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Americans Support Voter I.D.

Voter I.D. is a fairly simple concept.  People vote.  When they vote, some would like to have the voter provide proof that they are who they claim they are.  Seems reasonable enough given the importance of voting.

So of course it has been vilified by the national media and Democrats have called it, you guessed it, racist.

“In America, we should be trying to include people in the voting process.  This law excludes people.  It reminds us in the bad days of old, all the things we’ve done to exclude people, particularly African Americans at the time from voting,” said Rivers.

Don’t you see?  Requiring an I.D. is basically the same as segregation and maybe even slavery!

In fact, the Democrats believe that requiring people to prove that they are who they are prior to voting, is a “scheme” to win elections:

“This is about putting up obstacles to legal voters being able to exercise the franchise,” says Scot Ross, executive director of One Wisconsin Now, an advocacy group that opposes the changes. “That is the scheme that the Republicans have concocted on this.”

Isn’t it great how Democrats automatically assume that minorities and the poor are automatically Democrat voters?

Luckily, Republicans seem to be prepared to fight on this issue.

Last week, a conference call took place with Chairman of the RNC, Reince Priebus, RNLA Chairman, David Norcross, and Rep. Todd Rokita to discuss this issue.

A read of the transcript of the call paints a picture of an issue that should be a winner for Republicans as it is something that the American people, by and large, support.

According to Norcross:

A June, 2011, Rasmussen Poll had 75% of Americans believing voters should be required to show photo ID. This breaks down into 85% of Republicans , 77% of Independents, and 63% of Democrats.

In fact, says Norcross, the fraud is worse than you may realize:

The Milwaukee police department reported some detailed fraud in 2004 Presidential election in Wisconsin. The Colorado Secretary of State found last year that 5000 non-citizens voted in their Senate race. Which was decided by a close margin, and probably all will remember Minnesota in 2008 when more ineligible voters were identified than the margin between the winning and losing Senate candidates.

Rep. Rokita noted that the Democrat talking points in opposition to Voter I.D. amounted to a hill of beans:

All the ‘sky is falling’ arguments that were made in accusation of what was billed as some kind of draconian, or tyrannical law never came to pass, in fact our voting went up 2 percent as we introduced the photo ID law. We attribute that to the confidence that the law inspired in the voting public.

According to one of the sky is falling reports from South Carolina, “Officials estimate as many as 180,000 voters statewide could be disenfranchised by the law requiring photo IDs to vote,” though who these officials are and how they came to this conclusion is not referenced.

Norcross says that other states indicate this is more than likely hogwash:

And as for people don’t have photo ID, American University Center for Democracy in Election Management found recently that 99% of eligible voters posses the proper ID.

In all, it’s pretty clear that the facts are on our side to finally make some real steps to helping prevent voter fraud.

Full transcript of the call below.

Rep. Todd Rokita: Thank you, I appreciate everyone joining. I just have a quick set of remarks for purposes of just you know my background there just called votes here on the floor of the House so I don’t have too much time; I want to get to your questions. Before I came to Congress this session I was Indiana Secretary Of State for eight years and became the poster child; so to speak, of that first photo ID movement or wave. Our case went all the way to United States Supreme Court as you may know. On April 4th I believe or 8th 2008 we got the decision handed down, it wasn’t even five to four. It was six to three and by the time the United States Supreme court decision came down upholding voter ID we had probably three or four elections maybe four or five already in the state of Indiana with great success. All the ‘sky is falling’ arguments that were made in accusation of what was billed as some kind of draconian, or tyrannical law never came to pass, in fact our voting went up 2 percent as we introduced the photo ID law. We attribute that to the confidence that the law inspired in the voting public.

 

RNLA Chairman David Norcross: I’m David Norcross. I’m the Chairman of the Republican National Lawyers Association. Photo ID and fair elections have been sort of the forefront of our efforts for a good many years. But we have seen recently what I suspect many of you have, a cynical and calculated and coordinated effort by the Democrats to spread lies about the reasons for and effect of voter ID. In fact, most Americans support voter ID. A June, 2011, Rasmussen Poll had 75% of Americans believing voters should be required to show photo ID. This breaks down into 85% of Republicans , 77% of Independents, and 63% of Democrats. Voter fraud is real. This is not anybody’s imagination. The Milwaukee police department reported some detailed fraud in 2004 Presidential election in Wisconsin. The Colorado Secretary of State found last year that 5000 non-citizens voted in their Senate race. Which was decided by a close margin, and probably all will remember Minnesota in 2008 when more ineligible voters were identified than the margin between the winning and losing Senate candidates. In addition to what, and in support of what, the Congressman said, a University of Missouri study analyzing the effect of Indiana’s voter ID law found that it had no effect of voter turnouts in counties with higher concentrations of minorities, poor, elderly, and less educated. This is not a Republican partisan issue in spite of what the DNC chairman, Democrat Senators, and former President Clinton have been saying in recent days. Just last month the Democrat controlled Legislature in Rhode Island passed a voter ID bill. The Governor signed it. It was sponsored by an African-American Democrat Senator. And as for people don’t have photo ID, American University Center for Democracy in Election Management found recently that 99% of eligible voters posses the proper ID. Really the purpose for this call is to make sure that we preserve this initiative, keep it going, and that we protect voter ID and the rights of legitimate voters.

 

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus: Hey… Well thank you David, and obviously Congressman for being on the call. I just wanted to make sure that the folks out there have a chance to talk to the Congressman about the law changes that he has been involved with and keep my comments really short. I mean obviously this was something that was really near and dear to me. I think that we need to make it easy to vote, hard to cheat, and I think that that’s a mantra that we ought to shout from the rooftops all over the country as a Party. I come from a state and Milwaukee that’s famous, if you read chapter 9 in John Hunt’s book they’ll tell you all about it. We’re the only state in the country where you actually have a Milwaukee police department issuing a 70 plus page report concluding that voter fraud and manipulation and confusion and disorganization is a disaster. So I mean this is very real. I want to leave the rest of the time that we do have with the Congressman available and obviously we can, you can all reach Brittney and get to us but getting questions into the Congressman, that time is precious. So thank you everybody and do appreciate the Congressman and David making this call a reality. Thanks.

COMMENTS

  • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

    The term loses all of its power as an epithet of opprobium.

  • Scope

    You have to jump through hoops to get a driver’s license in many states, and the proof requirements are stringent. In Va, I had to have a birth certificate, a Social Security card, and a utility bill showing my name and address on it. This past year, when my license expired, I was late renewing it by a few days. Because it had expired, I had to go through the whole proof process again.

    If I am not mistaken, weren’t there some people who were against a Voter ID because it was an infringement on their right to privacy, or something like that? Of course they would be the people who also see black helicopters circling their homes, and who believe our own government brought down the World Trade Center buildings.

    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

      from participating in national elections.

  • Scope

    won’t have any chance of passing in the current Congress, or getting past Obama’s desk. It would be a good top issue to list for the 113th Republican takeover though.

    • acat

      Work it in State-by-State. Some States already require ID, IIRC.

      Didn’t the Wisconsin GOP just ram something like this through while their Dem counterparts were vacationing in Illinois? Should be interesting to see how much the vote totals in Madison, Whitewater, Milwaukee, and Oshkosh drop as U-W students are suddenly ineligible…

      Mew

      • Scope

        with the highest population numbers, the highest numbers of illegals and the highest incidence of fraud would not pass this law. Isn’t the purpose of the proposal to keep voter fraud from occurring everywhere. Voter fraud, especially in national elections, is a federal issue, not a state by state issue. Voter fraud in NY and CA alone has the potential to swing an election.

        • acat

          The POTUS is *not* a majority-wins election.

          What other nationwide races are there?

          Mew

          • Scope

            I’m referring to voter fraud, not how the president is elected.

          • acat

            You started by saying it can’t pass federally today. I said “work at the State level”.

            I didn’t say “quit”. I didn’t say “don’t bring it up in 2013″. I suggested working to get local changes in place because even if we don’t get a federal law, we’ll have a better chance at flipping or retaining State houses and governorships with voter ID than without. Every State has has fraud, so running with an anti-fraud position should be a no-brainer for Conservatives, right down to the State Rep level.

            I also gave an example of how Wisconsin pushed or tried to push this through.

            I also brought up that one of the advantages to the electoral college is that fraud in OH (or IL) affects only the EC votes from OH (or IL) for POTUS… if we had a simple majority system, then the fraud would affect the entire race.

            That there’s an existing constitutional safeguard against vote fraud (admittedly, only one of the things the EC protects against) should be cited to anyone who objects based on it being “unnecessary”. Sorry it confused you.

            Mew

          • Scope

            with you. I posted my support of a national voter ID. I asked how the electoral college had anything to do with voter fraud. I choose not to go down your right and left turns, your rabbit holes, your numerous questions on my simple support of a national voter ID. Call me dumb, call me someone who has no debating skills, call me someone who doesn’t have a clue. Perhaps someone else wants to get into the debate weeds with you, and discuss every nuance for a voter ID law, however, we’ve both been through these circular arguments before. I do not wish to engage your curiosity, that never ends or comes to any conclusions, or solutions. Hey, I’m sure you will have many, much smarter people than me, that will be willing to engage your mind.

  • rcatheart

    This whole thing is getting so ridiculous. You have to show ID to *register* to vote – what in Heaven’s name is wrong with having to show the same ID when you show up to actually vote?

    I needed 2 forms of ID to get a flipping *library card* this year.

    How do all of these unidentified people running around manage to make it through life? Apparently none of them drive, none of them go to school, none of them have a job, none of them have a bank account, none of them travel by air, none of them ever get carded at a bar, none of them write checks or ever have their credit card checked against a photo ID.

    • blogan2

      In Minnesota, you can register to vote if your neighbor comes down and certifies you live in the district. Also, if someone can “hijack” someone else’s registration, it’s more votes.

      • rcatheart

        I forgot about that insane policy.

  • gekster

    It costs $10.00, and is free to 65 yrs or older, or if legally blind.
    $10.00 is not a burden on the poor, so there is no excuse for not having one.
    And since everyone has to have one, it is not racists, as the only requirement is to be a Michigan resident.

  • funwithknives

    there is a grocery chain in s/e michigan (buschs) that cards all liquor sales and the register has a lock out unless I D is shown, Sale cannot be finaled until clerk follows Programmed Protocol. Good enough for Booze? Good enough to vote. who was it that said: “TRUST, but verify” Ron WHO?

  • johnnyd

    are just a crooked as Obama and the Dems. Then when there is a clear discrepancy in votes or proof of voter fraud nothing is ever done about it after the fact.

    He who counts the votes wins.

    It has already been documented that George Soros has been backing Secretary of States in battleground States and is trying to do what Democrats do, cheat the system.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/23/section-527-works-to-seat-liberals-as-election-ove/

    It was shown that illegal voters may have decided the MN Senate race.

    “The final recount vote in the race, determined six months after Election Day, showed Franken beat Coleman by 312 votes — fewer votes than the number of felons whose illegal ballots were counted, according to Minnesota Majority’s newly released study, which matched publicly available conviction lists with voting records.

    Furthermore, the report charges that efforts to get state and federal authorities to act on its findings have been “stonewalled.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/12/felons-voting-illegally-franken-minnesota-study-finds/#ixzz1SZY7QcUR

    It is good to see the GOP finally trying to do something about voter fraud but when you have SEIU union members in charge of the voting machines and counts in Arizona, you have a system that is not in the best interest of fair and free voting in America.

    We need to keep it simple stupid and make voting day a holiday so that everyone has the time and opportunity to vote in person and not by mail. It is a scary trend where voting is taken place by mail and not in person so that the voter can be verified and cannot vote more than once.

    I would also say we need to adopt the same thought and possibly the same method as used in Iraq, everyone needs to have their finger dipped in special ink/dye or some other method to mark a voter after they have voted to ensure they only vote once. It would also put peer presure on people to vote because everyone would be able to see who contributed to our country and who has not.

    Most Americans take for granted the right to vote, i was one of them when I was younger.

    • gekster

      I have pushed for this since it was imposed for voting in Iraq.
      If it is good enough for them, then it is good enough for us.
      But you know that the left will cry racism, because then thier supporters can only vote once.

  • msctex

    If we could raise the issue of Disenfranchisement to the forefront of national debate, and adjust our laws so that Voter Fraud were punishable by say, ten years in prison per count, we could take an enormous step forward. The accepted definition of Disenfranchisement needs to be expanded to include the crime of the homeless guy in Philadelphia paid to vote five times in a national election, negating the votes of four in Pennsylvania. This is a flag currently waved by the Dems, which we need to wrest away once and for all, as it is our side which is most damaged by far.

    It would be yet another example of the Dems being steadfastly opposed, yet incredibly vulnerable when forced to explain precisely why that would be. Their current position is incredibly weak: they simply pretend the problem does not exist.

  • ashland_avenue

    Recently I was listening to http://www.latinousa.org/maria-hinojosa/ Maria Inajosa’s radio program as played on WBEZ, Public Radio in Chicago.

    The program revolved around a discussion with the White House official for Latino relations.

    Among the issues her program lobbied for:: elimination of Voter ID in American elections.

    Any guesses as to why?