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Why can’t Barack Obama Govern?

Short answer:

Because he doesn’t know how.

Hillary was right.

Nor do the majority of people he has named to head the several agencies. I use to to wonder if Obama was some super deep-cover socialist evil genius, or Chauncey Gardiner (Chance the gardener.) In the art of governing, management, crisis or just day-to-day activities, the cards are leaning heavily in Chauncey’s direction right now, only an revised script where Chance’s landlord died, and he brings over the entire asylum with him. Their collective behavior is almost as if they never thought this governing and crisis-management stuff was even part of the job description.

Last week Erick wrote on the front page, concerning the “kick ass” comment to Matt Lauer, that his first instinct is to try to shift blame, and exempt himself from it. In the words of every rail station manager in India, “I am not responsible. I am not responsible.” From Bart Simpson to George Costanza, we know this riff, and instinctively react to it badly.

But there’s more to it than that. With his “kick ass” comment Obama also signaled that he hadn’t a clue as to what was supposed to have been done in the first place. His lashing out was just one of several ways of trying to reach out…well, actually throw out, hoping something would stick, something would resonate and get himself off the hook.

Want proof? Well only today Erick reported that the feds rejected offers of assistance and equipment from the Dutch right after the oil spill. On May 1st, only 9 days after the explosion, I wrote here about the diddling of the Administration in areas where only they had real jurisdiction. I’m not an expert, except maybe at diddling and executive inaction. (But I’m private sector.) Obama was out making speeches and the federal agencies had unleashed nothing in those early days…except an investigation. Even I knew there were all sorts if assets available to the government, I’d seen them at work, and fifty miles out to sea, only they could implement them. IT WAS THEIR JURISDICTION. EXCLUSIVE. Now, Vladimir knows far more than I do as to what those assets were, but no matter, they did nothing. Only a week or so ago, Obama suddenly walked back history and said he was in charge from Day One, and they were in crisis mode from the beginning…looking for the right asses to kick, I suppose. Now today there is news of them rejecting the offer of help from the Dutch. (Damned if they was, and damned if they wasn’t- Moses Sands.) Now he’s demanding that BP pay the salaries of the people he’s just laid off.!!!!

The bottom line and our embedded message.

Only a few days ago Bernie Chumm wrote here, asking what Obama might do when cornered, a wounded animal when cornered, a craven, narcissistic wounded animal when cornered.

Well, this wounding at least is self-inflicted, and the people’s rising disaffection with Obama will be measured in the November election.

Our prediction: If we win big (and we should):

  • The departing Congress will attempt to cut a swath of revenge across the nation in those last 30 days before the Christmas holidays;
  • Obama will unilaterally attempt to seize control of as much of the government as he can, by executive order, and pass it over to the bureaucracy…the same bureaucracy that has only recently proven it can’t find the Gulf of Mexico on a map;
  • By January, Hillary Clinton will resign her position as Secretary of State and announce her intention to run against Barack Obama in 2012, saying “I told you so, I told you so”, amidst cheers of “You go girl.”

I can think of a lot of reasons why this will be a dangerous thing for HIllary to do, but I believe, as we speak, her vanity is getting the best of her as Obama’s true abilities are being revealed. But Hillary will want to remove all other possible Democrat competition early on, staking out for herself the “rightful” owner of that job, as if to say the American people were scammed from the outset.

This in turn will cause Obama to drop even the pretense of governing in order to combat Hillary’s charge, especially since he will no longer have an acquiescent Congress. He will be isolated, and wounded, and surrounded. And he will still be the president of the United States.

COMMENTS

  • aesthete

    but with a caveat: as incompetent as Obama is (who could have predicted that? Oh, I guess we did :) ), most of the problems with the federal government have less to do with “who”, and more to do with the “what”. At some point, the Leviathan takes over and politicians and pliant citizens are just along for the ride: that’s what happened in most of Europe, and it’s what’s starting to happen over here. Most of Obama’s failings are those that he inflicts on the populace as a result of a glimmer of successful leadership (the HCR bill, for example). His belief in larger government as the harbinger of human redemption is what is truly perncious: and the scary thing is that, if the Democrats had found someone more competent, we would be even further down the road to serfdom than we are now.

    With that caveat duly noted, great write-up: Obama truly doesn’t know the first thing about leadership, trade-offs, or management, and it shows whenever we’re exposed to his thought process via rhetoric, his underlings in government, goings-on in Congress, and the policies that he supports.

    • Doc Holliday

      even when self described “conservatives” pull the levers. to be conservative is to defeat Leviathan, anything else is just a cult of personality.

      • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

        I wish I could recommend your post.

        • houstoneagle

          I really want to reco the post.

          You heard it from Vassar first, everybody: lame duck cram through of all sorts of bad policy–and Hillary announcing her resignation as Secretary of State and the formation of her exploratory committee in January.

        • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

          I went back and read your earlier posts. Keep writing. You told me some things I didn’t know…and need to know. It pays to watch, which we can’t always do, so it pays to be reminded to.
          Thanks

          • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

            put away in a safe place, We could easily see gas rationing again. I expect the price of oil to be over $100 soon and stay there.

            I tried to insulate myself with my oil stocks and by hoarding some gold, but a lot of people will not be so fortunate.

            At least it will be blamed mostly on the Democrats, (although they have the main responsibility it is a long time in the making and there is plenty of blame to go around.)

          • acat

            I’ll go talk to the nice folk at Ace (hardware) this weekend.

            Mew

          • http://www.flawedspecies.com buck68

            comparing your thoughts here to what i ‘believe in’…

            I went back and read your earlier posts.
            -agree: to keep learning, keep returning and re-reading; especially, to verify the accuracy of what we use to mesaure all things….

            Keep writing.
            -agree: keep on trying. Trying to put thoughts on paper is not only a continuing learning exercise, but provides a means to compare, and discuss… and hold my self responsible for and accountable to.

            You told me some things I didn

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Hat tip to Hotair:

    From Hotair: “Tim Dickinson takes his shots at the Bush administration, but mainly hammers Obama and his laughable attempts to feign shock over the Deepwater Horizon blowout and Gulf disaster:”

    Like the attacks by Al Qaeda, the disaster in the Gulf was preceded by ample warnings

    • aesthete

      on the narrative that Obama is losing his base is that the media is setting up for a “comeback kid” narrative.

      • acat

        Obama is the obvious choice, but…what about a Clinton?

        Seriously.

        The Media loved Bill as POTUS, and they’re primed to love him as “kingmaker”.

        Mew

  • mriggio

    ITEM: Lack of leadership BP oil disaster, ass-kicking or not.Too dull-witted to pick up phone & call BP CEO.
    ITEM: Economy still tanking; Art Laffer predicts 2011 collapse with Bush tax cut expiration; new hires are all temp census workers.
    ITEM: Foreign policy tanking; hard fought Iranian sanctions pass un-unanimously, lack teeth, are mocked.
    ITEM: Only Dem candidates who run away from Obama winning any elections.
    ITEM: Signature H/C legislation hated by majority of public; sales pitch continues.
    ITEM: Administration-hated Arizona illegal-immigrant statute highly popular with voters, other states to copy.
    QUESTION: Is No-Drama-Obama becoming Bad-News-Barry?

    • http://www.laborunionreport.combrand/brhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

      Laffer is saying 2011…

      More likely, third quarter of 2010.

      The oil spill is going to drive up the unemployment in the Southern states.

      Also, watch for BP to declare bankrupcty and BHO & Co. to nationalize the parts (just like GM and Chrysler).

      • IJB

        Obama trying to nationalize a British company is virtually declaring war on The U.K.

        I’m betting even Berry’s goons ain’t that dumb…

        • cactusjack

          in London. It was created by Winston Churchill as a fuel source for the oil-fueled Royal Navy when he feared Shell (based in Holland) might not deliver on oil supply contracts if World War One broke out. Originally known as Anglo-Persian, BP’s main fields were in Persia but got nationalized in the 1950′s and lost millions prospecting in the Sahara. Came roaring back from that near death economic experience by hitting it big in Alaska. We must understand in Europe, the nations view the big, private oil companies as “their” companies, if not legally, then politically and economically. (France = Total, UK = BP, Netherlands = Shell, Italy = ENI). To the extent that they have something there called the “golden chair,” which is to say in case of a national emergency, HM the Queen’s government can take two seats on the Board, if not forcing some actions then blocking others. And when you’re talking about cratering the entire pension system of the UK, that would be a national emergency. Yes under the circumstances the UK will be very protective of BP, and if Obama does something Third-Worldish with BP, ambassadors could be recalled and worse. (Source of history on BP: The Prize (1991), D. Yergin)

          • cactusjack

            I don’t know if BP (still) has the golden chair but no matter you can be sure, one way or another, HM government is following this all very very closely. The new Prime Minister will be over next week to visit the WH, I think. Guess what one topic on the agenda will be? I should also note the royal families of UK and Netherlands are presumed to be heavily, personally invested in BP and Shell.

          • Achance

            US operations. Most of them were once independent US companies and I’m sure there is some discrete legal existence in the US. It would be a leftwing wet dream to take over what had once been major parts of the hated Standard Oil. They could run the same old number of forcing them into bankruptcy and BP woulld have to start trying to spin off its endangered US operations to save the rest of its Worldwide operations and to protect those British pensions.

            Things might get rocky between the US and GB, but he’s already made it know that he doesn’t much care for GB and his prime benefactor, Soros, tried to destroy GB’s economy. I can se the move of trying to force BP to spin off its US operations and then through the forced banrupcy British Petroleum becomes US Petroleum. Oh, and by the way, BP’s US operations include the lions share of Alaska production.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            called follow the money…stock price manipulation…favored investors make a killing to finance our destruction.

            Putting BP into bankruptcy is simply icing on the cake for a short seller.

          • blooch

            this week to demand that GB negotiate with Argentina over the Falklands. BP was set to do some exploratory drilling there. Obama may be an incompetent jerk, but he couldn’t have picked a better–or worse– time to stick that particular knife in. And the thing is, that Hillary had to do the stabbing.

            I guess we’ll see soon how the One rides the Tiger when he leans on the old-school socialists too hard. Bet he’s gonna wish he was really a Muslim then.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            …Britain would withdraw their Ambassador from Washington and announce the breaking of diplomatic relations with the U.S.

            And remember that they have a few nukes in their arsenal to keep them from being bullied by the U.S. like Honduras was.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    I noted a long time ago here that the Dems, if they were smart, might at some point staunch the bleeding of their Party by using the 25th Amendment to remove their President who they have determined “is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office . . . .” The term “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office” is undefined and the standard for making that determination is undefined.

    Taking this route would enable to the Democrats to say, with a straight face, that they were taking the “high road” by relying upon that sacred document they so cherish, the Constitution itself, to save the nation from Opuppet and deliver the country into the hands of the “able” Joe Biden. No need to charge that Opuppet has done anything impeachable. No need to question his motives. Just his “competency.” “He hasn’t grown into the job!” “He simply can’t handle the stress!” “He’s a good man, but there’s a medical problem that necessitates this move!” Or, as Vassar has noted, he is unable to govern as President simply “because he doesn

    • acat

      A nice, medical reason why he can’t continue in the office. Push him out, Biden becomes POTUS, and names Hillary as Veep.

      Biden, forever linked to Obama (and a bit of a moron) could even step aside in 2012, allowing Hillary to run as semi-incumbent.

      (good luck to the Repubs, in that case)

      The question to all this is twofold – first, can Bill pull enough Dem chestnuts out of the fire in 2010 to make himself kingmaker, and second, can he peel off enough Dems for Congress to create a committee to remove Obama?

      We are living in Interesting Times.

      Mew

      • Scope

        id Bill Clinton could peel away enough D’s to go against the O or the B, you don’t understand the power of the Clintons. Don’t underestimate the power of Bill that just went (falsely) against the powerful unions that just lost alot of cash supporting their guy in AK should be the best indication of the Clinton power.

        • Scope

          Pigment.

          • acat

            That’s a part of it, but it’s a much more nuanced picture.

            Hillary stumbled (badly) out of the gate, acting like it was her due, her pageant to waltz through. Bill may have managed to pull that level of arrogant off, but Hillary hasn’t got Bill’s practice or gifts.

            Obama, meanwhile, was able to capture the youth with his calm, cool, hipster vibe, and a rhythmic oratory that most of ‘em had never heard before. (nevermind anyone who heard MLK’s speeches or southern baptist preachers would remember – similar cadences, at least to my ear – but apparently schools don’t force kids to listen to MLK anymore)

            Obama also never let anyone define him – with help from the news media, naturally – so he wasn’t ever pinned down, everyone could believe what they wanted to of him instead of, as with Clinton, having a very clear understanding of what they were getting, the good and the bad. Brilliant, in its’ way.

            So no, there was far more than pigment to it.

            Mew

    • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

      Major league National Guard action or martial law may be needed. Not sure that even the Clintons want to risk that.

      Beside any standard to declare Obama unfit would catch Joe Biden in its undertow. :)

      Can you say “President Pelosi” ten times without gagging? Can the rest of the Democratic leadership do so?

      Will you get any sleep tonight digesting that one?

      • acat

        and then acts presidential for X months, and does not run for re-election.

        He’ll be the Democrat Gerald Ford.

        Mew

      • mbecker908

        The NG in every inner city. And these folks are not the NG of the ’60s, these folks are actually combat vets. With any luck every major city in the US would have a new huge park in the center of it where only empty buildings stood before. The key here would be – DO NOT rebuild.

    • http://www.laborunionreport.combrand/brhttp://www.laborunionreport.blogspot.com LaborUnionReport

      Hillary (Bill, actually) just burned a major bridge in Arkansas by attacking the unions. The king (or queen) maker is done with all the hard-left constituencies.

    • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

      Republicans aren

  • acat

    a group of people for whom the overall goal is the same – elect Obama – even if they don’t share the same ideas on how to achieve this – is far different from managing any organization larger than a chinese buffet.

    Lots of different major goals, not just differences over how to achieve the primary goal – lots of egoes that he cannot replace, lots of science that he cannot ignore or wish out of existence.

    The Senate is supposed to be about debate and deal-making, and as such is a poor training ground for the Executive branch, but Obama was apparently unable to learn even the rudiments that the Senate could teach – like how to properly offer someone a job they can’t refuse (and won’t talk about), or how to chew out a subordinate, even when they don’t work for you. (it can be done …)

    Obama may be “bright”, whatever the pock that means, but he’s not got the experience, the time-honed instincts of an executive – he has the instincts of an academic, not even a university administrator, an actual professor’s instinct – hold a meeting, try to reach consensus, if possible use the force of ego rather than fact, thus we get “beer summits”.

    This will not end well.

    Mew

  • Scope

    that Billary would challenge him. Yes, on the “I told you so” soundbite. I’ve been saying that for awhile. All the hogwash speculation that no one from the party of a sitting president will pose a challenge has not grasped that we are in some very different times. Hillary is as radical as the O, but, learning from the best, knows much better how to get the message out without giving away the real message. It’s been interesting how so many have been reporting on her lack of success in foreign countries, and, those stories are mounting. Hillary was seen to be “foreign policy” deficient. She will be seen by the D’s as now sufficently experienced as her role as SOS. Bill Clinton has never gotten over the fact that he was denied the role of “first husband.” I wonder if they would bring all the China and Crystal back to the WH?

    The radical left has come too far with control of the WH, the Senate and the House. Obama being seen as a weakling, even by some of the most far radical organizations will lose much popularity, he hasn’t done enough to take over everything in the country. Billary will take advantage of that situation. She will not give up on those gains. She is an Alinskyite. She and Bill will just repakage the message and once again fool the idiots that still believe that BC was a centruist. We will just be taken over with new messaging that will be alot more believable, even though we will go the same path as the O.

    • luciusacius

      Where do Rahmbo and the other Chicago pols go. Clinton has no use for those traitorous little weasels. Their greasy tenticles are all over Congressional Black Caucas and a lot of the Soros Stepford children with money access. Rahmbo is sure to realize that he is a political deadman if the Clintonista surge and force his patron out. The same with Axlerod and Jarrett. After all, someone has to take the fall for real. Think about the “rightous” Clintons prosecuting the bad guys.

      • Scope

        is made up of former Clinton people. I’m sure there would be some casualties if Hillary takes the throne, but the rest are all Democrat place holding for a future Clinton return. The O said himself that if his popularity is low after his first term he would not run again. He also said that he would rather be a good one term pres. than a mediocre two termer. I know the O is a liar but, I think that rather than let go of the reins of Progressive power, he would find a way to open the door for Clinton. The O really doesn’t like the job, he likes the perks but, the day to day stuff, and, things like the oil spill are not his cup of tea. As a former pres., he can still stay in the jet setter crowd, but, he doesn’t have to worry about 3am phone calls. Who knows what kind of deals the O and Hillary made when she agreed to stop her campaign. The Clintons are just as corrupt and as much thugs as the O.

  • louisiana

    He could be caught naked in bed with a goat & a 10-yr. old, & it would just be spun as a 4-H project. There’s no way the D’s dump him– Bro Al , Black Caucus wouldn’t hear of it. As Civil Truth stated, there would be riots & plenty of them. O is merely a figurehead doing the bidding of Soros & others we don’t even know about. The big mistake they made was choosing a person who is driven as much by his narcissism as his ideology. I think the D’s will dump Biden & put Hillary in as VP.

    • IJB

      I think the odds are very good that Obama will at least get a serious primary challenge. It’s possible it’ll be a serious enough challenge for him to pull an LBJ.

      I will say this though – if Obama is renominated, there’s *no* way Joe Biden will be on the ticket next time – they’re going to bury old Joe below the floorboards!

      • cactusjack

        is if the economy double dips into recession, he loses all the independents, and Carter-like goes down 45-55 and under 200 votes in the EC – only easy way out then is to leave after one full term a la LBJ in 1968. Failing that economic scenario, however, I fear this is all much more sinister business as discussed in other threads and posts here in RS this week. Soros and (??), and whoever is behind them (???) have too much invested in the present arrangement & will try to change the whole picture before they change their man. Small war in a dangerous place, currency speculation and crash of a good-size country – we must acknowledge these things are truly within their power to save their guy, if they choose. Not to mention tons of money to throw at any election they choose. Really I am not a conspiracy person, I just know what I see in the face of George Soros in every picture I have ever seen of him – pure hatred for the United States of America. So much damage yet to be done, even with a wounded front man in the WH.

    • Achance

      I’d love to give Soros and his cronies a short tour of its basement.

      • mbecker908

        ‘Course she’d insist that we take off the fancy gray cover before strapped anybody to it and I know she’d insist that we fold the legs into the “up” position, but hey, it’d still work.

        • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

          …to complement the start-up Nazi division she’s heading…

          At least that’s what Jerry Brown thinks:

          http://www.kcbs.com/pages/2567788.php

          • aesthete

          • remnant60
          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            Jerry didn’t exact stir adoration in these folks

          • blooch

            Certainly not the Kennedys.

            Maybe Elvis.

            Viva^a^a^a^a^a, Las Vegas!

  • qixlqatl

    he thinks he was elected to rule, imho.

    • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com Beaglescout

      He does not fix problems. He does not help people deal with problems. He makes problems worse. He EXPLOITS the visuals of the problems after he has made them look even worse.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica

    can you provide the link to the “i wrote here”?

    it’s incomplete/broken/whatever.

    thanks!

    • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

      VB

      • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/ Veronica

        great post, btw.

        There’s a growing sense here at home that Hillary speaks tougher to Iran than Obama does — and she can use that to fit the nationalistic/pro-WOT role.

        And call him weak, because he is.

        Thanks, Vassar!

  • http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C

    She is likely to do just what you said, vassar, but she’ll not be elected.

    Both Clintons have burned a lot of bridges, plus made a lot of stupid mistakes (some I think on purpose with Bill). Hillary is not Bill. IIRC, nobody liked Hillary as the First Lady and I know everybody thinks it’s all because of Obama and his charisma, affirmative action, or whatever it was that pushed him to the front, but Hillary is just not a likable person. Couple that dislike with the stupid mistakes she has made as Sec. of State…

    And victimhood is becoming an outdated mode of getting ahead. She won’t have that going for her in 2012, either. The media might try to prop her up but they won’t be successful. Nobody trusts the media anymore, either. The MSM committed suicide, politically and ethically, and they’re the only ones who don’t know they’re dead yet.

    • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

      ..it could be us (the country) that gets hammered.

      Way too many unseen dynamics for me. But if you plan ahead, you have to have contingencies in your mind at least.

      The worst news is how ugly it will get around here is we lose in Nov. The bad news is how ugly it will get around here if we win.

      • http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C

        looking into what Miz. Hillary is doing and start hammering now.

        The woman is a walking gaffe machine on foreign policy… and domestic policy, too, if you dig deep enough… but she has been relegated by other news to nonentity status.

        I’m not inclined to make it easy for her to slip into Obama’s shoes.

        • Scope

          when Bill and the Blue Dress incident occured. Just as the O still has his worshippers, Bill kept his. Any morals had already been seriously diluted. When the Hill was running, there were many that loved Hillary, remember the PUMA’s, and, many that believed that their beloved Bill would really be running the WH. After all, he was the first black president. The O has been very successful in making the D’s into firm D’s, and the R’s into firm R’s. He has erased any thoughts about reaching across the aisle with anyone.

          I think that the O will be so very unpopular and damaged by 2012 election season that Bill will insure that he gets his third term. What would all the Dems do? vote for R’s? The I’s are leaving the O in droves, but, they would probably go back to the D party if the Clintons are on the ticket, and you really can’t separate Billary.

          As someone in another post said, it is going to get real scarry if we don’t win big in November, and, it is going to get real scarry if we do win big in November. The Clintons will ride in on their white horses to save the USA. Good Lord do I hope you are right that she is unelectable.

        • golfrbob

          Whatever she knows about foreign policy came from from that great Clinton negotiator Madeleine Korbel Albright-remember her ‘trust but don’t verify’ with North Korea. What did Hillary do to try and get sanctions on North Korea when they sunk the South Korean ship? Nothing. But, she and her administration allies jumped immediatedly to condemn Israel on the flotilla islamists. Can you imagine North Korea trembling in their boots over Hillary’s threats!

  • penguin2

    IMHO, any person with average intelligence could do a much better job than Obama, and by this I mean reasonable intelligence and common sense means gathering experts to solve a problem/any problem. The only problems this administration works on are political and PR ones, nothing else. Which brings me to this, these seemingly incompetent/negligent actions are not unintentional….whether it is the economy, HC, or the non-responses to natural disasters; there are motives here not on the surface, IMO.

    No, he could not “fix” the oil spill, but isn’t it the duty of the Federal government to offer all means of support to assist in mitigating the disaster as in protecting the coastlines. I do believe that if these had been blue states involved, they would have been screaming and he would have responded…..

    Anyway, not to get too side-tracked here, it comes back to who is this man in the White House. If he is so warped by his ideology as to allow intentional harm to the welfare of this nation, then he is indeed a puppet of someone/some group. Putting political ideology above all else has destroyed nations before.

    Strangely enough, what we are seeing is what we get. The robotic, inanimate cold and detached human being, is exactly that. Though, as you noted Vassar, the danger of a cornered creature…..

    Will start following the moves of Hillary. I’ve always been a bit surprised at her acquiescence to Obama, so maybe she is just biding her time.

    • Scope

      behind what the O and his puppet masters have in store for this country. Having said that, I am not so sure that the O and his string pullers would be doing anything different with the Deepwater accident than they are doing, even with Democrat Governors in the coastal states.

      Did you hear that our Gov. McDonnell is setting up meetings to plan in case the oil hits our Atlantic beaches or waters?

      • penguin2

        if they were blue states vs red; though those driving the Leftist agenda still have some need for keeping it from deteriorating into a 100% PR disaster, at least until the November elections. So, considering that they still need some semblance of being for the American people, it is even more worrisome, if we believe that.

        I have no doubt that governors, like Gov. Bob McDonnell, have reasonable commonsense to work on solving problems before they happen vs hand-wringing and finger-pointing after. :-)

    • Achance

      That is the ONLY thing that would make them come to heel the way they have. BHO has Bill Clinton “fetching coffee” for him, after all, and HRC gives irrelevant all new meaning. People like them do not go gently, so I think they’ve been offered these roles or a talk with the FBI.

      • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

        …after all there’s a whole lot about Obama’s past life we don’t know publically about. But there are people out there who do, and some of them might be quite happy to fill in the Clintons.

      • Scope

        could very well have something on the O. The O has surrounded himself with many former Clintonistas, and at high levels. They could easily be carrying some high level info back to Billary. I don’t imagine either will completely blow up the Democrat party for the next century.

        • Achance

          BHO would be a footnote and HRC would have been the nominee – and probably the President. No, these people only don’t get what they want if somebody has the raw power to keep them from getting it. Bill and Hill heel to BHO, so there’s a reason.

          No doubt there’s plenty to know about Comrade Obama, but even if the Clintons know some or even all of it, it wasn’t good enough.

          • Scope

            Hill is mostly on the road, and not attending many meetings or goings on at the WH, but, as I said above, she and Bill still have many friends in high places in Wasahington, and in every corner of the globe.

            Occasionally some email, or words said in meetings get leaked, and everyone goes nuts. I can only imagine what all there is that doesn’t get leaked? I bet some eyes would turn to saucers. I am certain there is some alligence to Hill and Bill, and she can get her hands on some real juicy and incriminating stuff.

            Other than Bill’s involvement in the Sestak jobsgate, which has something sinister about it, I haven’t seen the Clintons getting Obama coffee. I recently read somewhere that Bill, seething over Obama taking the job his wife had the right to, said, the O was going to have to kiss his ass (the D’s have something with asses apparently) if the O wanted his help with anything.

            The Clintons will never let the WH go back to a Republican, and set the Progressive agenda back decades if they can stop that. They know the O, by election season, will be in the hole below the basement. He’s getting their rapidly. Bill is widely seen as a centurist, not only among D’s but R’s as well. When he was going down and down, and the R’s took over Congress, he was willing to run back to the middle to stay a viable president, who could still get stuff done. I don’t like it, but, Bill is still very popular among D’s. Hill is definately far left of him, but, many believe that a vote for Hill will get them a two for one, and that Hill will give Bill the pants of the house to wear, just not the orange ones.

            The Clinton’s, particularly Hill, see their dreams of the Socialist utopia going down the drain, and, they will do everything and anything to try to stop that. Hey Achance, suppose the 2 presidential contenders are Palin and Hillary- Have you bought property in Mexico yet? or in some far away land?

          • Scope

            at the end. Not trying to pick fights, just pictured your head exploding with that thought.

          • Achance

            There is an immutable law if you work in government; you never know who you might be working for.

          • aesthete

            sound that much more attractive.

          • Scope

            what chance do you think you might have in that goal? If Palin runs, and wins, should we at Redstate be prompting/screaming for you as her COS? I don’t have a clue of what will happen in 2012, I’m just askin.

          • Achance

            First, I don’t think she’s ever going to run for office again. She’s famous and more importantly, rich now and doesn’t have to do anything that can really be measured. All she has to do now is talk from time to time. It’ll wear out over time, but before it does, she and hers will be set for life; that’s her real interest.

            As to the rest, she has yet to show me that she will put up with anyone other than Todd disagreeing with her or telling her anything she doesn’t want to hear.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            …that the cistern starts leaking (no apology for the mixed metaphors).

            Evidently lyhe Clintons didn’t have enough goods on Obama to be sure they could prevail in 2008 in the face of their inept campaign strategy, but Obama must have had some reason to follow the maxim “keep your friends* close and your enemies closer”. And now the balance of fear may be starting to shift, and will shift more rapidly if Obama continues his downward slide.
            ______________________
            *unless they’re Western democracies whom your predecessors allied with

    • Scope

      don’t still retain a massive amount of power, throughout the world, are misjudging them. Hillary has been traveling the world, as SOS, and can be talking to world leaders about her plans, and looking for their backing. No secret the O has lost much of the world citizen popularity he came into office with. With the bad reports on Hillary’s success with world leaders, on world issues, it can be spun easily as a rejection of the Obamas plans and agendas, and she was just the messenger. Imagine her campaign speeches- I have traveled the world, and I have spoken with many world leaders, and, they have rejected President Obamas policies. Bill will write her speeches for her. ACORN just wants to make sure there is a Socialist in the WH, they can switch to the first black presidents wife easily.

      Kirsten Powers, who I loath, is and always was a very big Hillary supporter. She has been much more open to critizing Obama lately. Carville is/was a big Clinton supporter, he has been recently critical of Obama. There are others, many of them, forget about Juan Williams. The shift, away from Obama has already slowly begun in the MSM. Didn’t Chrissie (leg tingles) Matthews question Obamas competence?

      Speaking of caged animals, yes the O and the Progressives in Congress will most asureadly put their fingers on the red button, and push down hard, before they get dragged out screaming and kicking in January. This is not going to be pleasant or pretty.

      • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

        inside the old liberal establishment…than I am. I like your train of thought here. Turn it into a couple thousand words. I’d love to read it.
        VB

        • remnant60
        • Scope

          I have not been here long enough, nor am I as smart as you, to be able to counter comments such as the one by Achance above or below. I have learned the hard way to back off, and keep my good standing as one that occasionally comments. I prefer to stay in the background. I promise that my go along to get along only is applicable to Redstate.

          • Scope

            that I have picked up on, and have tried to act accordingly.

          • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

            As I told Art, time will tell.

      • Achance

        The whole left-liberal-squish establishment has far, far, far too much invested in the idea of the cool black dude as the fundamental transformation of white, Christian, capitalist, liberty-loving America into a true member of the “international community,” another way of saying the international socialist world order.

        They CANNOT kick him to the curb and if it costs them the Presidency, the Congress, the Courts, whatever, they can blame that on the ignorant masses not having their consciousness sufficiently raised and having been misled by the VRWC.

        • remnant60

          Than he is to them…and, IMHO he’s a match-stick man created by someone else (who, I don’t know) that the Dem’s have hitched a horse to, and thought it would pull them up a hill with the massive help of the MSM.
          BHO doesn’t answer to the Dems…he just placates them trying to keep one step ahead of his own internal crisis…

          • Scope

            The D’s are hitched to the O, but, in an atmosphere of negativity to the O, they will hitch their wagons to who ever they think will get the job done, finally and long standing. The O is not succeeding with that perception, and messaging very well. They will replace him before they give up the gains they have made. I don’t know of any other D candidate that could do that as well as the Clintons. Who else has the past experience and the credibility that the Clintons have, among D’s? They ain’t in the mood for succession from the D party. It’s gonna be ugly.

        • Scope

          the D’s will surely kick Obama to the curb if he is not seen to be performing well, by the Progressives standards. The far left already have their thongs flossing their private parts, Code Pink, the Islamists, and those that support Isreal, and the Gays. The O cant’s seem to please anyone, any country, any parts of his base, without PO another one. He is an epic failure on all fronts. He has thrown so many under the bus, there is not any more room under there. The hard core, Bertha Lewis type blacks will stay with him for sure, he is their historic messiah, as he promised that he was the Won they were waiting for. The Blacks are not pleased, especially in this economic time, or historically for that matter, because they believe that the Hispanics are taking their jobs, welfare, and any other benefits they have earned.

          I personally do not believe for one nanosecond that the Clintons will let go of, at least Hillary’s far left radical positions, and the fact that any Republican will turn their gains on it’s head. If the O can’t get it done, the Clintons will step in to help get it done. Messaging is everything, even if your are dishonest with that messaging. Bill is a master at that.

        • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

          …although this would be way, way premature. The Obamaistas always had a one-party system in mind, and while it might still carry the name Democrat it was never going to be this Democrat Party. They’ve both been sharpening their knives for awhile, but first, how to dispose of us. Well that’s all fallen off the track, outside the plan. I thought Obama was finessing the Dems into near self-destruction, with very unpopular laws that passed almost all power over to the executive, and the citizens sharpening their knives instead, Now Obama is stumbling bad, without their help, and they have to run a gauntlet 2 years in advance of his running of the spear. If they get whomped for what he suckered them into doing, (That’s how the majority of them will look at it, craven cowards that they are) they’ll turn on him.

          This is my guess at least. Time will tell.

          • Achance

            into their worldview to blame him for anything, and even if they might privately blame him and his cabal, they won’t say it out loud. At most they’ll kick Rahm Emanuel or Axelrod and blame them for Administration failures. These are people who can’t hold a Black murderer responisble for his crimes, many of them glorify Black cop-killers, so they’re not going to hold Comrade Obama responisble for anything even if he’s standing over the bleeding body with the smoking gun, they’ll just invoke the SODDI defense: Some Other Dude Did It.

            They might bring in HRC or someone as VP to act as a Regent, but BHO will remain the titular head. And if they didn’t have something on Bill, Hill, or both, HRC would have been the nominee and probably the President. They’re not the kind of people to do another’s bidding unless they’re forced to and the job offer to Sestak was the equivalent of toting the coffee for BHO.

          • acat

            Not sure if you remember, Achance, but Comrade Obama has already had his “blackness” questioned during the campaign. We’ve seen Dems split hairs extremely finely before.

            Were a Republican to question his blackness, that’d be a problem, but let (for instance) Rep. Conyers or Rep. Waters make some points about how “his experience is not authentic enough”, and there’s plenty of room to fit a wedge in.

            Mew

          • Achance

            They might whisper to him that he ought to be doing more for the brothers and sisters, but they ain’t going to say anything the honkies might hear and seize on.

          • acat

            Whisper campaign.

            Word of mouth.

            That’s all that’s necessary. They don’t have to say it to the press, just to their inner circle(s) – then they vote for whatever ‘blue ribbon smokescreen’ is needed to ‘evaluate Obama’s fitness for office’ …

            And in one swell foop, they get all the Dems who are more centrist by nature or by fears, they get ‘enough’ Repubs to make it bipartisan, and they get the ‘birthers’ by not specifying why Obama may be unfit.

            No reason needs to be given before the vote, and “he wasn’t really one of us” can be whispered afterward to justify a vote.

            Mew

          • Achance

            is really just a smokescreen to make him look more moderate than he is. They know what he’s doing and they’re fine with his moving at a pace that keeps the heathen masses sullen but not mutinous. Most of the discussion here about Comrade Obama’s true nature would send most of America screaming from the room; it would be incomprehensible to them that he is what most here are certain that he is. Most of the res publica is simply pig ignorant; they don’t really follow the news or politics and vote on vague feelings about “how things are.” The one thing I agree with the leftist elitists about is that the Country really no longer has an electorate educated and informed enough for self-governance. ‘Course we do disagree about the causes and the remedy.

          • acat

            and most of them cannot say that they’re better off today than that fateful November day in 2008.

            While some of the lefty groups may be trying to screen for Obama, some of the others see the writing on the wall – that their agendas are not gonna happen after the 2011 swearing-in of the new Congress – and are pissed that Obama hasn’t been moving even faster…

            Remember that the Left is as divided as the Right – and if it comes down to a Dem in a moderate district keeping his seat, he will throw his own mother under the bus. Obama doesn’t even come close, especially if Team Clinton can generate enough confusion.

            Mew.

  • Scope

    if Clinton thinks that Palin will run in 2012, she will never let that go unchallenged.

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    A lot of our current pols are great at the former. BHO truly sucks at the latter.

  • Flagstaff

    even though I came late to the party. I should probably just quit writing diaries here and restrict myself to a standard, “Attaboy, Vassar, I completely agree!” response to everything you write.

    No such luck is in the offing, however. Vanity precludes me from trying to get my two cents’ worth in first on some days.

    There are some big themes in the Obama presidency. His apparent incompetency. The press’s slobbering love affair with him. The question as to whether anybody who could get elected President could actually be that mind-numbingly wrong about everything else–surely, he must be feigning incompetence while secretly following the Master Plan to destroy the US by destroying its economy and its station in the world.

    You handled the first one admirably.

    • aesthete

      Offtopic: Good on you for liking Bones! Fun show, that one.

      • Flagstaff

        from one of the shows. Glad you noticed. I thought it applied very well to blogging in general.

        Of course, I’d never do anything like that myself. I try to keep my name-calling accurate.

    • qixlqatl

      Everything I want to say here has all ready been said by someone else, much more effectively than I ever could.n I just wish I had the time to read it all!!

      • Flagstaff

        I think we all feel that way, often.

  • Flagstaff

    to the point of becoming irrationally critical of Hillary during the primaries in 2008. To listen to him describe Hillary and Bill in those days, one might have thought he was a Republican left over from 1996.

    Does anybody know if he’s still on the Obama bandwagon, defending the indefensible?

    (I hesitated to write this. It gives Little Eddie’s name more exposure in one comment than he gets in a week on the air.)

  • http://www.dcworksforus.com Kenny Solomon

    ………or that he doesn’t know how (I’m 99.9999% sure he doesn’t).

    ………or that he doesn’t want to (I’m 99.9999% sure he doesn’t).

    ………or that he should (I’m 99.9999% sure he believes he shouldn’t).

    It’s that he won’t.

    He’s ‘ruling’, or at least trying to.

    There’s a reason I’ve nicknamed him ‘Our Dictator In Training Pants’.

    “…… to fundamentally transform The United States.”

    He said the words himself.

    Very few listened with open ears.

    People heard what they wanted to hear.

  • http://www.flawedspecies.com buck68

    …when Barack Obama has been answering that question since he began organizing?

    …does not each person follow his ‘beliefs’ whenever he feels?

    If i believed in “my ends justify my means” …

    what would an oath, a program, a pledge, a rule, a law…governing …be to me?

    wouldn’t they are ‘be just words’ …meaning whatever i wanted them to mean, whenever?

    Perhaps any person applying ‘common sense’ should be asking HIMSELF why he “can’t” understand what Barack has been telling whomever will listen… out of his own mouth …for decades. And why ‘single out’ Barack? Does not each person…reveal themselves by what comes out of their mouth, and what they do?

    • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

      a completely convoluted rhetorical reply. I suppose it would be a bit much to ask “Why can’t you understand?”

      • http://www.flawedspecies.com buck68

        …an inclusive answer to your question, in the rhetorical style you chose to ask it.

        you provided…

        a “complete” avoidance… and a loaded question.

        Thus, you provided two popular examples of “why we can’t”.

        • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

          That’s a rule..although I did sort of answer it..as a postulate. Is this supposed to be an issue of proper grammar and English usage, or as we so often prefer, kicking ass?

          • janis

            The answer should prove interesting, if straightforward enough to be readable.

          • remnant60

            he’s kicking @ss…too bad this thread has “devo’ed”…

          • http://www.flawedspecies.com buck68

            but before we approach the what “is supposed to be”, how about trying to describe… WIGO [what is going on]? Using your 3 terms, human ‘communication’ includes issues of:

            1-rules. What are they, based on what, who defines them, why follow them, and who enforces/arbitrates rule disputes how.

            2-’proper’ grammar and usage. The popular “whatever” approach to language is a cute ‘reducio ad absurdum’ term for that far end of the spectrum of ‘communication’ … the other far end of which is ‘communicating’. Learning, discussing, problem-solving…these constructive human interaction basics rely on communicating.

            3.OTOH, forms of ‘kicking the other guy’ appeal more to the natural, animal parts we have been “endowed” with. Blaming is perhaps a less physical subset of ‘kicking’, but just as effective in DIE-gressing or DIS-tracting from communicating about the issue at hand for some useful group purpose.

            Hypothesis: human ‘communication’ depends on the Divine moral, ‘honesty’. If this ‘honesty’ becomes some code word for what a human imposes or says defines ‘honest’ [like...say... 'my ends justify my means']; then, inasmuch as all humans are imperfect… it’s ‘my word v your word’ …and any word becomes defined by ‘whatever i feel is right’. In any group of fine folks with that primal fine feeling about their self… we have sociologically described the linguistic atribute in ye olde ‘survival of the fittest’ game. Put more simply, ‘the best deceiver [c/f 'communicator'] …wins.’

            Vassar Bushmills [and others], info question: are you familiar with Bloom’s Taxonomy; Johari Window; Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs, Situational Leadership Model?

          • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

            I feel the same way about Plato, I think I do understand where you’re coming from though, so thanks. You very well may be a genuine White House cadre wondering why we can’t understand why you don’t understand what a miserable job you’re doing up there. Taxonomy went out the window 50 days ago.

            You may not know it but between us (your interlocutors below) we have twice the on-the-ground, in-the-field, up-to-the-ass-in-alligators years of executive, top level government and billion dollar corporate experience than you have been alive, assuming you were born in ’68.

            I can see why you guys are so slow, though…you’ve only gone through your first row of the first shelf of textbooks on problem solving. At Wharton you’d get a B, but in real life you fail…which takes me back to my very first sentence. Because you don’t know how.

            And by the way, that list of models and theories, they are discussed here on RedState routinely by student and practitioners alike, only you’re the first to bother with the citation rather than the fat. Can you imagine how tedious our comments would be if every time we said “love”, we’d have to footnote John 3:16, or “think” we’d have to insert “Descartes (1644), Part 1, article 7″. Sounds kinda stupid, huh?

          • janis

            so well-educated that he doesn’t have to do another thing for the rest of his life other than be……. well-educated.

            Well, slap me hard and call me “Sally”, here I thought that life was all about what you achieved, not what titles you could remember on a blog somewhere. Shows you what a clueless dunce I am , doesn’t it?

          • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

            Von Clausewitz defended war scholastically, so maybe we can defend failed leadership, management, etc scholastically as well. Put a little shine on ‘not knowing nuthin’.

            They immediately turn the issue into them. Not Obama, not Management, But them. Nobody likes a snotty snob…who don’t know nothing. That’s why Hodge took pity on me. Remember?

            So, also kinda sad…where would you even start? Pascal said there are those who are lost, seeking to be found and those who are lost who don’t know they’re lost. The latter he said are indeed lost. Even ol’ Blaise didn’t have an answer.
            Too bad. Hope he meets his Hodge some day.

            If not, ‘screw ‘erm.
            Cheers my friend.

          • janis

            hope that Hodge has an endless supply of patience. And a gag.

          • http://www.flawedspecies.com buck68

            ‘only to the extent they agree with me’ is rationally an inclusive application of …imperfection in substance, and bias in perception. IOW, it’s ‘only natural’ …and ‘everybody does it’. ;-{)}

            the reason i asked about those models is that they are relational mechanisms, as compared to an ideology or passion, and thus a means to discuss human relationships using an inclusive, defined mechanism, rather than a person’s ‘agenda’.

            “Stupid footnotes”…is the author’s asserted conclusion…a personification of the term ‘footnotes’. About as useful in learning and discussing, as other forms of projection or ‘whatever’. The priniciple of ‘definition’ in language…remains essential in ‘communication’ regardless of who feels how about it. This just illustrates that ‘reason’ is an inalienable right…a gfit we are all endowed with … along with the ‘liberty’ to use it… for good or ill. It is a Good thing that no human ‘owns’ reason…AND any person can choose to use it.

            I’m trying to consider your question in your topic: “why can’t Obama govern”. The first thing i know i should do [regardless of what degree and how accurately i follow through] is to consider the limitations of the perceiver… me. The basic relationship is simple: “if the light that is in [me] is darkness, how great the darkness”?

            and in this group here, given these personal professions of who ‘can’t’ and what’s ‘stupid’ … i’m listening to look for means to find common ground. We’re expressing a lot of ‘pluribus’ ; however, ‘the idea’ is e pluribus unum.

            as for who is ‘educated’, where or how…and what ‘offense’ any of us takes to reason or education …don’t those behaviors illustrate the same ol’ universal human barriers to effective discussion – fear, anger, prejudice, inertia?

        • Achance

          I don’t think most here are as impressed with you as you seem to be of yourself.

          • http://www.flawedspecies.com buck68

            “impressions” … seems reasonable to start by asking him.

            OTOH, starting my learning by concluding something about someone… rationally reveals my inentions as …something less than learning based on something less than communicating.

            Agree [after reviewing the 6 definitions of 'philosophy' at dictionary.com] that each ego’s natural, default position is one of ‘king’.

            Since we all start out as ego-kings…yet know we are all imperfect… ‘crownings’ by any human being of himself or any other, would be philosophically an excercise in self-deception.

            …but..our individual, group, or collective ‘common sense’ doesn’t seem to ‘reduce’ the continuing blizzards of crownings going on…does it? ;-{)}

          • Achance

            buc

          • mriggio
        • Scope

          I just looked at his website, and, if he isn’t living in the land of Oz, and either mom’s basement, or a tent in the rural areas of the woods, I’d be shocked. Probably the only humans he can communicate with are the Neanderthals, or Kuchinich’s (sp) aliens.

          I really wouldn’t put alot of time into this crazed kook. He apparently is too far away from the voting booths to try to dissuade.

          • remnant60

            so I didn’t have to…

          • remnant60

            Narcotic Logic is fun to play with sometimes, but the one using it always turns out to be a snake…and most of us know the old Indian tale of how bestowing compassion on snakes ends up.

          • janis

            Would that I had been so wise as you. :-) Curiosity got the better of me and I went there, too. There was actually a couple of lines there that were very well-written, intelligent and accurate.

            It was when old Buck quoted some lyrics from Gordon Lightfoot’s “The Wreck of the Edmund Fizgerald”.

          • Scope

            I only read some of the site. What was written that was well-written, intelligent and accurate?

          • remnant60
          • janis

            The rest of his site is the same as his comments here– disjointed, sophomoric, pompous drivel .

            I said “accurate” because the song was about a real ship that sunk.

          • Scope

            well written and intelligent part of your post, that did appear that you were ready to give him blanket credit. Where does that come from? Simply from a song’s lyrics?

          • Scope

            n/t

          • janis

            Nothing more mysterious than that. Here, let me make it as plain as I can:

            I was implying that the only intelligent, well-written and accurate statements on this guy’s website were found in the lyrics of Gordon Lightfoot. Not in buck68′s rantings, but in a song. The song was well-written, accurate and intelligent especially in contrast to buck68. buck68 quoted Gordon Lightfoot. Gordon Lightfoot’s writing was good, buck68′s was not.

            I vow not to be so cryptic ever again.

          • remnant60

            Sorry you all are having misconsrtusions (spelling error intentional)
            as to what Janis was saying, but sniping at friends (IMHO) unless it’s called for is not helpful in the long run, and could make friends into allies…there is a difference

          • http://www.flawedspecies.com buck68

            …but the posts in this thread as in most every output across America…

            illustrate an unwillingness to address, let alone discuss the significance of

            e pluribus unum.

            So, applying the saying “united we stand, divided we fall” …

            we illustrate here, individually; and, in continuing blizzards of outputs from this “nation of cowards” [re AG Eric Holder's unchallenged imposed definition, Mar 2009] …

            zero unum and Villages upon Villages of ‘Celebrating DIE-versity’.

            Paraphrasing our American situation using Lincoln: “now we are met on a battlefield of that war”. That age-old war – that spiritual war – between evil, and …good. Are you breathing? Then, you are part of that spiritual war: individually, in any group you join or claim, in all things you feel, say, think, do… for life.

            Lincoln described the Civil War as “testing…whether that Nation so conceived, so dedicated…shall long endure”.

            Here we illustrate unwillingness to ‘conceive’ of addressing our common, continuing test… let alone ‘dedicate’ our selves as our Founders did and whosoever ‘goes for us’ do.

            yet we ‘find the time’ …to blame, to slur, to digress…all kinds of, as remnant60 accurately describes it, “going all over the place” according to however each kinged ego feels at the moment…. IOW ‘doing what comes naturally’.

          • janis

            You alone are blameless and come seeking to bring us the truth. We have been waiting for you to show up and heal us of our errant and godless behavior.

            Please do write lots more comments, but include the code to decipher them next time. I’m sure they must make more sense than they do on first reading after all.

          • http://www.flawedspecies.com buck68

            “You alone are blameless and come seeking to bring us the truth. We have been waiting for you to show up and heal us of our errant and godless behavior.”

            “We” may mean “you alone” to you, Janis. However, when i use the word ‘we’, i mean it literally, in the dictionary definition. As for your second sentence… is that not ever self-crowned King’s…Divine wish? ;-{)}

            “Please do write lots more comments, but include the code to decipher them next time. I

          • janis

            Let us just agree to part ways at this point. You may mean well, although I doubt it, but your writing style is so “I’m on an eternal acid trip” that it makes little to no sense for someone who is not on that trip with you.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      Yeah, wow, you really are a freak.

  • renny

    now major cause of housing meltdown, took Soc. Sec. out of its “lockbox”–both in 1968, and embedded us in Vietnam.

    One term can do enormous and sometimes irreparable damage.

    Stop krao and trade. Oil will be $200 a barrel, and people will be going out in rowboats trying to skim off the Atlantic when the Gulf oil leak gets into the Gulf Stream and floats by New England.

    • jcincy

      I thought Fannie Mae was started was started during the Great Depression while FDR was president?

      • mbecker908
  • remnant60

    This thread has gone all over the place…dragging up pieces and bits. Sorta like squatting down in front of a stream in Colorado with a dish in your hand trying to get some shiny pebbles to stay in the dish as you swirl it around…
    There’s gold in them hills I tell ya!
    But, a list you made that wasn’t much addressed in this thread is:

    “1 The departing Congress will attempt to cut a swath of revenge across the nation in those last 30 days before the Christmas holidays;”
    That’s still assuming our side wins…and yes we should but…
    This is WAR, and not declared or even spoken of on our side…but that’s how the other side views it. It’s a reality just the same…thank you for pointing it out.

    “2 Obama will unilaterally attempt to seize control of as much of the government as he can, by executive order, and pass it over to the bureaucracy

  • http://www.800cart.com Ron Robinson

    … so you assembled that argument and analysis so masterfully, that I wonder if you think Obama might go a little further by early fall 2012… and try to cancel the elections.

    All he needs is 2 big city mayors and 1 secretary of state (not Hill) to go along with him, and any result in the elections that happen anyway lose most authority.

    An Aug or Sep attack (of any of about 8 types I can think of, including an attack on Israel even) would tempt him sorely and potential attackers already know this…. even China wanting to redeem an ‘unreasonable’ sum of US Treas securities could do it.

    • http://www.flawedspecies.com buck68

      visited your PROCINCT site and bio.

      “…consider the problem … from the perspective of the Precinct Captain”. ;-{)}

      request contact.

  • Scope

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/04/barack-obama-hillary-clinton-sarah-palin.html

    This is from the lefty LA Times, so if you’ve just eaten, be prepared to be reintroduced to that food you just swallowed. Consider this was a CNN poll, as they still show Obama at 57% approval, while Rassmussen had him somewhere around 44-45%. I guess that means ole Hillary is even more favored than the O than their polls show.

    Please read the comments. When I checked them, the first one from “George” was not exactly very kind to our EE. They are hilarious.

    • Flagstaff

      In 1980, after Jimmy Carter (2nd worst president of all time) embarrassed the country with Desert One, fumbled his way through four years of a recession where we had gas lines, 20% interest rates, and the Soviet Union laughing at us, Ronald Reagan inherited a disaster. Reagan focused on getting people back to work and getting our nation’s reputation rehabilitated. What he did not do was spend our children’s future on a trillion-dollar health care give-away. And Reagan did not spend half of his day apologizing to the world, and bowing and scraping to foreign leaders.

      –ThatAnnoyingTruthGuy

      I don’t recall Reagan ever saying, “I’m not to blame because I inherited this ____.” He just did his thing.

      And Meg Whitman and the next President should remember that Reagan didn’t turn things around by nibbling at the edges. He did things that the experts said he couldn’t do, which is just another way of saying that he didn’t follow commonly accepted knowledge when formulating policies.

      I have long contended that Carter made those gas lines longer, and made them stick around longer, with the advice that we should always fill up when we got down to a half tank. The result was that the average car in America had 3/4 of a tank in it at any given moment. Before that advice, those cars averaged 1/2 tank of gas. That was about 5 gallons of gas being carried around in every car, times the number of cars on the road at the time, instead of it being still at the gas station, available for somebody who actually needed gas. The shortages were artificially created by a sort of governmentally-encouraged hoarding.

      • gekster
        • Flagstaff

          At worst, surrogates for both Republicans might have pointed out the facts that certain actions were or were not taken. But Reagan didn’t have to say much because it was obvious that Carter had mucked every opportunity.

          And Clinton was open to criticism for failing to say “Fire” with Osama in our sights, but surrogates spoke to that, not Bush himself.