp.
    Actually, you cannot help but like him. Folksy.
    But it would take the likes of Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy to get out of this. ( Bill never actually KILLED anyone in case you need to know who is the uncontested leader…)