East Anglia is supposedly the repository of the world’s best temperature database, which even NOAA defers to. Oh, and East Anglia failed to keep their raw data.

The individuals coming under scrutiny in this case are the people (both in the UK and in the US) who had the temerity to make FOI data requests. The ones that East Anglia blew off & failed to respond to in a timely fashion.

Are you a civil libertarian? Are you not the least bit troubled by the police showing up & questioning the politics, scientific credentials etc. of the people that did go through the channels and attempt to have legitimate questions answered through FOI requests?

How “independent” were those investigations? Boy, they sure got wrapped up in a hell of a hurry.

Have you considered the content of the purloined emails? The disregard for the integrity and the abuse of the peer review process? The emphasis on stiffing the Medieval Warming?

50 years is no time frame to evaluate planet-wide climate phenomena. What about the “missing heat” of Trenberth and Fasullo? That doesn’t make you just the teeniest bit skeptical?

Since you are one of the last remaining people in the Western Hemisphere that still believes that those in the business of flacking climate change and global warming are doing so with nary a lick of bias. As to illegal activities, what would you call people who took government money to study something, hid the true facts, and continuously fudged the rest of them all in order to keep getting that money?

That’s my definition of theft, which, correct me if I’m wrong, is illegal. On the other hand, it’s the Left that is doing this, so maybe it’s not illegal, just business as usual.

You bring up the “well, they’ve been cleared of all wrongdoing” argument. So, what do you think of the whole Valerie Plame affair? Were Bush, Rove, Cheney involved with the leak, or not?

Oh, and if the same data is studied all around the world, there is no way to reconstruct that same data from the raw, since they lost the records after “norming” it. Even East Anglia said they had to start over because the data was in such bad shape.

And you talk about the last 50 years. 30 years ago, these same “research centers” were decrying “global cooling” during the preceeding 20 years. And you do realize that 1998 was not the warmest year on record, but 1934. And we’ve had a slight cooling trend since then. AND none of this even comes close to the medieval warm period – when Greenland was green.

It seems that since you are only looking at the last 50 years, you’ve been hit over the head too many times with Mann’s thoroughly discredited hockey stick.

in the Guardian–he’s the former head of East Anglia’s climate cabal, but it is also on UTube, that he and his staff could find no warming since 1998 and that he admits the medieval warming period probably produced a hotter climate than we have today.

This is the coldest Spring I EVER remember. I’m in the south

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As in,”Man made global warming linked to increased earthquake activity.”

The manipulation of temperature data by “climate scientists” accounts for nearly all of the “warming” during the 20^th Century. The actual increase in global temperatures was approximately 0.3 C°, and that gain appears to have been erased during the first-decade of the new Millennium.

The international community should be more concerned with mitigating a potentially devastating reduction in the world’s food supply an extended “cooling period” would cause.

with a very big grin.