Sen. Marco Rubio [R-FL] took to the Senate floor for a 15 minute speech on the Debt Ceiling debate. Around 7 mins in Sen. John Kerry [D-NVA] thought he would try and debate him. Hilarity ensued. [h/t to The Corner]
“To the Senator from Massachusetts I would say that it is impossible to negotiate with someone who doesn’t have a plan”
I will note the reaction of two of my friends.
First an observation by Moe via email, “And they wanted us to take Kerry seriously as a Presidential candidate.”
The second from Ben Howe, “The most impressive thing about Rubio vs Kerry is that Rubio didn’t fall asleep while Kerry was talking.”
Not much else to say really.
Aaron B. Gardner
P.S. If you want to see more like Sen. Rubio in the Senate in 2013 then you should probably consider sending a few dollars to the Senate Conservatives Fund while they still have some bit of worth. Ted Cruz and Josh Mandel would love to join Senators DeMint, Rubio, Lee, Paul, and Johnson.
Steve Maley
Daniel Horowitz
Kerry OWNED
RealQuiet (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 6:44PM EDT (link)n/t
Once again, the French-Looking, former Junior Senator
romeg Sunday, July 31st at 6:59AM EDT (link)from Massachusetts who, by the way, also served in Viet Nam, demonstrates for all the world to see that, in a battle of wits, he is unarmed.
“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis
They actually believe their own BS.
msctex (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 6:53PM EDT (link)And are subsequently flabbergasted when confronted by anyone who speaks from a position based upon Reality.
Congratulations Sen. Rubio
runner12 (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 7:03PM EDT (link)You just took down Obama, Reid, Kerry, and the whole Democratic party, all with tact and intelligence. That was an excellent articulation of the truth.
There were several points in which I was tempted to let out an “amen.”
Keep preachin’ it.
Word
Alpip Saturday, July 30th at 10:33PM EDT (link)Excellent! Nuff said.
If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate.
Very good young man. You make me proud.
trutexan Sunday, July 31st at 8:36AM EDT (link)…(getting out my checkbook).
Ted Cruz (R) for Texas Senate.
Obama – Forward!
Proverbs 4:12-15
A naughty person, a wicked man, walketh with a forward mouth. He winketh with his eyes, he speaketh with his feet, he teacheth with his fingers; Forwardness is in his heart, he deviseth mischief continually; he soweth discord. Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly; suddenly shall he be broken without remedy.
He used one of the props I suggested the other day
bk (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 7:11PM EDT (link)A blank sheet of paper to represent the Democratic plan.
Future President, no teleprompter needed.
Tbone (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 7:13PM EDT (link)He must scare the Dems to death.
Like” Are you sure we want to register all these Hispanics?”
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
My thoughts exactly
fedsocdan (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:15PM EDT (link)Man, when he takes over for Perry in 10 years it’s gonna be sweeeeet!
“The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.”
“Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.”
Milton Friedman
Ummmm!
aposematic Sunday, July 31st at 8:50AM EDT (link)The Government solution to a problem is rarely as bad as the problem as it often makes the problem much worse.
What free market? There is only regressive regulation and crony capitalism left in America and that is the real problem we the people face.
But I did get your point, I just wanted to clear up a few of the points.
aposematic in VA
Just finished watching it, great.
gekster (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 7:20PM EDT (link)The only bad thing about it is, for all of the comon sense he made,
all the Dems will ignore it.
Comon sense is not in thier playbook.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Compromise without solutions is a waste of time.
keysconservative Saturday, July 30th at 7:21PM EDT (link)Excellent point. How do you compromise with a party that never saw a spending or tax increase they didn’t like? When you’re up against a party that is wedded to the idea that every dollar government spends is necessary and can NEVER be cut where is the compromise?
Democrats NEVER Compromise!
aposematic Sunday, July 31st at 8:52AM EDT (link)The Democrat definition of compromise is when Republicans agree to all of the Democrats demands.
aposematic in VA
Two Thoughts:
jtlfrommd Saturday, July 30th at 7:31PM EDT (link)1) When Senator Kerry tried to argue the financial emergency that we find ourselves in, why didn’t Senator Rubio retort that we wouldn’t be at this stage if not for the ridiculous spending caused by the likes of Senator Kerry and the party he belongs to? (Not to give any kind of a pass to the R’s who were also a part of the problem). Seriously, it is as simple as that.
2) Can you imagine if this speech was shown across the airwaves of the MSM? Many people at Redstate have been asking for some good speakers to get out there and make the case. Senator Rubio did just that. This speech would go a long way in making conservatism look like the place to be and liberalism the party to run away from.
As to your first point:
romeg Sunday, July 31st at 7:08AM EDT (link)I think that the Senator from FL recognized that such an argument would put him on thin ice or open the door to valid counter charges that there were some wretched excesses proposed and passed and signed into law under the previous Republican administration. I’m alluding, specifically, to NCLB and the Medicare Drug Benefit add-on to Medicare neither of which should have seen the light of day.
As to your second point, I could not agree more.
“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis
Kerry actually made a valid point
texasmama Saturday, July 30th at 7:49PM EDT (link)in saying that B.O.’s vote was “purely symbolic.” It sums up the Donkey party’s point of view that all that is important is to win the next election and consolidate its power. Rubio’s analogy of negotiating what part of a burning house to save was brilliant.
I disagree that Kerry's point had any validity.
Mike (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:50PM EDT (link)Here’s why.
The ethics of a Senator’s vote do not change based on what everyone else is expected to do. It is either the right thing to do, or the wrong thing to do — and what everyone else does is irrelevant.
Situational morals is like rooting for the Mets all year, and then rooting for the Phillies in the playoffs. It’s not something a civilized person does
Mike, Re-read the comment.
gekster (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 9:02PM EDT (link)Look at it from a different angle.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Mike--I agree
texasmama Saturday, July 30th at 11:12PM EDT (link)My subject line was apparently confusing–my apologies. Perhaps a better way to put it is to say that Kerry’s point was perhaps more truthful than he intended. He was justifying Obama’s, Biden’s, etc., votes by saying that they were symbolic because they couldn’t change anything anyway so they couldn’t actually bring further harm to the country. He was revealing that their rhetoric was nothing more than that–intended to decieve people into believing they were taking the high road, when they knew that the low road was safely theirs. Rubio, to the shame of the veteran gray-hairs, is the adult in the room. He is standing on conviction, damn the political consequences.
Any bets on the outcome?
I'll take that bet
mexneck Sunday, July 31st at 12:14AM EDT (link)I bet we’ll be seeing more of Marco Rubio in a more Presidential setting. Meanwhile both parties will concoct some kind of bs that will allow them to continue spending and paying lip service to the Constitution of the United States of America. So sad. Marco why aren’t you running now?!
Well then :D
Mike (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 12:37PM EDT (link)iFail. Point well taken, and I agree
Kerry's Point: empty symbolism is OK, demanding real change not OK
Freedoms Truth (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 7:40PM EDT (link)Kerry was saying that ‘no’ votes that don’t change anything are OK. In other words, so long as you are engaging in empty symbolism, that is OK. But if you you have the ability to make any real change, that would be dangerous. It’s a stunning admission of the hypocrisy of liberal politics.
It also points to exactly WHY we have commission after commission, deal after deal, and hand-wringing and yet, the problem of over-spending never gets fixed. The status quo spend-it-all system is the problem and ALL these Kerry-types want to do is keep the gravy train going at all costs.
And yes, Marco Rubio is indeed brilliant.
Freedoms Truth,
Travis Monitor – http://travismonitor.blogspot.com
Austin, TX
At least Florida got this one right
cfoy65 Saturday, July 30th at 8:00PM EDT (link)With all the news lately highlighting some pretty incompetent Floridians, at least we got this senate race right! Senator Rubio is the first politician I felt strongly enough about to actually donate to, and am very proud he is representing our State so well. I’m hoping he decides to eventually run for president, as he is one of the very few out there that can so eloquently articulate the conservative view and make the liberals look like the lying hypocrites that they are. If we could just get Senator Nelson out of the way this next election!
Thank you, Florida
texasmama Saturday, July 30th at 11:28PM EDT (link)Rubio is a precious gift to this country–one I pray for regularly. One of the things I respect most about him is his refusal (much like Christie’s) to be rushed ahead of his time. We need men and women of his caliber in every facet of government.
You're probably right. But imagine what it would be like
littlehouse18 (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 12:18AM EDT (link)if he were in the VP slot on the ticket. Then everyone would have to pay attention to his oratory, and there would be a huge swell of support. I believe the younger generation would go for him in droves. He can wipe the ‘scales from their eyes’ and do much to overcome the indoctrination to which they’ve been subjected.
Of course, it would be a shame to lose him from the Senate so early in his national career. He makes me hope again for this nation, if only we can get his message out.
Aaron... your title line...
Ned Reck (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:06PM EDT (link)Quote: “Sen. Rubio Beat a Dead Horse in the Senate Today. His Name Is John Kerry.”
Aaron… your title line made me laugh out loud… reminded me of that ol’ joke back durin’ the ’04 election….
~~~~~
John Kerry walks into a bar. Bartenter says to him… “Why the long face?”
hehehe
Ned Reck
On the plains of “Hesitation”… lie the blackened bones of
countless millions… who… at the dawn of victory…
sat down to rest… and while resting….. DIED.
~ Anonymous
Heh, that's what I was going for.
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:08PM EDT (link)And thanks.
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat
Follow @Aaron_RS
Aaron, I would have said beat a dead jacka@#, but that's just me. nt
Melody Warbington (rwm52) (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 12:30AM EDT (link)…
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. (John 4:25)
I do believe John Kerry (finally) earned his Puple Heart.
throwback59 Saturday, July 30th at 8:11PM EDT (link)ouch.
Nice.
msctex (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:55PM EDT (link)n/t
Holy crap that deserves a slow clap
jaykali (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:15PM EDT (link)Dude Rubio is going to be president. Not in 2012, he’s not even running, but this guy is going to be stinking president. I get so frustrated that so many Republicans can’t make coherent arguments when they have the facts on their side. They get pulled into dubious arguments about things that don’t matter.
Such as, has anyone heard a reason WHY we SHOULDN’T have a BBA? I am not in the camp that it’s realistic, but what exactly is any Democrat’s official position on WHY they wouldn’t vote for it? It’s absolutely indefensible. Everyone on this message board wants to talk about pressure. Pressure does NOT come from Boehner arm wrestling Harry Reid in some back room somewhere. Pressure comes from winning the freaking argument in the public arena. The people are the ones that put on the pressure.
So anyway Rubio is so good at articulating his points, he sounds so absolutely reasonable, he doesn’t just hem and haw with crutch cliche phrases like ‘kicking the can’ down the road or speak in broad platitudes like Obama who patronizes us like we’re 4 year olds. He is absolutely brilliant that Rubio. I hope he sticks around.
Absolutely!
fedsocdan (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:19PM EDT (link)Rubio could torch anyone in a debate. He mopped the floor with what’s his name in the primary last year. I can hold my own but I’d be terrified to go up against this guy.
Future President for sure.
“The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.”
“Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.”
Milton Friedman
Agreed
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:59PM EDT (link)Click to see full size image
Very nice
jaykali (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 10:21PM EDT (link)We all know Bill Krystal is in love with a Rubo/Ryan ticket (neither are running sadly…altho stay tuned for a lot of VP rumors next year…) and we can see why. Rubio & Ryan are 2 hugely influential thinkers in the conservative cause and rising stars. They make fantastic arguments. I love when a sunday show has on Ryan & Debbie Shultz – she sounds like a complete moron spitting out tired Democratic talking points. I always come away thinking why does she ever agree to go against Ryan? Anyway if there is a way for us to get out of this mess it’s through guys like Ryan and Rubio.
I love them both
texasmama Saturday, July 30th at 11:46PM EDT (link)but I don’t underestimate the value they are to us where they are for right now. We are in transition, and there is a natural progression that brings the fullness of maturity. There is only one President, and he only serves eight years at best. These men are in the trenches where the law of our land is established. My hope is that they will help shape the Congress to come, and will take their place at the helm of this nation when the time is right.
The door is still wide open for them
6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 2:54PM EDT (link)or anyone that is a leader in the good fight.
Besides Michele Bachmann, we haven’t heard much from the “frontrunners” on the debt ceiling debate.
Click to see full size image
He is the next Ronald Reagan that we've been looking for.
littlehouse18 (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 12:20AM EDT (link)..
That's an insult to all dead horses
alaskaescapeartist (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:21PM EDT (link)Good grief….. Kerry is a lumbering, rambling, self-caricature.
Rubio is a gem.
.
Mike (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:52PM EDT (link)I’ve never seen a horse who had a four inch mushroom mane hanging over its eyes.
Who want's some Heinz Ketchup with their Dead Horse?
jeffreywturner (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:57PM EDT (link)n/t
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
If only that da*n helicopter accident hadn't happened.
littlehouse18 (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 12:22AM EDT (link)What a tragedy in so many ways.
It's Not Even That They Don't Have A Plan
qsclues (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 8:57PM EDT (link)The problem with the Democrats is not that they don’t have a plan — it’s that they refuse to acknowledge that there is even a problem. That’s the real reason that we can’t negotiate properly with them.
Awesome speech by Senator Rubio, though. A perfect summation of where we are and what the problem is.
Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
3 : term used by a liberal to concede an argument
Wow
Green_Lantern (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 9:09PM EDT (link)Kerry really tried to be relevant. Unfortunately, he picked a superstar.
Major man-crush building
tankertodd (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 9:14PM EDT (link)SEN Rubio is phenomenal. I think he’s going to do great things. He nailed it.
———————————
The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race – Chief Justice Roberts
the single best piece of oratory on this issue
ashland_avenue (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 9:41PM EDT (link)Great work
Sen Tom Coburn today
ideasmatter (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 11:05PM EDT (link)Sen Coburn today was recorded by c-span, I am not a big Coburn fan, but this was Coburn with the same dead horse, taking a second beating.I heartly recommend its viewing by everyone…
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SenRe/start/14756/stop/16376
I love all the detail Coburn provides
carolina Saturday, July 30th at 11:34PM EDT (link)I really, really wish they would clean up (cut) the obvious redudant programs and spending that Coburn has put together with input from CRS, CBO, GAO, etc. Talk about low hanging fruit!
Boom
Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 11:14PM EDT (link)The funniest thing here is that Kerry still believes that empty symbolic gestures are a responsible thing to do.
“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill
Like his Vietnam medals...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 11:28PM EDT (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat
Follow @Aaron_RS
No, more like his run
Tbone (Diary) Saturday, July 30th at 11:38PM EDT (link)for President.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
breaking -they have a deal per LUR
carolina Saturday, July 30th at 11:36PM EDT (link).
The deal?
carolina Saturday, July 30th at 11:51PM EDT (link)•Debt ceiling increase of up to $2.8 trillion
•Spending cuts of roughly $1 trillion
•Vote on the Balanced Budget Amendment
•Special committee to recommend cuts of $1.8 trillion (or whatever it takes to add up to the total of the debt ceiling increase)
•Committee must make recommendations before Thanksgiving recess
•If Congress does not approve those cuts by late December, automatic across-the-board cuts go into effect, including cuts to Defense and Medicare
We’ll see…..
(interesting this was reported at the same time Reid postponed the vote)
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/07/white-house-republicans-strike-tenative-deal-to-raise-debt-ceiling-.html
Sounds like it could be a trap.
littlehouse18 (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 12:29AM EDT (link)So they could recommend huge cuts, say, to defense, and if the House doesn’t go for them, then, the Republicans get portrayed as the Grinch right before Christmas.
Not to mention the whole idea that cuts get spread over 10 years, hence are fictitious. Meanwhile, Obama gets his big increase right up front to buy off 2012 votes.
Plus, these December votes
littlehouse18 (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 12:33AM EDT (link)catch everyone just wanting to get home for Christmas, so they’re more likely to get enough people to go along with the committee to get it over with.
compromising principles is not a good thing.
wbb1950 Sunday, July 31st at 12:34AM EDT (link)Washington elites claim that big bargains are a good thing and compromise is a virtue.
But that is not always the case, is it? For example:
If one side says death by a thousand cuts Apache style and the other side say draw and quarter here and now, and instead the hang him and it turns out that he was an innocent man, would 48% of the voters say that was a good thing because it was a compromise.?
If Harry Reid drafts the Boehner bill–as his people did, until conservatives forced hm to put some teeth in it and Reid comes up with a bill which purports to be his own which is full of smoke mirrors false savings and tax increases would anyone in their right mind t say that a compromise which falls well short of the goal needed to protect our bond rating call that a good thing?
Anyone besides big media?
Rubio, Mike Lee, Rand Paul
lastgopinillinois (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 12:36AM EDT (link)mopped the floor with Kerry and Durbin today in the senate.
No stumbling, no spin, just the facts.
Now if this could just be broadcast on every news media on Sunday morning, it might be worthwhile in so far as changing a few liberal minds.
In the beginning, God created earth to be an extension of his vast Kingdom and his LOVE was so great that he wanted to share it with man, whom he created in his own image and likeness and gave him free will.
To this very principal, the Founding Fathers of our nation decreed that freedom is a God-given in-alienable right of all the people.
Unfortunately that is up to us
reaganator Sunday, July 31st at 12:58AM EDT (link)use your facebook and twitter accounts.
First of all, we have to get rid of the old GOP elitist dead wood in DC
Common_Cents (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 11:09AM EDT (link)And get more Rubio’s. Once we shore up our own party, we’ll make quick work of the DEMS.
One thing that the GOP is terrible at, is coordinated messaging. DEMS are very good at it. They get out the talking points of the day with similar coordinated language as a group. REPS tend to go on their own.
Messaging could be much more solid when coordinated. The messages from Rubio and the other new guns should be relied on much much more.
Guys like Kerry will just eventually go away after ruining the country and when real work will have to be done, true patriots like Rubio are starting to come out of the woodwork.
“Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured…. but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen.” -Ben Stein
“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”[especially in DC] – Friedrich Nietzsche
At least Bambi had a shot against Godzilla
sanderson13 Sunday, July 31st at 12:43AM EDT (link)Thankfully Kerry’s loaded with botox, or his face would have been melted.
One MINOR quibble, I wish Rubio would have exposed Kerry’s lie about a possible default for what it is.
Rubio is the most inspiring politician I can think of. Man, Perry/Rubio would rock!
Interesting way to put it.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 12:51AM EDT (link)But I agree, it aplies.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Lol
cej Sunday, July 31st at 2:20AM EDT (link)Rubio has been invisible on the debt ceiling. We need to look to Rand Paul and Mike Lee for leadership.
Uhh, Rubio was talking on the debt ceiling.
gekster (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 2:27AM EDT (link)How is that being silent.
They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.
We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway
I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”
Right.
Mike (Diary) Sunday, July 31st at 12:44PM EDT (link)Because 15 minutes of flame-broiling the enemy in public, while pulling who knows how many hours at the negotiation table, is invisible. In fact, he’s so invisible, there’s a 60-comment thread on RedState about him…AoSHQ thread is probably closing on 1k comments by now…and I still haven’t seen Paul or Lee.
Go away, little troll
He gave a speech today in the Senate
kyconservative Sunday, July 31st at 2:31AM EDT (link)I hadn’t heard him since he was elected and was impressed. He was very articulate and set out a strong case for the position taken by DeMint, Lee, Paul and the others in their little group