Update 10: Video: Congresswoman admits Executive Order will not change abortion law.
Update 9: Final Whip Counts vary, but I expect 217 to 214, however, the damage from the pro-life sell out and the passage of the health care bill will likely keep the vote in flux. The Democrats have pulled a full Farouk. They have even managed to make angry beyond comprehension the pro-lifers.
Update 8: How can an Executive Order over ride a law? Which will a judge choose to follow? The law obviously.
Update 7: Stupak says he has an Executive Order to implement the Hyde Amendment language in the bill. He caves, the impact on other votes is unclear.
Why are the pro-life groups letting Stupak define if the bill is pro-life or not?
Where is there strong opposition to the Executive Order?
Where are their statements that no member will ever get an endorsement if they vote for this bill?
Update 6: Drudge is reporting: “FLASH: Senate Republicans found a provision in the new House health care bill that likely makes it ineligible for expedited ‘reconciliation’ procedures in the Senate. Dems refused to meet with GOP and Parliamentarian…. Developing….”
Update 5: Dems don’t have the votes. The Hill reports that the No votes are piling up and there are now more No votes (39) than are needed (38) for a Dem loss. If correct, ObamaCare dies in the House.
According to The Hill Rep. Stupak’s office is issuing strong denials of any deal, and push back from pro-abortion is starting. Directly from The Hill: “The decisions of two Tennessee Democrats, Reps. John Tanner and Lincoln Davis, to vote no has put President Barack Obama, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and her lieutenants in a major bind.”
Update 4: DailyKos says CNN says Stupak says he is still a No and there is no deal and that it’s “a work in progress.”
Update 3: Reuters is reporting Stupak at Yes.
Update 2: FireDogLake is reporting MSNBC is reporting Stupak is a Yes based on some promise for an Executive Order.
UPDATE: Politico is reporting a deal is imminent on abortion.
It is clear that the Dems must make a deal to pass this nightmare of a bill. Will it be with Stupak? Apparently the Dems are meeting on that now to decide. Other sources not sure who will get sold out — the Dem leadership or the pro-lifers. If Stupak caves, his entire life will be defined by it, and the pro-lifers and the left will make him their target number one.
Here is some other relevant news, Republican House Whip Cantor has released a statement of the various Right to Life Groups on any possible Executive Order to remedy any law that is passed:
US Conference of Catholic Bishops: “No regulation, policy letter from HRSA, or other executive action can withstand a statutory mandate, construed by federal courts applying a constitutional decision on abortion.”
National Right to Life Committee: “If the [Senate] bill is signed into law, these statutory requirements and defects are not subject to correction or nullification by the chief executive or his appointees, whether by Executive Order, regulation, or otherwise.”
Americans United for Life: “The proposal to address the problem of abortion funding in the health care bill through use of an Executive Order is a tacit acknowledgment that the bill as it stands is pro-abortion legislation … [I]t also does not succeed in application. An Executive Order cannot prevent insurance companies that pay for abortions from participating in the exchanges. Further, Executive Orders can be undone or modified as quickly as they are created. This is a blatant attempt to subvert democracy and should be quickly quashed.”
Family Research Council warns against the promise of: “an Executive Order (EO) that would magically fix the fact that the Senate bill (H.R. 3590) would spend government funds to pay for elective abortions. Further, the Reconciliation bill will make matters worse by increasing funding for community health centers, which will bypass any abortion funding restrictions in appropriations bills because it is directly appropriated. Both taken together will fund abortion, regardless of any EO.”
We are all tired. We all want it to be over. But trading a vote for a law which funds the killing of the innocents — in return for an Executive Order and a promise to pass a future law is a joke.
It is a really, really bad deal, and pro-lifers will oppose it.
If it happens, no one will understand Rep. Stupak caving, ever, for a piece of parchment that is not a law?
And who takes seriously a promise by those who are not able to promise anything — especially after the weakening and political losses taken because of ObamaCare.
Rep. Stupak should understand that passing this law with a promise that some future law will pass, to take away the government’s power to fund killing babies that he allowed, will mean the promised law will never happen. Why should it? They got what they wanted and Stupak allowed it to happen.
That promise is just like the One’s promise to the Hispanic Caucus about taking up immigration. The Hispanic Caucus is believing a lie. They know it. Everyone knows it.
And just like Sen. Nelson, Rep. Stupak will be a man without a country.
He will have sold out — and been part and parcel of the process of allowing millions of innocents to die.