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I Support Occupy Wall Street

"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men."

I support Occupy Wall Street.  And not in the ironic way that I’m sure many would assume upon reading that sentence.  I literally support their protest and their desire to influence the political discourse.  In fact, I want them to influence the political discourse.  I want them push their ideas and have them heard by politicians whose hearts beat for the same reasons.  I want those kindred spirits to run on campaigns that promise to fulfill all the objectives that Occupy Wall Street is demanding, and I want them to push for legislation and laws that will accomplish them.

The reason I want all of these things is because Occupy Wall Street is a purely ideological movement that, in many ways, is the antithesis of the Tea Party.  For too long, the Tea Party has stood alone, holding signs in the streets and being told to sit down and shut up by the power structure of Washington, D.C.  Having an ideological movement that pushes the narrative of half of the country, or at least half of our elected officials, further left is exactly what this country needs to rid us of a scourge that has plagued our political landscape for far too long.

Moderates.

Now, I’m not suggesting that people who cling to moderate views or are politically disinterested will change as a result of Occupy Wall Street or the Tea Party.  But for years now, I have been of the opinion that moderate voters are just about the worst thing that has ever happened to our elections.

Every election season, things progress in almost the exact same way.  During the primaries, the Democrat candidate feeds the base (Occupy Wall Street); more big government, socialist-sounding, pacifist, lefty talking points than they can shake a stick that.  They convince , as much as they can, their rabid, activist level fans that they are going to open diplomatic relations with every dictator in the world, help the paralyzed walk by finally permitting 3rd trimester abortions for stem cell research, and send every poor person a check written in the blood of a rich, old, white bastard that had been stuffing dollars into immigrants he hunted for sport.

For their part, the Republicans do everything they can to make the case to their base (Tea Party) that if they are elected, Reagan will be reincarnated through them as they take a machete to the IRS, end crony capitalism, arrest all abortion clinic doctors, and perform raids across the country on any churches with two dudes taking their vows.

Finally, when the primaries are over, the two candidates will meet in the middle, dancing like trained monkeys in an attempt to prove to the Holy Center that everything they said to the base was taken out of context and that in reality, their plans couldn’t be more centrist and moderate.  By the end of the general elections, it is a battle to see who can use sound bites from the primaries more effectively to prove to the center that their opponent is a lying radical.

The worst part is, the candidates are not crazy for doing things this way.  How else can they get nominated if they don’t appeal to their base, and how else will they get elected if they don’t appeal to the rest?

The problem of course, is that we then have a society that is essentially guided by the least interested or least ideological portion of the country.  So much so, that even my use of the word “ideological” in the previous sentence would undoubtedly cause some readers to think, “Well good! We don’t want an ideologue in the White House!”

But that would all depend on what you think an ideologue is wouldn’t it?

i·de·o·logue
[ahy-dee-uh-lawg, -log, id-ee-, ahy-dee-]
noun
a person who zealously advocates an ideology.

Okay, that answers the question in the same way that defining red as “the visual spectrum which reflects red” does.  What then is ideology?

i·de·ol·o·gy
[ahy-dee-ol-uh-jee, id-ee-]
noun, plural -gies.

  1. the body of doctrine, myth, belief, etc., that guides an individual, social movement, institution, class, or large group
  2. such a body of doctrine, myth, etc., with reference to some political and social plan, as that of fascism, along with the devices for putting  it into operation
  3. Philosophy
    1. the study of the nature and origin of ideas.
    2. the stystem that derives ideas exclusively from sensation
  4. theorizing of a visionary or impractical nature

In spite of this definition, which seems to lean toward the idea that ideology is an irrational or reactionary response to emotion as opposed to reasoned and considered ideas, I had always thought of an ideologue as someone who believed, for whatever reason, that they knew what was right, what needed to be done, and perhaps even how to do it; something that I would assume all people would want in a leader.

But fine, let’s use a different word to describe this ideal candidate then: idealist – defined as a person who represents things as they might or should be rather than as they are.

And if you don’t have an idealist, what do you have?  A pragmatist.

prag·ma·tism
[prag-muh-tiz-uh m]
noun

  1. character or conduct that emphasises practicality
  2. a philosophical movement or system having various forms, but generally stressing practical consequences as constituting the essential criterion in determining meaning, truth, or value

So, if you have an idealist in the primaries, and a pragmatist in the generals, what is the result?  A country led by men and women that talk a good game, but ultimately must prove that they will do nothing to dismantle the status quo; and all to appeal to a group of people that may or may not even care about politics in the first place.

One of the reasons that this dynamic never seems to change is that while an uprising may take place on the left or on the right, never has it been the case that they have happened simultaneously.  While one side rages, usually the other side is quieter.  But even as this happens, the popular support of the victorious candidate is still dependent upon not scaring the crap out of the moderates.  Because if they were to scare the crap out of the moderates, the other candidate will look more attractive since, after all, there was no popular uprising to push him further away from pragmatism.  As such, no matter the uprising, no matter who is in power, a pragmatist must always win the day in national politics.
2008 was unique.  Barack Obama, who we on the right incessantly pointed out was a radical, managed to convince a majority of the populace that he is a pragmatist, a moderate even.   All this while simultaneously acknowledging that he intended on dramatically reshaping the country.  This emboldened his more radical base and enraged the Republican base.  And here we are.

Today, our two party political system is at a cross-roads.  As the base for each party demands more idealistic purity from their candidates, neither side will have the option to play the pragmatist as they roll into the generals.  Because as much as they might be able to trick everyone during the primaries, they will have trouble getting their message adequately heard if half of their grass roots support and volunteer network is out protesting against them as a result of flip flops which usually reveal themselves when the general election kicks off.  The result is, you have congressmen, senators, party leaders and even presidential candidates sticking their necks out like never before to get the blessing of groups that used to matter only for a few months every few years.

So with both sides pushing hard against their respective leadership to stand for something far more than pragmatism, our leaders may actually have to dig out positions that they can’t escape to please moderates.  And if both sides finally distinguish themselves from each other in a clear and obvious way, the moderates will finally be forced to make a real choice, based on ideas not based on the promise of having none.  Either that or do not vote, which is equally fine with me.

I welcome Occupy Wall Street into the world of protest.  Granted, I will fight your ideas and I will present my own.  I will probably mock the least among you who simply beg for it.  I will point out the flaws of your arguments and attack you when you demagogue.  But, I will never say you shouldn’t be there.  I will never say that I don’t want you to have someone to represent your point of view.

In fact, I say, push your entire party to represent your ideas.  Organize, work the phones, command more of your candidates and establish checks and balances that force your party to keep it’s promises.  That’s what we’ve been doing.  And if we can get both sides to do this, we may at long last be able to have a true ideological battle that could result in real change that will shape the future of our country.

Let the best ideas win.

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COMMENTS

  • notpropagandized

    says OWS is the beginning of the long-planned violent revolution and that despite OWS sympathies with some TeaParty-esque goals, that we’re in for a conflagration of immense magnitude.

    So what should us little people believe?

    • dio55

      Down with the man!!!… its time fo ooccupy CANCUN

    • ginka

      There’s nothing about OWS that is violent, so luckily you don’t need to worry about that.

      It’s my belief that the media has allowed us to become unnecessarily paranoid and vicious towards differing viewpoints, which is unfortunate.

      I beg ye, gentle readers, to be cautious of our media machine. We all have too much at stake to listen to shrill alarmists and ratings hounds who would turn us against our fellow man.

      God bless.

      • noveldog9

        Lucifer and his minions are stirring up their mindless flock to stampede all opposition into giving in to their demands! Follow the money trail and you will see that this is being sponsored by the Democrat Party and it’s billionaire supporters.

        Will Lucifer win? Will there be more who will vote for the Democrats and their multi billionaire supporters?

        If the answer is yes, then prepare to lose more and more of your individual rights. Prepare to be permanently poor. Prepare yourselves to being one of the mindless Slaves Without Chains whose herd mentality allows them to blindly follow their Pied Piper right off the cliff of common sense and down into the valley of death and destruction!

        My last question is this…..is this a GOP sponsored site , or just another devious democratic site posing as being Republican?

        • ginka

          Who is the puppeteer? I think you might be paranoid.

          We’re all American. Even the progressives.

    • nobamas12

      I understand Eriks post on the protesters on Wall Street. However, like ButGlennBeck, I am an avid Beck listener and he has been predicting whats happening now for a long time and if his predictions continue to be on point, then this “protest” is just a jumping point for the bad guys to take over. I too want our country to wake up and see what these people are really advocating, but at what cost? Will America have to hit rock bottom in order to come back? And if we do hit rock bottom, will be come back as America or “fundamentally changed”? I’m honestly scared to death that we actually may have gotten so lazy, too many people will just sit back and expect the rest of us to fight for the real America to survive this. If thats what happens then thats what we deserve and the patriots who Tea Partied, and Town Halled, and spent hours calling and writing our congressmen, will just have to go down with the ship. But what we should REALLY be ashamed of is that thier are soldiers out there, past and present, who risked life and limb and we turned out not to be worthy of thier risk. Shame on us. For me, I’m not giving up. For the soldiers, for my daughter and for my grandsons, I will never give up.

    • steveinfl

      stu?pid?i?ty
      ? ?[stoo-pid-i-tee, styoo-] Show IPA
      noun, plural -ties for 2.
      1.
      the state, quality, or fact of being stupid.
      2.
      a stupid act, notion, speech, etc.

      Imagine we’re Jews in the 1920s in Berlin. Let’s say we have one of our own running for office. Down at the Beer Halls, people are upset and protesting. So, we figure they are willing to listen to us since they are upset. So, we go down there to solicit their vote, and they bludgeon our candidate to death.
      Example 2 : There is a really nice lion at the zoo. He seems very friendly and approachable, so you hop over the fence, and start to pet the pretty lion. He purrs, then he bites your hand off.

      Erick is playing checkers, while the world is playing three dimensional chess.

  • throwback59

    for the protesting mob. She calls them the “Flea Party” because they are annoying, blood-sucking parasites.
    I just think it’s appropriate because they look like they are crawling with lice.
    .

  • ezservant

    There is always good with bad. I agree somewhat with the above commentary about OWS. The people should be heard and their grievances should be acknowledged. We are in bad shape here in this country. Let just be very careful how the results are considered. Any one can use a movement or explain a movement in an improper manner, this is what I believe the obama admin. is trying to do. The Ows needs to organize and present its self. in a manner which reflects its purpose. Not letting another voice such as obama use its purpose in a manner it is not reflecting. My concern is for this country and how to keep government from abusing its powers on the citizens. I am very concerned on how words and actions can influence the description of this movement..

    • siquijorisland

      The statement of a mother living in abject poverty in a poverty alleviation program she and here family have five years on this program to improve their economic situation.

      (?I am very thankful that for the first time I am not ashamed to take my daughter out to buy her needs because I now have the means to do so, and since I would be picking her up after class, I do not have to worry because it is very near out place).”
      4Ps is a poverty alleviation strategy of the a national government implemented through the a national social welfare program which gives conditional cash grants to extremely poor identified household provided that the following set conditions are complied with.
      These include pre-natal and post natal care for pregnant women, immunization and weighing of children, preventatives health check-up, de-worming and 85 percent attendance in school for their children.
      Each household would receive P500/month (about $11.00) for health and P300/month/child ($6.00) for education for a maximum of three children for five years.
      The message for the these families in absolute poverty who received this grant is responsibly to comply with the conditions and with their responsibilities as beneficiaries for a bigger goal of crossing the poverty threshold into self sufficiency through small business and economic independence
      The amazing thing about the real poor of the world is there gratitude for any assistance provided to them in there never ending quest for a better life.
      The intellectuality poor on the other hand have no gratitude for all the freebies they have enjoyed in there never ending quest for more of other people?s money.

  • jaykali

    The liberals got their man in 2008, they didn’t have to settle for a moderate or didn’t want to and caught the perfect storm.

    In 2012 there isn’t a run-away conservative that gets all our hearts a-flutter. So we’re left with Mitt Romney and a couple non-Romney’s that need a lot of things to go right to be in this race. I just think it’s one of those years, sometimes to crop of guys just isn’t as great. Mitt with all his flaws is campaigning very well, that is doing everything he is supposed to do to look like the inevitable nominee, I think it would be hard to dispute this fact.

    That being said, he’s still the guy we’re not going to super-thrilled ab electing. We’re running out of time for anyone to seriously challenge him.

    • gekster

      Just start cheerleading for Romney now, just like the Dems did for Hillary at this same time before the last election.
      She was way ahead in the polls, and ‘everyone’ just knew she was going to be the next President.

      Like granma used to say,
      “If you have no hope, your hopeless”.

      Yeah, I know it’s corny, but what do you want from an 80 year old lady.
      But she was right.

      • ghostship

        There’s a good reason why many on the right can’t get excited about the Republican presidential primary and that’s because there isn’t anyone to get excited over.

        The Party gets to pick from one establishment politician vs another.

        Oh joy, just what this Party needs more big government Republicans who will toss the base a bone or two with some speeches until after the election in which they will then come out fighting for the status quo.

      • jaykali

        I like Cain though, I just think he is more doing the Huckabee deal than he is seriously campaigning. I believe he is hoping to get serious if he wins Iowa.

    • bonnman

      but it could pay off. They’ll frame Romney as a Wall Street millionaire who is the cause of all the 99%’s problems. There is no way that mob is voting for Romney. If OWS keeps growing then this will be the worst time to have Romney as the nominee.

      • jaykali

        I think the common voter can see through that ploy. Liberals foam at the mouth ab so called Wall Street but I don’t think the average voter is going to believe the tying of Romney to Wall Street and thus Romney = source of our problems. I would think most people will recognize that Obama’s policies have failed. He had 4 years to turn the thing around and didn’t, that simple. If anything he has made it worse.

  • tailfins1959

    Fox cited a poll showing most occupiers don’t vote. Then I read an article about the origins of OWS. It appears many are not US citizens. Even the Chicoms support the occupy movement. In short, many are not the “bosses” of our elected officials. All I ask is some truth in advertizing regarding who they generally represent. There is a common thread to their message: “no more cuts”. The glue that holds them together is a knowledge that governments are going broke, demanding that their “goodies” are not touched.

  • http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

    These liberals vote. They are Obama’s BASE. They always have been. These were the people that were practically praying at the altar of Obama in 2008.

    Liberals, people that believe like the OWS, may be slightly more extreme than the average liberal…but not by much. I bet these extremist view points are a good quarter or so of the liberals. Liberals overall make up around 20% of the electorate. You can’t believe that 5% of this country is wacko enough to believe in Socialism and Marxism? Spend more time on a college campus.

    As for Mr. Howe’s post…I had a similar one last week, and agree totally. Let them protest…I support their right. Let them stay there, if the NYC government is too wimpy to push them out. The longer they stay, the more damage they do to the liberal cause, IMHO.

    • Xasteius

      And maybe give them a backbone to actively support us (which is Ben’s point).

  • Spartan4Life

    Whose income are you supposed to be equal to if you are a 20 year old unemployed college dropout?

    The sheer idiocy of what some of the media is writing about this silly little(and I mean little) protest makes me fear for our collective future. Are they really that stupid? In his piece he points out that the top 1% have the equivalent wealth of the bottom 90%. Doesn’t that imply that most of us are doing about the same?

    The bottom line is that these young people don’t want to work. They want to be provided for by the less and less of us who do want to work and they are allowing themselves to be manipulated by elitists like Obama. These protesters are just worried that their parents won’t pay for their iPhones anymore and they will have to get jobs. Fools.

  • Spartan4Life

    Whose income are you supposed to be equal to if you are a 20 year old unemployed college dropout?

    The sheer idiocy of what some of the media is writing about this silly little(and I mean little) protest makes me fear for our collective future. Are they really that stupid? In his piece he points out that the top 1% have the equivalent wealth of the bottom 90%. Doesn’t that imply that most of us are doing about the same?

    The bottom line is that these young people don’t want to work. They want to be provided for by the less and less of us who do want to work and they are allowing themselves to be manipulated by elitists like Obama. These protesters are just worried that their parents won’t pay for their iPhones anymore and they will have to get jobs. Fools.

  • usadying

    How else do you explain the protestors wanting Obama to be re-elected? The “underdog” has bailed out the banks, unions, and his green energy friends to create his election slush fund. It’s amazing that Obama is still their Messiah, even though they have 3 years of “results” to look at. In the meantime, the GOP establishment is giving us Obama lite. I am thoroughly disgusted.

  • dajeeps

    Perhaps it is just my perception from the interviews I’ve seen, but there are plenty of anarchists out there, and not the free market kind either, and plenty of others who feel our political economic system is just completely broken and needs to be replaced.

    And that is where this movement is fundamentally different than the Tea Party – the Tea Party used ballets instead of bullets because I believe we are all committed to our constitution and fixing what is broken rather than trashing it. But these people do not seem to care what they trash, what they throw away in order to achieve a sense of justice being served. Any result from the coming election that is not agreeable to them will just be proof to them that democracy is dead, simply because they will not get what they want.

    These mobs, if they do not just disintegrate by themselves when the money runs out and the freebies disappear, will have to be dealt with at one point or another. And I don’t think we’ve really thought about just how that’s going to go over.

    • funwithknives

      How does any one group control the uncontrollable if they really, really do not want it? We have seen the term *Anarchists* used fairly frequently lately. Combine this with the UseFul Idiots in abundance and what do you have in the end?
      How many of these Mental Midgets do you have to see interviewed, before you realize they are just fodder for a cause? By the time They {ever?} Realize it is too late ,will it be? Just as the curtain comes down, will the futility of Moral and Intellectual Relativism smack them up-side’a their heads?
      We’ve seen Barry and friends break laws just recently (Solyndra/F&F)so it is a reach to imagine it would happen once again? Where is The Line and who is drawing it?

  • Return to Revolution

    Who knew?

    I guess Hitler, Moussolini, etc were the only people ever to have ideas.

  • theprodigy

    I’ve watched a lot of videos and have been in conversation with a lot of these people and they all share a common thread that they’re correct about; the current system needs to be blown up completely. Now it’s true a lot of these people are advocating pretty socialistic policies, but I really believe that’s because we haven’t seen true capitalism in this country, at least not in my 23 years of living. Corporatism is not capitalism and will never be capitalism no matter how many times people try to equate the two. If you run a business and screw up in a pure capitalistic socciety; it’s on you. If you run a business into the ground here, the government takes the people’s money and bails you out. True capitalism provides an equal playing field for all. Right now you have government subsidizing entire industries to the lobbyists that helped get them elected. How is that fair for the rest of the competition? No wonder these people give capitalism a bad rap. Can you blame them? Until we elect someone who will truly represent the people, not the big corps and their lobbyists, we will never truly be free. It’s time for a change, a dramatic shift in the way government is run and operated, and I see only candidate on either side of the aisle, qualified to carry this torch. Any questions, feel free to ask. First post. Peace.

    • renl57

      Both moderate Dems and moderate Repubs love corporatism because they manipulate the system for their own purposes. (Chief of which is getting elected and re-elected.)

      There are good arguments from *both* the committed Left and the committed Right against the government bailing out giant corporations. To the Left, this shows the inordinate power of corporations to get favors. To the Right, this shows the inordinate power of government to grant favors.

      Remember the Congressional debate over TARP in 2008? The only ones who opposed it were a coalition of hard-left Dems (like Dennis Kucinich) and conservative House Republicans. Neither Bush nor Bill Clinton had a problem with TARP.

      If the Tea Party got together with OWS, they could write a common manifesto that says that if profit is private, then private loss should not be socialized.

  • abeldred

    True capitalism provides the opportunity to succeed or fail. It does NOT offer equal playing field however. If you observe the successes of many you will find the odds were against them but in our free society they had the opportunity to succeed. Capitalism requires competition and liberty. Our system at this point quashes both, much of it due to gov’t interference. Corporate welfare, crony capitalism and the like take away opportunity. In addition the Fed totally screws up the system by currency manipulation. Bottom line, we have become an entitlement oriented society because we have been told it is possible and true free markets cannot thrive when the expectation is a “gimme” from the gov’t or elsewhere. Hard work, humility, ethics and patience are all part of what makes it wok. We see little of that today — a result of the moral fabric of America collapsing…but that is another discussion.

    • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

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    • theprodigy

      Right, I think you misunderstood my intent. I wasn’t saying true capitalism provides that we both start with an equal amount of resources. That wasn’t what I meant at all. I was trying to say that if we were truly participating in a free market, and you and I started businesses in the same industry, we each would have to make money off our own merit, not the government’s. It doesn’t matter if you start off with more advantages; if I have better ideas and products, the customers will come to me. As long as government isn’t subsidizing your company, I feel you and I are on an “equal playing field.” That was my point.

  • builder20

    Where exactly are the OWS protesters getting this number? Are they going by the entire world population? If so then that means that 60,000,000 people control 90% of the wealth?

    Do these idiots not realize that THEY are more than likely apart of the 1%, or at least the top 5%?

    http://www.globalrichlist.com/how.html

    According to this website if you as an individual make more than $47,500.00 a year then you are in the top 1% of earners in the world, and control 9.5% of the worlds wealth. The top 10% controls around 50% of the worlds wealth and makes more than $25,000 a year.

    What are these OWS idiots complaining about? They are wealthy! They are the ones they’ve been complaining about!

  • daniel22

    I have always supported free speech. I think it was Voltaire who said ‘Sir I disagree with everything you have said but, I will fight to the death your right to say it.” Voltaire also had his head lopped off during the French Revolution proving free speech isn’t free. This is something I hope OWS learns.
    Both Tea Party and OWS know that the current way of doing business and politics cannot continue in the manner it has for too long. They do disagree on the way to change it if there is a plan to do it.
    Politicians are trying to bend these movements to fit their needs however with the Tea Party Boehner found that is not as easy as he thought it would be. They (politicians) are being forced to actually stand for something past the election. In other words fence sitting is not allowed. We are given a choice to make and to stand by and to make the changes we see are needed.

  • atillathehun

    Marxist/leftist/progressives eventually resort to the violence that is always the precurser to totalitarinism. The present Marxist movement is communisim in disguise. Debating the ideology of Marxism is somehow a waste of my time and the time of others. It has never worked and reading the 5000 Year Leap by Skousen will tell you why.

    • williamjameson

      I’ve seen far better form legitimate groups who dissent like adults. Marxism is too prevalent in today’s media and in the dem party.

      The New York Times almost lost its Pultizer Prize after a 2005 review of Russian news coverage whereby the Treason Times celebrated how the communist country was providing jobs, food and housing and so as the iron curtain dominated every day life and held people back.

      The real story is communists were entering the USA and they are still trying to grow the population. They’ve taken a portion of the media. Watch MSNBC and MSDNC, its obvious almost daily.

  • tngal

    You can’t make this up. How can we hold a steal from the rich rally when everyone is stealing our stuff? They’re screaming bloody murder about banks stealing from them and how everyone is suppose to give them everything for free, and now they’re discovering thieves in their midst. And they are not happy about it.

    Laptops, cameras, and money to be used for food is being taken away.
    Hot air has their own take on it.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/18/celebrated-redistributionists-discover-healthy-respect-for-private-property/

  • williamjameson

    as is the desire to end capitalism. Those who think violence is the solution are stupid fools and Americans next criminal who deserves punishment. Anyone who disagrees also welcomes violence.

    OWS is way too unorganized to be taken seriously. OWS has members advocate for the country to shift to socialism and communism yet none of these people have ever studied what really occurs in such countries.

    OWS seeks forced speech by suggesting they seek to silence the opposition. Statists operate the same way as do the Alinsky thugs.

    OWS members should blame themselves when there are millions of job openings that they refuse to pursue. Very few get high paying jobs right out of school therefore its childish and unrealistic to think success happens overnight. No one should settle either but they must continue to aspire without playing the victim.

    OWS vs Immigrants and Illegals……..those 2 groups have a stronger work ethic than the majority if OWS fools who refuse to take an $8 or $10 an hour job. Success comes from those with the drive and ambition to work hard and continue to aspire.

    OWS is wasting its time occupying, better to form better communication skills at home and meet during the day to protest. The Tea Party has a superior platform that is organized, educated on what they expect from government and the group is nonviolent and racism is non existent……..in fact the media manufactured a good portion of the racist nonsense. The TPs dealt with racial signs long before the buffoon media stopped lying.

    OWS has racist members and anti-Semitic members whom the groups has not run off.

    OWS member died from a drug overdose in Charles Payne’s back yard. Payne is a FOX Business News employee. You’d think they would purge the bad element who sell drugs. Drug use gives them a bad name. Image is everything.

    OWS criminal arrests make them a joke. Very few TP’s ( Tea Partiers) have been arrested and none were arrested for inciting riots. No TP’s have ever attacked a cop………see Washington Post article yesterday because the pic was on the front page. Go ahead and be the apologist for violence, cops deserve far better. Yes most arrests were legitimate, never trust those with the MOB MENTALITY unless the video provides definitive proof that does not need narration nor editing!!!

    OWS is a joke just like the hippie movement was. Should they weed out the violent ones, stop the drug use in public and treat cops with respect, only then should we take them seriously. But only if they form coherent complaints and weed out issues that are being dealt with or beyond the ability of government to provide.

    Some of these people are deadbeats who could take a job in a warehouse or a fast food restaurant and wait till a better job comes along. Instead they whine and support the mob mentality. They refuse to do what most parents did as well as immigrants. Don’t tell me there are no jobs, the moronic media rant those lies daily yet new jobs pop up daily. Plenty of city courier jobs and customer service……..oh my!!

    No one should take someone serious when they threaten to demagogue legitimate dissent of OWS.. OWS is a joke and they operate with the mob mentality. Grow up OWS because you offer no real solutions, only more of the same complaints that will be dealt with over time. Nothing happens overnight but life in a vacuum of demagoguery is nothing short of wasted space. Go home OWS and stop thinking the USA is anything like Egypt.

    “I will probably mock the least among you who simply beg for it. I will point out the flaws of your arguments and attack you when you demagogue. “