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By: Ben Howe (Diary)  |  June 28th, 2012 at 04:55 PM  | 

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Let’s face it. That’s what it is. The Obama administration embraced it in arguments. The Supreme Court concurred. And the moment this was decided, Obama broke yet another promise.


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  • jaykali

    We had been speculating all day what you could do in an ad with the whole tax/mandate ruling. This is perfect. I think this ad and ones like it will be very effective.

    • Ben Howe

      :)

      • rhettorical

        www.genxpolitics.com

      • califgal

        Obama has always been successful in getting people to believe NO TAX will affect anyone making less than 250K and he and his minions will still claim that their insurance policy will NOT go up, in fact, will claim they will save money.

        Yeah, we have to hit the tax aspect of it and the money taken from Medicare, but every_single_day from now to election day Romney and his running mate and every GOP governor from every state needs to read a portion of the law that scares the hell out of people.

        I fear this won’t happen and I don’t know why. Why do I fear it.

        Because, while I thought Romney’s remarks this morning were good, they could have been great with his holding up with two hands because 2700 pages of regulations governing my life and yours is VERY HEAVY that damn bill…and he should have started by reading just ONE passage from it and then every day, every day, every day, every day another!!!!!!!!!

        Please, if anyone has access to the Romney campaign, tell them this. Visuals, visuals, visuals, visuals and read, read, read, read, read–it only has to be a paragraph or a few short sentences at a at a time, but read from that 2700 page document of regulations …..until they hear just how the bureaucracy has taken over their lives.

        • califgal

          ACA sitting in the middle of table, all alone, with the words, “This has just taken over your life.”

        • http://www4.webng.com/rickbull/lostlucky/ rickbull

          is assigned to read the posts and comments on this site daily. Romney would be a fool not to have someone keeping an eye on Redstate. So, pat yourself on the back: you’ve done it. Mitt might not take your comments completely to heart, but don’t be surprised if part of your idea doesn’t show up in swing state political ads.

          By the way, it is a GREAT idea. Good job.

          • dodgeone

            are going to be like this one:” Supreme Court Upholds Affordable Care Act, A Boon To Minority Health In The U.S.”

            Link to headline if you want to rad what they claim: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/28/supreme-court-minority-health-affordable-care-act_n_1634336.html

          • http://www4.webng.com/rickbull/lostlucky/ rickbull

            and hardcore conservative trolls like myself actually read the huff’n'puff post, do you? It has all of the credibility of The Onion, and isn’t as fun to read.

    • jaykali

      You have Axelrod, Rangel, prob others already saying ‘No, it’s not a tax’ – I mean that’s all they have to say. They will say the ‘label’ doesn’t matter, what matters is that this holds ppl responsible, etc., blah blah. It’s really rich that Democrat’s are using the argument of personal responsibility to sell a trillion dollar health care giveaway.

      • tnfriendofcoal101368

        Barack Obama said it was a tax…I quote “today?s decision was a victory for people all over this country” – Supreme Court ruled it was a tax, Obama said the ruling was a victory, therefore Obama agrees it’s a tax.

        • http://www4.webng.com/rickbull/lostlucky/ rickbull

          will be pointing that out in their campaign ads and brochures.

          • jaykali

            I am catching up on news but just as many of us have predicted, it appears the democrats are just denying that the tax is actually a tax. I guess the Sunday shows were dominated by this subject. The great news for us is that this is a /losing/ conversation for democrats to have. Is it a tax or a penalty? Do you think they want to go on and on ab that? Of course not, they are in defense mode which is great. I guess in the end it will be a tax bc it is and so you can’t have politifact or some other bs shill for Obama say, ya this is half true (or maybe nothing will stop politifact). In debates Romney can bring this up over and over. I don’t buy for a second that Romneycare is a liability for Romney. Yes it’s bad, yes it was the model for Obamacare. But that was what Massachusetts wanted. And furthermore when you talk Obamacare, one guy says he will repeal it and the other guy says he won’t. So that’s really all you need to know. That’s why Romney is glad to talk ab the subject whereas Obama will want to change the subject.

  • Tarantulas

    Mitt Romney won the election today. The rest will be mere theater.

  • codenametimna

    Sarah Palin probably said it best: “Obama lies, freedom dies.”

    Obamacare would never have gotten off the ground if Obama and Democrats marketed it as a “tax” on the American people. Democrats and Obama deceived the American people by claiming the mandate was not a tax. But Justice John Roberts ruled the mandate was in fact a tax, and consequently, Justice Roberts essentially told all Americans that Barack Hussein Obama and Democrats in Congress are bald faced liars and deceived the American people in order to pass Obamacare. Justice Roberts viewed the ruling from a judicial restraint standpoint. Since Obamacare is a ‘political’ issue, it should be dealt with at the polls on election day. In other words, Roberts is leaving the decision for repeal in the hands of the American people, not the court system.

    Having said that, I believe Mitt Romney has some explaining to do concerning this video I linked below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvqfsIVu_3I&feature=player_embedded

    In the video Romney is clearly advocating a tax penalty concerning Romneycare in Massachusetts. This was back in 2006 on Fox News by the way. How can Romney complain about Obamacare’s individual mandate “tax” scheme today, when he clearly advocated a similar tax scheme on individuals under Romneycare in Massachusetts? How can the American people trust Romney to repeal Obamacare when previous statements from him clearly advocated for both the individual mandate and for tax penalties to insure its compliance?

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this doesn’t look good for Romney and he needs to come out and address this issue and then reassure the American people that if he’s elected president he’ll keep his promise to repeal Obamacare.

    Most politicians have demonstrated, for the most part, they can’t be trusted to do what they say (just look at Obama as a prime example) and Mitt Romney isn’t helping matters when some of his former statements and previous positions fly in the face of what he’s currently trying to convince Americans he will do once he’s in office. Anybody can say whatever they want. What really matter are actions, not words.

    I just get this queasy feeling inside that if Romney becomes president he may not follow through with his promise to repeal Obamacare. He would still be better than Obama when it comes to getting the economy back on track. But Obamacare is just as important as the economy in many people’s if you ask me. Seventy percent of the American people rigorously oppose Obamacare and Mitt Romney MUST convince people (and himself) that Obamacare will indeed be repealed in its entirety if he’s becomes president. I can’t stress that enough.

    • gekster

      I’ve explained this many times before, but what the hey, again.

      Romney gave MA what the people and the legislature of that state what they wanted. He signed the bill because a veto of it would have been over riden anyway.
      He has a habit of giving the people what they want, and he knowws that as Preident, 70% of the american people don’t want the ACA bill.

      Spend some time watching youtube vids of THIS years campaign speaches.
      Just a suggestion.
      There is a vid of his reaction of todays ruling in an updated front page article today. Watch that one.

    • Warrior

      MA is a state, not a country…

  • marktx

    …he said he’d repeal ObamaCare. That’s great but Romney also said he’d replace it with some of the very same things that make ObamaCare cost prohibitive. For example, Romney supports guaranteed issue,ie, coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. Without a mandate, guaranteed issue would raise the cost of healthcare dramatically unless taxes are raised.

    I’d have much more confidence in Romney if the republicans would come up with a truly market based solution that ended employer provided health insurance completely and replaced it with private insurance purchased directly by the consumer.

    • califgal

      want to take 18-26 year olds off their parents’ policies, as so many of them are now unemployed, and you lose the election if you appear so callous as to say, “And I’m going to see to it that people with pre-conditions go right back to not being able to get insurance.”

      That was the trap when Obamacare was instituted, front-loaded with all the things voters like; backloaded with the awful stuff coming down in Obama’s 3rd year of a second term.

    • commonsenseobserver

      Never saw that part. What I do know is that he believes people who are already covered by insurance should not lose their coverage once they get ill, or when they change their job while “ill”.

  • califgal

    “It?s (it=Robert’s argument) s an interesting argument, but one that should have Americans worried. Basically, this is a tax that you have to pay to private companies. For all of the screaming the Right did over single-payer ? and for good, outcome-based reasons ? at least the money paid by taxpayers would go directly to government [see update II]. The Supreme Court has signed off on what is, in very practical terms, a tax levied by the insurance industry on Americans simply for existing. It?s an amazing, and fearsome, decision that really should have both Right and Left horrified.

    Nevertheless, this is the law of the land. We can now look forward to taxes levied by the auto industry for not having bought a new car in the last seven years, the liquor industry for buying too few bottles of wine to maintain your health, and by the agricultural industry for not buying that damned broccoli after all. We might even have Obama attempt to impose a tax for not buying enough contraception; we can call that the Trojan tax.”

    Sorry, guess I should have posted this on the thread Erik started, “Not mad at John Roberts.”

    • The_Rebel

      What I can’t wait to see is the first “legitimate” poll (likely voters, realistic D/R/I spread) on the Presidential race taken after this ruling. I don’t think Obama is going to like it.

  • califgal

    Gee, I really hope you’re right.

    Most involved voters won’t changed their opinions one iota, but there are minions who think like this: “Oh, I headr on the news that the ‘head of the Court,’ who’s a Republican, agrees with Obama. That must mean it’s okay if he like it.”

    Notice they won’t know Roberts’ name nor his title (thus how I refered to him) but they’l know what they’ve heard on the five minute news break on the radio station and they’ll see the headlines somewhere.

    I say again: Never overestimate the IQ of the American people.

    • Warrior

      the attention span of the avg American is pretty short these days. And with a highly manipulative, left-wing media, well, the agitprop never ends…

      • califgal

        Last week, I asked my cousin, a teacher of 30+ years in NJ, what her major source of news was. She answered, “NBC News.” I asked her more specifically, “Who are the anchors?” She responded, “Brian Williams” and “the hosts of the Today Show”.

        Next, I asked her if she had heard the phrase, “Fast and Furious.”

        Her answer was, “Uh, I think I have, but I don’t know what it refers to.”

        She works all day teaching second graders, comes home tired, makes dinner, then turns on the news to NBC. She dresses in the morning with the Today Show in the background.

        She was embarrassed when I told her the story of Brian Terry and Fast and Furious. She was mortified, actually. I spent the next half hour talking to her about NBC, GE, Comcast, and then Brian Williams, Andrea Mitchell, Matt Lauer, the elite, etc.

        In her innocence, she asked, “But why would they want to make the other side look bad?”

        You see, she’s operating from what she learned in her high school and college days when she had been taught that a news source was held to certain standards, when they had biases, of course, but there were checks and balances on those biases, at least a little.

        College educated, yet no knowledge of Fast and Furious .

        Some good news–she’s a registered democrat, relents that Christie is accomplishing some good things although she hates his style (as you might guess a second grade teacher might), and announced long ago to me that she voted for Obama but can’t stand him now.

        • funwithknives

          A Thinker , but no objectivity.
          Gives lessons, but ignores what is plainly in sight, if she cares enough to look.
          I suppose she exhorts her students to be ‘well-rounded’ but from what is explained, it’s really kinda’ doubtful.
          It’s really too bad P S parents can’t get refunds when “education” is not really apparent.

          But please, don’t ever let her get away with the expression: “…I’m doing the best I can…”
          That’s a whole new ball game……..

    • The_Rebel

      that people like this even vote.

  • Warrior

    — Proverbs 24:20

    BTW, when did the executive branch obtain taxing authority??

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