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Finally Asking My Question of Donald Rumsfeld

Promoted from Diaries – DM

I had a novel experience last Thursday–I had lunch with my boss in our office conference room, not as we have untold numbers of times, but as a blogger hoping to get a question in.

In a way it was a lunch more than four years in the making.


In October, 2006 I was on a long weekend trip to Colorado, most of which I sent critiquing Bob Woodward’s State of Denial. That book seems very far away now, but at the time it was hot stuff. It was being heralded as the final denouement of the Bush administration by the venerable dean of the Washington Press corps.

The book was especially devastating of then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. He came across as brusque, myopic and hectoring. Quote after quote portrayed a man who was at the same time trying to grab authority and evade responsibility. It made for a riveting read. As Peggy Noonan noted, this “first-person testimony” that was “well documented with copious notes” constituted “a real contribution to history.”

I had noticed, however, that the Pentagon had taken the trouble to release the many page transcript of Secretary Rumsfeld’s interviews with Woodward. It made for interesting comparative reading, as Woodward could be quite creative with his quotes. In the dramatic conclusion of State of Denial, for example, Woodward declares himself struck speechless by a comment of Rumsfeld’s, so shocked was he by the arrogance of it. The man of words could find none. But according to the transcript, Woodward had found several hundred more, including some embarrassingly sycophantic banter. As with so much of the coverage of Rumsfeld, the easy narrative didn’t seem consistent with what the man had actually said.

I published my piece and quickly got a call from Erick Erickson that someone in the Pentagon had noticed it. I was amazed. Even more exciting, they thought it might be possible that I could get the first blogger interview with Rumsfeld. This was of course dazzling news for an academic, but I was game.

Just weeks later, Rumsfeld resigned after the 2006 mid-term elections. So much for that, thought I. Little did I know that six months later I would be accepting a position on his staff, first to oversee the digitization of his archive and later to assist on his book project. But that’s how it worked out, and the results are in bookstores now to the tune of some 726 pages of text not to mention 1326 endnotes and 84 illustrations. I still have a moment of panic when I see the cover, thinking that it has leaked.

As part of then roll-out, we planned a blogger lunch, which included Erick. At the last minute he had to cancel for personal reasons, leaving us with an empty seat. In a flippant moment I decided I would take it to cover for Redstate. This left me with a dilemma–how to come up with an interesting question for a man about whom I already know far too much?

When I announced my participation the boss responded with mock horror, no doubt anticipating a deliberately arcane question about the inner workings of the Nixon administration Cost of Living Council. The group arrived and there were excellent, lively questions–so many in fact that I did not get called on. As people were leaving, however, Rumsfeld asked what my question would have been, and I got my chance.

In going over the book in my mind I had hit on several of the “what if” moments that lead into the realm of alternate history. There are a number in Rumsfeld’s story. What if Nixon had not resigned? What if the 1988 republican primary had shaped up differently? Then there are the many “what ifs” about the Bush administration, that still-unresolved, difficult-to-judge period of history of which Rumsfeld was a big part.

On pages 491-92 of Known and Unknown, Rumsfeld writes that on March 6, 2003 he offered to go to Baghdad in the weeks after the invasion to personally oversee the early post-war phase. President Bush turned down the offer on then grounds that his Secretary of Defense might be needed to deal with other crises, and the moment passed. For such a loaded “what if,” not much is made of it.

So my question was, what did Rumsfeld hope to achieve had the President said yes? Could he have made much of a difference in the shifting chaos that was post-war Iraq? I knew he held strong views that the situation would have been better had the coalition quickly transferred authority to the Iraqis rather than embarking on the year-long CPA.

At first he laughed and said we couldn’t know, but I pushed (figuring this was probably my last chance at this interview). Turning serious, he said, “I would have gotten to know the people, the players, and who was doing what. I would have known whose string to pull when we needed to get something done.”

Whether or not that knowledge would have changed the tides of history in 2003 will have to remain an unknown, but the episode does challenge the accepted truth that Rumsfeld was uninterested in or unconcerned about post-war planning in Iraq. It is also consistent with his long-held belief that getting the right people is the key to success in any endeavor. And I learned a little something new about a man who has spent so many of his 78 years participating in the history of our nation. While I can in no way offer an unbiased appraisal of his book, I do hope that people interested in the events he witnessed will give Known and Unknown a serious read.

Oh, and Peggy Noonan–if you want to see something that is actually well-documented with copious notes, check this out.

COMMENTS

  • bobmontgomery

    …or the civil service, the traits of professionalism, dedication and patriotism cannot be overemphasized. Whatever transpired post-2003, can we just say that the administration had a pretty good team in place and we were fortunate to have them in 2001-2004? They were dealing with what they had been handed 1992-2000, and the alliances held up as well as could be expected and the economy buckled but did not collapse.

  • fpete13527

    I am crystal clear that Sec Rumsfeld cared about soldiers and that he was 100% committed to winning all levels of the objectives of both OIF and OEF.

    If anything, I wish that more of his intentions could have been further and more quickly acted upon and forwarded …instead of stifled by politics.

    One of the biggest detriments toward the end of Bush’s term, and most definitely under the current administration, is the unwillingness to define the root cause of the terror that we are fighting …..which is Islamic Fundamentalism (Sharia)…..NOT “criminal overseas activity.”

    Until Islamic Fundamentalism is acknowledged, defined, and allowed to be directly addressed, things will get worse and worse.

    I hope that the newly elected Congress has the courage to define Islamic Fundamentalism as the threat that we are fighting against and to make it clear that Islamic Fundamentalism ( and the violence that it demands against women and non-followers of Islam) has no place in the world today.

    Until this is made clear, and not camouflaged behind PC speech, there will be more incidents like Ft Hood and there will be more emerging Irans…….and much, much worse.

  • itrytobenice

    I love…love, love, love, having smart, talented people on our side. If not for you, and others like you, the leftist’s ownership of the meme would destroy us all. Our ability to accurately assess our leaders and their actions rely entirely on your shoulders and the shoulders of your compatriots.

    Thanks.

  • EagleWatcher

    The MSM and every Left-wing avenger went after Rumsfeld and the Bush Administration for Abu Ghraib. The same Left-wing avengers are trying to paper over the abortion doctor who murdered 7 babies with a pair of scissors.

    It seems like there should be a key on my keyboard that when I press it it inserts the entire phrase “hypocrisy of the Left” since I seem to be typing it all the time.

    The Left is OK with torture and murder as long as it happens in an abortion clinic.

  • janis

    who could write a comparable book after their time in government was over. There is not a single one with the brains, the dedication to service, and the patriotism of a man such as Mr. Rumsfeld. I’ll never forget how dispirited I was the day after the elections in 2006, when we had lost Congress to the Dems, then Mr. Rumsfeld resigned as well.

    Thank God for such men ! They provide a template of what government service should be, could be, and seldom is anymore. What a blessing for you that you got to know this fine man so well over the past 4 years and oh!, how I envy you for that.

    Thanks for coming hear and sharing with us, AE, it’s always so good to hear from you. Please show up more regularly now that the book is finished? RS needs your fine mind and writing.

  • Adjoran

    that the most qualified men, like Rumsfeld and Cheney, never seem able to garner enough of a political following to win the top job.

    • dmccracken

      due to the fact that politics reward those who compromise principle to “get along”. Hopefully that is changing, but it is what is has been.

  • southernpatriots

    We all have great admiration for Mr. Rumsfeld. We honor his long service to our country and his love for the servicemen and women. We salute you sir!

  • silkywiley

    After his resignation, I wrote a letter to the editorial page of the Deseret News and thanked him for his service. They published it but I didn’t go on the comments board to see how my skin was flayed. I couldn’t have withstood the attack. Amazingly here in conservative country, the majority of posters on the Salt Lake Tribune and the Deseret News comments board are rabid liberals and even self-named socialist and communists, not to mention spitting hissing anti-Mormons.

    If I couldn’t stand to read what would be written about me for thanking Rumsfeld for his service, I sure am an admirer for how he (and Cheney) withstood all the hatred and comtempt and held storng and did their service to the country. They are made of sterner stuff (thank God) than most men.

  • charlie09

    During the five years I lived and worked in DC, I had the opportunity to meet Sec. Rumsfeld on a few occasions, and what always struck me the most was how incredibly gracious he was. I was never important enough to demand any special regard from VIPs in Washington, just lucky enough to get to interact with some of them from time to time. While he certainly had a reputation for being tough as nails in a professional setting, in more social settings, I found him unfailingly kind and gracious, and I always appreciated that. Many in DC do not behave that way, needless to say!

  • 23rdamerical

    that sometimes we must learn of greatness through the filter of time and history. I believe that the Bush-era administration will emerge, as time marches on, to be one of the most patriotic and dedicated of modern times. Without all the venom-spewing, liberal taint on things accomplished by conservatives, I am convinced that Mr. Rumsfeld, Mr. Cheney, and others will be seen as they really are; great Americans who loved their country enough to suffer abuse from lesser men in order to get the job done.

  • sharonmcp

    Defector admits to WMD lies that triggered Iraq war

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/15/defector-admits-wmd-lies-iraq-war

    The defector who convinced the White House that Iraq had a secret biological weapons programme has admitted for the first time that he lied about his story, then watched in shock as it was used to justify the war.

    Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, codenamed Curveball by German and American intelligence officials who dealt with his claims, has told the Guardian that he fabricated tales of mobile bioweapons trucks and clandestine factories in an attempt to bring down the Saddam Hussein regime, from which he had fled in 1995.

    “Maybe I was right, maybe I was not right,” he said. “They gave me this chance. I had the chance to fabricate something to topple the regime. I and my sons are proud of that and we are proud that we were the reason to give Iraq the margin of democracy.”

    Curveball: How US was duped by Iraqi fantasist looking to topple Saddam

    Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi let imagination run wild and became main source for Colin Powell’s case for war in 2003

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/15/curveball-iraqi-fantasist-cia-saddam

    Curveball’s lies ? and the consequences

    Details of what the Iraqi defector said about WMD, and how it was used by Germany and the United States

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/15/curveballs-lies-consequences-iraqi-defector

    • aesthete

      I’m not sure what it has to do with this diary, though.

      @ Academic: that sounds like a really awesome job, and it sounds like you really enjoyed it. I will definitely be picking up the book: while I’m not a super-fan of Rumsfeld’s, it sounds like it will make for an interesting read.

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