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	<title>Comments on: ABC News: Conservatives Are Biggest Porn Consumers?</title>
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		<title>By: Rubashov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rubashov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On page 216, he says: "at mean values of other variables considered, a $1,000 increase in average household income in a zip code [he looks at sub-state level data] is associated with a 0.36 percent increase in subscriptions."

It is actually the first variable he lists in his results.  Blame ABC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On page 216, he says: &#8220;at mean values of other variables considered, a $1,000 increase in average household income in a zip code [he looks at sub-state level data] is associated with a 0.36 percent increase in subscriptions.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is actually the first variable he lists in his results.  Blame ABC.</p>
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		<title>By: Rubashov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rubashov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't get mad at the author, get mad at ABC, please.

a) The statistics are fine.  First, a cutoff of p=.1 is normal in the social sciences.  Second, the article DOES use multiple regression (check out the first paragraph on p.216).  Third, the suspect AVN figures are fluff in the intro, he doesn't use them in his analysis.   He gets his real numbers from respectable sources.

b) The author's claim is fairly clear at the end (the sentence bridging the last two pages)--and it's not what ABC says.  He finds that online porn subscriptions "show remarkable consistency" across state and demographic boundaries.  His map (table 2) shows this: Minnesota and Texas are the same, New York is higher than North Carolina, Washington State is quite high--there is no red/blue divide on that map.

c) The author does not make any casual claim tying conservatism to porn buying.  From what I read, the argument (stated in other comments) that people in conservative places buy it online because they can't get it in stores fits perfectly with his findings, and he offers no reason to think he'd disagree.

d) The issue of whether or not to control for broadband use is an important one which ABC neglects.  In the article, he discusses it, and shows two pictures--one controlling for it and one not.  By ignoring this, ABC twists the article.  For example, the ABC article says that 8 of the top 10 states voted for McCain.  That's true, controlling for broadband use.  In a straight per capita list (which the author provides) 7 of the 10 vote for Obama.   The author remains equivocal about which list is best, since he cannot get data on what percent of broadband users get broadband in order to watch porn.

In other words, the article is a solid piece of research that makes no claims it can't back up with empirical proof.  It does not put a partisan spin (or even provide data that could be honestly spun).  The problem here is that the ABC reporters (who probably don't understand the statistical issues) cherry picked fragments of the article and strung them together into something new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get mad at the author, get mad at ABC, please.</p>
<p>a) The statistics are fine.  First, a cutoff of p=.1 is normal in the social sciences.  Second, the article DOES use multiple regression (check out the first paragraph on p.216).  Third, the suspect AVN figures are fluff in the intro, he doesn&#8217;t use them in his analysis.   He gets his real numbers from respectable sources.</p>
<p>b) The author&#8217;s claim is fairly clear at the end (the sentence bridging the last two pages)&#8211;and it&#8217;s not what ABC says.  He finds that online porn subscriptions &#8220;show remarkable consistency&#8221; across state and demographic boundaries.  His map (table 2) shows this: Minnesota and Texas are the same, New York is higher than North Carolina, Washington State is quite high&#8211;there is no red/blue divide on that map.</p>
<p>c) The author does not make any casual claim tying conservatism to porn buying.  From what I read, the argument (stated in other comments) that people in conservative places buy it online because they can&#8217;t get it in stores fits perfectly with his findings, and he offers no reason to think he&#8217;d disagree.</p>
<p>d) The issue of whether or not to control for broadband use is an important one which ABC neglects.  In the article, he discusses it, and shows two pictures&#8211;one controlling for it and one not.  By ignoring this, ABC twists the article.  For example, the ABC article says that 8 of the top 10 states voted for McCain.  That&#8217;s true, controlling for broadband use.  In a straight per capita list (which the author provides) 7 of the 10 vote for Obama.   The author remains equivocal about which list is best, since he cannot get data on what percent of broadband users get broadband in order to watch porn.</p>
<p>In other words, the article is a solid piece of research that makes no claims it can&#8217;t back up with empirical proof.  It does not put a partisan spin (or even provide data that could be honestly spun).  The problem here is that the ABC reporters (who probably don&#8217;t understand the statistical issues) cherry picked fragments of the article and strung them together into something new.</p>
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		<title>By: DADvocate</title>
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		<dc:creator>DADvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real correlation is most likely according to income. 

West Virginia's Median HH income: $36,088
Utah: $53,324 (which is above the U.S. average of $50,007)

But that's boring and doesn't push the liberal agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real correlation is most likely according to income. </p>
<p>West Virginia&#8217;s Median HH income: $36,088<br />
Utah: $53,324 (which is above the U.S. average of $50,007)</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s boring and doesn&#8217;t push the liberal agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: smitch61</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitch61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave up on ABC months ago when I watched nightline for 3 consecutive evenings and not once did they even mention John McCain... Not once. It was an Obama love fest.  ABC is a joke, and for me the most disappointing. It used to be the network of Peter Jennings and Ted Kopel to name a couple... Network has gone completely down hill and not worthy of my time.  I no longer watch anything on that network including what used to be my favorite shows. I know it may sound drastic, but it works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave up on ABC months ago when I watched nightline for 3 consecutive evenings and not once did they even mention John McCain&#8230; Not once. It was an Obama love fest.  ABC is a joke, and for me the most disappointing. It used to be the network of Peter Jennings and Ted Kopel to name a couple&#8230; Network has gone completely down hill and not worthy of my time.  I no longer watch anything on that network including what used to be my favorite shows. I know it may sound drastic, but it works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Next93</title>
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		<dc:creator>Next93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few questions:

1. What possible use is this study to anyone outside the porn industry?
2. How much money went into this study?
3. How much does Harvard cost to attend a year?
4. How much do studies like this add to the tuition costs?
5. How much government  money goes into Harvard every year, in the forms of PEL grants and research grants?
6. How much money will Harvard receive from the "stimulus" package?

I have to tell you, the idea that I spent even a second working in order to pay the government so that Harvard can do studies like this, really brightens up my day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few questions:</p>
<p>1. What possible use is this study to anyone outside the porn industry?<br />
2. How much money went into this study?<br />
3. How much does Harvard cost to attend a year?<br />
4. How much do studies like this add to the tuition costs?<br />
5. How much government  money goes into Harvard every year, in the forms of PEL grants and research grants?<br />
6. How much money will Harvard receive from the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; package?</p>
<p>I have to tell you, the idea that I spent even a second working in order to pay the government so that Harvard can do studies like this, really brightens up my day.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then conservatives would be lining up to watch those well known whores Nora O'Donnell, Chris Matthews, Keith Olberman, and David Shuster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then conservatives would be lining up to watch those well known whores Nora O&#8217;Donnell, Chris Matthews, Keith Olberman, and David Shuster.</p>
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		<title>By: mikefisk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikefisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...let me fill in some blanks.

This was in regards to consumption of pornographic materials online.  In fact, it IS entirely possible that social conservatism has something to do with it, but not in the way ABC made it out to sound.

First off, try looking for adult bookstores in particularly socially conservative areas.  They tend not to exist.  In a state like Utah, I think it would be a relatively safe assumption that the number of adult bookstores per capita is probably significantly lower than the national average, as the general population doesn't really want them there.

Secondly, there's the factor of the expectations of others.  The main appeal to online porn is anonymity; you're not having to walk out of an adult boutique carrying a brown paper bag, for instance.  In a state like Utah, where the general population is very socially conservative, porn consumers would be drawn online in greater numbers, mainly to avoid having to answer questions from their neighbors.

In short, I think the author's general premise may be right after all, but for the wrong reasons, and ABC's own little editorializing is more than likely completely off base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;let me fill in some blanks.</p>
<p>This was in regards to consumption of pornographic materials online.  In fact, it IS entirely possible that social conservatism has something to do with it, but not in the way ABC made it out to sound.</p>
<p>First off, try looking for adult bookstores in particularly socially conservative areas.  They tend not to exist.  In a state like Utah, I think it would be a relatively safe assumption that the number of adult bookstores per capita is probably significantly lower than the national average, as the general population doesn&#8217;t really want them there.</p>
<p>Secondly, there&#8217;s the factor of the expectations of others.  The main appeal to online porn is anonymity; you&#8217;re not having to walk out of an adult boutique carrying a brown paper bag, for instance.  In a state like Utah, where the general population is very socially conservative, porn consumers would be drawn online in greater numbers, mainly to avoid having to answer questions from their neighbors.</p>
<p>In short, I think the author&#8217;s general premise may be right after all, but for the wrong reasons, and ABC&#8217;s own little editorializing is more than likely completely off base.</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Otherwise, the study is simply throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks.

If you're going to look a hundreds of variabless and set overly lenient significance levels, you're going to find lots of p-values that are significant, if only from the laws of chance. If anything, the author should have set his significance level at .01.

Since many of these variable are co-correlated (i.e. not independent), the only way to sort out what are the genuinely significant correlates is to do a multiple regression analysis to identify and rank the variables.

The failure of the authors to do this represents a failure of peer-reviewer - and also enables the author to cherry pick and expound all sorts of innuendo without a basis in reality.

Which I guess is the new paradigm for our nation in this Orwellian era of Obama - until reality explosively intrudes, as history teaches us it always does in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otherwise, the study is simply throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to look a hundreds of variabless and set overly lenient significance levels, you&#8217;re going to find lots of p-values that are significant, if only from the laws of chance. If anything, the author should have set his significance level at .01.</p>
<p>Since many of these variable are co-correlated (i.e. not independent), the only way to sort out what are the genuinely significant correlates is to do a multiple regression analysis to identify and rank the variables.</p>
<p>The failure of the authors to do this represents a failure of peer-reviewer - and also enables the author to cherry pick and expound all sorts of innuendo without a basis in reality.</p>
<p>Which I guess is the new paradigm for our nation in this Orwellian era of Obama - until reality explosively intrudes, as history teaches us it always does in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Menlo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Menlo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had the money, I'd sue both ABC and this scumbag Ewen Callaway (probably himself a biggest consumer) for libel. Calling conservative states "conservatives" is a lie with clear malicious intent. 

It's common knowledge that people don't read articles anymore; they only skim the headlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had the money, I&#8217;d sue both ABC and this scumbag Ewen Callaway (probably himself a biggest consumer) for libel. Calling conservative states &#8220;conservatives&#8221; is a lie with clear malicious intent. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s common knowledge that people don&#8217;t read articles anymore; they only skim the headlines.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay_Cee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay_Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the exact same thought.</description>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And even then, the author said these things:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Controlling for broadband access, states show remarkable similarity in their subscription quantities, as shown in Table 2.

Even after holding constant income, age, and education, adult entertainment
subscriptions are most prevalent in urban areas.

The fourth column reports that in regions where more people report regularly attending religious services (per National Election Studies 2004), overall subscription rates are not statistically significantly different from subscriptions elsewhere (p = 0.848).

On the whole, these adult entertainment subscription patterns show a remarkable
consistency: all but eleven states have between two and three subscribers to this
service per thousand broadband households, and all but four have between 1.5 and 3.5. With interest in online adult entertainment relatively constant across regions, there’s little sign of a major divide.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And this bit didn't make in to ABC for some strange reason

&lt;blockquote&gt;The fifth column shows that subscriptions are more prevalent in regions with higher measures of social capital. Following the Social Capital Index developed in Putnam (2000), I obtain DDB Life Style Survey data from 1991 to 1998 on consumers in 340 metropolitan areas, and I form a social capital index based on prevalence of people donating blood, engaging in volunteer activities, or participating in community projects. In a region where 1 percent more people participate in these activities, subscriptions to the adult entertainment service are 0.09 percent more widespread.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wish I had time for more thorough debunking. But one point, I've never before seen a p value of .1 accepted as statisically significant in a scientific paper. Table 3 was totally incomprehensible, which is where most of the "findings" were drawn from.

Worse, the study principal author in the ABC inerview went far beyond the study findings in his comments, clearly showing that he had an political agenda of "hypocrisy" that he wanted to get out despite the non-cooperation of the data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even then, the author said these things:</p>
<blockquote><p>Controlling for broadband access, states show remarkable similarity in their subscription quantities, as shown in Table 2.</p>
<p>Even after holding constant income, age, and education, adult entertainment<br />
subscriptions are most prevalent in urban areas.</p>
<p>The fourth column reports that in regions where more people report regularly attending religious services (per National Election Studies 2004), overall subscription rates are not statistically significantly different from subscriptions elsewhere (p = 0.848).</p>
<p>On the whole, these adult entertainment subscription patterns show a remarkable<br />
consistency: all but eleven states have between two and three subscribers to this<br />
service per thousand broadband households, and all but four have between 1.5 and 3.5. With interest in online adult entertainment relatively constant across regions, there’s little sign of a major divide.</p></blockquote>
<p>And this bit didn&#8217;t make in to ABC for some strange reason</p>
<blockquote><p>The fifth column shows that subscriptions are more prevalent in regions with higher measures of social capital. Following the Social Capital Index developed in Putnam (2000), I obtain DDB Life Style Survey data from 1991 to 1998 on consumers in 340 metropolitan areas, and I form a social capital index based on prevalence of people donating blood, engaging in volunteer activities, or participating in community projects. In a region where 1 percent more people participate in these activities, subscriptions to the adult entertainment service are 0.09 percent more widespread.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wish I had time for more thorough debunking. But one point, I&#8217;ve never before seen a p value of .1 accepted as statisically significant in a scientific paper. Table 3 was totally incomprehensible, which is where most of the &#8220;findings&#8221; were drawn from.</p>
<p>Worse, the study principal author in the ABC inerview went far beyond the study findings in his comments, clearly showing that he had an political agenda of &#8220;hypocrisy&#8221; that he wanted to get out despite the non-cooperation of the data.</p>
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		<title>By: tricks</title>
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		<dc:creator>tricks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was that makes sense. Only because local laws in "conservative states" tend to bar or be much more restrictive towards businesses that market pornographic materials as their primary focus. If buyers can't get it locally, then of course they would need to order on line. I think left leaning states just have more liberal laws regarding XXX businesses so it's easier for customers to buy locally if they so choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was that makes sense. Only because local laws in &#8220;conservative states&#8221; tend to bar or be much more restrictive towards businesses that market pornographic materials as their primary focus. If buyers can&#8217;t get it locally, then of course they would need to order on line. I think left leaning states just have more liberal laws regarding XXX businesses so it&#8217;s easier for customers to buy locally if they so choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Tbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liberals steal it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liberals steal it.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the sexual hypocrisy of the religious/conservative has been a prominent, maybe the prominent, meme in the American literary canon.  That canon was first established by Northeastern elites and in the modern era is set by leftists in academia.  The preacher as sexual predator is pounded into American students from junior high forward.

Since religiousity informs conservative belief even for those who aren't very religious, the Left has to attack religion and the religious.  The easy way has proven to be the sexualization of the Country then it is easy to attack those who criticize that sexuality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the sexual hypocrisy of the religious/conservative has been a prominent, maybe the prominent, meme in the American literary canon.  That canon was first established by Northeastern elites and in the modern era is set by leftists in academia.  The preacher as sexual predator is pounded into American students from junior high forward.</p>
<p>Since religiousity informs conservative belief even for those who aren&#8217;t very religious, the Left has to attack religion and the religious.  The easy way has proven to be the sexualization of the Country then it is easy to attack those who criticize that sexuality.</p>
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		<title>By: johnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This from the people who spent eight years defending the presence of a serial sex assaulter in the White House.  
It would appear that ABC has concluded that a red state is, must be, monolithic in it's voting.  What if the porn consumers however represent say 51% Democrats and 49% Republicans, how many are actually conservatives and how many liberals, or for that matter apolitical ?  Or is the population of the state just one big political and identical lump ?

Just more mindless tripe from the center of American stupidity, our MSM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This from the people who spent eight years defending the presence of a serial sex assaulter in the White House.<br />
It would appear that ABC has concluded that a red state is, must be, monolithic in it&#8217;s voting.  What if the porn consumers however represent say 51% Democrats and 49% Republicans, how many are actually conservatives and how many liberals, or for that matter apolitical ?  Or is the population of the state just one big political and identical lump ?</p>
<p>Just more mindless tripe from the center of American stupidity, our MSM</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't read the study; but I can see another problem, even in highly conservative (or liberal) states, there are dense pockets of folks politically leaning differently. How in depth does the study go? If it is just the state level, that doesn't really help us.

Also, I'd be curious to look at the sales figures -- is this just magazines? Videos? Sex hotlines?

Where are the sales numbers coming from?

Maybe this could be answered by reading the study -- but I don't have the time, so I'm tossing this out to see if these are legitimate complaints or if they're answered.

It sounds like the study doesn't mean much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read the study; but I can see another problem, even in highly conservative (or liberal) states, there are dense pockets of folks politically leaning differently. How in depth does the study go? If it is just the state level, that doesn&#8217;t really help us.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;d be curious to look at the sales figures &#8212; is this just magazines? Videos? Sex hotlines?</p>
<p>Where are the sales numbers coming from?</p>
<p>Maybe this could be answered by reading the study &#8212; but I don&#8217;t have the time, so I&#8217;m tossing this out to see if these are legitimate complaints or if they&#8217;re answered.</p>
<p>It sounds like the study doesn&#8217;t mean much.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod_Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod_Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm  especially angry on this kind of MSM reporting.

Non-thinking public will construe this as "knowledge" without even analyzing the veracity and logic of the arguments.

ABC, through it's headline, clearly misinterpreted the Harvard report in question.   

Let's say that the main end-users of the porn materials are in the Red states.  Did Harvard examine the political affiliations of the porn buyers in those states?

One possible hypothesis could be this one:

"Since dems and libs don't have enough places or opportunities to express their sexual urges in Red States, they resort to porn materials for cheap releases."  [sorry...that's not my intention here]

I am  not saying that the above statement is true.  The same should undergo a standard social analysis through sampling before a formal conclusion can be made.   

But since the report did not provide elucidation to the above proposition,  I can fairly say that there's something missing in the research design of the said Harvard study.... if it's real intention aligns with the ABC's drivel.

However, the diary's hints indicate that ABC's story is inconsistent with the objective of the Harvard study.   Thus, it's another classic example of MSM 's disinformation campaign against the conservative movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m  especially angry on this kind of MSM reporting.</p>
<p>Non-thinking public will construe this as &#8220;knowledge&#8221; without even analyzing the veracity and logic of the arguments.</p>
<p>ABC, through it&#8217;s headline, clearly misinterpreted the Harvard report in question.   </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say that the main end-users of the porn materials are in the Red states.  Did Harvard examine the political affiliations of the porn buyers in those states?</p>
<p>One possible hypothesis could be this one:</p>
<p>&#8220;Since dems and libs don&#8217;t have enough places or opportunities to express their sexual urges in Red States, they resort to porn materials for cheap releases.&#8221;  [sorry...that's not my intention here]</p>
<p>I am  not saying that the above statement is true.  The same should undergo a standard social analysis through sampling before a formal conclusion can be made.   </p>
<p>But since the report did not provide elucidation to the above proposition,  I can fairly say that there&#8217;s something missing in the research design of the said Harvard study&#8230;. if it&#8217;s real intention aligns with the ABC&#8217;s drivel.</p>
<p>However, the diary&#8217;s hints indicate that ABC&#8217;s story is inconsistent with the objective of the Harvard study.   Thus, it&#8217;s another classic example of MSM &#8217;s disinformation campaign against the conservative movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barnee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree!

Another example: Yesterday, Saturday, I was listening to the 1:00 PM news on my AM radio. A study that ABC News reported on suggested that the very rich were responsible for our financial crisis because they buy large homes. The poor people that build those homes must than take out risky loans to purchase their homes...the result is the wealthy are to blame for the poorer people's bad decisions.

ABC reports this as a fact and ,unfortunately, the general public believes it to be true.

Talk about truth in lending.

Barnee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree!</p>
<p>Another example: Yesterday, Saturday, I was listening to the 1:00 PM news on my AM radio. A study that ABC News reported on suggested that the very rich were responsible for our financial crisis because they buy large homes. The poor people that build those homes must than take out risky loans to purchase their homes&#8230;the result is the wealthy are to blame for the poorer people&#8217;s bad decisions.</p>
<p>ABC reports this as a fact and ,unfortunately, the general public believes it to be true.</p>
<p>Talk about truth in lending.</p>
<p>Barnee</p>
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		<title>By: Rod_Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod_Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In conclusion:

Since the conservatives are the biggest readers of the Bible... so it's just natural that Harvard will identify the conservatives as biggest porn consumers.</description>
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<p>Since the conservatives are the biggest readers of the Bible&#8230; so it&#8217;s just natural that Harvard will identify the conservatives as biggest porn consumers.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Rod_Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's so happened that MSM standard is the same as that of the Harvard Standard.  Proof?  Obama.</description>
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