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Sean Parnell Pushes Changes to Alaska’s Controversial Energy Tax

Governor Sean Parnell has learned the lesson succinctly stated by my governor, Bobby Jindal: When you want less of an activity, tax it. When you want more of the activity, reduce taxes on it.

In this instance, the tax in question is “Alaska’s Clear and Equitable Share”, or ACES. It has been mischaracterized as a Windfall Profits Tax, but the effect is much the same. Technically, it is a severance tax, which is a common form of taxation in the producing states, usually applied as a flat percentage of the value of oil produced. ACES, though, throws in a few unique wrinkles: it is a tax on the producer’s net profit on a barrel of oil (profit being determined at the field level, and based on the cost to find and develop reserves in that particular field). In addition, the tax rate escalates with the market price of a barrel of oil, further leveraging Alaska’s share of revenues should oil prices soar.

These taxes are in addition to the state’s royalty take as mineral owner of many of the leases. More background here.

Alaska Governor Pushes Changes to State Energy Tax – ABC News

Gov. Sean Parnell said Thursday that he wants to give oil and gas companies greater incentives to do business in the state, a plan he says will boost production and create potentially hundreds of new jobs for Alaskans.

The plan comes amid forecasts of slumping oil production on Alaska’s North Slope and concerns by some Republican lawmakers that a state tax on oil and gas production — passed two years ago at the urging of then-Gov. Sarah Palin — is doing more harm than good and hindering new development.

A report released Thursday by the state Department of Revenue did not attribute industry woes to the tax; in fact, it found the tax was performing as expected. However, it did recommend ways the system could be improved to spur additional development, including expanding tax credits for drilling and well work costs.

Parnell said the recommendations strike a balance between protecting Alaska’s interests and declaring the state open for business. While the state currently has billions of dollars in budget reserves, Parnell said its economy is struggling and he’s trying to create more jobs and opportunities. The estimated hundreds of millions of dollars in additional tax credits are a small price to pay, he said, for a state that runs on oil and gas revenue. [emphasis added]

COMMENTS

  • bobojake
  • http://www.itsmyblog.com uttles

    I’m so glad we live in a country where the government controls our activities. Land of the free my ass.

  • aesthete

    My understanding is that ACES raised the severance tax rate to 25% (from its 22.5% base), and that it added a surcharge underwhich the tax rate goes up by .2% for every dollar/barrel over $50.

    To compare, the good folks over at the Tax Foundation summary of Jimmy Carter’s windfall profits tax signed into law during the early 80′s is as follows: “…President Carter signed into law the Crude Oil Windfall Profits Tax Act, which imposed a 70% excise tax on the amount of an oil sale price exceeding $12.81 per barrel ($36.14 in 2007 dollars).”

    If we would define a profits tax as a production (or supply-side) tax imposed on businesses triggered by a certain price level, the .2% surcharge imposed by ACES seems to qualify as one. It is, as you say, technically a severance tax, but by the same token, Jimmy Carter’s tax was technically an excise tax. I say all of that, to ask this: why would you say that defining ACES as a windfall profits tax is a mischaracterization?

  • Achance

    Actually, a couple of malcontents from the Murkowski Administration were behind it, one of them a Democrat holdover who’d been associated with TransCanada of gasline infamy, another whose talents just weren’t adequately recognized until St. Sarah came along.

    The real motivation behind ACES was that it was something other than PPT so Sarah could be the Un-Republican.

    • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

      made her closer to McCain, Romney, Hukster, etc…. with “going along” with Liberals…. But I have always given HI/AK great leeway in having exceptions (AK/HI exceptions – AK/HI get exceptions (as non-contiguous States) there locations, time as States, uniqueness of their economies because of location, etc… makes a difference IMO) to what I would otherwise accept out of Leaders.

      I do get “upset” over the Cult Of Personality some seem to be caught up in rather than focusing on Messages rather than hung-up on one particular Messenger. Makes some as bad as ObamaZombies. There is NOT ONE that is the heir to ’12 at this point (far too much time), leads to people sitting out elections costing us opportunities at the very least when people hang up on some one sole outlet for their Hopes/desires, and none of them a Savior — our politicians shouldn’t …… well…. never mind….. it ain’t worth going over again…. we know where it leads.

  • Vladimir

    The tax effectively makes AK a partner in a property’s net profit. The effect is to take away the upside on properties with a low cost basis, or in times of high prices. The WPT considered only the price of oil, regardless of profitability.

    It’s also worth noting that since it’s a state tax, it’s federally deductible, so it reduces the companies’ federal tax bills.

    The Seattle Times article I linked to says that AK’s take from a $120 barrel at Prudhoe Bay would be $49. The same article quotes a ConocoPhillips source as saying that, all in, AK ends up with 75 percent of the value of a barrel produced on state lands.

    With the caveat that that may be true at $120 (today closer to $75), and it was in the Seattle Times, that’s remarkable.

    • aesthete

      I suppose that it does have enough differences to be distinguishable from a WPT.

  • beanerecmo

    That’s the good thing about state politics; it is easier to end state government programs than it is to end federal government programs. Not only is it easier, but federal programs don’t end; they are perpetuated because there are too many stakeholders that refuse to do the right thing. But, then again, the stakeholders are politicians, and there are fewer (not less ferocious) at the state level with which to contend.

  • swamphermit

    now i can come here for ABC News reports…

    • Vladimir
  • jenniferjmilleresq

    It added competitive bidding requirements for oil leases on Alaska’s state land and leveled the playing field for small businesses, as well as opened the bidding process to the light of day and added strong audit and information-sharing provisions. BP and Conoco now compete with small independent oil companies for new projects . ACES provides incentives to entrepreneurs to explore. It includes tax credits for future work and restricted capital expense deductions to scheduled maintenance, ACES made it less profitable for BP and Conoco to sit on many of their old leases and refusing to move forward in exploration.

    For a brief history, the old PPT (Petroleum Profits Tax) generated only about $800 million a year for the landowners (Alaska citizens). Half adozen lawmakers involved in its passage were arrested and indicted.

    ACES changed things not only for BP and Conoco and other large companies, but it also for small business ventures in Alaska.

    The land is owned by the citizens of Alaska and just like an individual who owns oil and mineral rights on his own land, the citizens of Alaska can negotiate contracts for what they own. Terms of contracts are altered between parties as adjustments need to be made. ACES pays Alaskan citizens a much higher proportion of the tax than any contract.

    • http://www.itsmyblog.com uttles

      It’s socialized oil.

      “the land is owned by the citizens of Alaska”

      which citizens? oh, all of them… how about that….

      Sounds like socialism to me.

      • Finrod

        I’m no Art Chance, but I do know that the state of Alaska owns all the oil and mineral rights in the state. That’s just the way it was set up there, and if you don’t like it, take it up with the people that wrote the state’s Constitution 50 years ago or so.

      • jenniferjmilleresq

        That the federal government purchased Alaska from Russia for $7 million and was eager for homesteaders to come settle it….unbelievable sacrifice with a share of the vast natural resources there. Later when Alaska became a state, the federal government transferred those rights to the state and continues to sell to individuals, as does the state. Under your assumption that all government ownership of land is socialistic, I guess that transfer back in the 1800′s (Seward’s “Folly”) must have been socialistic (since the federal taxpayers owned it),

        • http://www.itsmyblog.com uttles

          I’m fully aware. I’m also aware that the way the government homesteading laws worked didn’t make any sense for Alaska and so not many individuals actually ended up with any land.

          Government ownership of property is socialism. I don’t care who does it. The correct thing for the government to do would have been to apply Jeffersonian homesteading theory to the Oil companies when they went exploring for oil. If they found oil and stayed and setup shop, they would own the land, not the people of Alaska. The people of Alaska didn’t do jack squat and they shouldn’t get any money from the oil companies.

    • mbecker908

      ACES was/is about as far from a “conservative” solution as you can get. Parnell, by saying nice things about it, is simply covering his tusche in an election year for his earlier support of a bad idea.

      I’m guessing the finished product will look NOTHING like ACES and probably a whole lot more like the original PPT with state money tossed in to help develop the pipeline extension.

      Oh, and so much for the “old leases” argument.

      Bottom line is that you’re partially right: ACES changed things… ACES made things demonstrably worse and it took less than six months from Palin’s resignation to figure that one out.

      I wonder if the ghost pipeline is next…

  • jenniferjmilleresq

    I meant to add that PPT and the older legislation produced contracts negotiated between the state and BP/Conoco, etc. that had a much lower rate of return for Alaskans.

    • mbecker908

      The folks who actually do the drilling – BP, etal – are the ones who put up the capital to actually produce and deliver the oil. Lower their rate of return and you not only remove their incentive to explore for new oil, you remove their ability to do it.

      If it was “your back yard”, and I was the producer and you removed my incentive to produce, I’d tell you to go buy a post hole digger with really long handles and have nice day.

      • jenniferjmilleresq

        That’s why Gov. Parnell is reevaluating specific aspects of ACES to potentially adjust the balances and increase incentives for further exploration. You have to remember that there are more parties at the table than just the large oil companies and the State. There are smaller more eager independent firms as well as private land owners. Reevaluation of contractual relationships is normal. This is not your typical government reg/tax scenario and analogies just don’t play out.

        • mbecker908

          pursue marginal exploration. I don’t know the numbers, I’m sure there are folks here that do, but I’d be shocked if “private land owners” accounted for much over **none** of Alaska’s untapped reserves. The Federal Government, State Government and tribes probably own more of Alaska than they do Arizona, and that’s a small fraction of the state.

          Of course evaluation and renegotiation of contracts is normal business practice. But if you think ACES is anything but “your typical government reg/tax scenario”, I’ve got some great swamp land for you just a tad east of Phoenix.

          • Vladimir
        • Achance

          unless you include Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act (ANCSA) corporations as private landowners and even they have no subsurface rights. The provinces at issue are those on State lands and perhaps some on ANCSA Corporation lands which would also be subject to State and political subdivision taxation, e.g., the North Slope Borough. It is extraordinarily unlikely that there will be any development on federal lands or waters until that glorious day when Republicans have 60 Senators that will actually vote like Republicans, a House majority, and the WH.

          The real issue is the fact that the more promising provinces on State land are quite far from the Prudhoe Bay/TAPS complex and thus entail very high development costs. Expensive provinces require high prices to be profitable and the “progressive” aspects of ACES tax the oil at a much higher rate at higher prices thus removing the incentive to develop more expensive fields. It should also be noted that the State’s efforts to force the producers to develop the Pt. Thompson province have been unsuccessful thus far as the Superior Court rejected the State’s attempts to take the leases back. The decision is here: http://www.courts.alaska.gov/specproj/3an-06-13751ci.pdf

          Taking these leases back was also a centerpiece of the AGIA Gasline initiative. I assume that the State will appeal to the AKSC, but there goes another year without Pt. Thompson oil or gas being developed. Exxon is the major producer on this unit and it has been clear for over twenty years that they do not believe this province is economically viable because of the lack of transportation to the TAPS system. Consequently, either prices and profits must be high enough from this field to justify building a pipeline to connect to the TAPS or Exxon could be hardballing the State in an effort to get the State to finance the necessary pipeline.

          Ulimately, a State equity position of some sort is likely to be necessary. Alaska has about a decade window before it HAS to have NS gas for its own domestic needs. Pt. Thomson has significant gas and that gas can be developed without reducing the already declining Prodhoe Bay production which is maintained largely by gas re-injection or by increasing Prudhoe Bay production costs by substituting water injection for the gas. So, the game here will be to get somebody to pony up for a pipeline to connect Pt. Thompson to the already developed provinces. Maybe tax incentives will do it or maybe the producers will sit and force the State’s hand as Southcentral Alaska begins to run out of Cook Inlet gas and the TAPS teeters inexorably toward the lower limit of its economic viability due to increasing costs of the now almost forty year old field and the steadily declining production.

  • natlanthem

    Rights to the oil belong to the owners of the oil, which in many cases are the citizens of AK, along with private ownership and federal ownership (and thereby non-Alaskans).

    The citizens act as a group with politicians as their spokemen in partnership with owners of petroleum production companies (stockholder citizens), who in turn have corporate executives as their spokesmen.

    Owners of the oil wish to maximize the return on the sale of their restricted commodity. Owners of the production business wish to invest in activities that achieve a maximum return when compared with other possible opportunities.

    Timing is also important, in that Alaska may need cash flow now versus maximizes return, as might be the case for the business side as well. This whole interaction is NOT a tax, and it is quite silly to think of it in the same terms as a tax reduction intended to lure business. By looking at it in business free market terms, the route is obvious.

    Alaska must balance its needs for a stream of cash flow versus what it perceives as the competing opportunities oil companies have for production elsewhere, then price accordingly. And that pricing should be reviewed frequently for changes in the marketplace.

    State “taxes” should be decided on a non-industry specific basis, adjusted for desirable vs non-desirable industry allure.

    Of course, as in all negotiations, sides will position themselves with proclamations of need, hardship and chest-beating. AK should stick to its evaluations of the marketplace, and not fall prey to the media or political aspirations of any one group.

  • Scope

    To look at another article concerning Parnell’s take on ACES, (rather than an ABC lamestream mdia article), please check-

    Lawmakers ask Parnell to review ’07 oil tax increase-

    http://www.adn.com/parnell/story/1041681.html

    A group of Alaska’s Republican state Reps. (15 of the 25 Repubs.) have voiced their concern, as you stated above, that the ACES bill “may” do more harm than good. Many of those 15 were opposed to the 2007 legislation.

    According to the article, Parnell supported the 2007 ACES bill. He still believes it has been successful. He is not asking for the tax rate to be lowered, he is considering additional tax incentives for the oil companies, as the original bill already gave the oil companies many tax breaks for future development. As stated above, the tax is on “net profits”, which already allows the oil companies many many deductions for development before the tax applies.

    In a December 2009 article, State Senator Hollis French, a Democrat for sure, listed some information taken directly from oil company financial statements, and, also includes employment information from a state labor economist.

    http://juneauempire.com/stories/121009/opi_534186921.shtml

    “The tax is on net profits and gives a robust set of tax credits for certain types of expenditures. The bill recognizes that production costs are substantial and should be factored into the tax rate. For more challenging development, like heavy oil production with it’s much higher costs, or extended reach horizontal wells, the law lets those costs be deducted from revenue before a dollar of tax is paid.

    As to the bill being a “job killer”- numbers from a state labor economist indicate that employment in the oil industry is at record levels. BP employed 1,50 people in 2006. Today they employ just short of 2,000. Overall employment is up- for the first 3/4 of this year (2009) the average monthly job count in the oil and gas industry was 13,111 compared to 12,677 for the same period in 2008.

    Since the legislation passed, exploration capital expenditures have increased 20%.

    _______________________________________

    While I am not against the oil companies, and, I understand they want to pay the lease amount of taxes as possible, the state has tried to strike a balance between collecting what may be considered a “fair” amount of revenue for their resources, and, has been aware that they could bite off their nose to spite their face, so to speak. Because the oil companies have still earned healthy profits from it’s Alaska projects, according to their own financial statements, it would appear that the oil companies may be biting off their nose to spite their faces. According to the link above “more info here” which is the ABC information, BP is moving over to the Liberty oil field, on Federal government land, to develop a new oil site, where they can escape state ACES taxes. BP has owned the lease on the Liberty field, and, in 2002 said they were abandoning the project. Then in 2007 they claimed they were investing $30 million in the project. It will be interesting to see where that goes, as the Obama administrations Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, is adding additional restrictions to oil leases, and drilling, for now in Utah mainly. Give it time.

    Salazar announces tougher rules on drilling-

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100106/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_interior_drilling

    “Interior was blocking more than $100 million worth of leases that companies have paid for but cannot gain access to.”

    According to the Republican Rep., Doc Hastings, who is the ranking Republican on the House Natural Resource Committee- “This administration has leased less acreage than any other on record and appears determined to throw up every roadblock possible to stall and ultimately halt energy development on Federal lands.”

    It seems that the Republicans in the Alaska state legislature, who are having problems with the ACES bill, may be more concerned with playing politics, and may be more concerned with re-election, rather than what is best for the state of Alaska and it’s citizens. They very well may be playing with fire. As stated above, it was a Republican legislature that got embroiled in major corruption scandals that prompted a change in the taxing scheme to begin with, and, that wasn’t that many years ago. While it is a Republican mantra “less taxes”, and that is a noble goal, I would think that the residents of Alaska would be in favor of gaining state revenues from their resources, rather than to have to pay income, property and sales taxes. The Republican legislators need to move forward cautiously, and to work with their current Republican Governor, in stricking a “fair” balance between what is best for the state, while making it “equitable” for the oil companies to continue to do business within the state. It would behoove the oil companies to work with the state, rather than to moving over to the Federal government in order to gain more profits. Soon enough the oil companies will be out of business if they think they can do better with the feds and the environmentalists.

    • aesthete

      Making the case that it was is like saying that communism, as the superior system, is what let the Soviets launch the first cosmonaut into outer space, rather than factors such as their capturing of Nazi missile scientists and research.

      Increased profit was the result of world-wide demand, and would have been present with the PPT tax scheme, as well. What has been notably missing has been expansion on the part of oil companies, as would be expected in an industry where high profits are what spur increased development. Keep in mind that at the peak of oil profit, $140/barrel, state taxes were 43% (almost double the PPT rate), and remained in the ~35% range during the oil profitability peak. It’s hard to imagine tax breaks in development that would offset the depressive effects that such legislation would have on profits. Given what is happening in AK now, I’d say that they weren’t sufficient to spur adequate levels of investment.

      There are better ways to maximize revenues than a profits tax, which tends to be inefficient. Greg Mankiw, the principal architect of the Bush tax cuts, also notes that windfall profits taxes (yeah, ACES isn’t one, but the effects are very similar) often distort the choice of inputs (capital vs. labor).

      Why is it that Republicans have to be the ones playing politics, when the ACES bill passed largely with Democratic support, and when Dems have constituencies that benefitted from this legislation? Hollis French, the Dem cited by yourself, is not a moderate or a blue dog, but a liberal! As Art noted previously, Palin and the Dems were playing politics in the formation of ACES as the “non-corrupt” tax scheme; is it alright when they do it, but wrong when Republicans note that the tax scheme isn’t working out as well as advertised?

      As far as the oil companies doing business with the Fed on oil, they’ll probably lose out to some extent. But considering that they do business in areas as volatile as Saudi and, until recently, Venezuela, I don’t think that it’s as bad a deal for them as one might think.

      • Scope

        that the oil company profits were a result of ACES. That’s ludicrous.

        I really cannot speak to your accounting talk as I am not at all familiar with Hayek. Was that the Austrian economist that is highly regarded by Ron Paul? I really don’t know anything about that.

        Yes, any party that is on the prowl for more power, re-election etc. rather than what is for the best in the country or the state should be voted out of office, Democrat or Republican.

        I wasn’t talking about the oil companies doing business in Saudi Arabia or anywhere other than in Alaska. I simple said that if they think they can do better dealing with the feds in Alaska rather than the state, they will probably get the rude awakening they deserve.

        • aesthete

          Very briefly and simply: windfall profits taxes don’t work, because they discourage investment. One component of ACES is very similar to a windfall profits tax, and hurts by depressing investment more than it helps the state or the people of AK with increased revenues. These revenues can be obtained in ways that are less destructive than a profits tax. That is the claim that detractors of ACES have made consistently, and is borne out by the fact that investment in new fields has pretty much been non-existent since ACES was passed. That has nothing to do with the fact that Palin supported it, that Dems supported it, or that Republicans opposed it, and everything to do with what Vlad said: “When you want less of an activity, tax it. When you want more of the activity, reduce taxes on it.”.

          • Scope

            that the tax has decreased new exploration? There has not been the first document, article or anything showing the decrease. Until I see that, it remains a talking point to me, and nothing else.

            You insist on calling it a windfall profits tax. Others here, much smarter than I, have argued that it isn’t a windfall profits tax. The only part that could be compared would be the .2% on any amount over the $50. price per barrel portion. Where do you divide profits, from windfall profits?

          • Scope

            there must be a balance between what is best for the state, and the oil companies. I don’t know how else to say that, or what other words I can use to make you understand that that is where I am coming from. Do you think the oil companies will “donate” a portion of their profits to Alaska if a fair tax rate is not established.

          • aesthete

            I’m not missing your point–a windfall profits tax isn’t good for either the state (erratic revenue, difficult to enforce, not economically efficient) or businesses (depresses investment resulting from profit).

            A windfall profits tax has the same effects as a profits tax; the only difference is semantic, in that in a windfall profits tax has some section of profit cordoned off as “windfall” and exploited through taxation.

            I didn’t feel that it was necessary to provide proof for what is common knowledge about AK. The article that you posted on my OP implies as much: “With new, higher oil prices, Laing said it is hard to define what is prompting or limiting investment spending.
            ‘Under the current prices we’re seeing, and new price forecasts considerably higher than they were, you are seeing investment in both oil and natural gas all over the world,’ Laing said.” That says a lot about the state of affairs in Alaska.

            Like Aaron says, the fact that ACES is a progressive windfall profits tax supported by Democrats should send you running for the hills. The fact that it’s not is indicative of the absurdly generous amount of goodwill that some conservatives have for Palin.

          • Aaron Gardner

            And the just the fact that it is a progressive tax should have your running away like your hair was on fire. At least that is my opinion.

    • Achance

      Here’s Alaska’s revenue from SFY 97- SFY 09. A State Fiscal Year is July 1 – June 30. Revenue in millions from the Alaska Comprehensive Annual Financial Report. Available here: http://fin.admin.state.ak.us/dof/financial_reports/cafr_toc.jsp

      Knowles Budgets:
      SFY 97: Federal- $942. Total- $3727
      SFY 98: Federal- $958. Total- $3018
      SFY 99: Federal- $1029. Total-$2555
      SFY 00: Federal- $1216. Total- $3725
      SFY 01: Federal- $1297. Total- $4187
      SFY 02: Federal- $1536. Total- $3710
      SFY 03: Federal- $1749. Total- $4193

      Murkowski Budgets:
      SFY 04: Federal- $1918. Total- $4679
      SFY 05: Federal- $1924. Total- $5647
      SFY 06: Federal- $1970. Total- $6729
      SFY 07: Federal- $1993. Total- $7913

      Palin Budgets:
      SFY 08: Federal- $1897. Total- $13546
      SFY 09: Federal- $2088. Total- $8184

      You made much of the reduction in federal spending as a percent of total spending but you note that federal spending in Alaska went up every year except SFY 08, which also coincided with the end of a big Transportation spending cycle and it was up almost $100MM in 09 over the 07 level.

      It is very easy to be a very popular governor when your first budget has almost twice as much revenue supporting it as your predecessor’s largest budget. Combine all that spending with record breaking Permanent Fund Dividends and the billion with a “B” dollar “energy rebate” payment and, you know what, people love people who throw that kind of money around.

      Fundamentally, the Palin revenue and spending paradigm assumed that oil prices would remain very high; she was wrong. Fortunately, not all that money got spent in current year so the State has been able to transition to a lower revenue environment without too much drama though it fell to the Legislature to force the Palin Administration to do new revenue forecasts on which to base the almost 40% lower SFY 09 budget.

      Of more interest to the State in a stable price environment is the production of oil from Alaska provinces which has steadily declined since the late ’80s. There is almost no development in Alaska these days and the TransAlaska Pipeline is approaching the lower limit of its economic viability. The terms of its construction require that if it is shut down, it is to be dissassembled and the right of way restored. It is well to recall that with a Republican in the White House and in the teeth of the Arab Oil Embargo, the enabling legislation for the TAPS passed the Senate on the vote of VP Agnew.

      • Scope

        I’ve noted your federal revenue vs total revenue numbers above. You are correct that the amount of federal revenue in 2008 was not significantly lower than it had been in previous years, even though the total revenue was significantly higher. It makes sense, as federal government mandated programs such as Medicaid and Medicare costs would not drop just because the state’s revenues increased.

        As to the resident’s in Alaska being happy with a Governor who sends them rebate checks because of increased oil tax revenues, yeah you are right. Why would they bitch, and not want to keep electing Governors who do that. Is there something wrong with that? Aren’t Governors or any state elected officials supposed to work for the benefit of the states citizens.

        As to Palin making up a budget, based on expected high oil revenues, didn’t most believe that oil prices wouldn’t tank back down to the $30-$40 per barrel range. You guys have a very healthy rainy day fund for those types of circumstances. Oil has been trading near to the $70 per barrel price range for some time now. I expect it will go even higher sooner rather than later. I believe Vladimir himself, not long ago, had a diary where he says “And you thought $4 per gallon gas was high.” As our energy demands increase, or even stay the same, and, the feds block drilling everywhere they can in the US, oil prices will skyrocket. The oil companies will be sitting on some very high priced gold in Alaska, and maybe then they will stop whinning about Alaska’s high tax rate. Maybe they will decide to move from the federally owned Liberty field back to the state owned fields, if Salazar doesn’t block them from there as well.

        As far as declining production from some of the oil fields, are some just used up and drained? Is a part of the problem from old corroded pipes that were never maintained properly? From what I’ve read, they are springing leaks everywhere, but, cannot be shut down for maintenance, as it will disturb the steady flow that the oil companies need to make their steady profits.

        • Achance

          can propose taking permanent fund revenue for any purpose other than a dividend or tapping the corpus of the Fund. Simply can’t be done politically; all Alaskans are entitled to either a new flat screen or a ticket to Hawaii or Mexico every October paid for by the Permanent Fund Dividend.

          They’re not going to go to federal land because the feds won’t let them and they know it. Even if the feds put something up for lease, it isn’t a good faith offer, because they know the Greenies will lock it up in litigation for a decade or more. The only potential for development is on State land and, a little, in State waters. And there the issue is taxation. Under ACES, the tax is too low for State operations at low production and low prices and too high for increased development at high prices. Plus, a profits tax is simply guaranteed never-ending litigation about where the profits were made and whether the expenses were deductible.

          We adults had this discussion back in the ’70s when She Who Was Once Governor was in grade school. Alaska sells oil and the way we collect most of our revenue from it is by measuring how much we sell. How much profit the producers make is largely beyond our control. That’s why we chose production based taxes as the primary revenue source back when the North Slope was first being developed. We do have a corporate income tax that the large producers have to pay but it basically relies on what they tell the Fed and we say, “me too.”

          The producers haven’t covered themselves with glory in the way they’ve maintained the Prudhoe Bay field, with a due allowance for the fact that is a large and very harsh place. There’s a stink somewhere in how the State regulated the maintenance, especially during the Knowles Administration, but the only thing I can say with certainty about whose fault it is is that the first liar doesn’t have a chance.

          The only real beef with the Murkowski era PPT was just where the rate would be set, 20%, 22%, or some other number. Nobody, including the producers and the Democrats really disputed the methodology. The Democrats wanted a higher percentage, the producers a lower one. The end result was somewhere in the middle. The government never proved that any of the votes were a quid pro quo, and frankly, those legislators would have voted with the industry no matter what; it didn’t take a hundred bucks changing hands in Room 604 of The Baranof to make them vote that way.

          The FBI managed to criminalize politics. You could have sent most anybody who held elected or appointed office to jail just by charging them with holding office in those days. When Palin introduced ACES, nobody would dare vote for anything the industry wanted for fear of having the FBI at their door. Ralph Samuels is the only R who voted against it and he’ll probably be the next govenor for his efforts.

          • Scope

            Do you think it wrong for the monies to be shared with the citizens of Alaska, no matter where it comes from. I may be wrong, but, it seems at some point I may have read something about the Alaska Constitution saying that any oil revenues were to be shared with the owners of the resources, the people of Alaska.

            You say that only one Republican was against ACES when it was passed. The article I linked above says that 15 of the current 25 republicans were against the bill in 2007. Were they for it before they were against it?

            What exactly are the changes that Parnell is seeking to the bill? Doesn’t the bill already give the oil companies many tax breaks and incentives? It seems to me that it is a fight between the state and the oil companies. With the current communist administration, and their total aversion to drilling anywhere, and there edict that we will get off of oil and gas, would that not give more levergae to the state. That is if the oil companies want to remain in business in Alaska. If they wanted to go elsewhere in the world to do business, why have they not abandoned Alaska long ago in search of brighter sunshine? Aren’t most of the oil resources currently owned by dictators in other countries. Hey man, I’m looking out for you guys in your state, and, unlike you, I am not even including Palin in the discussions. Just like Bush, she’s gone, and, you only get to blame her for so long. If anything it is your current Republican Governor, and the Republican majorities in your Congress that are keeping the policies previously set. They don’t have to.

          • mbecker908

            I’ll leave that to Alaska residents.

            However, as far “…you only get to blame her for so long.”, I will comment on that.

            Every time one of the ‘bots show up and talk about their SarahSavior™ they point to ACES and to the ghost pipeline as big time accomplishments in her administration. The bottom line will likely turn out to be that ACES was a bad deal for the reasons discussed above and the plan that replaces it will likely not look anything like it. As far as the ghost pipeline is concerned, I’m guessing it will be DLBA (dead long before arrival) and the only benefit from it will accrue to a Canadian company who got a ton of cash to do nothing.

            We do need to wait and see what happens, but I think the outcome will be closer to my expectations than Gary’s.

          • Achance

            Sean will either start thinking for himself or he’ll be a footnote. I like the guy, worked for him for a session when he was in the Legislature. He is, however, stuck with Palin’s administration. At this late date, they’re all either inside the tent peeing out or outside the tent peeing in. That’s the problem with high-level employees; if you get rid of them, they just go work for the other side. So, in that regard, SWWOG is not gone; her administration lives on and Parnell has to deal with that. Tom Irwin and Marty Rutherford at DNR and Pat Galvin at Revenue are the architects of ACES and AGIA. Parnell has to get along with them, because if he tries to change anything they did, they become his enemies. Not that Sean would make a change though. We’ll see; there’s an election in November and elections have consequences.

          • pilgrim

            Does the current Governor have an administration? I have never argued with you about Palin because you know her, and I do not. I just think it is just spinning bs to suggest that her administration lives on. This is almost like saying it is still George W. Bush’s fault now because Bob Gates is still Sec’y of Defense.

          • mbecker908

            live on, her administration lives on.

            If ACES has a negative impact to the state of Alaska (or a positive impact for that matter) that accrues to Palin’s balance sheet. Same for the ghost pipeline.

          • pilgrim

            The Palin administration does not live on any more than the Bush administration lives on. The current administration owns any decisions to continue or discontinue policies initiated by the previous administration. You can label a policy any way you want to, but it is not exactly the same thing as an administration living on.

          • Achance

            She elevated one of her primary benefactors, Craig Campbell, to Lt. Governor and all the rest of her appointees are still in place – ALL of them, so it’s still her administration. Campbell is the one who gave her all her photos in tee shirts with an M-4 in her hand and gave her cover to miss debates by going to military send-offs. In return she made him first a Lt. General in a job that is normally only a Brigadier and then made him Lt. Gov. despite the fact that the Constitution doesn’t even contemplate the Lt. Gov. being replaced if a Lt. Gov moves up to Gov.

            As I said above somewhere, Parnell doesn’t really have much choice this late in a term; he either keeps them in the tent peeing out or they’re out the tent peeing in. But, they’re all still Hers.

          • pilgrim

            Parnell does not have much choice. I get that. All I am saying is that the choice is no longer Sarah Palin’s. Sean js now the Governor, and it is his choice to keep her people in place. Her administration does not live on, but the current governor chooses to continue keeping her people in place. This leaves the wrong perception that the Palin administration lives on because it’s just too hard late in a term to make a different choice.

          • mbecker908

            don’t you get? She put the policies and programs AND the people in place to administer them. This is effectively still her administration, she’s just not there because she cut and ran before her term was up.

            If Parnell changes the policies or programs THEN the fickle finger of fate points at him. Until then…

            Oh, and she is responsible for the results of her policies.

          • mbecker908

            I hate these super indented threads where you can’t see what you’re typing.

          • pilgrim

            Sarah Palin does not have any authority to tell the current Governor of Alaska what to do. The fickle finger of fate points at him for the choices he makes. He can choose to leave everything the same and the fickle finger of fate points at him as much as if he chooses to change policies or programs

            I agree with you that she can be blamed for the results of her policies. That she resigned before her term was up means that all the decisions and choices that are made today are not owned by her. The current governor owns those decisions. She can only own the decisions she made as Governor.

          • mbecker908
          • pilgrim

            Are you referring to the tripe that Sarah Palin has no authority today to tell the Governor of Alaska what to do? Are you referring to the tripe that the current governor of Alaska owns every decision that he makes as Governor including a decision to do nothing?

            I can say the same things about former President George W. Bush and the current resident in the oval office. how foolish of me

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            This difference between someone who is elected to office and Sean Parnell’s ascendency to the governorship is that Parnell was elected as part of the Palin team. He does not have an individual mandate, does not have an independent group of supporters and advisors whom he can bring into office, and did not have the luxury of a transition period to set a course for his administration.

            Indeed, the expectation for his assuming office is that he would maintain continuity with the Palin administation. Which is what he has been doing, and gradually he is making changes as he sees fit.

            But he clearly is not entirely his own man; indeed, were he to radically change course, he would be assailed as opportunistic and disloyal to the leaders who help him become lieutenant governor – and would have a very rocky political future – or more likely none at all as no one would ever trust him again.

            So yes, he will have to run on his record as having been part of the Palin administration and for the policies that he has followed. But the kind of cautious differentiation that he is staking out is really as much as one could do in his position.

          • pilgrim

            Sean will either start thinking for himself or he?ll be a footnote.

            I understand that he has very little choice in his position. I take issue with the narrative that he gets a free pass and will not be judged on his decisions. He will be judged on his decisions.

          • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

            So it looks like there are grounds for conciliation. I have to see how mbecker responds.

            And Art’s comment really does say it all much more succinctly.

          • mbecker908

            Which is easy, since that was my basic point.

            Parnell, for all intents and purposes, IS Palin unless he disconnects himself from her policies in a very dramatic way.

            From where I sit – about 40 degrees F warmer than Ankorage – the next election is an Alaska referendum on Palin, barring some major happening.

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          • hickorystick

            I lived in Juneau for five years, and you always knew when the state released the oil money, because brand new Pontiac firebirds would show up in the trailer park under the bridge going from Juneau to Douglas.

          • Achance

            The druggies still lament its passing. Typical Juneau, what should be some of the most valuable waterfront property in the Northwest has a couple cheaply built office buildings housing Labor and Fish and Game, a small hotel that had an awful time getting permitted because the greenies thought it was too high and would block the view from Snob Hill, and a City shop.

            They put a traffic circle at the Douglas end of the bridge to manage the merging of traffic over there and it filled the “Letters” pages for weeks. You’d have thought there was a real possibility of people falling off the space-time continuum going around that circle. My personal best in one lap of it is hitting the bridge at 95 mph, but I’m pretty sure I could get three digits out of my Chrysler if I worked at it. Cops have taken to patroling the area a lot though because the kids with Rice Rockets like to drift on the circle.

          • hickorystick

            I lived there from ’71-’76 as a young teenager. On the Douglas side if you went right there was a bridge thst was so narrow only one vehicle could safely pass over it at a time.
            On the upstream side was a little cottage next to the waterfall. Dad told us not to go there because the man who lived there took property rights to the extreme and had the guns to enforce it. His dog was a spawn from hell too. So I was a little more than surprised when the drought happened, that the pastor of the Douglas island Bible Church, and the Missionary running the Auke Bay Bible camp went down the driveway as far as the dog would let them, and tried to talk the old man into letting us fill up our 55 gallon drums with water by the fall. Took them about a week of effort to negotiate that one.
            Where is this Snob Hill?

          • Achance

            The old steel truss has been replaced with a concrete arch that theoretically will allow ferries and CG cutters under it, but they don’t dredge the bar anymore so there’s not any ocean-going traffic beyond three and a half mile. Ferries don’t go downtown anymore; all that’s out at the Auke Bay terminal since the mid-80s, Even pleasure boats with the usual 3-4 foot draught can only go directly from Auke Bay/Fritz Cove to town on a 16 foot or greater tide, and then it’s a nerve racking exercise.

            That house is still there by the waterfall; don’t know who lives there. I let my Douglas visa expire an almost never go over there; not reason to go unless you just like to hang out with Lefties at Perserverance Theatre. Mike’s Place is gone, now the Douglas Island Pub and tres fashionable and lefty. Louies’ is still there and the same old crowd, just older and drunker.

            They just took all the land at the Douglas end of the bridge and put a traffic circle in, maybe 150 yards in diameter, get off the right side of the circle to go to North Douglas, left side to go to West Juneau, Douglas and Treadwell/Sandy Beach, and it centers on the bridge to town. Snob Hill is that whole area above the Capitol; Chicken Ridge, 6th Street, Basin Rd. Also the old area around 10th Street is yuppie/lefty/lawyer heaven; one “War is not the Answer” sign after another in there too.

            When you were here and even when I first came here in ’84 there was still a functioning regular downtown with real stores and such. Anymore, it’s all bars, restaurants, and tourist traps. Foodland is still down there, and the drugstore, a hardware store owned by guys who used to work at Lyles before they went out of the hardware business and that’s pretty much it for stores downtown. What little shopping there is here is almost entirely in The Valley and both malls out here are at least a third empty. High-level government employees travel enough that they shop in Anchorage or Outside, and everybody else shops online for most everything but building materials and groceries. In a state capital, you can’t buy a man’s suit! If you have a jacket and tie job, you shop in ANC, Outside, or online. There’s still a couple of women’s shops. WalMart and Fred Meyer sell some clothing but mostly kid stuff and casual clothing. Since I retired, gotta admit I really prefer WalMart’s prices to Brooks Brothers in SEA or online. Anyway, a very different town from when you were here in the ’70s.

          • hickorystick

            I guess the little city that I lived in doesn’t really exist anymore. The Lefty stuff would have been mocked when I was there. The Sierra Club was an outside meddling enviromental group. I went to a Mountaineers lecture at the Glacier interpretive center and at the end, one of the lecturer’s said he wanted to speak some personal thoughts, and started in on a ecological/population control screed. The room cleared out so fast.
            Anyway, on a nicer thought, next time you go into the Capitol Building their is some acid-etched art glass. i don’t know exactly where, but I learned after we lived there that my Grandfathers brother Wayne made it. He learned his art in Philidelphia attending an art instiute on a WW1 GI-bill. Only the Vets who received the Purple Heart were eligible for that. He served in Company C 308th Infantry /77th Division; The “Lost Battalion” of WW1. So there is always at least one good thing in the Capitol building.
            Again, thanks for taking the time to bring me up to speed on Juneau.

          • Achance

            The Leg goes into session Tuesday, so nobody’s life, liberty, or property will be safe for 90 days and I’ll have to be down there a good bit. Other than ocassionally going downtown to go to dinner at The Baranof or The Hangar (the restaurant and bar that is in the old Alaska Coastal hangar on the waterfront) I just don’t go to town anymore unless somebody is paying me.

          • SteveLA

            Art,

            What is the lay of the land with the newspapers up in Alaska? I’ve read the ADN, and they have their bias, but wonder what the bias is of the Alaska Dispatch.

            It’s always good to know before reading a news out for what the dog in the fight is for each outlet, especially when it comes to the SWMNBN.

          • mbecker908

            The whole chain is slightly to the left of Pravda in 1950.

          • SteveLA

            mbecker

            Figured that much out, probably more interested in what the Alaska Dispatch was all about.

          • Richard Mullins

            Here in Texas that seems to range from “they haven’t gotten quite there yet” to full out Leftist. McClathchy is close to Hearst on leftist cage liner so outside of any boredom I have, no subscription to the Houston Chronicle. I made an exception for the San Antonio Express-New. I think it terrible that I have to deal with the Austin Communist Statesman.

          • Achance

            paper are the only really independent papers left I like the News-Miner.
            Everything else in legacy media is Outside-owned and has an agenda, thouth the Juneau Empire, owned by Georgia based Morris Comminications, is trying to be a legitimate newspaper again. Dan Fagan’s blog is over the top sometimes but I think it pretty accurately reflects thinking here. Most of the individual blogs are all about the person who put up the blog, and most of them are Lefties. I’d put one up but I have so many people who hate me from my days with the State that I’d just spend all my time blamming people. RedState has pretty much eliminated all my stalkers here, but on the Alaska blogs and comments on news stories, I do draw a crowd.

    • Vladimir

      … if the production is under state jurisdiction?

      Rarely do I utter a word in favor of the Feds, but their royalties vary from 12.5% to 18.75%, and no severance tax. They may nickel-and-dime from time to time, but I’ve never seen them drop the hammer like Alaska did.

      Like I said upthread, Alaska’s style seems taken from Hugo Chavez’s playbook.

      • Scope

        I’m quite certain that the state has their own regs, as well as the federally mandated ones. One thing though, apparently the environmentalists haven’t banned drilling where it has gone on on state lands.

        Vladimir, are you involved in the oil and gas industry? Seems that you may be in light of your many diaries on energy.

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    • dennism

      You told Mom you were playing piano in a whorehouse… oh the humanity…

      • Vladimir

        “Well, I’ll be. To listen to [Vladimir], you wouldn’t think he had a brain in his head.”

        Inside joke.

  • Richard Mullins

    At least it’s all quite sane here and it’s run right. I need to get rid of anyone that thinks the Alaska model is way to go.

  • Achance

    She Who Was Once Governor brought them all back.

  • Achance

    http://www.adn.com/news/government/legislature/story/1097104.html

    Note that it is Democrat Senator and gubernatorial candidate, Hollis French, late of the Troopergate investigation, defending ACES.