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Why should we care about justice for Zimmerman?….after all, he’s a Dem!

By: westcoastpatriette (Diary)  |  April 19th, 2012 at 09:22 AM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

What is wrong with us?  Why can’t conservatives jump on the band-wagon, follow in the footsteps of the unprincipled, hypocritical leftists and abandon Zimmerman’s cause in the name of loyalty to our party?  I mean, why should we care if he goes down in flames while being pummeled by the hatred spewing out at him from the likes of the most devout crusaders inside his own party?  What’s up with all that?

For weeks now, numerous diaries and commentaries have been published here at RedState dissecting every angle of this story.  While we know little beyond what occurred the night Zimmerman shot Martin, it has been reported that Zimmerman is a Democrat.  A Democrat!  And yet still, the overwhelming commentary here has been in defense of Zimmerman.  Most of us smell the stench of the case being used for political purposes and feel compassion for Zimmerman as he is scapegoated and lynched by the evil hatred that fuels the underbelly of the progressive movement in America.  And for that, we should feel proud.

This is what makes conservatives great.  It is what will make us triumph against the evil we are fighting.  We truly do believe in the principles we fight for and live by — principles that are timeless, colorblind and enable us to achieve excellence in everything we do.  If we were like the evil we are fighting, we would have ignored Zimmerman’s plight the moment we learned he was a Dem.  We would have gloated while we watched a man in the enemies’ camp suffer injustice and go down in flames.

But, no.  We can’t do that.  We cry out for justice for our enemy.  We see the horrors of the evil being done and we want justice to prevail and the truth to be told.  And we abhor the self-serving lies, hate-mongering bullhorns and race-baiting rabble rousers who lick their chops and drool at the chance to make headlines and a few bucks while they destroy the lives of whomever they decide to go after.

There is much debate and discussion right now about exactly how to define a conservative.  A case study on the Zimmerman story — and how conservatives came to his defense — should be considered when we define ourselves and try to explain what makes us tick.

And maybe, just maybe — when the Zimmerman case is over — we will have succeeded in rescuing many out of the enemies’ camp and seeing them run into our camp when they abandon the deceptive tactics of the leftists once and for all.

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  • http://www.rightspeak.net/search/label/-Right%20Wingnut rightwingnut2

    …to further their cause, even if it requires throwing one of their own under the bus.

    Also, If his last name were Lopez, rather than Zimmerman, we would have never heard a word about this case.

  • gekster

    :)

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    Good job.

  • Scope

    That conservatives stand up for justice, truth, the rule of law, and that it doesn’t matter what party you are from, or what color your skin is.

    I’ve read an interesting article at Breitbart’s Big Journalism site, which begins to connect the dots of the involvement of the Obama/Holder DOJ in the Zimmerman Martin case. I do not doubt the truthfullness of this report. I’ve wondered if this secretive group of people aren’t the “Interpol” police that Obama, through an executive order, gave complete immunity to in order to operate in the US “wherever and whenever conflicts occur.”

    One of the areas of the Probable Cause Affidavit, filed by SP Angela Cory, that seems to be causing a lot of heartburn to even liberal legal people, and there are many, is the completely unsubstantiated accusation that Zimmerman racially profiled Martin. At the same time, the special ivestigators who swore to and signed the document, attested to the fact that Zimmerman said “punks” and not the racial slur that has been reported by the media. Reading the opinion of a liberal lawyer, she claimed that once the investigators swore that Zimmerman did not use a racial slur, they gave up on their chances for a federal hate crime lawsuit, no matter how anyone else interprets the word used.

    With the fact that the Fast and Furious scandal is still left swinging in the breeze, I have no doubt Holder would manufacture, or even worse, hide the truth behind the evidence in this case. Even if Zimmerman is in fact innocent, and was in fact acting in self defense, his freedom can be sacrificed just as easily as Brian Terry’s life was sacrificed with the Fast and Furious federal government manufactured tragedy.

    From what I’m reading, in the next few days more facts about the Zimmerman Martin issue will be released. I get the feeling that the “star witness” for Martin’s parents attorney Crump, the girlfriend DeeDee, who has never been seen, never came forward on her own, only responded after Martin’s father called her, and initially refused to testify, as attested to by Atty Gen Bondi, is going to be at the heart of the new evidence. Remember, Corey relied on her story almost solely in arresting Zimmerman. She is even mentioned in the Probable Cause Affidavit.

  • westcoastpatriette

    We have to come to terms with the fact that we have hoodlums in charge of the U.S. Dept. of Justice right now — and watch every move they make and expose all the corruption we see.

    One thing that comforts me is that Zimmerman’s father is a retired magistrate although I do not know in what area of law he served. Also, after Zimmerman’s first attorneys came out and spoke about Zimmerman publicly (in a disparaging light) Kimberly Garfoyle made clear that she took that episode as a sign that Zimmerman was firing them and finding other counsel and that was why Zimmerman had stopped communicating with them. Hopefully, his father has good connections and helped his son get a dynamite attorney to fight back.

    Let’s hope this all backfires in the faces of the bad guys.

  • Common_Cents

    Yes, the left has tried GZ in the press, trying to make racial political points and feed the flames of division all for an election. There is a need to tamp that down, but there isn’t much of a reason to defend GZ when nobody knows the facts. Hannity is coming across as trying to be his defense attorney, rather than just smacking the left for their bias, and remaining neutral on the facts for justice.

  • Scope

    for Zimmerman, I’ve read just in the last day or so that what was shown of their seemingly strange presser, was only the section where they seem to throw Zimmerman under the bus. I understand the presser lasted for 45 minutes, and that they in fact did slam the media for their lynching, and they did make references to this secretive group that showed up in Sanford after the incident. I’ve also read that Mark O’Mara may not have Zimmerman’s best interest at heart. I don’t know what to believe.

    I saw a clip of the weasel Gov. Scott announcing his 14 panel task force to review the SYG laws, “as well as all of the Fla. gun laws on the books” today. Read that carefully, all of Fla. gun laws on the books. Meghan Kelly, who supposedly was an attorney, said that the SYG review can have an affect on the Zimmerman Martin case. So, will you please tell me how laws can be changed, mid-course, when someone has the opportunity to benefit from a particular law, that was in full force and effect at the time of the incident? Can the government now come up with new laws in order to affect a particular outcome they desire?

    Sharpton is doing his work in Fla, and is using the Zimmerman Martin case as his push for the liberals dream of gun control. I wonder if Sharpton and Crump are tossing a coin to see who heads this task force.

    There is another story today that Jesse Jackson has moved on to OK, in light of the 2 white guys that shot 3 black guys, with his push to challenge the OK gun laws on the books. Apparently OK also has SYG laws on the books, even though the 2 white guys have no self defense claims.

    Do you notice that these challenges are taking place where ever there has been a white, or half white, on black crime has taken place.

    Then move on to the case of the black lady that shot and killed a white mom of a 3 day old, and then kidnapped her 3 day old baby. Gee, I wonder if Sharpton, Jackson or Holder will rush to the defense of the white mother that was gunned down by a black lady.

    Anyone who cares about the constitution, and second amendment gun rights, should be paying very close attention to this gun control push by the liberals all the way up to Obama and Holder. In order for the government to gain complete control and power over the population, they must must remove guns from society as much as possible.

  • Scope

    You can’t get it any better than straight from the <a href="http://www.therightscoop.com/jesse-jackson-admits-using-trayvon-tragedy-for-anti-gun-agenda/ Horse's Mouth so to speak.

    As I’ve posted elsewhere Jackson has moved on from Fla. and is now hitting Oklahoma hard to push for his, Sharpton and Holder’s anti-gun agenda.

    Let Jesse Jackson himself tell you how he and the DOJ will make sacrifices of citizens who are innocent until proven guilty, no matter what it takes to do so. Watch for the next media firestorm to come out of Oklahoma, in which some have already indicated that all of the citizens in that state are racists.

    This is not only an anti-gun movement, it will serve two purposes, with the call for race warfare already coming out of the Obama administration. Like Jackson said, it is the perfect storm to fit the liberal agenda.

  • xymbaline

    you’d find it pretty straightforward.

    Sanford itself is expanding very little. The City Fathers have had an informal No Growth policy there for many years, and the the north side is bordered by a large lake that limits any growth in that direction.

    Most of the actual expansion has occured to the South and West. Little burgs like Lake Mary have become extremely yuppie, and *very* wealthy places like Heathrow have come from nowhere.

    Sanford has lost much of its productive base, and much of Sanford is now a ‘hood’ where 20 years ago it was mostly what many people call ‘redneck’.

    Within a few miles in many directions is a mix of ultra-rich, very poor, redneck, manufacturing and yuppie.

    Most neighborhoods have drawn in tightly, usually to protect themselves against people right next to them who are very different in class and style.

    Neighborhood Watchs are common. It is so easy for people to slip from one area into another that crimes happen quickly and silently. The police cannot react fast enough, so people have learned to watch for themselves.

    The neighborhood in question is not one of the upscale ones. Recently, its had a large number of robberies, a spree of a sort, and awareness was high and people were watching out for each other.

    Trayvon was walking between houses, peering into windows, exactly what scouts do when they’re casing homes for vulnerabilities. If it had been a neighborhood kid taking a short cut, nothing would have happened. Instead, a strange, tall kid with gold teeth and a hood was walking through people’s yards, looking into windows. This is exactly what Neighborhood Watch people look for, so for Zimmerman to call in and report it was prudent.

    The local paper, the Orlando Sentinel, published a map of the area and traced Martin’s path during the experience. Frankly, it’s not the path of someone walking back innocently from the 7-11 to the house where he was staying.

    Since I wasn’t there to see what happened, I won’t comment further except to say that I find Zimmerman’s account seems most likely.

  • westcoastpatriette

    to that article in the Orlando Sentinel? That is very interesting detail that adds more credible evidence to Zimmerman’s version of events.

  • gekster

    In the Orlando Sentinal, I got this:
    0 search results for article_path (-) treyvon (-) martin (-) walked (-)

    No Results Found

    Chnging the words, I got:
    0 search results for article_path (-) walked (-) by (-) treyvon (-) martin (-)

    No Results Found

  • Scope

    to the Zimmerman Martin case It is very long and chock full of details and analysis. The author of the site has been following the case for quite a while. There are other articles written there with similar information like that was included in my link to the Breitbart article. This article includes a map of the area in the complex where the incident took place. Be prepared to spend some time reading if you are interested. It’s fascinating info.

  • xymbaline

    http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2012/04/orlando-sentinel-provides-non.html

    It provides the link to the Sentinel page as well.

    It would help you that aren’t in the area to know that the Orlando Sentinel has become a Southern New York Times. They first published the map as a news item. As the author in the above article notes, it engendered a long list of comments from people who know the area, were in law enforcement, and who described pretty much what I was also describing.

    So the Sentinel scrubbed the map and left only a couple of comments on it, one calling Zimmerman ‘tubbo’ and claiming that the tubby black guy ran down the teenage athlete from behind, and Martin chased Zimmerman down and beat him up before dying. Just a paraphrase, you can read it for yourself.

  • westcoastpatriette

    I thought about doing it myself as soon as I asked the question but thought if xymbaline had it at his fingertips, I would just ask him for it.

    Let’s see if he comes back and gives us a link.

  • demsaresatanic

    “what is wrong with us?”
    What is wrong with us is that our so-called leaders have indeed “follow(ed) in the footsteps of the unprincipled, hypocritical leftists and abandon(ed) Zimmerman

  • xymbaline

    orlando sentinel trayvon martin map

    you’d have found it.

  • gekster

    holding my breatt until I pass out.

  • Scope

    Did I really hear her suggesting to O’Reilly that the NRA should go after black support for the group so that they can protect themselves from the KKK type groups? Please tell me I misunderstood. This was in relation to the Zimmerman Martin case.

  • clintonformccain

    she’s one of the talking heads that sends me diving for the remote. Heck, I’d even watch CNN instead of her if I had too. Fortunately I have a skip button on my remote, so it doesn’t come to that. I just skip her into oblivion, the same way I do the Buy Gold ads.

  • Argentum

    I feel the same way about Hannity.

  • checkmate2012

    relevancy in conservative circles IMO. Luckily I missed that as would have lost my cookies! I hope she takes incoming from all sides if she did say that over the top remark.

  • westcoastpatriette

    it would take quite some time to wade through all of the info in that link. I made it just about a third of the way through, though, and already I am seeing what’s probably behind all of this even more than racism and it is the love of money. In order for Trayson’s parents to sue for damages, an arrest has to be made — not necessarily a conviction. This explains why Trayvon’s mother said she believed the shooting was an accident. Deep down, they probably know that Zimmerman’s story is true but in order to sue everyone they can think of — and this is pursuant to the SYG law — an arrest has to be made.

  • xymbaline

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-gfx-trayvon-martin-sanford-shooting-20120313,0,5710580.graphic

  • westcoastpatriette

    Prosecutors did not want him given bail. Zimmerman’s attorney also requested that Zimmerman be allowed to remain out of state for his safety and the judge will allow if Fla. authorities are able to coordinate including having Zimmerman wear GPS bracelet.

  • westcoastpatriette

    it’s always interesting to hear from locals following case like this one.

  • Scope

    is one of the media outlets who have joined in with a lawsuit to get George Zimmerman’s documents unseald. That is happening all while Trayvon Martin’s school records, full initial police investigations reports, and the coroner’s report are under seal as requested by the Martin parent’s attorney.

  • celador2

    I have not posted on Zimmerman at RS and only one time somewhere else as I have seen far too facts in a critical time period of about a minute or two. Zimmerman is relevant for reasons of due process for all parties and for the fallout issue.

    Also on trial are the ‘stand your ground’ gun laws nationwide. If media and DNC have their way then gun rights will have had a set back with the Zmmerman case , just watch.

    Sen Feinstein has already planned to hold up the Demint national reciprocity law in Senate.

  • Tbone

    who think its right to try Zimmerman just to appease the lynch mob who will comment on the Zimmerman bloody head photos? Anyone?

  • westcoastpatriette

    nadatext

  • powertothepeople

    I have had many an argument in the last few weeks as to this issue and their belief that the courtroom is the place to prove Zimmerman innocent even though that goes against the whole innocent till proven guilty thing, and some who feel with what very little they know about the whole thing, they are still sure there was probable cause even though none existed till the racist Sharpton types and black panther types threatened harm.

  • Scope

    I watched the bond hearing today, other than what I missed on commercial breaks. One thing I am now certain of is that Mark O’Mara will be a formidable force in his defense of GZ. Cool headed, sharp, capable, calm, and on top of every dotted i and crossed t.

    What was amazing was that when one of the lead detectives, working with SP Corey was on the witness stand, he so completely botched the state’s case, much much more so than the Sanford Police Dept. was accused of.

    He admitted he has no evidence to prove that Zimmerman confronted Martin.

    He admitted that he has no evidence that GZ didn’t in fact turn and walk back toward his truck when the dispatched said “we don’t need you to do that.”

    He admitted that he had never seen the GZ medical report, O’Mara provided him with a copy of it.

    He answered one way to O’Mara, and another way to cross from the prosecutor. Perjury?

    O’Mara- Calm cool, collected and competent.

    Prosecutor- Aggressive, confrontation, bullying, and angry.

    Malicious Prosecution, my big bet.

  • jakeofalltrades

    We like the idea of a trial by jury to set the matter to rest. At the same time, arresting the victim who saved himself from being beaten to death by killing the assailant – when the self-defense evidence is strong – is unconstitutional and immoral.

  • Tbone

    other side must really be a cesspool.

    That prosecutor and the laying SOB on the affidavit are the ones who should be in jail.

    Scott Walker should be held in high contempt for appointing that worthless, biased piece of crap.

  • westcoastpatriette

    in a case like this one — where the evidence is so clearly supporting Zimmerman’s version of events — doesn’t an attorney jeopardize his own reputation and integrity by discounting the obvious evidence in favor of “allowing” a jury to decide?

  • westcoastpatriette

    I watched part of it and was really impressed with how well Zimmerman maintained his composure. And was thrilled when the judge granted such low bail — a sign that the judge is not impressed with the case, either. I am predicting the charges are dropped completely in the near future.

    Don’t know if you saw my above post to you where I told you I spent some time at the link you provided. I am convinced now the main purpose of this charade is so that Martin’s family can sue for damages as the SYG law states that one may not sue for civil damages unless charges have been filed — but there does not have to be a conviction. So, the Martin’s are satisfied that even if the charges are dropped they are now free to bring civil charges against every deep pocket they can get their hands on.

    What a sad joke.

  • renny

    where the Harvard lawyer slams the FL prosecutor for withholding data and ignoring physical evidence of Zimmerman’s injuries.

    I don’t know the law professor’s mind, but he has become very anti-left in hts stance regarding the o admin. and Israel and now opposes the PC version of the Trayvon Martin murder case, so maybe he is ripe for conversion to the true and right side,

  • jakeofalltrades

    to believe they committed the offense.

    If probable cause is debatable, then prosecutors can throw it out there and see if the judge and jury buy it. The prosecutor’s interest is protecting the best interests of society and the Constitution they swore to uphold – in the manner that, in their discretion, they think best.

    Where this prosecutor is screwing up is in failing in her ethical duty to be candid with the court. It seems she withheld information about the severity of Zimmerman’s defensive wounds in an affidavit. That’s where the ethics problems are really going to happen here, as Dershowitz said today.

  • westcoastpatriette

    a bizarre move to the right coming from Dershowitz. First time in my life I found myself agreeing with him when he spoke out about the sloppy Zimmerman affidavit. But that’s how outrageous this case has become. People are acting stupidly to satisfy the most radical race-baiters in the nation.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    but, like Lieberman, he at least perceives some of the people who used to be his allies as the enemies they always were.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Besides, in a wrongful death action, you have to prove the death was actually wrongful.

  • westcoastpatriette

    How about the taxpayers pockets when they sue the government officials involved?

  • jakeofalltrades

    The police have no duty to protect anyone.

  • westcoastpatriette

    they could sue for civil rights violations (son was racially profiled and prejudice contributed to the DA’s failure to press charges immediately), they could go after the owner and insurance company of the gated community for allowing someone like Zimmerman to be a neighborhood watch volunteer or maybe the lighting was not sufficient and made the community unsafe… who knows? Juries have awarded for outlandish charges before so what’s to stop them this time?

  • jakeofalltrades

    They weren’t involved at all. And it would never see a jury because it wouldn’t get past the pleading stage – you need the victim to at least be alive at the time the cops begin interacting with him.

  • garfieldjl

    Seriously, he doesn’t care about following the rule of law, let alone ethics.

  • westcoastpatriette

    :)

  • Scope

    Are you saying that the case brought had nothing to do with the original police investigation? If that is what you are implying, I would surely agree. Once it moved to the SP, any police, or investigators reports were thrown out as though it never existed.

  • Scope

    GZ’s lawyer will hopefully request an Immunity hearing. That Immunity hearing would be before the judge “alone” and no jury would be seated for that hearing. In that hearing GZ’s lawyer can bring witnesses and any other evidence he has to prove self defense, the state can do the same. It is a mini-hearing without a jury. The judge rules in that hearing on the preponderance of the evidence. GZ will have to prove that he acted in self defense, but, he will not have to prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt, it is judged on the preponderance of the evidence.

    If GZ wins in a Immunity hearing, he is no longer responsible for any criminal or civil charges. The prosecution can appeal that ruling, and GZ would have to win on appeal also. If Zimmerman wins on appeal, he is completely exonerated.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if jake, as an attorney, gave more lengthy explanations, covering how it would cover both the defendant, and the state case, rather than a drip here, and a drip there.

    Come on Jake. Coyness in this case is why the case is where it is.

  • Scope

    Remember the Martin parents, as well as the lawyer Crump saying that they needed an arrest. Sabrina Fulton said after the arrest, thank you God, thank you Jesus, all we wanted was an arrest, nothing more, nothing less. Why would Sabrina just concentrate on an arrest, and have no desire for a conviction? As Crump said, the arrest was only the first step in the process, but they needed to get beyond the next step, which would be an Immunity hearing. If GZ doesn’t win the Immunity hearing, and it goes to trial, GZ will in fact be eligible for a civil lawsuit by the Martin parents.

    Did you see the pictures of them so angry it isn’t funny because GZ was released on bond? They probably also heard the states case collapse today.

  • carolina

    I think you mean Gov Scott of FL, instead of Gov Scott Walker of WI

  • aesthete

    Just because he’s a crap-weasel doesn’t mean that he’s 100% wrong about everything – stopped clocks and all that.

    Also, I think you meant Rick Scott, not Walker.

  • westcoastpatriette

    but my understanding was that all that was necessary for someone to bring civil suit in a self-defense case was that charges be filed. So, what I am saying is that the requirement to meet that standard has been met since Zimmerman has been charged clearing the way for the Martin’s to sue civilly whether Zimmerman is convicted or not. But, I could be wrong on that so I will shut up.

  • westcoastpatriette

    Sometimes I have to spew and it suddenly dawned on me the irony of how different we are from leftists. We operate by principle not class and race bias. And it actually makes life a lot easier for us because we don’t have to worry about catering to or offending all the sub-classes the Dems constantly harp about. Consistent principles transcend all that.

  • wilgolden

    The right pronounces the word “justice.”

    The left prononces it “Just Us!”

    Anyone wanna make odds on whether Mr. Zimmerman changes his voter registration when the smoke all clears?

  • westcoastpatriette

    it’s natural to want to defend someone who is being unfairly portrayed by the leftist controlled media who have a louder bullhorn. If it weren’t for the conservatives demanding full disclosure of the whole story, Zimmerman’s account would never be known.

  • glockg22shoots40s

    … but more to defend his (our) right to carry and defend himself… the lefty loons will use this incident to promote stronger gun laws and remove more of our rights under the constitution…

  • glockg22shoots40s

    … on Coulter, I used to think she was a true consservative… some of her narrative lately gives conservatives a bad name… I think she is losing her mind…

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    I was excoriated here on Redstate for posting something uncomplimentary about Ann.

    And the real funny part is that what I was protesting (her viciousness)
    is not even a concern to me anymore. After all the crap the left have done and said. I really don’t care if she is angry and vituperative all the time.

    But I never did have much esteem for her, She always just struck me as someone who said outrageous things just in time to hawk a new book.

  • duramater

    and Trayvon Martin requires a moral society with a sense of decency.

    Trayvon Martin’s family, by and through their attorney, Benjamin Crump, rejected the expression of condolence issued by George Zimmerman during his bail hearing this week. Sadly, their grieving process has stalled in anger and denial and seemingly has devolved into a mindless vengeance, fueled by their attorney and his acolytes. Will time ever grant these parents the grace and strength to consider the factors which really cost them their son’s life?
    During their altercation, anyone of the blows sustained or about to be sustained by Mr. Zimmerman at the hands of Mr. Martin had the potential to render him unconscious. Mr. Zimmerman’s legally registered firearm would then have been available to Mr. Martin. Given the ferocity of Martin’s attack, there is every reasonable expectation that he would have used this weapon on Mr. Zimmerman.
    Based upon their public assertions, this outcome would have been more acceptable to the parents, race hustling lawyers, anti-gun zealots and cowardly politicians* who have gone on public record to condemn Mr. Zimmerman for defending himself during the “struggle”. (*the references are too numerous to list)
    Publishing the pre-adolescent pictures of Trayvon , showing a very photogenic boy, represents more than the sinister marketing tools of the grievance mongering ambulance chaser, Crump and his clients. It also represents the image of Trayvon Martin to which his parents still cling. What they are yet incapable of acknowledging, however, is that that “child” was not killed by George Zimmerman, but was rather the victim of “No_Limit_N***r ” and the perverse social pathology that spawned his identity.
    All the hopes and dreams they may once have held for their son were, in fact, the victim of a culture where gangster rap, vulgarity, drugs and violence are deemed “typical” and an acceptable norm. Young Trayvon’s body had already been desecrated with indelible branding and his identity poisoned long before he ever met Mr. Zimmerman. Yet, a newspaper journalist proclaimed that the latest, more incriminating picture and verified twitter communiqu

  • duramater

    grrrr, cannot get in to edit/ reinstate paragraphs. Apologies for tough reading.

  • betheljcovel

    I live near Sanford. I loved the post and comments.

    I learned a lot.

  • westcoastpatriette

    and imagine how threatened he must feel seeing how he is being used as a pawn by various deviant groups. I believe that he was not just acting in self-defense, but that the attack by Martin occurred while Zimmerman was trying to be a good Samaritan by protecting his neighborhood from further burglaries.

    I can personally relate because I am the kind of person who will intervene to prevent evil if at all possible, rather than close my eyes and ignore danger to myself or to others. I truly hope if I am right, the system will work — in spite of all the whoremongers out for Z’s blood — and he will be completely exonerated.

    I do not expect Martin’s parents or the other blacks who are screaming racism to ever accept the fact that Martin was the criminal aggressor and brought his fate on himself. But that is their problem.

  • greyeagle

    A Democratic state congressman from South Florida is going to try and get SYG changed. Governor Scott is looking into the gun laws, but don’t think he will do anything if he wants to be re-elected. The Lt. Governor is a black conservative Republican and she is the Committee Chairwoman. The author of the bill for SYG is also on the committee. Hopefully, this will all die down.

  • westcoastpatriette

    that’s good to hear. I am sure you have an interesting viewpoint since you live where all the action is.

  • duramater

    many are praying for your community, its residents and businesses and leaders.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    it might be he was one of those self righteous bastards who feels all brave with a gun in his hand and provoked a situation that got out of his control. I actually think my scenario is more likely. Maybe that is just my cynicism or because I have met plenty such people.

    Either way, we just don’t know, and he deserves his day in court.

  • westcoastpatriette

    I was encouraged when I watched the bail hearing last week. Looks like the judge in the case is not one to be intimidated by public pressure. Also, Zimmerman’s attorney looks on top of things and Zimmerman himself maintained his composure throughout the humiliating procedure.

  • duramater

    The complete statutes explain that it will be Zimmerman who will be compensated if he has been wrongfully charged and arrested. And no criminal OR civil actions can be taken against him adter that. Can’t remember exact statutes now but I think it is contained between FS 776.012 and 776.041.

    Of course that is among the REAL reasons these folks are howling over the law as written.

  • duramater

    entry. I found the 2+ hour video of the bond hearing Saturday and watched after the fact. I agree that Mr. Zimmerman presented himself well. My heart goes out to him and his family. Attny O’Mara did well , too. Liked his handling of the investigator. Boy, talk about inconsistent testimony. Prosecutor came across as trying to compensate for poor case with sheer bombast.

    I’ve read a variety of websites where the murderous vitriol and threats against Mr. Zimmerman’s well-being in or out of jail, found guilty or innocent are simply jaw dropping. While some would discount it as “just blog talk”, all it takes is one fiendishly savage person to act out the boasted “plans” of these online thugs.

    The judge who hears the Immunity Hearing for Zimmerman’s affirmative defense (I’ve read that it is to be a different judge from Lester?) will hopefully realize that regardless of his or her ruling, there are those who are “looking forward to getting several new pairs of shoes and TV sets” during the staged riots afterwards.

    I further pray that the judge realizes that the monetary cost of riot control and repair to damaged property is far less expensive than the cost to this nation’s founding principles if Zimmerman is not exonerated in the Immunity hearing.

  • greyeagle

    Oklahoma will likely toss him out of the state.