Haley Barbour’s in Some Hot Water


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On today’s edition of Coffee and Markets, Brad Jackson is joined by Pejman Yousefzadeh to discus Haley Barbour’s recent comments, the START Treaty and more.

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Barbour and the PC Police

victrola Wednesday, December 22nd at 11:36AM EDT (link)

These attacks that he’s racially insensitive are disgusting.

I will say though, as much as I like Barbour, I view him as completely unelectable as President. A former tobacco lobbyist with a heavy Southern drawl and former Governor of Mississippi, that really personifies every Republican stereotype.

I’m not saying that’s fair, but politics never is. Barbour would play well in the Old South, but the GOP already has that completely locked up. Where we need to win is places like Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado, Minnesota, Nevada, etc. I just don’t see Barbour playing well in those states.

55555 nt

dontell Wednesday, December 22nd at 6:49PM EDT (link)
 

Is there someplace that I can get transcripts of the show?

The_Gadfly (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 11:48AM EDT (link)

I know that seems like an odd request with print being dead and all the effort you guys go through to make it an audio show, but I prefer to read things at lunch as opposed to using the streaming bandwidth to listen to something.

Thanks.

I literally have no access

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 7:26PM EDT (link)

to this video show only. I have dial up for God sakes, in this day and age. I have no access to high speed, because I live in a very rural area, where the only way you can get access to the high speed required to view videos would be to pay the high costs to install yet another satellite dish, and pay the high fees for that access. Sorry to admit, but, I haven’t seen an internet video in years. Besides, why would I pay all those costs for a rental property. And, I haven’t missed anything yet that I need to know from other sources. It’d also be nice if the job market opened up to be able to afford, what for some now, would be luxuries.

In The Near Future

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 7:55PM EDT (link)

It will start making sense for you to just install the dish for the internet and scrap the one for your TV, and use the internet for your television.

I don’t have any satellite or cable right now because I actually find it mostly a distraction, but I do have access to everything I want. And if I absolutely want to watch something real time I have a sling player on my computer that allows me to watch whatever I want on any computer of my choice by streaming it off of a family members satellite box.

So, we are fast approaching the point where you can get everything you want on cable or satellite on the net.

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I don't know about that wonk

Scope (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 9:47PM EDT (link)

Julius Seizure promised me that I can get high speed real soon because I are one of those rural rednecks. Why should I pay for anything when the gubment can give it to me for free. I ain’t payin’ for nutin’. LOL

Good Point, Ha Ha

wonkish1 (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 10:48PM EDT (link)

But being serious keep your eye on it. Once you can get all the channels you care about online, it will likely make more sense to just switch out your satellite TV dish for a satellite internet dish.

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Sorry to hear that Scope.

The_Gadfly (Diary) Thursday, December 23rd at 11:24AM EDT (link)

I thought we were the last two die hards when we ditched dial-up a few years back. I was finally able to show my housemate that the cost of the DSL line was less than the cost of the extra phone line and the dial up account. But then I live in a major metropolitan area.

I will confess I’m a bit surprised your current provider doesn’t also offer internet. But the machincations of ISPs are beyond my ken.

Of course, I’m sure you haven’t missed a great deal, and certainly nothing worthwhile.

 
 
 

I like Haley, too, but ...

frankieb (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 12:24PM EDT (link)

My political fat man of choice is Chris Christie.

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Anyone who would be offended by his remarks

Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 1:45PM EDT (link)

would have never voted for him in the first place.

However, the vast majority who aren’t offended by his remarks would never vote for him either.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 

Why must we pretend.

NeoKong (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 3:28PM EDT (link)

He never had a chance.

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Gosh NeoKong could you elaborate

pilgrim (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 3:33PM EDT (link)

Can you you fully explain why Haley Barbour never had a chance, and not use any prejudice or bigotry toward white southerners in your explanation.


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He's not Presidential material.

NeoKong (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 6:18PM EDT (link)

He’s a regional guy.
Not national.
I like the guy but I wouldn’t pretend he can knock off Barack Obama.
Why you so mad…?

Follow me on Twitter.

Sorry if I appeared like I was mad.

pilgrim (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 6:59PM EDT (link)

It is simply not true that Haley is a regional guy. He worked in Washington, DC on President Reagan’s staff, later as the Chairman of the RNC, and later yet he started a lobbying firm, BGR, that became the largest one in DC. Only after working on the national scene in those different positions did he return to Mississippi to become Governor.

I like the knowledge he has of Washington, DC as well as the executive leadership he has shown as governor of Mississippi.


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I think part of the problem is bigotry on the part of non-southerners

bk (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 6:36PM EDT (link)

There are millions of people outside the south who hear an accent like his and immediately think he MUST be an illiterate redneck with 18 teeth, married to his cousin, making moonshine, living in a shed with an outhouse, driving a truck with a gun rack and a Confederate flag, straight out of “Deliverance” who thinks the James Byrd Jr murderers were just good old boys having a little fun.

We live in a screwed-up world when we can have idiots from states that are 95% white calling every white southerner who’s not liberal a racist. But it’s where we are unfortunately.

And further.....

bobmontgomery (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 6:59PM EDT (link)

……..we can’t escape it even on our own pages. We have to endure it from the MSM and then the Conservative Establishment Press has to chime in “Did you hear what Haley said? Read it in WAPO! Like him but he’s not, you know…..”. “Did you hear what Andrew Breitbart did! Why, Talking Points Memo is all over it! Why, sure, he’s right about the NAACP but he really needs to apologize to Shirley Sherrod because obviously she’s a saint!” “We just love Sarah to death but, really, you know…Idaho State University? The Dems will have a field day with us if we nominate her!”
Sometimes I think the Conservative Establishment, in its quest to find the perfect candidate, ought to nominate Barack Hussein Obama …now that guy’s the total package!

If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington

 

As a Southerner, it would truly reduce my opinion of non-Southerners

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 9:34PM EDT (link)

if I thought the number of such bigots was electorally significant but its hard for me to think so given LBJ, JEC, WJC and even Dubya to an extent.

However, I don’t rule out that it is, given my own sad realization over the 5 years from some comments at Redstate that such bigots do exist in large numbers.

I suspect, though, that the tea partier movement and the economy will greatly reduce any aversion to a Southern nominee. I would admit though that I think the press treats Palin badly partly because of her accent.

I’m going to do a column over the next few days that addresses the issue in the context of Barbour’s statement.

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The accent only matters if you're conservative

bk (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 9:46PM EDT (link)

Liberals give a free pass to any liberal.

Dubya doesn’t have much of an accent to me, but then again I was raised a Yat and have lived in Texas for almost 30 years.

Yes, but that pertains only to the press and ideological/yellow dawg lib-dems, but

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 9:56PM EDT (link)

the real question is the significance of the bigotry in those swing voters in which a Southern accent would override other policy factors.

I actually got a lot of publicity 2 yrs ago when I challenged Hugh Hewitt and others that were down on Fred because they thought that Dubya had poisoned the well for southerners.

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So Neo is a lib and

The_Gadfly (Diary) Thursday, December 23rd at 11:28AM EDT (link)

it’s safe for me to ignore his posts?

 
 

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aesthete (Diary) Thursday, December 23rd at 1:36AM EDT (link)

The South breaks about even in the post-WWII period as far as Presidents go (Eisenhower, LBJ, Carter, Bill Clinton, GWB) as opposed to the rest of the states (Truman, JFK, Nixon, Reagan, Obama, GHWB)

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bk, gamecock doesn't know any Southerners that would let a yankee accent

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 9:42PM EDT (link)

trump policy on votes for President. Therefore, these not infrequent “admissions” by non-Southerners of widespread anti-Southern bigotry gives me a superiority complex with respect to Southerners and makes me quite sad with respect to non-Southerners.

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I agree - we are less bigoted down here -nt

bk (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 9:48PM EDT (link)

5555555555 - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 9:57PM EDT (link)

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I don't think its real, its a false perception of the perception of others

JSobieski (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 10:41PM EDT (link)

Kind of like with respect to some of the economic hard times in the early W years. People were worried about the economy, but polls showed that people were worried about the situation their neighbor was in, not the situation they were in. Overall, the majority of the country felt good about their own situation, but over 55% were worried about the economy.

Any people with true anti-South feelings are really anti-conservative, so we wouldn’t get those people anyway.,

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I hope you are right bro' - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, December 22nd at 10:49PM EDT (link)

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What about Obama's weird way of talking, where he takes dramatic pauses, and always emphasizes the last word of a sentence? Normal people don't talk that way.

nvrepub (Diary) Thursday, December 23rd at 12:30AM EDT (link)

I wish Obama were abnormally...conservative! - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, December 23rd at 8:44AM EDT (link)

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