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Obama has Green Dreams of Car Taxes


As Tabitha Hale noted yesterday, there seems to be no shortage of ways that this administration and the Democrat party can think of to tax away every bit of our nation’s prosperity.  But the “car tax” simply defies logic and begs the question, “What are they thinking?”

Aside from their apparent love of taxation, what is the underlying reason this administration would want to levy more taxes on America’s driving? Environmentalism?  Money for infrastructure investment?  Justify more hires at the IRS?

Actually, it’s because the treasury is starting to lose money.  In a glaring oversight about how taxing behavior works, the administration seems to believe that taxing driving will increase revenues as opposed to simply decreasing driving.  As Steve Maley pointed out today, it’s not as though the Democrats are in favor of doing much to bring the cost of oil down and the administration is no different.  In fact, part of their hope had originally been that higher gas prices would encourage the pursuit of more fuel efficient vehicles and of course green technology has played a huge role in every energy decision the Obama administration has made.  Whether they addressed the fact that lower gas consumption would result in lower revenues is hard to say.  They could very well have assumed a tax of this nature would address that problem.  Either way, here we are, revenues going down, and of course the government can’t get more efficient as cars do, so we are expected to pick up the tab.

One thing is certain, this is not good for the lower and middle classes of America.  Hybrid and electric cars are already more expensive than regular cars.  As such, not only would poor people have the increased cost of gasoline, which President Obama seems to be offering no indication he will do anything about, as well as the gas taxes that already exist and take as much as $0.70 per gallon already, but now they will need to pay an additional tax for simply driving the car at all.  One assumes that the high political cost of taxing the poor on such a basic necessity will introduce new progressive tax legislation that more than likely will exempt that same percentage of Americans that don’t pay income taxes from this newest burden as well.

But that will not shield the administration from all political cost when implementing a driving tax.  President Obama risks isolating and angering the segment of the population he is most dependent on for re-election in 2012.  The vaunted swing states may not take kindly to having to dig deeper into their pockets during a recession.  This is a big problem when job one is reconnecting with them:

From Politico:

Democratic officials are intently focused on three states that Obama won last time – Virginia, Colorado and Nevada – that provide different paths to victory as an alternative to the traditional dependence on Ohio and Florida.

Nevada is a traditional swing state whereas Colorado and Virginia had histories of going GOP until Obama made the scene.  It seems an odd time to be testing the patience of voters while simultaneously vowing to “focus” on them.

And what of people that drive for a living? Truck drivers, realtors, and salesmen would all be affected.  City and country government costs would go up unless they are exempt which would be equally infuriating to the public.  I foresee a series of waivers and tax credits further confusing our already confused tax code in order to give favors out to those that the Democrats want to excuse from punishment.

I’ve long said that the best way for tax reform to take hold in the national dialogue is for everyone to have to pay their taxes themselves as opposed to having them withheld.  The government has been very clever for years to hold people’s anger at bay by hiding these taxes: withholdings on paychecks, the payroll tax which creates the illusion that it’s paid by the employer (when in actuality we calculate that when determining your salary), or the gas taxes which are rolled right into the total with no differentiation between gas and tax.  These are ways to create an out of sight, out of mind mentality among the electorate.  I’m not sure yet how this administration thinks that they can pull this off with how closely the public keeps an eye on the cost of driving their car.

I’ll be surprised if this car tax happens before 2012 given the political cost associated.  However, President Obama has shown in the past his desire to punish American’s to fulfill his green dreams.  If he wins in 2012, all bets are off.

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  • izoneguy

    R E D I S T R I B U T I O N

    • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

      R E T R I B U T I O N

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    The Leftists hate oil. They think greenhouse gases are going to be the end of the world. They hate the prosperous, self-sufficient middle class. They hate suburbia and spacious middle class homes. They hate rural, conservative, America. They want people to abandon the suburbs for the cities. They want us to abandon our cars for mass transit. They need a means to make their green agenda materialize. They attack the energy sector to drive up the cost of gasoline and heating our homes. They propose a mileage tax to get around fuel efficiency allowing people to stay in the suburbs by linking the price of driving by distance rather than by fuel consumption. They hope this forces people to move out of the burbs, abandon their cars for mass transit, beg the government for subsidies, and embrace “clean” energy.

    • Common_Cents

      A few self proclaimed educated elites knowing whats best for the rest of the unwashed masses. Driving us into cramped housing, dependent on government transportation.

      They hate oil/gas to the extent that it provides independent freedom.

  • Deskpilot

    but a lot of other technology has to be in place to support it. A gas pump for a hybrid that recognizes the car and reads the odometer and calculates the tax as a function of miles driven. That car then reports WHERE it drove, so that the appropriate jurisdiction gets it FAIR share of revenue.
    That last part is the burr in the saddle. We Americans have become increasingly aware of governments intrusiveness, and we are not going to let them into our car’s system to see where we’ve been.
    Imaging the “UNFAIRNESS,” if a Prius owner lives in the relatively low altitude area of Lebanon NH, and commutes to Killington ski Area. If he only buys gas in NH, and places demand on snow removal and most of his driving on VT highways. NH gets the revenues, but VT has the extra expense. Oh the unfairness of it. Somebody needs to be sued.

    • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

      that it is a tax ON TOP f all our other taxes. It it were a replacement for income or FICA taxes, then I might favor it. But it is not, as such it will only futher drag down the economy.

  • lineholder

    to become very, very creative in sending the message of “no more taxes”.

    You know, like going full steam to start carpooling where they can. We get to keep our gas-guzzlers, and since we aren’t putting as many miles on them when we carpool, the government doesn’t get that bump in increased revenues that they are looking for. What’s more, our cars last longer.

    So, yeah, I know it means making a change of habits, and it goes against the grain for most of us. But it might be better to take the initiative in defining what those changes will be on our own terms than to get bled dry financially.

    • lineholder

      by starting up private sector carpooling services? It’s a far better way to travel than the government’s form of public transportation, and there would be no TSA patdowns to endure, right?

  • 1stRichard

    The ultimate goal is to go all ?green?, we want to change our cars to run on electricity (our government has already spent billions for a car battery) but to do this we need something green, this is wind and/or solar power. This seems to be a simple conversion, 746 watts equals one horsepower, and an average car is about 200 horsepower (some much more) or 149,200 watts. There are some 254,400,000 cars in the US or equivalent to 37,956,480,000,000 watts. Forgoing the math on conversion and transmission loss, and all the others factors how close is this lower horsepower come to equaling wind and/or solar power. Wind turbines run from 25,000 to 2,500,000 watts, using the middle number of that is 1,262,500. That would mean we need 30,064,539 windmills to equal the power output in our cars. There are 3,794,083 square miles (including water) in the US or a windmill planted every 8 miles, which is why the middle number is more realistic so we may have a chance of planting one of these in your back yard. Next, add in the service to households, there are about 130,000,000 households in the US, mostly with 100 amp service (with others having 200 or more amp service) or 12,000 watts each or over 1,560,000,000,000 watts total. Again, the lower number chosen for an example. Now we are up to 39,516,480,000,000 watts or 31,300,182 windmills or a windmill placed almost every tenth of a mile. The good news is that if we use the larger windmills they would only have to be placed every 6 miles but the bad news is the much larger sector, our industry and jobs also needs power. For photovoltaic solar panels, 125 square feet equals about 100 watts sunny day idealistically, realistically they only work half the day, we do have a cloudy day or two and have a notable conversion loss going from DC to AC, thus more realistically 50 watts. To produce the 39,516,480,000,000 watts service we have now we would need 3,543,646 square miles of solar panels out of the 3,794,083 square miles (including water) in the US. Again, this does not include our industry and jobs but there is good news, the government is only trying to mandate some of our energy to come from renewable resources such as wind and/or solar power for starters. In some states it is reportedly up to forty percent. The next step would be to add in our industry and jobs, then figure in averages and percentages, but there is simply no more space with wind and/or solar power, this proposed green economy would not fit. We have some choices to be made here on this path to ?green? and they include extreme rationing of power and/or eliminating our industries and jobs. Steps such as simply changing a light bulb or other self imposed rationing cannot solve this problem, there is not enough there to make a difference. No nukes, no dames that hurt the fish, of course no oil equals back almost back to the Stone Age. Has anyone taken this math problem to the end, take the services we have now (not the idealist projections so often used but actual services we should be able to purchase) to the end? Will we need to get out and push our cars uphill because they are so underpowered? Will we be limited to ten amps of service in our households? Will we have room to grow food?

    • luvnthebigsites

      :P

    • 4life

      Indiana, don’t forget to throw into the calculation that about one in ten (it seemed to me) wind turbines are still as stone on a windy day, and of course, there are a percentage of windless days that must be factored in as well.

    • steve010

      Federal Ocean cooling technicians

      These people would be charged with the task of cooling the global oceans and large bodies of water since 95% of Co2 is emitted by the 2/3rds of the earth that is water. If the water is cooler then there is less Co2 emitted. These jobs would be filled by people on large boats with large ice makers. Huge solar panels and windmills would be used to power the ice makers. These jobs would entail shoveling ice into the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean to cool the water. More than 2 million jobs could be created in this category. No alcoholic beverages would be allowed on these boats as the presence of ice would be a temptation

  • lineholder

    it was the financial support coming from grassroots that was most effective in Nov. 2010, correct?

    If this mileage tax gets pushed through any time soon, what are the chances that Dems might be hoping that this (along with other increase in costs and taxes) cut down the expendable income of grassroots, hoping that it renders us moot in 2012?

    • http://theheartlander.wordpress.com/ heartlander

      Jeez, I hadn’t even thought of that angle.
      But THEY probably have.
      After all — thanks to Soros and the public sector unions — THEY have, for all practical purposes, unlimited campaign cash.

      • 4life

        Don’t forget the money they have to throw around. It must be alot, because they sure have plenty of pull with the Dems.

  • Change Jar Conservative

    Even if you want to do this(which you shouldn’t), just make it a gas tax.

    It will approximate a mileage tax anyways AND there is a KISS mechanism already in place.

    • ChicaGOP

      Urban (i.e., democrat) voters don’t drive as much. Many don’t even have cars. They, more than anyone else, rely on big government largesse simply to make it through the day – even if they HAVE jobs. After all, riding the CTA for a buck and a quarter is only possible through subsidies sourced from non-riding taxpayers.

      People who drive a lot are suburban and rural. Those people are more likely republican, and a favorite target of both the party apparatus and their frothing minions in the cities (nota bene, I live in the city of Chicago).

      Bottom line, it’s a tax on people who are less likely to depend on government.

    • blooch

      believed their utopia could succeed if all their ideas were given a chance to be fully implemented simultaneously in one place, whereas today’s progressive totalitarians believe their utopia can succeed if modern metrics and tracking technology are aggressively used to control behavior.

      Nobody likes taxes,..not even progressives. Taxes are obsolete, archaic and inefficient, but they’ll use them to test their control technologies until the wonderful dawn when they control you by the pittance they digitally ration to you, instead of the fortune they now must stoop to take from you.

      They are not the least bit interested in keeping it simple.

  • http://www.tooncesthecat.wordpress.com tooncesthecat

    And did you expect Obama to stop with just taxing millionaires and billionaires. This is right out of Bill Clinton’s playbook. He also promised to increase taxes on wealthy Americans and then raised everyone’s taxes. How? In the 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, in addition to creating the 39.5% and 36% tax brackets for “wealthy Americans”, he also increased the gasoline tax by 4.3 cents per gallon. The problem for Obama is that electric cars don’t use gasoline and hybrids use significantly less gasoline. Thus the necessity to tax miilage, not gasoline. As noted, this also allows the Democrats to buy votes by giving a mileage tax rebate to voters in the lower income brackets. They don’t call ‘em “Tax and Spend Liberals” for nothing.

  • johnt

    Unless you have your car for the sole purpose of filling a space in your garage. This is only another way of increasing a tax you are already paying. A name change is necessary of course, surprised the nazi’s didn’t call it something like “The Save Starving Children From Cannibalistic Republicans Act”.
    Essentially there is only one aim, to hurt, to cause pain, to give your hate a little more exercise. I wonder if LittleLiberals, any of them, are starting to get it.

  • rowdydfw

    the progressives find themselves in and RUSH to FIX it is always made worse instead of better. This is why we’re in the mell of a hess we’re in. As a sociologist, after stepping back and taking a good look at current sociological trends, progressives/commies/liberals (whatever their new buzz word is) have serious problem solving skills because they lack the ability to apply logic and truth/reality. Visions of utopia, rainbows, and pink unicorns preclude understanding truth/reality. And logic is nothing more than math. They don’t understand it, so they just make things up that give the appearance of arriving safely from one place to another. The green energy(non-existent)/gas tax/expensive green cars/overzealous cash for clunkers(failure)/loss of money/loss of revenue is a prime example of their intervention gone totally ‘wonky’! It is why we can never allow them full control of anything ever again. Some may have good ideas, some are just manipulators/scammers, but usually their results of their clear attempts at social enggineering is just doing the same thing over and over again, yet they expect a different result each time they do it. And you know what that’s called.

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    the certain political suicide of dealing with the ponzi scheme of social security…
    the certain political suicide of dealing with massive fraud and waste through entitlement programs…
    the certain political suicide of making the tax code “truly fair”…

    And yet while Iran’s top cleric arrests people in their government that they don’t like for “sorcery or witchcraft” the O is set to downgrade the war on terror and give Iran a complete pass to getting it’s grubby hands on building nukes like our “ally” (in name only) Pakistan…

    sigh…

    Happy Mother’s day etc.

  • gunslingr45

    the unions be exempt form this like obamb lama care?

    It sucks to be a liberal when you run out of OPM (other people’s money.)

  • leehazel

    The long range goal of the Progressive/Liberal/Collectivist is to cut the legs from under the American. One of the key factors that has made America the unique (read: exceptional) country that it is is the people’s mobility. We can come and go as we please where we please.
    The Collectivist Utopia envisioned by the Global Fascists and our home grown collectivists (eg Alinsky’s Urban Communists and the US version of Mussolini (aka Corporate) Fascism) can not be established if the people have free run of their city/county/state/nation.
    We are already well into the phase of pricing transportation fuel to the point of restricting travel. The electric car is next, you sure can’t go very far.
    Obama’s potential mileage tax accomplishes two key goals of the “Control” Administration. It adds a further cost to remove additional people from the “roads”. And, the technology necessary to make this work will tell Big Brother precisely where and when you are using your personal car.
    Man the Community Organizer never rests.