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Lee Siegel is an eminent cultural critic. I admit to being unsure what a “cultural critic” actually is, or how one ascends to the profession, but I do know that Lee Siegel knows. In this capacity, he writes for The New Republic and The Daily Beast. He writes about things cultural, including RedState.

And he gets things badly wrong.

Here’s how RedState began, according to Lee Siegel:

Go to Redstate and you might be forgiven for thinking Republicans were still in charge … [Erick] Erickson, a native Louisianan and former lawyer who lives in Macon, Georgia, sets the deceptively moderate tone. A Macon city councilman and a church deacon, he started the Web site in 2004, running it out of a coffee shop.

No. This is not just an error, it’s an error born of sheer laziness, and as such, is quite nearly unforgivable. Here’s how RedState actually started:

  • Sometime in March 2004, I posted at the now-defunct Tacitus.org that conservatives should get together and form their own online community hub.
  • I e-mailed the post to Ben Domenech with the suggestion that we create it together.
  • Ben Domenech suggested that Mike Krempasky would be indispensable to the effort.
  • On July 16th, 2004, Ben Domenech, Mike Krempasky and I launched RedState.org. That’s not a typo — the .com came later.

  • Sometime shortly thereafter — I forget exactly when — Erick Erickson became a regular. I resigned my leadership position in the site in mid-2005, and left it altogether that autumn. (Which makes me the Wozniak of RedState, I suppose: present at the creation, and deserving of no credit for its greatness now.) You know the rest: the site has grown, and frankly, under Erick’s leadership, it’s more relevant and huge now than I ever hoped for. Bravo for that.

    But a coffee shop in Macon, Georgia? Where did Lee Siegel get that?

    Unfortunately, it’s pretty obvious. Erick Erickson likes to work on RedState at a coffee shop in his hometown. When journalists write about him, he’s generally photographed there. Here’s one. And here’s another. It’s rather likely that Siegel saw these pictures, and/or their accompanying descriptions, and concluded that bloggers and blogs are where they began. Et voila, RedState’s founding is retold with all the veracity of a John Kerry war story.

    A minor point? Well, sure. And yes, I admit it’s a bit annoying on a personal level: like the forgotten Jacob Friedrich Brodbeck, it would be nice to have credit for the idea. Vastly more important, though, is correcting the record for its own sake. RedState matters — and that’s fully a credit to those who run it now — and so its history matters too. Erick Erickson is attacked by the left now because they imagine that if they bring him down, they bring down RS too. They won’t, but even if they did, they’re wrong. RedState is Erick, yes. RedState is also you. RedState is also Ben. RedState is also Mike. And just a little, it’s also me.

    And we’re not going away.

    COMMENTS

    • http://joshuatrevino.com Joshua Trevino

      I’m not going to ding Siegel for missing that one. If he knew, it would mean he understood the movement and site he was writing about — and that’s not in the cards!

      • E Pluribus Unum

        Unless “kicking him in the junk” is considered “dinging”.

      • http://jeffemanuel.net Jeff Emanuel

        I’m entirely used to the Erick-as-founder media myth. The “RS contributor ‘chuckdevore’” bit was just ridiculous.

        What a lazy writer.

    • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

      My first impulse was to look for my name. I mean, hello – user number #6 (or was it #8?)! I cruelly ban people and dance on the ashes! Heck, I blogrolled the Daily Beast on my personal site! What am I, chopped liver?

      But yeah. Josh gave me my shot both here and at Tacitus, so… blame him, I guess.

      • http://joshuatrevino.com Joshua Trevino

        There is no forgiveness.

        • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

          He knows nothing.

          It’s kind of like with Leon and Swords Crossed.

          BTW, this post reads like a “where babies come from” talk.

          • Icythus

            That one sure jogs the memory.

            • http://www.newledger.com Ben Domenech

              Thanks for correcting the record, Josh.

              Only you and I know the secret fourth member who was in attendance at that first meeting, whose identity will be forever shrouded by the mists of time.

            • Mike Krempasky

              n/t

            • Joshua Persons

              Good to see ya, Krempasky.

            • http://www.newledger.com Ben Domenech

              They brainwashed you after the raid.

        • Brian Simpson
      • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

        The user number order is preserved in RS 4, however RS 4′s #1 and #2 appear to be later admin accounts added by RS 2 and RS 4, bumping everyone up two. So adjusting for that…

        Josh/Tacitus 2, Krempasky 3, Ben/Augustine 4, Moe Lane 9, Paul Cella 10, Kevin Holtsberry 11, TCrown 12, and those are the only names I recognize in the first 25.

        That makes me 4521. Our most recent registration is 76199.

        • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

          I knew that it was top ten, at least.

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          Erick: 869.

          • gekster

            You ‘ve got me ciurious now as to my own

            • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

              I suspect it’d confuse a lot of people though.

            • gekster
            • Icythus

              and issue little cards too! ;-)

            • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

              They added two digits to their numbers to hide how small they were at first.

            • spim

              and not even #6

              sorry – couldn’t help myself with the ref
              (I promise to severely limit my off-topic silly posts)

            • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

              #49180, please come see me at the green dome.

            • Raven

              enlighten me?

            • acat

              This should answer your question. (starting around 2:30 so be patient)

              The Prisoner

              Mew

            • acat

              I know “registration date” was still there when I arrived…

              Mew

        • Joshua Persons

          I’m sure it’s up there somewhere …

          • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
          • Ender

            and hope you are doing great.

        • Raven

          Where does this bird fly in the list? Surely I wasn’t That late to the party…

    • http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/blog/loren_heal Socrates

      you fail to realize how influencial your periodic, or rather aperiodic, postings have been.

    • streiff

      from #846 (or something very near that)

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
    • hickorystick

      Erick arrived out of the primordial mist at the bow of a boat, with a bloodstained axe. The Lib-serfs at the town walls quaked in dread, and cried to be saved, but they had no God to pray to.

    • aesthete

      nt