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I Need a Hero.

Last night’s debate has left me frustrated and disappointed. Putting aside for a moment that at times, the debate audiences are living embodiments of lefty stereotypes by applauding people dying without insurance and booing gay soldiers, the fact is this was supposed to be our election.

President Obama has lurched us so far to the left of mainstream American values as to make his re-election the fevered dream of a madman.  We had a financial meltdown worse than any in decades, which left our country so desperate that we elected an inexperienced, one term Senator and former community organizer who promptly took what was terrible and made it catastrophic.

The numbers are in and they are not good.  Unemployment staying high, consumer confidence is low, approval ratings low, the world laughs at our weakness while Iran arms itself and Israel is targeted.

I saw a bumper sticker last year that said, “If Jimmy Carter gave us Reagan, then Barack Obama should give us GOD.”  This is not yet turning out to be true. Things seem quite the opposite really.  So far the only thing I see Barack Obama giving us is four more years of Barack Obama.

Instead of an assemblage of our best and brightest, articulating the values and ideals put forth so clearly by the tea party these last three years, we seem to have a panel of damaged goods best relegated to sniping at each other or making statements that cause their staunchest allies to stare in bewilderment.I used to like Michele Bachmann, but she lost me when she started screaming about 12 year old little girls every 5 minutes and seemed to believe that fostering 368 children qualifies her above the other candidates. She regularly attempts to appeal to the basest of emotions while trying to convince people she was the tip of the spear in Congress. My recollection of her time in Congress seems to revolve around fancy speeches and symbolic actions that moved the ball neither forward or backward. Also, she has big hair.

Santorum is great if he could escape the dungeon of single digit polling and focus a little less on the gaypocalypse. As Erick noted earlier, his answers made him sound like someone that would earn a nickname from Mark Halperin.

Newt says awesome stuff, but he seems to be working harder to tweak the debate topics rather than be president.  If he wasn’t Newt, I have no doubt he could be a frontrunner. Since we have memory of the things he’s said and done since being in Congress, he continues to poll where he probably should poll.  He has a great future in news contributing.

Ron Paul is an anti-Semitic insane person.

Gary Johnson is Ron Paul with less charisma.

Herman Cain is a great guy but he can’t seem to escape relative obscurity. Not to mention that his 9,9,9 plan creates a new tax, tax, tax.

John Huntsman is so slimy in his approach, I keep waiting for him to rip his skin off and reveal that he’s actually John Edwards.

Mitt Romney is a solid leader. Unfortunately, what he wants to lead us to might be so far from the ideals we’ve been espousing as to make one wonder why we bothered protesting in the first place. Plus: Romneycare people. Romneycare!? Are you kidding me?

And now Perry is losing me.  In spite of what people think, I only battled what I considered silly vetting because i wanted to see what he was made of on my own, without beinf distracted by “true conservative” screams that he’s a commie who wants to strap kids to tables and forcibly inject them with a dose of mental retardation.  Now that he’s been in a few debates, I feel that I’ve seen what he’s made of, and it makes me sad.  He seems to have the debate skills of a mute foreign exchange student with all the wit of John Kerry.  Meanwhile he uses lefty tactics like telling people that disagree with him that they “don’t have a heart.” When you have the highest job creation in the country during a recession that many blame on the incumbent, and you can’t get a Luntz panel to remember that because you spoke with all of the coherence of a dental patient with a numbed mouth, you may have issues in the generals.

I suppose that leaves Mrs. Palin, but she is for some reason continuing to stay out of a debate that she could potentially be scoring home runs in to help rehabilitate her image, which, despite what she may be being told, she would need to do to have a shot at the White House.   Meanwhile, while she sits it out, I have Palinistas going so insane that they make Paulbots looks positively reasonable.  While anyone would enjoy being told they aren’t a patriot unless they support someone that isn’t even running, that’s just not in the cards for me and many, many others.  No matter her good points I just can’t spend my energy on someone who isn’t running.  And even if she does get in, there’s no guarantee that she’ll be everything she’s been hyped to be or that she won’t end up disappointing as Perry has.

Who does that leave?  Will the candidates step it up and get it together?  Will someone else jump in that will fulfill the prophecy that I saw on the bumper sticker of a used Honda?

I don’t know. What I do know, is if we lose to Barack Obama in 2012, Democrats and the media will view it as a mandate.  And where they’ll try to take our country as a result will make these last 3 years seem like a cake walk.

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  • Common_Cents

    There are no heroes.

    There has to be a mass change in thinking of the American people and take action ourselves to hold these DC elites accountable/replace them.

    I see us more and more jumping on various bandwagons looking for our own version of savior Obama. I see that a bit with Perry now. That is a bit concerning.

    Reagan said it best, freedom isn’t passed on genetically, generationally, it is earned.

    America has to wake up, we get the government we deserve. DC elites do not give us the country we deserve.

    • Ben Howe

      The hero is rescuing me from these awful candidates, not rescuing America from itself.

      • Common_Cents

        Many conservatives are hoping for someone they can get really excited about, including me.

        • Repair_Man_Jack

          I totally went Fred-head in 2008. Silly me. This debate made me quite happy that I only went into The Perry Tank up to my waist.

      • porkandcheese

        “You hate brown people” < "You want to kill grandma" IMO

        Then crickets from the rest of this worthless field. Perry has a point, though. If you disrupt an immigrant's education and financially penalize them because of their parents' mistakes, then you are heartless. At least Perry stands for what he believes him, and I think the TX Dream Act helps him in the general.

    • Common_Cents

      Each person doing their part to preserve our country.

      That is why Cold Warrior’s Precinct Project is so important. Citizen involvement, not taking responsible governing for granted.

      • rightwingmom52

        Do you know how many friends have asked me what they can do to help? I tell them to come with me to a tea party meeting, not a rally but our monthly meeting that often includes speakers and/or some kind of training session. I tell them to come with me to our local GOP meetings which are only 4x a year. I tell them to come here to read and learn more about issues/candidates. I tell them to go on our tea party & GOP websites and join in the discussion or donate to the cause. Think any of them have taken me up on it?

        There’s always going to be a ball game or dance recital or bunko night. It’s not called sacrifice for nothing. And if not now, when? After 2012, it may very well be too late.

        • Common_Cents

          It really irks me when people poo poo Tea Party rallies as they are an integral part of awareness, hopefully leading down the line to many becoming active, like you have. What if coca cola decided to stop marketing?

          It’s a process over time, one person at a time just like you have. People will at least be aware there are ways to get involved when they decide it is in their best interest to make time in their lives to take some action.

          Squeaky wheel gets the grease in DC. No matter how principled of people we send there. Short of Jesus himself, anyone will be compromised in that meat grinder of DC. So we do need a solid ground game to continuously hold our elected elites’ feet to the fire.

          Bravo on your efforts!

    • earlgrey

      people to sit back and let him do the fighting for us. This is because he was so remarkable.

      Don’t get me wrong we need a good leader, but it doesn’t seem that the people that voted for Reagan did much to advance conservatism except to vote for Reagan, and when his terms were up we all just let the media and the establishment republican lead us around by the nose.

      • xscd

        earlgray quotes “arrogance masquerading as righteousness” as an appropriate description for liberals.

        While that does often seem to be the case, “ignorance masquerading as righteousness” often seems an appropriate description of (far-right) conservatives. Just wanted to add that for balance.

        • earlgrey

          proven my point.

          And just how do you define conservatives as being ignorant? I know that is a popular meme on the left. It has been used almost as much as racism against conservatives. Have you noticed we don’t care anymore?

          I am afraid that if you weren’t so wrapped up in your own conceit, and took the time to actually read conservative papers and learn about the real challenges facing our nation, rather than letting liberal outlets spoon feed you like the baby you so desparately want to be, you would realize dear reader that it is you that have been played for a fool.

          BTW, if conservatives are so stupid and liberalism is the way to go, how come Europe is going down the tubes?

          • xscd

            I’m just saying that the view from both extremes often looks similar.

          • earlgrey

            do you just like to stoke the fires?

          • xscd

            –in reading, learning and trying to develop an understanding of the range of conservative viewpoints. I tend to appreciate the thoughtful comments and have learned to disregard or dismiss others that I feel are too purely and merely inflammatory or based on religion, not ideology. I enjoy learning about non-religious conservatism. Of the candidates on stage last night, I felt the most empathy for Ron Paul, Mitt Romney and to a lesser extent Herman Cain, and the least for Rick Santorum and Michele Bachmann, because their personal religious views play too large a part in their conception of public policy and law.

          • earlgrey

            What is about conservatives that makes you think we are all ignorant?

            To be fair, I think a great example of arrogance was shown by Elizabeth Warren running for Senate in MA. Her video talking about how no one make it on their own in America is condescending at best (IMO). For someone who has never built anything of her own (having worked in academic/government bureaucratic instituions) she seems to have an almost hostile attitude towards people who do build things and factories and so forth. When unemployment is bad, inflation is high, this seems like a really bad attitude to take and I wouldn’t be running a business in her state (or what she wants to turn the country into).

            As for the non-religious aspects of conservatism, I don’t feel like faith has been a large part of my conservative beliefs. I have wavered and religion is not a significant part of my life, but I have always been conservative. So I am a little disappointed (but I do understand) when people indicate faith as being the overriding theme of conservatism.

            If that makes any sense. you have already indirectly called me ignorant :) so you probably aren’t expecting much (a bit of a joke).

          • xscd

            Thank you very much for your reply. I was just mentioning how some on the left could see some on the right, not expressing my own opinion. There are ignorant, stupid and fanatical people on both sides of course, although I try to overlook the flaws and instead try to focus on what might be of value on both sides.

            I already understand the left (warts and all) from being part of that side for so long, but I’m trying to gain an understanding of the right as well, because I know that those on the right have a world view and values that they hold dear for good reason, or at least what to them seem like good reasons.

            Your comments about the part religion has (not) played in your own conservatism are interesting, and thanks for sharing them.

          • earlgrey

            and the snarkiness of my first reply to you. I was just reminded the other day not to be snarky and I did it again. There are some nice people on this site, and usually I am one of them. There are some toughies too.

            I am no authority, but if you’d like to read some conservative writings not influenced by religion than you might read SE Cupp (she is a conservative atheist) and blogger Allahpundit at Hot Air, also an atheist. Not saying you are an atheist, but if you want conservative commentary without the religous bias– those might be places to start.

            You’ll see I removed my tagline. Or at least I tried too. They changed the format of the website on me. I’d like to put something clever in there, but I don’t have time right now. Getting ready to leave town for business tomorrow.

            I know that some conservative say some things that make me cringe and want to run for the hills, but I am sure that is the case on the other side as well. Give it a chance.

            Cheers!

  • artist4freedom

    Perry used the old Progressive come-back: “Well, you just don’t have a heart.” The reason we’re buried under a mountain of debt, out of control deficits and excessive regulation is because far too many Republicans have tried to prove that they “have a heart.” As a result, our children, grandchildren, etc. are SCREWED. And I think that’s pretty “heartless.”

  • earlgrey

    way I feel this morning. I was for Perry without knowing him by default. Now I don’t know what to do.

    If Romney is the nominee is the conservative dream gone?

    If Obama wins another term is there any chance we can take the Senate/House and put the brakes on some of his agenda?

    • Repair_Man_Jack

      at gunpoint, can be made to act like a Conservative. Romney, at gunpoint can pass the bill that was the model for ObamaCare. It all depends upon who pushes him. Will it be us or the Left. That is the only question.

      • Jim Tomasik

        The same people who could not stop him from getting elected in the first place?

        • Repair_Man_Jack

          It may be that there is no legitimately conservative organization in American politics.

      • rightwingmom52

        I know there are folks here who hate the idea of candidates signing pledges, etc., but if I’d like to see the candidates have to answer a checklist of questions, perhaps based on the GOP platform. My dream list would include.the following and a simple yes or no answer would suffice (not necessarily submitted in this order and just off the top of my head).

        Do you promise to do everything in your power to

        1. repeal Obamacare and enact practical health reform such as (fill in w/specifics)?

        2. cut these wasteful programs and unnecessary, over-reaching regulation (fill in w/specifics)?

        3. appoint conservative judges across the board (point out Romney’s record as being what not to do)?

        4. secure the border, streamline the citizenship process, introduce a guest or migrant worker program and/or support a reasonable practical approach to deal with those illegals here that does not include amnesty (fill in w/specifics like e-verify, Voter ID)?

        5. reform the current tax code (again, specifics)?

        6. instruct the AG to defend DOMA?

        7. instruct the AG to prosecute those who break the law and stop targeting those who don’t (see Fast & Furious and Gibson)?

        8. audit the Fed (okay, I just threw that in for fun to see the reaction – really)?

        9. use the bully pulpit to support pro life initiatives around the country (not sure what else the POTUS can do except be a vocal supporter of pro life issues, but I’d certainly like to see that and am open to any other suggestions)?

        10. reform and streamline SS and entitlements (specifics that include attacking the fraud and totally revamping SS)?

        I’m sure I’ve left things out, but it’s a start. The simplified version is:

        Do you promise on your first day to undo what Obama and the Dems have done and then listen to the regulars at redstate and follow their advice re what to do for the rest of your term?

        (And, Roll Tide!)

        • Repair_Man_Jack

          the lack of accountability and malleability of our political overlords is flummuxing.

  • westcoastpatriette

    Let’s just abolish the federal government, turn the White House into a museum and let the People rule. Bet we would find ways to solve all our problems–in fact abolishing the feds would solve most of our problems.

    • benjaminz

      …the abolition of the federal government is anarchism.

  • juumanistra

    As, really, that sounds like what you want: A candidate that will send a tingle down your leg and whose sweetly whispered nothings you can get lost in. Someone who makes you feel good simply for supporting them. A candidate who you know you have a deep, spiritual connection with and can take home to your parents, confident that their approval will be won with ease. …I think that last one might be a dating trope rather than one of the Obama cult of personality, but it still applies equally well.

    I’ll take the field we have over the ubermenschen descending from Heaven to save us from ourselves, but that’s I’m a dyed-in-the-wool Rumsfeldian on these matters.

    • Ben Howe

      I want someone that will articulate conservatism in a convincing way, doesn’t have baggage that makes me hate them, and has their number 1 goal as getting government to shrink and get out of our lives.

      I realize now after two comments to this effect, that my title was a mistake as apparently some people just don’t actually read what is beneath it.

      I want our current candidates to get their heads out of their asses. Unfortunately, I don’t think the site editors would’ve been cool with that headline.

      • earlgrey

        the actual headline articulated how despondent I feel this morning.

        I knew it was a mistake to check my iphone before getting ready for the morning !.

      • keysconservative

        “I want someone that will articulate conservatism in a convincing way, doesn?t have baggage that makes me hate them, and has their number 1 goal as getting government to shrink and get out of our lives.”
        Sounds like Herman Cain to me.

      • bcochran1981

        ..”A Winning GOP Strategy: Pull Head Out of Ass”

        Outstanding article. Title hit it perfectly for those with reading comprehension skills. Loved both the content and tone of the article. Frustrated, incredulous, disgusted ranting scores high with me. Lol.

      • juumanistra

        Because only an illiterate boob would draw parallels comparing pining for someone to be a stand-in for God, as per the bumper sticker you wished was fulfilled, with the Left’s swooning over Obama, right? It’s not like you actually wrote, “Will someone else jump in that will fulfill the prophecy ['[i]f Jimmy Carter gave us Reagan, then Barack Obama should give us GOD[,]‘] that I saw on the bumper sticker of a used Honda?” Clearly I was responding only to the diary’s topic.

        You don’t like the field. Fine! There’s plenty not to like, and I agree wholeheartedly with your commentary re: Bachmann, Paul, and Johnson. But any candidate that is not a vapid empty suit is probably going to be inartful in articulating at least some conservative policy agenda items, is going to have baggage that you don’t like, and/or is quite possibly going to be subject to legitimate competing agenda items that make shrinking the size and/or scope of government a lesser priority. (I.E. national security considerations, the knock-on effects of a meltdown of the Eurozone, and so on.) To demand all three is to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Which, after having labored upon this, is why I suspect my hackles got themselves riled: We saw this in 2008 and it ultimately led to the balkanization of the base, which let McCain waltz into the nomination due to his particular issue-fragment of the base was in ascendancy at the time.

      • perry4prez

        @Ben Howe, if before last night you thought Perry could (1) articulate conservatism in a convincing way (2) doesn’t have baggage and (3) wants to shrink the government why do you want to change your mind based on one bad debate performance? I am the first to say that Perry hd a bad night last night but if you take risks sometimes you will fail. Do you remember Babe Ruth for his batting average for the the number of his strikeouts?

        • Change Jar Conservative

          Because

          (1) He was completely in-articulate.

          (2) He was buried on his illegal immigration baggage.

          The absolute biggest issue was that when faced with a more conservative position on Illegal Immigration, he played the liberal “you’re heartless” card.

          We’ve already danced with a “compassionate conservative” from Texas and aside from his handling of 9/11 and two SCOTUS justices (one of which he had to be co-erced into), we didn’t like the experience.

          As soon as you start leading with your heart instead of your head, you end up with big government solutions and Perry has shown this in both the Gardisal issue and the Illegals issue.

          And this is coming from someone who was 90% in for Perry yesterday.

          Now I’m at about 60% undecided, 20% Perry, 10% Newt, and 10% Romney.

          • perry4prez

            “He was buried on his illegal immigration baggage” – look, I agree with you, I don’t like his stance on illegals. But it’s Texas. He has to say things like that to get Hispanic support.

            All that said, you will always disagree with a candidate on something. Some conservatives even complained about Reagan. Goldwater was pro-gay.

            Immigration is important but not the big issues in this election. The big issue in this election is the economy and STOPPING THE SPENDING. The second issue is restoring America’s moral decay.

            Romney increased spending with O’Romneycare. Perry is the only first-tier candidate who has talked at length about CUTTING SPENDING and to do that you need to start with entitlements.

            I think Perry’s handlers are coaching him to soften his positions on social security, this is a big mistake for sure. Perry skyrocketed to the top of the charts on the basis of the clear convictions he expressed in Fed Up and at The Response. His handlers are telling him to soften his stances now because they buy into the DC/Hollywood elite sacred cows about appealing to moderates. He’s getting tongue-tied because he doesn’t really believe it. He needs to ditch these advisors and get back to telling it like it is.

          • red_oakster

            His entry would knock over Perry with a feather.

          • Change Jar Conservative

            I would follow any of them.

          • earlgrey

            I was kind of ticked at Daniels seeing a clip of him on Piers Morgan show (Newsbusters). Does anyone watch that show?

            Daniels eloquently states our problems, but due to family issues he can’t help us solve them.

  • aeaeren

    she is running for President at this time? Palin doesn’t need to work on name recognition. By now I doubt there isn’t a person within this GALAXY that doesn’t know Palin.

    Imagine clean up? Some of it is fair and some of it is down right nasty and wrong. I don’t think this would as much of an issue once we get to the point where a lot of people start paying attention to the races and get to see and HEAR Her, not McCain/NY Times ect views.

    Ground game maybe? She has volunteers in every State already. Maybe need to add a few more you think?

    Her debating? Like that is really working out well for Perry. If he didn’t have a record in Texas he would be OUT of the race with his flubs. Maybe it is smarter to wait until that Trillion candidates are whittled down to maybe 3 to where we can have a REAL debate instead of a bunch of sound bites. With her message of good ole boys and cronyism she can clean up her image and articulate her view points without sniping at the other candidates.

    I do think if she gets in it will be unconventional for sure.

    She does need to address resigning the Governorship 2 years early but honestly I think after watching Perry almost completely dismantle himself last night with his Immigration answers in which Santorum completely tore him a part on she could answer that question so much easier then Perry. He lost a lot of supporters last night and he will have to work to get them back now.

    Right now if the election where held today I think Romney gets it and we all know Romney is NOT what is he pretending to be, Perry needs to clean up his answers and quit playing with Mitt and show some serious policy. I think a debate between Perry, Romney and Palin she clobbers them with her message period!

    I am still voting Perry at this time but I have HUGE issues with him. I rather have Herman out of all of them currently running but he just isn’t catching on fire. Hopefully last night helps him.

    Besides outside of a few brief times no one is on the Cronyism, elite politicians like her.

    • keysconservative

      for Palin to remain on the sidelines for now. Let the “top tier’ candidates bloody each other for a while.

      When the Iowa Straw Poll was held, there was a lot of speculation and anticipation about what Sarah would do. But the timing then was awful. Bachmann was surging, and Perry was just getting in. Better to wait.

      And why stand on a stage with 9 other candidates fighting to get a word in edgewise? On the sidelines she continues to get her message out via television appearances and her Facebook page. Whenever she speaks or writes something it’s all over the internet and TV.

      I don’t know what the deadline would be to officially announce her candidacy, but I imagine that date is no too far off now.

  • Whacker77

    I’m embarrassed to be a Republican after what I saw last night. Perry was a trainwreck, Romney is phoney, and Bachmann is stuck on “got retarded”.

    We’ve still got time drag Jeb, Christie, or Rubio into the race. I don’t care which one. Just get one of them into the race before this blows up in our face.

    The current field is a train wreck lacking only the insanity of Sharron Angle and the comedy of Christine O’Donnell.

    • keysconservative

      Last night was hard to watch.
      Rubio is as solid as they come but has already said he won’t run for President, at least not yet.
      Jeb won’t run. He was an awesome Governor and I personally like him very much, but he has ‘family issues’ I fear would be exploited to no end during a general election. He won’t put his family through that.
      I have no opinion on Christie. There’s much more that I don’t know about him so I reserve any judgment there.

      • red_oakster

        He’s got it all. And now that Perry has faltered badly, there’s an opening.

    • http://slcliberty.blogivists.com randy streu

      Rubio has said multiple times that he won’t get in, and frankly he’s not ready. Republicans aren’t Democrats — they’re not gonna vote a guy in on pretty rhetoric and a short resume.

      Christie is good pretty much on Republican fiscal policy.

      Jeb will lose on the name alone.

      What we need to hope for is for SOMEBODY in the current field to start going hardcore after the liberal agenda, publicly and cogently, and let the lesser candidates rip each other to shreds.

      So far, not one of them has displayed that level of Conservative leadership, but hey, if it’s not too late for another candidate, it’s not too late for one of the candidates we’ve got to grow a pair.

  • neukm

    conservatives eat their own! ie.. Why are Bachmann and Santorum going after Perry?? Why don’t they focus on Romney? Aren’t we Conservatives all on the same team? Just like the 2008 primary season where McCain was given a pass while Huckster went after Fred Thompson. I sure don’t see Gary Johnson attacking Ru Paul, or Romney and Huntsman going at it.

    • Repair_Man_Jack

      The GOP attracts two sorts of political customers.

      1) People who both get and appreciate conservatism. A fairly small group of people who do a large volume of hard work to get GOP’ers elected.

      2) People who look at the latest Carter/Mondale/Obama and think OMG-WTF? These people are necessary to win, but do not believe in conservatism. Maybe 6 or 7 of our nine current candidates want all of group 1 to show up ans annoint them via the primary process. Romney and Huntsman are the only candidates going for group 2. Other than Huntsman, nobody can really attract business by attacking ROmney.

      • neukm

        couldn’t Bachmann win some votes from group 2 by educating them on Romney’s similarities to Carter/Mondale/Obama?

    • Massachusetts_Transplant

      they see Perry as the gate crasher that really hasn’t earned his lead in the polls. And after that performance last night, they are right.

      Mark my words – when Santorum drops out, he endorses Romney, he clearly doesn’t like Perry.

      • neukm

        my support is a Conservative record.

      • Spartan4Life

        He couldn’t even win in his own state. I have no idea what he thinks he is accomplishing now.

        As for Romney, he couldn’t beat McCain who couldn’t beat Obama last time.

  • unclefred

    They MAY be important to getting elected, which is part of the rub.

    Every candidate has flaws. Every candidate is wrong on some of the issues.

    What is essential to effective governance is successful executive experience.

    At this moment, there is no candidate out there, including former governor Palin, who is perfect.

    In a large sense this is not important. We must not fixate on a finding a president who will ride in and right all the wrongs on his or her own. If we are to save this nation we need to accomplish three things in 2012.

    1: Elect a president who is a competent excutive
    2: Elect a president who will sign conservative legislation to correct the mess the Dems leave behind,
    3: Elect more conservatives to the house and Senate and get an significant majority in the Senate.

    Accomplishing number 3, means that we don’t need a hero in the white house, we don’t even need a staunch conservative there. It is up to us to put the heat to the Congress to correct this mess and give them a President who will help, while he/she clears out the Czars and administrative waste.

    Who on the debate stage last night offer that essential skill set.
    Romney (although I have little trust in him), Perry (although his positions on some aspect of illegal immigration are absurd) and Cain (who has never held public office).

    Despite their various problems, if we do our job and drive Congress to pass the needed legislative reforms, any of these men are able to do the job we need.

    • gregorysstewart

      …can’t occupy the Oval Office until and unless he wins an election.

      Way too many people make up their mind based on debates that happen a mere few days before the election. Being a great debater is not important once in the office, but it is the key to getting in the office.

      I think that most of us realize another Obama term will be a seismic disaster for this country that we love. Perry will not find support, if Republicans think he will not be able to dispatch Obama on some future stage. He has had three chances, and he seems to be unprepared and confused.

      I’m sorry, but this will be an absolutely essential skill.

      • unclefred

        That rhetoric no longer works for the majority of voters.

        You can’t win a debate when a majority of the electorate can no longer stand to listen to you. Obama wasn’t that good a debater in 2008, but people weren’t paying attention. In 2012 they will not even be listening, as soon as the talking points start, the independents will tune him out. No amount of MSM antics will save him post debate.

        Were Obama smart he would avoid debates.

        • gregorysstewart

          Even if we tune out Obama, if Perry starts a point with one of those sentences that make you wonder if he has taken his medication, Obama will not need to be heard. All anyone will talk about will be the stumbles that Perry makes.

          Don’t believe me?

          What was the great line that “W” used in that debate agaist Gore?
          Hmmm, No idea. What we remembered was Gore’s sighing.

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  • spainishirish

    It also is too early to get disheartened in any way. This is still ours to lose although your analysis is dead on. Perry’s poll numbers likely will reflect his dismal performances when we get new results.

    This was hilarious, by the way:

    “John Huntsman is so slimy in his approach, I keep waiting for him to rip his skin off and reveal that he?s actually John Edwards.”

    Eventually we all may have to come to terms with the fact the nominee will in fact be Romney, but we aren’t there yet. One thing is for certain. As it stands right now, if the goal is to defeat Obama as it should be, Perry isn’t the person to do it and Romney may be the better alternative to achieve that goal. I hope that isn’t how it breaks down, but if it does I’m all in for Romney.

    • spainishirish

      than next Spring.

  • xscd

    Thank you, Ben Howe, for an excellent and insightful commentary about this latest Republican debate. I tend to be a progressive, but I often want to look past the cheap talking points of both sides to see what thoughtful people have to say, to gain a better understanding of the dynamics that fuel opposing ideologies and which affect us all, liberal and conservative alike.

  • autiger89

    Senator DeMint, it’s time to jump in to the race! Your country needs you!

    • ideasmatter

      DeMint would be just what the doctor ordered.

      • runner12

        he would unify the party and all of these quibbles would go away. I respect and admire the man more than anyone else in office to date. He is the real deal and he does what he says he will do.

        One can always hope he will run.

        • JSobieski

          nt

  • clarioncaller

    Many held their noses and voted for Progressive McCain.Right now for me it’s Bachmann or Cain.Perry is another George Bush.How long do we have to scream about illegals to get change ? Romney is Obama Lite.Could you imagine a presidential debate.Romney and Obama standing on stage. 50 million people are watching. Obama turns to Romney and says” Mitt,I want to thank you…sincerely… Your RomneyCare was the blueprint I followed to develop the centerpiece of my presidency….ObamaCare. Thank you Mitt,I really owe you.”

    With that…..GAME OVER.

    • windwaker24

      What could he possibly say to Obama? He agrees with Obama on global warming (I don’t know about Cap ‘n Trade). He is the grandfather of Obamacare, whether he wants to admit it or not. He’s for gun control. He likes “raising revenue”. Obama vs. Romney: that’s going to be one polite debate.

  • ideasmatter

    Perry and Mittens are total flat out spouters of liberal talking points, and cameleons, they will be what the pollsters say they should be.
    Bachmann is not like that, Cain is not like that, as a matter of fact, Cain has an actual “plan” other than Obama-lite.Bachmanns plus is that she has not forgotten that we need to repeal Obama-care in full.

  • toothpick

    In three words, what we need is an UNAPOLOGETIC, ARTICULATE CONSERVATIVE.

    Each of the top-tier candidates seems to fail on at least one of these terms. Last night Perry failed on the first two.

    Ryan, Christie, or Palin, anyone? Too bad Pence and DeMint refuse to run…

    I sure hope Perry picks up his game soon. I wonder if he even realizes how badly he did last night?

  • Tbone

    Look folks, these are not debates you are watching, they are gotcha news conferences with kibitzers. They are totally a waste of time and the candidates are doing themselves no good in being involved.

    I can’t even watch them very long in fear that Bachmann will start in with her “sweet, innocent 12 year old girls be forced to have a shot in their do-gooding arms”. Baloney. There are a lot of 12 year old girls doing stuff that Michelle hasn’t even read about.

    Yes, building a 1200 mile fence is stupid as in the concept of deporting 12 million people. Stupid. Plain effing stupid.

    Perry and Romney should decline to participate in anymore of these goofball beauty pageants and set up some one-on-one debates of there own where they can actually discuss questions of national importance, not some whine from a momma’s boy Google geek.

    • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

      What’s to make him repent now?

    • tyman

      For Perry to be subjected to the equivalent of yap yap dog at his heels is embarrassing. I would add Romney in that comment, but Romney hasn’t really taken a lot of hits.

      When Romney was the frontrunner, real or not, the other candidates left him pretty much alone.

      I appreciate Herman Cain, but based on what I’ve read, he simply does not have the campaign in place to win a national nomination.

      I didn’t like Perry’s “you don’t have a heart comment”, but I see his frustration with this issue. The illegal immigration situation is far from simple, and until the Fed does its job (one of its few constitutional requirements), the states’ hands are tied.

    • Darin_H

      I’d like to see a discussion (not debate) between Romney and Perry, hosted by Jim DeMint.

    • avgjo

      I only disagree with your comment that deporting 12 million people is ‘plain effing stupid’.

      Last year, we deported nearly 400000 people. If we cut the flow of people (fence, whatever) to negligible numbers, at that rate, we’d have all out in 30 years. A while, but doable. Double or triple the efforts, and we’re good.

      Combine such efforts with e verify, cutting benefits to illegals, etc. and it would take a lot less time, I believe, as the illegals self-deport.

      Barring that, we’d better develop a strategy to win hispanic voters for a permanent majority. I don’t believe this is hard as a matter of fact. Getting around the GOP establishment would be another thing altogether. (BTW, I’m not talking out of my ear; my mom’s family is American of Mexican descent, and my grammy was a LEGAL immigrant from old Mejico.)

      • aesthete

        that there’s a high demand for low-wage, hardworking laborers in several sectors of the US economy, such that there will always be flow of immigrants to meet this demand. The only question is, will this flow be legalized, subject to rules, and organized, or will it be criminalized and thus create all the problems that are attendant to the black market? The fact of the matter is, the Kennedy immigration reform bill of the 60s (which is what current immigration law is mostly built on) has been a complete disaster, in that it allows for very few work visas relative to the demand that exists for them.

        If work visas were allowed, most Mexican immigrants would 1) be young, male and single (a demographic less likely to need much less ask for a government safety net), 2) not bring their families along with them, and 3) mostly go back to Mexico after they’ve learned a skill or saved up enough money. A manageable and productive number, impressed by the US’ prosperity and/or freedoms, would seek to become US citizens. This has been the pattern for other low-skill immigrant groups in the past (Italians in particular), and was the pattern for Mexican immigrants under the Bracero program (ended by Ted Kennedy).

        Until we legalize the flow of immigrants who want to work, dealing with the stock problem is a waste of time.

        • Tbone

          and the program worked well.

        • avgjo

          liked the Bracero program.

          In light of all you mention, this would make the most sense.

  • Change Jar Conservative

    Thank you, Ben.

    This is exactly 100% what I am feeling in my gut.

    Anyone noting my comment stream will also note that out of this current group, I actually FEEL (not sure what I think) that Newt is the best of the bunch. NEWT! Sigh.

    Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, this is your time. RIGHT NOW.

    Sarah, please just don’t. Stay out there ripping Obama and raising money for conservatives in the House and Senate.

    • red_oakster

      Daniels is out and the social truce stuff would make him a lousy candidate in any event.

      Ryan on the other hand has every piece of the Reagan profile. And he’s super smart to boot.

  • smitch61

    Look, you cannot give up hope.. You have to remember that WE are politically engaged, paying attention, and working toward the 2012 election…MOST OF AMERICA (at least half) are not paying attention yet….they could care less and have no idea who is running. For me personally I never watch the debates. I know what they stand for, and their “performance” is not important to me. I wait for the debates after the primaries are won… but that’s just me. It really is not as gloomy as you think.

    • tyman

      I didn’t even watch the debate. My wife wanted to watch something else and I want to keep her happy. The post debate coverage on Fox was terrible. I don’t know who the focus group was, but they acted clueless to me.

      These debates are childish, anyway. The questions, and the answers bouncing back and forth are just too much to garner any significant messages.

  • jkines

    Despite the fact that I’m a libertarian republican who respectfully disagrees with Mr. Howe’s assessment of Gary Johnson (while simultaneously agreeing on Ron Paul to a large extent) most of the rest of this I find right on the mark.

    One other clarification is that I can’t support Rick Santorum. Despite the fact that I’m not a social conservative, I have supported numerous social conservatives due to concurrence with their stance on economic issues. I’m not one of those atheist libertarians who demands that everyone agree with me, for I believe tolerance truly is a two way street. Thus I can, and have, supported social conservatives who I agree with on a majority of issues. Santorum, however, seems to go beyond taking a stand on principle to utter contempt for anyone who disagrees. His disrespect for that soldier last night nearly evoked memories of Westboro baptist.He could have voiced his disagreement vociferously yet in more respectful terms. It seems to me that Santorum aspires more to being a theocrat than a president.

    I am singularly disappointed in Rick Perry who I had high hopes for as a principled candidate that could beat Barack Obama, but his debate performances have been painful to watch. I don’t think we can afford to nominate someone who fails to articulate our message in such a pivotal election.

    Romney is an opportunist who waffles more than Kerry and shifts with the political winds more arduously then Clinton. A Rom ney presidency would be 4 more years of a big government republican which would be disastrous for th party long term. If our candidates fail to delineate differences with the opposition while in office, swing voters will, quite rightly, wonder why even bothering voting for them in the first place. Furthermore, while I can support a principled social conservative with whom I respectfully disagree, I will NEVER support an apologist for the status quo of the entitlement state. Not to mention his trade policies are quasi-protectionists. Such is the road to ruin.

    Hunstman is Romney with less traction.

    Bachmann’s piling on and Gardisil histrionics have turned me off from a candidate I once had high hopes for. Much like Palin, she is but a sophistric demagogue lacking any real policy direction, instead relying on cult of personality and low brow populism.. For example she claims to be a small goverment conservative who values property rights, but ignores the eminent domain exigencies of the very border fence she champions. 102 eminent domain lawsuits were filed on behalf of the first phase of fence construction alone. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,321566,00.html

    Clearly we need immigration reform, both legal and illegal. We need to secure our borders against unlawful trespassing and reform legal immigration so highly skilled and educated immigrants can innovate and become entrepreneus in our economy. However, debasing the fifth amendment and property rights is not the proper course.

    There is very little not to love about Herman Cain, I only wish he had more traction. I believe he is electable and unlike Romney he means what he says. Gary Johnson is the closest candidate to me ideologically, but I realize he has electability issues. Newt has a level of unfavorability stratification that he will never be able to overcome, at least Johnson and Cain are still elastic at this point.

    Thus, I also find myself in despair over where we find ourselves. The candidates I can support either aren’t getting traction or aren’t in the running, Perry clearly isn’t ready for Prime Time, and Romney will be 4 more years of incessant expansion of the federal leviathan, in conjunction with disastrous protectionism, and tepid attempts at tax reform.. Surely, we can do better than this. Given the plight of our nation, it is incumbent that we do better than this. Sadly, it looks like a catch-22 of four more years of Obama or 4 years of Romney which are almost as bad.

    • xscd

      Thank you for a lucid and intelligent expression of your thoughts. As a progressive myself with plenty of differences of opinion I’m sure, yours and Ben’s is the kind of thoughtful conservative commentary I love to read.

      • jkines

        it is safe to say that I do not entirely represent what one would consider the mainstream Redstate ethos. However, I’m far more interested in how we can find common ground and work together to maximize liberty and minimize government coecion than quibble over what issues we disagree on. Principle is very important, however, so is magnanimity and an understanding that there will be philosophical differences even among those of relatively like mind. Milton Friedman, Karl Popper, and Friedrich Hayek were all classic liberal economists, yet had numerous disagreements when it came to specific policies. Yet each championed the cause of liberty in his own way and by extension reinforced the work of the other.

  • aesthete

    This is the guy who’s crowning achievements are parroting the party line in Iraq/Afghanistan and supporting anti-sodomy laws. This, and his less-than-inspiring role in dragging the Republican party towards the left on fiscal issues under GWB. What is so “great” about him, again?

    Ron Paul is nuts, but he’s not anti-Semitic (as far as I know). You’re gonna have to back that statement up with more than an assertion.

    Gary Johnson is very different from Ron Paul, in his approach to issues (esp foreign policy), his argumentation style, and in his willingness to accept conspiracy theories. He’s got an excellent record as NM Governor, and is probably the most fiscally conservative candidate in the race.

    Mitt Romney is not a “solid leader” by any stretch of the imagination, at least not in politics (I can’t speak to his record in the private sector). What in politics has he lead solidly? By his own admission, it sure wasn’t the state of MA.

    • Doc Holliday

      Gary Johnson makes Mr. Rogers seem like Patton. Johnson is likely a good guy, but he is not cut out to be the leader of the free world.

    • Archer

      Back in the 1980′s, Ron Paul had several newsletters sent out in his name (which I believe he claimed to be editor for). In it a couple of times he had people who were known to be anti-Semites writing articles. Other times, articles in the newsletters used anti-Semitic language to express their anti-US-involvement-with-Israel point of view.

      When confronted about it on CNN (sometime during the last decade), Paul stated he didn’t know who wrote those articles (often those articles were unattributed and a casual reader might well believe Paul wrote all the unattributed material).

      This was all very high profile when the scandal broke. You could probably find out everything you’d ever want to know about it by Googling “ron paul anti semitism”.

      I don’t know the view which Dr. Paul, or anyone else, holds deeply in their hearts. But I think its appropriate to hold him responsible for the content of his newsletter particularly since it wasn’t some one-time occurrence. (Accountable in the sense of “at best that displays a huge level of indifference to the feelings of our country’s allies plus very sloppy management skills: each of which would be troubling if he were president”.)

      Since you weren’t aware of that issue with Dr. Paul, you probably aren’t aware there’s also a knock against him for racism.

      His newsletter, and Dr. Paul himself, sometimes referred to “white America”, the “coming race war”, and other racially insensitive terms. And several times when pointing out that in some urban areas the overwhelming number of criminals are blacks, Dr. Paul himself went on to characterize those blacks as “animals”.

      I would personally characterize violent criminals as “animals” but given that he intentionally was making the conversation about black criminals rather than criminals in general, many people choose to believe that he equates being black with being an animal.

      If I were compensated appropriately, I could faithfully present Dr. Paul’s points of view on Israel, urban crime, welfare, urban rioting, etc. and do it forever without using racially-charged language and without an unbiased observer being forced to wonder whether or not I’m a closet racist. Dr. Paul appears to be either incapable or unwilling to do that.

      I personally write it off as being stubborn: he wants to say what he wants to say, when he wants to say it, however he happens to say it, and if someone doesn’t like the way the phrasing came out, that’s just too bad.

      I don’t think that kind of stubborn is attractive in a president. In my opinion a president should be able to switch seamlessly between being diplomatic and being blunt, using whichever seems to be the more effective at the moment and using an abrupt switch between the two styles to keep an opponent off balance.

  • aeaeren

    he is just not ready to run for President at this time. Rubio would FLAT demolish ANY of them on the stage last night and Obama, well it would be best NOT to debate Rubio as he would be unmasked to all what a total buffon he is and the media just wouldn’t be able to save him.

    Honestly I think Rubio is still needed in the Senate and we need to get him some help. We are not going to be able to fix the issues with this government with just a President.

  • KBDay

    I think you connected with a perspective a lot of people have this morning, judging by some of my messages and by posts on social media.

    I think this is a very well-written analysis.

    I also think it is early on, however. I’ve been telling friends that’s the purpose of debates and exchanges–so we can see where the strengths lie.

    I’ve leaned towards Cain and I’ve leaned towards Perry. Early on I liked Pawlenty. He bailed.

    Bachmann and Santorum have both alienated me because I do not like negative attacks on fellow Republicans, especially when those attacks border on Democrat-style theatrics.

    I wonder what part of opt-out those two don’t get.

    We all have our dream candidates. Mine are Rubio, DeMint, Jindal (as long as nobody tries to script him–Jindal unscripted is a beautiful thing to behold). I also like Tim Scott and S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley. All of these people are principled; they are all very capable.

    Bachmann did say something last night that resonated–the “don’t settle” part. This go ’round, I don’t think we will. I’m not over settling in 2008 yet.

  • http://slcliberty.blogivists.com randy streu

    … are not worthy of that power.”

    During the election of ’08, I thought often of Plato’s words. And they come more and more to mind as the primaries drag on now.

    I don’t necessarily think any of these individuals are bad or corrupt in any way, but I don’t think I could hand-pick a sorrier field of candidates for the highest office.

    Right now, when we most need a candidate to spread the message of REAL conservatism (and perhaps, to have the cajones to silence the idiotic crowds of “supporters” to which Ben referred in the opening paragraph), what we HAVE is a field of seeming opportunists who are stuck going back and forth between “appeal to the middle” and “pander to the Fringe.”

    We need excellence; we HAVE mediocrity in neckties.

    They’re not bad people. Some of them may even make a decent President. But they sure as hell aren’t inspiring. And, you can call me a whiner, or suggest (as somebody did to Howe) that I’m looking for a Tingle, or whatever… but the reality is what it is. Voting against Obama is going to get some people to the polls. But to win, we need a real leader. And like it or not, some very basic components of leadership are, in fact, charisma and the ability to articulate one’s goals and expectations.

  • LibertarianHawk

    …I’ll just use this occasion to once again lament that Mitch Daniels passed on running for president.

    Despite a lot of conservatives’ (understandable) reservations about him — the “truce”, etc. — I’m confident that most of us would’ve discovered the kind of candidate you’re talking about here.

    I’m anxious to start reading his new book, too. He’s the real deal and it’s a shame he’s not up on that stage with those guys.

  • blutarsky

    Maybe you need to READ.READ.READ the plan and then THINK.THINK.THINK,, because your misrepresentation is a LIE.LIE.LIE.

  • Archer

    (Some of this I’ve posted before. Apologies.)

    I hope Palin get in because the position of someone who?s number one issue is enacting a flat tax and doing other things to fundamentally change the way government works is still somewhat open.

    Looking at the current Republican candidates on economic positions:

    a) Romney has a timid economic plan which tinkers at the borders of the current tax system. Its most likely an improvement but its not bold or transformative. Romney while governor ran ads against Steve Forbes’ flat tax plan in 1996. It shows real commitment on an issue to spend your own precious campaign dollars to run ads against some other race’s candidate. During this election, Romney is showing the same level of commitment against allowing any talk about transforming the Social Security System from a wealth transfer system into something else.

    b) Perry doesn?t have even a hint of a plan yet on his website, doesn’t mention the bare bones of a plan in his stump speeches that I’ve heard, and avoided answering when posed a question about it during the debates. At the very best, that’s extremely troubling since a true economic conservative should be bubbling over with ideas about what to do. And I say that as a delegate to the Texas state Republican convention who after hearing Perry (running for Sec of Agriculture) speak to us was struck with the realization that someday this man would be President.

    He might still become president but I was disappointed when he entered the race this time around and have been more disappointed with him as a candidate. And that was my opinion before his poor Florida debate performance.

    c) Newt doesn?t have a plan yet but intends to announce one within weeks.

    d) Cain has his 999 plan which he openly admits he came to not out of economic considerations of the best level of taxation for maximizing government revenue or for maximizing economic activity. He states he came up with 999 because he wanted the rates for his three tax categories to be the same. I have to assume that?s for the political reason of 999 being catchy and easy to remember for the average voter this election season since Cain hasn?t advanced any other explanation of why the rates should be the same.

    On the grounds of workability and political viability, his plan would be a large tax increase on the poor. Non-working poor face a 9% increase through the new sales tax. Working poor would be facing that 9% increase plus the 9% income tax minus the elimination of the payroll tax (which is near 6%) for a total tax increase of more than 12%. His website makes no mention of an earned income tax credit which would be a further tax increase on the working poor. There?s no mention of businesses being required to pass along their savings on their portion of the elimination of payroll taxes on to the employees nor any requirement for businesses to pass along savings on their business income taxes along to their customers or employees. Over a number of years, those savings would inevitably be passed on down as businesses compete to stay competitive but you couldn?t count on that money in the first few years to be there to cushion the plan?s tax increases on the poor. Other republicans aren?t attacking Cain?s plan because Cain doesn?t look likely to win. But if Cain wins the nomination, would you seriously expect a democrat opponent to fail to point out proposed huge tax increases on the poor and milk that issue for all its worth?

    e) Paul wants to eliminate the income tax and raise other national taxes to pay for it. In the long run, that?s where we need to be, Eliminating the income tax could have been done, revenue neutral, at any point in the early 1990?s if spending had been rolled back to what it had been four years earlier. But that window of opportunity closed. To go directly to that without any transition would require more scorched earth tactics to the federal government and more tariff and other tax increases than any president is likely to get public support for.

    f) Bachmann on her website is vaguely for lower taxes (which taxes?), eliminating the tax code (apparently the income tax code but with no word on to be replaced by what) and doesn?t understand what the debt ceiling does and what it doesn?t do.

    There is no ?national credit card?. Instead, the government has hundreds of thousands of lines of credit arranged with hundreds of thousands of businesses and government employees. A government employee provides work to the government on credit trusting that the government will pay the employment bill at the end of the pay period. A business provides goods and services to the government based on the government?s promise to pay their bill at the end of the month.

    Spending authority for the government comes through the budget process (or through the current lack of a budget process).

    The debt ceiling is not the spending authority but the payment authority. Its what the person who pays the government?s bills looks at before he writes the check at the end of the month. If the government has enough room under the ceiling to incur the debt it would take to pay the bill then the bill is paid. If there isn?t room, the government doesn?t pay out the money it owes for the goods and services it has already received.

    Note this has nothing to do with the government continuing to spend money. Each government agency still has its lines of credit already in place and the authority from the budget to continue to use those lines of credit to continue doing its business whether or not the government ultimately is able to pay the bill under the debt ceiling or not. The only thing which would stop the spending is for Congress to change the law to make agencies stop spending or for all those lines of credit to be closed down because the government is not paying its bills.

    In previous years, the republicans have chosen to stand against government spending when taking a stand against irresponsible spending. This year, the republicans instead decided, shortly before the crisis, to pass an Obama spending bill then to take the stand that the government shouldn?t pay all the debts it had already incurred . In baseball this is called an ?unforced error?. People, companies, and countries who don?t pay their bills or who threaten long and loudly that they will quit paying their bills damage their credit rating. Win or lose on this year?s debt ceiling debate, Congress would still have had to pass spending cuts into law to stop the government from continuing to spend money.

    So it makes no sense to let the spending bills pass on by into law then hold strong on the debt ceiling if your goal is to stop the government from spending. You could stop the country from spending BORROWED money if you completely destroyed the country?s credit rating because no one would extend credit to it.But you can?t stop it from spending altogether because the government can print money rather than borrow it.

    I know the public in general aren’t familiar with how the government’s financial structure works. But there’s really no excuse for congressmen to either 1) not know how it works or 2) deliberately put the country’s credit rating at risk as part of political grandstanding which will increase the interest rate we pay to rollover the existing debt or force the Fed to print trillions instead of rolling the debt over as government bonds mature.

    g) Santorum vaguely supports low taxes. His website doesn?t say whether he wants additional tax cuts or if he wants to keep things as they are when he takes over as president. If he wants to cut taxes, he doesn?t say which taxes he wants to cut. If he wants to cut income taxes, he doesn?t say whether he wants to direct tax cuts at things which would directly help economic growth such as tax rates or if he would cater to the family values crowd with increasing deductions for kids.

    I’m as family-oriented as the next happily married father but economically cutting tax rates to make opening and running a small business a more viable prospect is better than targeting a tax cut to families with children. That was the essence of Forbes vs Bush in 2000. Bush chose to pour a vast amount of money into tax cuts targeted at groups who he wanted to attract as his primary voters and opted against more dramatic rate cuts which would have been better for the economy in the long run. Now we’re living in the long run, the economy has missed out on the level of growth it could have had over the last ten years, and the country is still needing some fundamental tax overhaul. So looking at families with kids as they exist today, were the Bush cuts targeted at them the best option or would it be better for them if the economy were good and they could find work?

    That’s why I say leadership is meaningless. We’ve had, and have, leadership. Bush led but only vaguely in the right general direction. Obama is vigorously and successfully leading in the wrong direction. What we need is someone who is leading in exactly the right direction and who knows exactly how to get from here to there.

    h) Huntsman doesn?t write out any plan on his website.

    i) Gary Johnson states he wants to simplify the tax code (I assume the personal income tax code), eliminate punitive taxation of savings and investment. (does that mean all taxation of it or just the punitive part of it), and eliminate the corporate income tax. I don?t have a problem with any of those concepts but there?s a huge number of ways that could be done and not all of those ways would be easy or painless.

    Johns appears to want to pay for those change that by ?revising the terms? of Social Security and Medicare. That sounds like more like changing the rules in the middle of the game by means-testing and raising the retirement age rather than changing Social Security by turning it into a pension program. I don’t think changing the rules of the game to make the location of the goalpost further away then banning some of the players outright from ever reaching it passes a fairness test. (For that matter, I think that Romney’s unspoken assumption that “someone receiving a Social Security check automatically means that person thinks the Social Security is successful program” passes the laugh test. But I shouldn’t digress.)

    Now from the last debate, not his website, Johnson is also wanting to come up with large wads of money through massive cuts to the military. Leaving aside how bad that idea seems on the surface, I don?t think Johnson could win votes in the general election on this issue since Obama will always be able to out-promise a republican on how much he?s willing to cut the military, If necessary, Obama could promise to cut the military budget to zero then promise loan guarantees for military expenses to any country which would care to become our enemy. Top that, Johnson!

    So I think there’s a legitimate opening in the republican field for someone who is willing to aggressively work to change the nature of government. Palin or another candidate could, for example, adopt Steve Forbe?s flat tax platform wholesale from his 1996 campaign then raid Ron Paul?s gold standard supporters by either promising to eliminate the Fed or by promising to, by force of law, require the Fed to use their financial tools to stabilize the value of the dollar relative to gold rather than leaving the Fed officials free to do whatever the heck they feel like. There’s a large number of Republicans and independents who are upset at the government’s mismanagement of the money supply but who are put off by Ron Paul’s manner or foreign policy positions.

    I think Palin at the heart wants the dramatic changes in government that Bachmann talks about but hasn?t proposed yet. And Bachmann is completely correct that if ever there was an election to push for every change in wasteful government policies we?ve ever dreamed of, this is the year.