Comments on: Tax Code Tweak Might Make CNG for Vehicles More Available

By: citizenkh

citizenkh — Sun, 13 May 2012 19:02:25 +0000

Louisiana, where it doesn’t need anything else.

By: citizenkh

citizenkh — Sat, 12 May 2012 18:18:56 +0000

Where do you get that from? I can do it myself since it is not that difficult. I’ve already checked into it a couple of years ago but just was not willing to make the capital investment for a home fueling station.

Then again, I don’t live it a whackjob state.

By: skip21al

skip21al — Sat, 12 May 2012 17:01:22 +0000

… its the EPA! They scare people from buying CNG conversion kits by saying the kit “must be EPA approved”. And now, states like California have simply said “yes, we agree, the driver must spend $15,000 on an EPA certified kit in order to pass our emissions test”.

This is wrong. IF the EPA would get out the the way then more people could buy a reliable CNG conversion kit like the ones at www.skycng.com. They are only about $1000 each. Their quality is just as good, if not better than EPA kits. SkyCNG just hasnt paid the huge fees for the EPA “blessing” of the kit.

By: funwithknives

funwithknives — Thu, 10 May 2012 20:59:40 +0000

but here goes:
1) H P means High Pressure, as in over 800psi. DEfinetly not a …gas main in a town…, but a dedicated, single use service, steel gas line. Ford/Wixom had Regulators,Prv’s, etc to control the H P and make it usable/controllable.

One semi, hitting on od these tanks on a foggy or real dark night is all it will take for sales to plummet.
Remember the Pinto fiasco?

By: radicalrighty

radicalrighty — Wed, 09 May 2012 11:48:57 +0000

My post was simply sarcasm, based on the skill (?) that Obama has in regards to collecting contributions, even from companies and industries that he vilifies, like Big Banking and Big Oil. I remember when he was ripping ExxonMobile during the Gulf spill, it came out that they were his biggest contributor in ’08.

I guess fear and intimidation open checkbooks as well as being in one’s back pocket (trial lawyers, unions) does.

By: citizenkh

citizenkh — Tue, 08 May 2012 22:09:40 +0000

you mean like is in our gasoline because of reformulated fuel blends?

It’s freaking METHANE, how in the world is it going to react and turn into another compound when more complex hydrocarbon compounds (like plastics) require stabilizers so they don’t revert back to natural gas?

Your info must be from Prison Planet or InfoWars.

By: citizenkh

citizenkh — Tue, 08 May 2012 22:05:49 +0000

1st, weight to power ratio.
2nd, European RON (Octane) standards for “Regular” are equivalent to our “Mid-Grade” and their standards for Premium are higher as well. That means more BTU/gallon (or liter if you want to go metric).
3rd, Safety Standards which refer to 1st point made.

By: acat

acat — Tue, 08 May 2012 21:39:13 +0000

(over at Ace of Spades .. warning, not politically correct) Mew

By: acat

acat — Tue, 08 May 2012 21:34:04 +0000

which, since it’s usually got some sort of a “with GPS to ensure nobody cheats”, may as well say “Big Brother” right on the cover….

Mew

By: Steve Maley

Steve Maley — Tue, 08 May 2012 21:20:51 +0000

The only place I ever hear of them exploding is when I read blogs.

Link.

By: arthurjake

arthurjake — Tue, 08 May 2012 20:19:59 +0000

When it comes to taxes the government always finds a way to collect. They did it to tell the difference between fuel for commercial vehicles and fuel for other purposes. Just took a little dye. They will find a quick fix to nail people trying to use natural gas that is supposed to be used for heating or generators to run cars.

By: rightlane1111

rightlane1111 — Tue, 08 May 2012 17:46:22 +0000

People…I have trouble with html…but I try. You want a story…well…the above is a story…and yet nobody looks at it.

NG as a fuel would be great…clean and cheap. However, it needs some type of a stablizer to be effective. As kitty said…one bump and we’re in for an explosion down the road.

However, I ask that you watch this video…it’s about another rip off.

Click Here

By: rightlane1111

rightlane1111 — Tue, 08 May 2012 17:04:27 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBnlXGvA1Wk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

By: acat

acat — Tue, 08 May 2012 16:43:39 +0000

and making sure to pay the fuel taxes is somewhat more difficult.

Mew

By: Dave_A

Dave_A — Tue, 08 May 2012 16:02:41 +0000

The oil companies aren’t ‘standing in the way’ of new vehicle technologies – especially if it means helping a man who vows to put them out of business.

The fact is, liquid fuel will always be superior to gaseous fuel for motor vehicles, simply because of the weight involved in containing gaseous fuel safely.

THAT SAID we *can* use natural gas to help the vehcile-fuel situation, by USING IT TO REPLACE OIL IN FIXED-PLANT APPLICATIONS such as running generators (both the standby/emergency-type and the power-plant type), and home heat (WHY is the Northeast STILL dependent on diesel fuel/bunker-oil for home heat?),,,,

That will free up oil for use as a motor fuel – something we have no viable alternative for at this time….

By: citizenkh

citizenkh — Tue, 08 May 2012 16:02:08 +0000

in amount available for combustible gas between a tank and a flowing line. Though pressure of a gas main in a town is under far less pressure than a gas transmission line over distance. and far less than a CNG tank.

By: citizenkh

citizenkh — Tue, 08 May 2012 15:58:34 +0000

gasoline engines to both burn gasoline, butane and natural gas (not at the same time) is cheap and easy.

By: citizenkh

citizenkh — Tue, 08 May 2012 15:56:35 +0000

for a burst pressure of over almost 7000 psig, and the operating pressure is approx 3000 psig.

The problem presently are the regulations surrounding inspection and recertification. They are only certified for up to 25 years but required inspection every 5.

FYI, Shell Chemical, Carson, CA had pressure vessels in service for ethane rated for 650 psig when constructed in the late 1800′s with welds that looked like someone had applied frosting on top of a cake with a butter knife. They were in service until 1991.

By: funwithknives

funwithknives — Tue, 08 May 2012 15:52:27 +0000

the former Ford Wixom Assembly plant {aka: Lincoln Plant}
If you’re familiar with Novi/Wixom, directly in front of the former ‘Jimmies Rustics’, on Gr. River, east of Wixom road.
{depressing, isn’t it, how ‘former’ keeps getting in here?}

An underground contractor miscalculated where his Bore and Jack ‘sleeve pipe’ {to contain a sanitary lead pipe} was going to emerge and put the drill throught the bottom third of the gas main. Line had to be kept active as Ford was running 62 cars/hour and this line fed the paint drying area.

To make it short, The H P gas company torched -off the line while affecting the repair. To say ‘OOOPS’ is to put it mildly….

They lost a buncha cars anyway and the entire gas crew went to the hospital.

The personally unfunniest part of it was, I just happened to stop by on my way home, to visit with a fellow employee. Didn’t know about the hissing until I arrived,and Fascination was my downfall.

“…lucky I was ,Youngling…”
Stupid and moronic fits in there somewhere…..

By: citizenkh

citizenkh — Tue, 08 May 2012 15:50:21 +0000

Though I would say that is more like the labyrinth which held the Minotaur, and the Feds are the Minotaur.