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How about a REDSTATE ROUNDTABLE on the bailout and credit crisis

Since the RedState Directors are already arguing amongst themselves about it

It’s not so much that I think the RedState Directors have a better knowledge than the rest of us on this issue but that they seem to be the only ones who can access the RedState servers consistently and reliably enough to make detailed and cogent arguments in support of their disparate opinions.

Besides, in fairness to all of them, they have all made very cogent and compelling arguments regarding the current credit crisis and whether or not the Federal government should bailout the market. And I say this even as I strongly disagree with some of the arguments (even some of the arguments of those whose position I ultimately agree with).

Please, how about a REDSTATE ROUNDTABLE on this and soon?

As for the failure of the bailout plan itself, allow me to quote from some of my earlier posts. I am personally ambivalent to say the least. I think the idea of the government essentially purchasing over $700,000,000,000 in private securities and bad debt to be repugnant and a long term debacle. Indeed, let me call it what I really think it is: a significant step towards socialism.

I have consistently argued that the real solution to this problem is to loosen the capital markets by eliminating capital gains taxes; although the injecting $630,000,000,000 in the market is a good step, it also potentially weakens the already (IMHO) too weak dollar. But, unfortunately, my solution was not on the table.

The one very good thing passing the bailout bill would have “reassured” capital markets. Sometimes government “action” has a positive effect, even though the government action itself is not “positive”: the sort of political equivalent of the Hawthorne effect.

So while in the long-term, economically, I think it is a good thing that the bailout plan failed, short-term I think the economy losses.

But politically I must ask this fundamental question: were free-market-based solutions even considered?

This country is becoming socialist but it is not because the Democrats have nominated a Marxist as their Presidential nominee. It is because it seems that neither the present Republican occupant of the White House cannot defend capitalism.

And unfortunately, the Republican Presidential nominee decided to follow the current occupant of the White House down the abyss.

If he acts now, John McCain still has plenty of time to get his economic team together and present his own free market-based solution to the current credit crunch that does not go a great way to socialize our financial markets. The question is, does McCain have the guts, intelligence, imagination and vision to do it?

COMMENTS

  • Maggie_in_Indiana

    n/t

  • izoneguy

    There are plenty of smart people here. Does anyone read the posts? Is it the title of the post? or you only read what’s hot? Or you get pissed when you get a 500 error and giveup?
    It’s all here. McCain experts are playing with an old playbook. They need to throw it out and READ the posts here. We are the everyday working people who take their kids to school, pay their mortgages, pay plenty of taxes and want to live lives without government interference. We don’t want a Marxist who thinks he needs to destroy America to save the world. Most of the world is not worth saving. America is worth saving. If this message gets out then McCain can win.

    • ZootSuit

      I agree that there are many smart people here — me not least among them {grin} — but, unfortunately, it does seem that (more than) half the time I try to submit a long post explaining my position on the credit crunch and bailout plan, yes, I do get a dreaded “500 error” and yes I give up.

      Have others, hopefully including myself, made intelligent comments?

      Yes.

      But unfortunately, for whatever reason, few have been able to make detailed arguments in support of their position as opposed to “just” an intelligent comment or two. I personally, while I value the latter, would like to see more of the former.

      The RedState directors, on the other hand, do seem to be able to make longer comments. Since they, collectively, seem to be on all sides of the issue, I would like to see a REDSTATE ROUNDTABLE where they, collectively, get to argue out their positions. I personally would enjoy it and find it thought-provoking.

  • Uma_Richie

    If we weren’t in the home stretch of a presidential race, I’d enjoy all the give and take. Our ability to hold differing points of view separates us from the liberals, but it isn’t a good time for a house divided.

    I, too, would like to see a roundtable on this issue. I also would like an open thread for the non-economists among us to add our two cents on what would make a bail out bill palatable. Can you please open this one so that I don’t bump anyone off the bottom?

    From reading everyone’s posts this morning, there are some recurring themes:
    1. Accountability for those responsible.
    2. Energy costs have exacerbated the problem and need to be lowered.
    3. Addressing causes and not just treating symptoms.

    Anything else?

  • izoneguy

    You do understand. I had made many posts about this website.
    Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis. Today Erick posts it as a must read. Great! People must read it. I don’t know if people read my posts or just think I am nuts. I will continue to rant & rave until Nov. 4th. If Obama gets elected then we can all figure out another way to rant & rave because it won’t be on the internet, TV or radio. We will have to go back to the days of posting flyers and making DVD’s. How long after that until the Obama Squad visits your home?