Gang of 8 immigration bill support falling, Harry Reid is now in an anxious push to pass it (Update: CBO comes out with a “rosy” projection, Thune amendment shot down)
That the Democratic leadership wants this bill so bad should be all the reason why the GOP shouldn't support it
With a new poll showing falling support for the Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform bill, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has announced an accelerated schedule in which the Senate would take a final, up-or-down vote on passing the bill by the end of next week.
“I’m just telling everybody that we’re going to either file cloture on this on Friday or Saturday or Sunday or Monday,” Reid said as the Senate opened its morning session. Filing for cloture means that a final vote would be held three days later. So if Reid filed for cloture on Monday, June 24, a final vote on the bill would be held on Thursday, June 27. The Senate’s July Fourth break starts the week after.
Reid warned his fellow lawmakers that if they want to consider amendments to the Gang of Eight bill, they need to be prepared to work virtually nonstop between now and then. “This may not be one of our normal weekends,” Reid said. “We’ve got to move forward on this legislation.”
I would love to see one of those wacko bird Senators demand that amendments be read. That would just completely screw up the calendar and doom any chance of something being passed prior to July 4th. The perfect amendment to have read would be John Thune’s amendment that is scheduled for a vote on Tuesday.
The amendment by John Thune, R-S.D., would require construction of at least 350 miles of the fence before any illegal immigrants would be awarded legal status. The remaining 350 miles would have to be built for legalized immigrants to be able to apply for a green card.
Thune has noted that Secure Fence Act of 2006 called for 700 miles of fencing along the southern border, but only 36 miles has been constructed.
Thune said the fence amendment “would be a tangible demonstration that Congress and this administration are serious about border security.”
Most Democrats oppose the amendment, primarily because they want nothing in the bill that sets a border security condition for legalization or a pathway to citizenship.
I take these amendments with a grain of salt that are being offered by the GOP. If they really want to put this bill on life support, you drag out the debate so people can be informed of what’s in the bill. Why? Remember how Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid rammed through Obamacare defiantly against the will of majority public opinion? About that poll that Byron York cited earlier:
A new CNN survey showed a bare majority, 51 percent to 45 percent, supports the Gang of Eight bill. Perhaps more ominously, the poll found strong support for prioritizing border security above a path to citizenship for currently-illegal immigrants. Independents favor security before a path by a two-to-one margin, and Republicans support it by a three-to-one margin. Democrats favored a path to citizenship over security, but by the barest of margins, 50 percent to 49 percent. Overall, CNN found that 62 percent of the public favors prioritizing security before a path to citizenship, while 36 percent favored a path over security.
Not a good development for Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer, hence the anxiety. What bewilders me is why does certain members of the GOP want to help the Democrats in the face of growing opposition? If the people don’t like the bill after reviewing it, the bill shouldn’t pass. Another key development is John Boehner has apparently told the GOP caucus he won’t bring an immigration bill to the floor unless a majority of the GOP caucus supports it. Any immigration legislation that should pass is border security first before legalization. Of course Democrats and establishment Republicans have a willful disdain for what the people think, particularly now that people are more informed and skeptical. Therefore, they don’t like this. If the GOP side of the Gang of 8 helps, heck, any GOP Senator, give Reid the votes he needs for cloture to get this bill through, I would hope voters would give them their walking papers when they came up for election again.
Time to melt some Senators phones these next two weeks.
Remember the rosy projections that the CBO gave Obamacare only to say “Oops” some time after the legislation had passed? Feast your eyes on the latest steaming pile coming from the CBO:
The Congressional Budget Office estimated Tuesday the Senate immigration bill would reduce deficits by $197 billion over 10 years, handing supporters a new economic argument for the bill as the upper chamber marches toward a final vote.
The CBO said the bill would increase spending by $262 billion between 2014 and 2023 by requiring new border security measures (will never happen with this bill), but would increase revenue by $459 billion as those given legal status and newly admitted temporary workers pay taxes.
The use of dynamic scoring allows the CBO to assume there would be 6 million more workers in 2023 and 9 million more in 2033. These additional workers would increase Social Security payroll taxes paid to the government by $214 billion, and other tax revenue by $245 billion. The budget office assumes the immigrant population would generally work more than average adults.Using the dynamic scoring, the CBO sees the bill increasing economic growth by 3.3 percent in 2023 and by 5.4 percent in 2033. But it finds that average wages would decrease slightly, by 0.1 percent, in 202 because new workers would receive lower pay than current workers, but wages increase after that. Due to higher growth, interest rates would be expected to rise.
Yeah, this is a huge steaming pile but the intent of it is to bring more reluctant GOP senators aboard to get those numbers to vote for the legislation. The CBO is using inflated growth numbers to make that hash out. We have seen this act and drum roll with Obamacare before. Of course the entire Gang of 8 is all orgasmic over the report. The problem is, with the economy so over-regulated and uncertain as a result of the current administration at the White House, all these new “workers” won’t be able to find work. They will need to live somehow so they will need government benefits. Yikes, I don’t want to even imagine the deficits that this will result in let alone what Obamacare is going to do to our nation’s balance sheet.
The Gang of 8 continues shooting down any border security amendment with an add-on vote from Lisa Murkowski. It’s look they have put earplugs to their ears regarding public opinion which has clearly stated they want border security first prior to legalization. Good point out by bananapouch on the apparent whip count on how it might come out to be. I have the Gang of 8 (Flake, Graham, McCain, Rubio) along with McConnell, Murkowski and Ayotte voting for this. That puts it currently at 62 maximum votes that are going to vote for this crap assuming Manchin and Pryor vote yea and deny themselves cover. So, what other GOP senators do you think will turncoat and help Schrubio get to that magic 70 that they so desperately want?