I am in the middle of a big company re-org and I cannot dedicate the time I would like to dedicate to RedState. But I do come back and post every now and then and lately, I have seen a lot of interest in McCain nominating a woman VP to (quote) “get the woman’s vote” or to “get Hillary’s disheartened supporters.” And especially has the talk turned to Sarah Palin — a Republican I personally like but who is less than a one-term governor of a state with a population of less than the neighborhood I grew up in and who is currently embroiled in a possible scandal involving her former brother-in-law.
I’m for Sarah Palin in 2016 (or possibly even 2012 if McCain fails) but definitely not now.
If we Republicans, if we conservatives, say we disapprove of identity politics and voting for someone because it is “their genders or ethnic group’s time,” then let’s stop suggesting candidates for that reason. Quite frankly, such rhetoric and thinking smacks of nothing more than identity politics and hypocrisy on our side. And personally, I thought as a matter of principle we were against that.
And unless you think I am a chauvinist and/or somehow picking on Sarah Palin, please search for my old comments on JC Watts, a Black conservative I like but who I also do not think would be good for the ticket this year.
Voting for Barack Obama because RedState — yes, RedState! — convinced me that experience does not matter but identity politics does!
I agree zoot
kyle8 Monday, August 25th at 6:34AM EDT (link)However, I am starting to realize that there are a whole host of pathologies which have invaded the conservative movement, and this is only one of them.
We have become a whole lot more like the left wingers than I ever thought possible.
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Inadvertent Racial Politics
Strelnikov Monday, August 25th at 6:58AM EDT (link)Mr. Suit is quite correct: I believe in all the theoretical tactical maneuvering on how to defeat Obama, one can be sucked in by such calculations, and suddenly, yes, you are sounding like a left-wing identity-racialist politician.
I once had discussions about a “cognitive dissonance” Republican ticket with Colin Powell/Condi Rice or Condi Rice/J.C. Watts (or Alan Keyes, one of my favorites until he dived into the crowd like Jack Black in “School of Rock”). The whole point of those discussions, however, was not that the candidates were particularly suitable, but that they would infect the Democrats with political epilepsy.
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RedState is not all bizarro
pilgrim Monday, August 25th at 7:05AM EDT (link)So many diaries are posted that it is difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. I can recommend two diaries for you to read that are more along the lines you expect to read when you drop by. Here are the links:
The Case for Chris Cox as McCain’s VP
Rush to Reaganism for Grand New Party Comeback
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ZootSuit Monday, August 25th at 7:34AM EDT (link)For the record, Chris Cox is probably second on my list. In fact, I may move him up to #1 because of the weak performance of Mark Sanford a few weeks ago.
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Uma Richie Monday, August 25th at 7:39AM EDT (link)who voted for Lynn Swann for PA Gov in 2006, I think my identity politics only go as far as value, party and issue identification.
I presume most of the silent readers/lurkers feel the same way.
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Idenity politics would mean a pro-choice, feminist ideologue.
streetwise Monday, August 25th at 8:02AM EDT (link)The RIGHT woman would have none of it.
I disagree with you
Oz Monday, August 25th at 8:09AM EDT (link)Considering a woman to appeal to women is no different then considering a Midwesterner to appeal to Midwesterners.
The caveat is that they need to still be qualified and really only Sarah Palin fits that bill of the women.
Right!
Strelnikov Monday, August 25th at 8:13AM EDT (link)As far as the Left is concerned, the Right woman would not be right!
We need a take-no-prisoners warrior princess type:
So where is Lucy Lawless aka Xena these days?
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Left, Right, Middle all sick
wennejunk Monday, August 25th at 8:22AM EDT (link)Kyle,
Its possible we conservatives are more like the left-wingers due to the infection of moderates in our midst (smile).
However, I think pretty much anyone can make the argument that lefties, righties and moderates have their own particulars that they get passionate about that alienate the others.
To any one group, the other two will obviously have their priorities out of whack.
To the purists in any one group, the pragmatics will be hypocrites.
To the pragmatics the purists will be out of touch due to not-compromising towards achieving the larger goals.
And to the hard left/right, the moderates are squishes who have a weak moral compass, the “lukewarm” of the political world, so to speak.
I’m a purist at heart and pragmatic with my actions. I accept that the option available in McCain and whomever he chooses was not even my third choice coming into the campaign.
However, to me keeping the country from a sharp turn left is far, far, more important at the moment than pushing it to the right or ideological purity.
If that means slipping into identity politics to win: so be it - as long as the identity we choose for VP has what it takes to run this country should he/she/it have to.
McCain should at least be good for keeping us at the status quo. With good fortune, knowing that the office often transforms, we may even be pleasantly surprised with his administration.
I am betting we will have to fight long and hard on some issues just to hold the line.
On uncompromising purists, I am reminded of a poem I once read:
He was right, dead right as he sped along; but he’s just as dead as if he’d been wrong!
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Isn't the VP choice always mostly about politics?
bk Monday, August 25th at 8:24AM EDT (link)Wennejunk, I was not referring to that,
kyle8 Monday, August 25th at 8:35AM EDT (link)far right, right of center, moderate right, etc. I have no problem with people having different perspectives.
What I was referring to was the following things which in the past were best connected with the left wing:
(1)Identity politics
(2)Big Governmentalism (even in pursuit of so called conservative goals)
(3)Hate, Anger, and demonization of political foes, complete with knee jerk attacks at your own side if they dare utter a word of caution or a contrary opinion
(4)Idealism, bordering on fanaticism especially in regards to foreign policy
(5) Satisfaction with attempts by government to suppress individual rights
And If you point any of these things out with specifics you are dragged into endless arguments about those specifics while the overall trend is never addressed.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Exactly
bk Monday, August 25th at 9:00AM EDT (link)Remember when all those liberal women were elected in the “Year of the Woman”? Then as I recall Kay Bailey Hutchison was elected in the next cycle and was trashed by some of those same women on the floor.
Okay then, using your logic
ZootSuit Monday, August 25th at 9:13AM EDT (link)Considering a Black person to appeal to black people is no different than considering a Midwesterner to appeal to Midwesterners.
In that case, I’m:
Voting for Barack Obama because RedState — yes, RedState! — convinced me that experience does not matter but identity politics does!
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Good, I wasn't the only one worried about last night
Brian Simpson Monday, August 25th at 9:22AM EDT (link)This whole push to put up a female or a Latino was disconcerting.
I’d rather put up the best person regardless of their age, sex, race, hair color, etc.
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Identity politics means considering a person because of their gender (or race) when they otherwise would not be
ZootSuit Monday, August 25th at 9:22AM EDT (link)Be honest. Despite her many good qualities, a less than one-term governor of a state with a population of less than the neighborhoods many of us grew up in (and who may now be involved in a bit of a scandal that, although I don’t think will ultimately harm her in her home state, would be the talk of the campaign if she were nominated) would not even be considered as McCain’s VP if she were not a “she”.
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I am not convinced Palin is the RIGHT woman, but
streetwise Monday, August 25th at 9:26AM EDT (link)am open to being convinced.
I agree with you that gender should not drive the pick. But if that RIGHT woman exists, I say go for it!
You don't seem to be making a distinction
Shaggy_Dog Monday, August 25th at 9:35AM EDT (link)between hypothetically taking someone who isn’t among the best qualified and nominating them just because they are black/woman/midwesterner/whatever, vs. getting a shortlist of say 3-5 equally well qualified candidates, and perhaps if one of them happened to be a woman, maybe that is the deciding factor.
Here’s an example- if Palin was a successful 2 term governor and as a result was equal in her qualifications and accomplishments to Pawlenty and Sanford, but of the three relatively eqaully qualified candidates, McCain picked Palin to help win more votes with women, I see no problem with that.
Why Are You convinced
Swamp_Yankee Monday, August 25th at 9:37AM EDT (link)I like her a lot, but I just dont see how two years as Governor of Alaska makes all that qualified. For example, is she really prepared to deal with the Russian/Georgian conflict. Can she handle the Washington press core?
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agreed, but - more later after court
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Guess what, ShaggyDog? I agree!
ZootSuit Monday, August 25th at 10:05AM EDT (link)I have even said above that will be great in 2016 or even 2012. But right now, she is not “a successful 2 term governor and as a result was equal in her qualifications and accomplishments to Pawlenty and Sanford.”
She may be and I even expect in the her to be in a few years but right now, Sarah Palin is a not quite one-term governor of a very small state (population-wise) who may be embroiled in a (even if true, IMHO, relatively minor) scandal.
Sorry, but right now Sarah Palin is only on the list because of her gender and right now I do not think she is qualified to be McCain’s VP.
But again, the future is a different story.
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We need a Cuban-born Black Gay woman, with a Mexican last name
$peciallist Monday, August 25th at 10:40AM EDT (link)We need to reach out to the Cubblagaywomicans…they can learn on the job…
geez…you can’t go to a 7-11 without having a Cubblagaywomican Accent
A high-paying society divorce, I hope? :>)
streetwise Monday, August 25th at 10:48AM EDT (link)nt
Can we all agree that Palin has more experience than Obama?
spainishirish Monday, August 25th at 10:56AM EDT (link)His 124 days in the Senate and brief statehouse stint hardly equate to two years of executive experience.
This is how the left keeps the country inexorably moving in their direction...
AceInTX Monday, August 25th at 11:27AM EDT (link)Because the moderates in this Party continuously insist that we “Slip into” one leftist position after another to win. but somehow…we never win…oh sure we win elections…but when has any Conservative position gained ground in this country…
If the issue is the growth of government we always lose…because to many in this party equates less growth in government as Conservatism…instead of realizing that 0 growth of government or a shrinking of government should be the goal…If the Dems want to increase spending $100,000,000,000 and Conservatives manage to hold them to $50,000,000,000 in inc reased spending…the moderates trumpet it as a
victory for Conservatives…but it’s not…it’s a $50,000,000,000 loss. A draw would be $0 growth…a victory would ba a $1 reduction in spending…which has never happened in history.
We need to rethink out politics…and stop compromising because we are losing this county and everything that’s made it stand out amongst all the other countries of the world as the “Last best hope of manking on Earth.”
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AceInTX Monday, August 25th at 11:34AM EDT (link)Sorry for the threadjack…but the above demanded a reply.
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AceInTX Monday, August 25th at 11:40AM EDT (link)Can’t argue with that one bit!
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Women with Executive Experience
Strelnikov Monday, August 25th at 11:58AM EDT (link)The above argument about Sarah Palin is correct: a woman with executive experience would be nice.
This is why Carly Fiorina’s name was batted around, except that she has too much baggage, (and not just around the eyes).
Ultimately, since governors have the most executive experience, they have historically had the advantage over senators and representatives. But since there are more women at the top of business right now than in a governor’s mansion, it might make sense to check the business world.
But all of this begs the question: is she the absolute best potential President of the United States?
Experience - up to a point - does not necessarily make a great president: Bush ‘42 had the best resume in a century, and we know what happened to him.
Character counts along with creativity and experience: let’s pick the best “person” as a potential president, and leave everything else alone.
As of November 4, 2008, the Code Words will be: “Klaatu - Borada - Nikto!”
a dui in which my client did not collide
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, August 25th at 12:29PM EDT (link)with any other vehicle. Cop admits he followed from a distance for a few miles.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what is the best evidence of one being “under the influence” of alcohol and what is the main skill of a driver?
The latter: don’t hit other objects or humans (pigeons and humans have an agreement they will get out of the way so we don’t have to slow down.)
The former: hitting other objects
Not Guilty
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Palin is a great speaker . . . a great communicator
JSobieski Monday, August 25th at 12:38PM EDT (link)We don’t have many people who are both (1) motivated primarily by conservative ideology; and (2) great an engaging in public debate.
Polin would destroy Biden.
Palin has virtually zero "real" experience.
mbecker908 Monday, August 25th at 12:56PM EDT (link)And yes, it’s more than BO has. But she also has an unresolved, quite nasty, ethics investigation going on. She’ll probably come away clean, but she’s not now. Why would you want to give the media a perfect excuse to never address BO’s ethics, Rezko, Ayers, etc?
And, as far as cleaning up on Biden, any reasonably competent third grade debate team could clean his clock.
Ace and Kyle: You're both right
wennejunk Monday, August 25th at 1:49PM EDT (link)You are both correct.
Ace, since you didn’t apply the threadjack end tag, I’ll fill in a bit more and then apply it.
My point on “slipping into identity politics” was really in reference to this particular election, not for the long term. We need to win this election and then begin changing the trend in time for the next election.
Longer term, we’ve got big issues to solve.
However, I believe that Conservative ideology will begin to grow and overtake the trends you both listed when we see the following begin to happen:
Conservatives across the country make a conscious decision to get active in the political process beyond voting. This means writing real letters, calling politicians at all levels, attending town hall meetings at all level and giving $$. I know most here do, most outside do not.
Conservatives across the country make a conscious effort to understand why they believe what they believe. Many here do and many do not. They have Conservative beliefs but cannot articulate why those are correct without going ballistic when questioned or refuted by either a troll or a squish. Again, its even worse outside RS. Our beliefs must move from the gut to the head.
Conservatives need to make changes in their lifestyles. Not what it sounds like. Folks needs to shut off the PSP and xBox, 200+ channels of mindlessness on 64″ Plasma displays and tone down all the things that eat at their/their kids free time. They need to then actively invest in the civic education of their kids by teaching them to think, to debate and to participate in the process. The kids can’t vote, but they can call and write and attend. Changing the dynamic is going to be a lifelong process.
RedState is a part of the solution.
I was a gut level Conservative prior to bookmarking this site 2 1/2 years ago.
Since then:
I’ve made the first of many calls to my (and other)Congressman/Senators
written dozens of letter to the same
given hundreds of $ (never gave a dime before)
gave my contact info to the local GOP as a volunteer (most painful of all thus far)
am now seeking opportunities to get to know the GOP leadership in the Austin area. (Tonight we get to eat BBQ at an event for Rep. Michael McCaul.)
have begun reading the foundational literature of Conservative ideology
My son is grown so many of those child rearing opportunities are gone, but he is probably more Conservative at 25 than I was so that’s a good start.
/threadjack
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No BAC?
wennejunk Monday, August 25th at 2:13PM EDT (link)Interesting defense (from my layman’s POV).
So the police followed him, arrested him for DUI but never confirmed with blood/breathlyzer?
(Some) inquiring minds want to know more.
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yes, over the limit but the case is in SC where
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, August 25th at 2:22PM EDT (link)the applicable standard is “under the influence”, not a strict liability case of guilt based solely on that test.
I contend that the best evidence is how one drives. The film shows little weaving. Car always within the lines.
This was a case of a cop waiting outside of a bar at night.
Plus, as to the test. They always..
man, I’m giving away too many secrets of mt success!!
They always test the machine first with a known sample. But that only the shows that the machine worked during the test, before the defendant’s test.
We can never know if the machine malfunctions during a defendant’s test, as the cops know I have a witness and they have to admit that sometimes the machines will test right, then malfunction and then test right again.
see the point?
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wennejunk Monday, August 25th at 3:09PM EDT (link)I’ve got two clients (both defense attorneys) who handle a fair amount of DUI here in the Austin area.
Now I’m curious as to the law’s specifics around here re: DUI/DWI.
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amen no doubt - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, August 25th at 3:44PM EDT (link)n
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Re Texas DUI law, IIRC when called for jury duty on a DUI case,
streetwise Monday, August 25th at 4:34PM EDT (link)the state has to prove either impaired driving or a positive result on a test.
I didn’t make the final selection, so my memory could be off.
Selling Palin
paint_it_red Monday, August 25th at 6:08PM EDT (link)Going with the theme of this thread that “identity politics” are a per se invalid criterion for veep selection, I still think Palin’s the best.
An ideal veep for 2008 in my mind should:
1 - Be able to reach key swing electorates. This year it happens to be women in large numbers, but whichever man or woman is most likely to do that meets the criteria most likely to help McCain win.
2 - Should be able to highlight issues that will help the GOP both win the White House and downticket. Energy policy, social and fiscal conservativism are our bread and butter this year.
3 - As the 2nd most important national party figure, should help heal the damage that’s been done to the party brand. We’re down 10 points on the generic Congressional ballot. Ethics reform, fiscal responsibility and a bipartisan, maverick spirit are musts to highlight McCain’s strengths and heal the party.
Which candidates do the above better than Palin?
Now, it has also been addressed that she has some potential drawbacks.
1 - Only been Governor for 2 years. True, and Obama has only been Senator for 3, 2 of which were running for President. She has also held a variety of posts before entering the political sphere including being a successful businesswoman. And, she has accomplished more in 2 years as Governor than most Governors accomplish in their full terms.
2 - The “troopergate” scandal. This is like the NYT hit piece on McCain about that lobbyist. There is no substance to it. Democrats can do all the investigations they want, but we have to stop rolling over on our own people and giving up on them. Look at the facts of this case. The woman is being attacked by the same political enemies she took down in her heroic ethics reform that cleaned up Alaskan politics. Her sister had already been divorced from the guy for years. Palin has forcefully stated she did not do anything wrong. If there was any substance to this, it would have come up when she was running for office. This trumped up investigation is just political payback.
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Sarah Palin is from Nowhere, you know, that islan
Achance Monday, August 25th at 6:23PM EDT (link)near Hawaii on the map where they live in igloos, ride in dogsleds, and give away free money. Oh, and they have some oil but only at the cost of killing all the caribou. That is the sum of most Americans’ knowledge of Alaska. Alaska isn’t even in flyover country, it’s waaay past that.
That is precisely how the elite media will view Palin and they’ll portray her as a rube dressed in fur who eats raw caribou.
And the Trooper thing isn’t nearly as benign as you portray it; some of her people did some bad things and got taped doing them, unfortunately that came out after she said nobody did nothin’. Actually, if she did everything they accuse her of, she didn’t violate any laws and its the sort of thing Dems do all the time and nobody notices. But, she ran as the political vestal virgin, and now she’s paying for it.
In Vino Veritas
Then
Rod_Patrick Monday, August 25th at 6:28PM EDT (link)I will accept if McCain chooses Palin as his VP. My conclusion on the exchanges of thoughts on VP:
If the choice is our “regular” republican and conservative leader, then we must all accept.
If a lib/dem, McCain has a lot of explaining to do.
If an “irregular” conservative (e.g. Alan Keyes) then McCain must explain.
But it’s really up to McCain. If we truly believe that he is our Leader in this election, can’t we give him the benefit of the doubt on his VP Pick?
The bottomline: THE VP pick must not divide us.
Sarah Palin for VP
Octavian Monday, August 25th at 6:58PM EDT (link)Sarah Palin is the female version of Theodore Roosevelt and right now she is the best candidate for VP on the GOP ticket. Plus, Joe Biden is such an oaf, he will undoubtedly same something personally offensive to Palin at their debate that will offend female voters across the board.
And you know this how?
Achance Monday, August 25th at 7:10PM EDT (link)You know, I kinda like her, gave her money, voted for her, but let’s be real. She even styles herself as a “hockey mom,” that’s the Alaska version of a soccer mom. Wasilla, where she was mayor, hardly has a government. She spent a little while in a patronage appointment with the Oil and Gas Conservation Commission before she made a big issue of what one of her fellow commissioners was alleged to be doing and became the Anchorage Daily News (McClatchy) and the Democrats’ favorite Republican. She was in the right place as Frank Murkowski committed political suicide and Alaska decided it had had enough of Tony Knowles.
She’s never debated a trained advocate, which no matter what else he is or isn’t, Biden is, or answered a question from a big league reporter. She might be up to it, but there is nothing to show that she is, and more than a hint that she isn’t.
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Hadn't seen any tapes
paint_it_red Monday, August 25th at 7:51PM EDT (link)Do you have a link to that?
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Hey Zoot
Joe_Schmo Monday, August 25th at 9:21PM EDT (link)You’ve hit on a common thread of thought.
Aceintx, Blackrepub, EPU, Absentee, and many others have lamented the losing of the old beliefs. My opinion is that the steady shift over to the liberal view is what has done the biggest damage.
You are just highlighting the damage the shift to the left has done. The idea that we would pick a VP candidate because of what “box” they are in is disgusting
Hang in there, some of us are trying to correct the list…
There's an audio tape
Achance Tuesday, August 26th at 7:08AM EDT (link)of one of her staffers “suggesting” that the ex-brother in law be fired. He called a State Trooper Lt. who was acting as the Department of Public Safety’s legislative liason. Unfortunately for the Governor, he didn’t make the call on a nice discrete cell phone but rather on the main monitored line to the State Trooper post in Ketchikan. Funny thing, somebody kept the tape. Wouldn’t be a bid deal except for the fact that she had vehemently denied that anyone on her staff had tried to influence the DPS.
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I've done all of the above and more for 20 years
AceInTX Tuesday, August 26th at 8:02AM EDT (link)I don’t want to discourage you…but you’re saying nothing I haven’t heard for 20 years. We’re always asked to compromise because we can always advance to Conservative ball later…later never comes. Slipping into identity politics does two things…it says the Dems have been right all along for playing that game and it says we’ve always been racists and sexists etc just like the Dems have always accused us of being…secondly it sets us up for the next compromise…and we naver slip back to what’s right…
Now were being asked to compromise Conservatism to elect this nominee…the argument being that we can hold the line with him once he’s elected like we did with Meyers and Amnesty…and we can try again in 2012 with a real conservative…guess what…once he’s elected…the same crowd making that argument now will be demanding that we support our President and when 2012 comes along they’ll be crowing about how moderation and playing to moderates and independents worked for McCain and we need to follow the same strategy in 2012 and beyond. They’re in the power positions in the party…and they’ll set about setting the primary schedule to ensure a squish candidate in 2012.
I used to be as optimistic as you…and I did everything you describe in 1994…and the squishes set about killing everything we accomplished then…read my articles on the Republican Main Street Project to see what I mean…I’ve been through it…I’ve seen them work…and I’ve watched them compromise and undercut conservatives for 20 years…I’ve gone from being an idealist about Conservativism to a total cynic…Sorry I can’t go along with you…Once a sucker…twice a fool…and I’ve been a sucker so many times over the last 20 years I don’t know what to call myself… The time to stop the moderates is NOW…winning the argument and advancing Conservativism is NOW…Unless we start confronting this issue Mark my words and remember them 20 years from now when someone starts preaching to you that we need to moderate to win…you’ll be where I am wondering when we will finally do what’s right just like I am now.
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Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 8:40AM EDT (link)The lukewarm approach by some Conservative leaders of our policies and principles are really frustrating.
The main casualties of these calculations and compromises for the sake of identity politics and popular views have been the principles of conservatism and republicanism. They hurt the principles more than the politicians.
NOW is the time for our Rep/Con leaders to stand up and truly embrace conservativism to save this Party, and to save America from the Far Left.
As our Candidate, McCain can start by picking the right Conservative VP.
I've seen her answer questions on TV
JSobieski Tuesday, August 26th at 4:18PM EDT (link)In the interviews I saw, she appeared to be a better candidate than any other I had seen this cycle.
A hockey mom is exactly what we need. Contrast Palin with Obama and Michelle. Palin is in many ways what Hillary pretended to be—a woman who can play with boys and come out a winner.
Palin comes across as such a non-politician. I wish she would move to Michigan and run for governor here.
I agree that her experience is thin, but when Obama is the top of the other ticket, I think she would be an excellent pick.
What really burns my britches...
AceInTX Wednesday, August 27th at 12:42PM EDT (link)Is that these same politicians know damned well that Conservativism is a winning governing ideology because they run as Conservatives…and govern as “Moderates”…which basically means Liberals!
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