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Elena Kagan Nomination Debate Preview

President Obama is expected to announce at 10 am this morning that Elena Kagan will be submitted to the Senate for confirmation to the U.S. Supreme Court.  From FoxNews.com:

President Barack Obama is to nominate Solicitor General Elena Kagan as his pick to replace retiring Justice John Paul Stevens on the Supreme Court, NBC News reported Sunday.

Let the vetting begin.  A preview of the Senate debate on Kagan to be Supreme Court Justice can be found in the Congressional Record preceding the March 19, 2009 vote on her nomination to be President Obama’s Solicitor General.  Kagan is going to have a rough ride — she only passed on a 61-31 vote.

The March 2009 debate is a preview to the public debate that will be going on over the next few weeks from coast to coast.  Kagan was hit hard on her actions in banning the military from recruiting on campus at Harvard Law.  She was also critiqued for not having the necessary experience for the Obama Solicitor General position.  These issues will be front and center in this debate.  Will this be President Obama’s Harriet Miers Moment?

The Solicitor General position is the confirmed presidential appointee to assist Attorney General Eric Holder in representing the interests of the Obama Administration before the U.S. Supreme Court.  The US Department of Justice describes the Solicitor General as the following:

The original Statutory Authorization Act of June 22, 1870, states, “There shall be in the Department of Justice an officer learned in the law, to assist the Attorney General in the performance of his duties to be called the Solicitor General.” The Office of the Solicitor General is tasked to conduct all litigation on behalf of the United States in the Supreme Court, and to supervise the handling of litigation in the federal appellate courts. The general functions of the Office can be found at 28 CFR 0.20.

Some Senators will argue that Kagan lacks the requisite experience to be a justice on the Supreme Court.  Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) on the Senate Floor on March 19, 2009 his reservations for Kagan to be Solicitor General:

Well, so far as I can observe, other than time in the White House Counsel’s Office, Dean Kagan has only practiced law for 2 years in a real law firm practicing law. She had very limited experience in the things you would look for in a person of this nature.

If Kagan did not possess the experience as a judge or practitioner to be Solicitor General, then, even with a year under her belt as Solicitor General, it is hard to argue that she is qualified to be on the highest court in the land.

Sessions raised the issue of Kagan’s, in her capacity as Dean of the Harvard Law School, barring the U.S military from recruiting on campus, because of the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy on gays in the military:

During her tenure as dean, Ms. Kagan barred the U.S. military from coming on the Harvard Law School campus to recruit young law graduates to be JAG officers in the U.S. military. That was from November of 2004 through September of 2005. She barred them from coming and recruiting on campus while 150,000 of our finest men and women in this country were serving in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and during a time in which 938 troops died in combat, preserving the rights of people like law deans, faculty, and students to have all the opinions they want. Her decision to bar the military from her campus during a time of armed conflict represents exceedingly poor judgment and leadership, particularly for someone who wants to lead the Department of Justice, the executive branch, and support the military of the United States. By refusing to allow military recruiters on the Harvard Law School campus, she placed her own opposition to military policies above the need of our military men and women to receive good legal advice, even from Harvard lawyers. And she did so at a time when the military, serving in conflicts in two foreign countries, was facing a host of complex legal issues. We are still fighting over them, for that matter.

Congress passed something called the Solomon Amendment that conditioned federal money to be given to a University on that campus allowing military recruitment.  If a school was to bar the military, then they were to get no federal funds.  Dean Kagan barred the military from recruiting on the Harvard Law campus, in violation of that provision in law.  Kagan then joined a friend of the Court brief in the Rumsfeld v FAIR case arguing that her actions were not a violation of the law.  Sessions argued that Kagan’s brief contained a presumption that was “clearly wrong as a matter of law.”  Kagan had called the law “immoral” and showed poor legal judgement in her actions and in signing the brief. 

Sessions argued:

I think a nominee to be the Department of Justice’s chief advocate before the Supreme Court, to hold the greatest lawyer job in the world, should have a record of following the law and not flouting it. The nominee should, if anything, be a defender of the U.S. military and not one who condemns them. Ms. Kagan’s personal political views, I think, are what led to this criticism of the military, this blocking of the military. She opposed a plain congressional act that was put into place after we went through years of discussion and pleading with some of these universities that were barring the military. They had refused to give in, so we passed a law that said, OK, you don’t have to admit the military, but we don’t have to give you money, and we are not giving you any if you don’t admit them. They didn’t like that. So Ms. Kagan’s refusal of on-campus military recruiters went against a congressional act.

Senator Jim Inhofe (R-OK)also criticized Kagan for her actions in barring the military from recruiting at Harvard Law School:

When serving as a dean of Harvard Law School, she demonstrated poor judgment on a very important issue to me. Ms. Kagan banned the U.S. military from recruiting on campus. She and other law school officials sued to overturn the Solomon amendment. The Solomon amendment originated in the House. Congressman Jerry Solomon had an amendment that said no university could preclude the military from trying to recruit on campus. This was a direct violation of the amendment. She actually was claiming that the Solomon amendment was immoral. She filed an amicus brief with the Supreme Court opposing the amendment. The Court unanimously ruled against her position and affirmed that the Solomon amendment was constitutional.

Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ)supported Kagan for the temporary S.G.’s position after stating that he had reservations about her actions relating to the Solomon Amendment controversy and her lack of experience as a judge or practitioner.  Kyl did make it clear that his vote for her to by Solicitor General is no indication as to whether he would vote for her lifetime appointment to the U.S. Supreme Court:

I would like to make clear that my vote for Dean Kagan is only for the position of Solicitor General, and my vote does not indicate how I would vote for her if she were nominated for any other position, especially a position that is a lifetime appointment. Specifically, according to numerous news accounts, Dean Kagan is expected to be considered for nomination to the Supreme Court if an opening were to occur during the Obama administration. If she were nominated, her performance as Solicitor General would be critical in my evaluation of her suitability for the Supreme Court. My decision whether to support or oppose her would be strongly influenced by the decisions made by her as Solicitor General, such as the cases for which she does and does not seek review, the positions she argues, and the bases for her arguments. If she approaches her job as Solicitor General ideologically or argues inappropriate positions, I will not hesitate to oppose her nomination.

Senator Jim Bunning (R-KY) expressed reservations about the Solomon Amendment controversy and Kagan’s extreme views on religion and religious organizations participation in the counseling of pregnant teenagers:

Dean Kagan has also expressed an unsettling attitude towards religion and religious organizations. In a memo as a law clerk on the subject of which organizations should receive funding to counsel teenagers on pregnancy, she wrote “It would be difficult for any religious organization to participate in such projects without injecting some kind of religious teaching.” She added “When government funding is to be used for projects so close to the central concerns of religion, all religious organizations should be off limits.” This seems like an incredibly insensitive, insulting, and impractical view to hold. Does Dean Kagan feel that only atheists are fit to handle government funds? Would she support some sort of a “religious commitment” litmus test? This seems like an attitude that would be unfit for a high ranking member of our government.

Even Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA at the time) expressed reservations about the nominee because she would not answer direct questions and was evasive about her views on specific issues.  Specter stated that it was tough to find “out from a nominee what the nominee thinks on important questions.”  Expect Kagan to be even more evasive and to not answer any question about her feelings on issues that are important to Senators during the Supreme Court confirmation process.  Sadly, the confirmation process for judges has devolved into the functional equivalent of a constitutional law oral examination with nominees merely reciting existing case law then stating that they would follow binding precedent.  Specter pledged to vote no and concluded:

She feels she does not have to answer questions because it would be inappropriate because the case is pending and the Solicitor General has rendered an opinion. Well, I disagree with that. I have no illusion the issues I have raised will prevail. I think it is pretty plain that Dean Kagan will be confirmed. But I do not articulate this as a protest vote or as a protest position, but one of institutional prerogatives. We ought to know more about these nominees. We ought to take the confirmation process very seriously. I believe the scarcity and paucity of Senators who have come to the floor to debate this nomination does not, candidly, speak too well for this institution. We are all waiting to vote to go home. But this is an important position. For a Supreme Court Justice nominee, television cameras would be present during the hearings, and everybody would be there, and everybody would be on camera.   Well, I think we have to pay a little more attention, and I have gone to some length to try to find out more about Dean Kagan. In the absence of being able to do so and to have a judgment on her qualifications, I am constrained to vote no.

Three issues will be central to the prospects of Kagan’s confirmation to the U.S. Supreme Court.  First, did she disqualify herself for a lifetime appointment to the Court with her extreme actions in barring the military from recruiting on the Harvard Law campus.  Second, will she legislate from the bench and exhibit the same elitist attitude that lead her to disregard the Solomon Amendment by barring the military from recruiting on campus during time of war.  Finally, will she answer any questions during the confirmation process allowing Senators to understand her judicial philosophy.  If the answer is no to the final question, conservative Senators may filibuster the Kagan nomination for the purpose of forcing Kagan, and future nominees, to directly answer questions about judicial philosophy.  Any way you slice it, this is going to be a tough nomination process and a difficult confirmation battle.

COMMENTS

  • legacyrepublican

    I am tired of the SCOTUS being populated by either Harvard or Yale.

    Although I disagreed with Stevens as a conservative, I did like the fact that he came from Northwestern.

    O’Conner was from Stanford.

    But, come on. Why is it that we have only the Ivy League Tower deciding the fate of the country’s judicial system.

    I remember one of Bush’s nominees being filibustered solely because they went to SMU, a fine law school.

    I think the GOP has to start cleaning house by claiming INCEST at the top of their lungs and that the POTUS has to got to start by bringing fresh blood into the SCOTUS by avoiding HARVARD, YALE, and the rest of the Ivy League.

    • mikerazar

      Harvard Law School Graduates:
      Roberts, Breyer, Kennedy, Scalia, Ginsburg*, Kagan

      Yale Law School Graduates:
      Thomas, Scalia, Sotomayor

      *started at Harvard but graduated from Columbia,

      Kagan brings nothing to the Court but a commitment to ignore the Constitution.

  • lukematthews

    means this nominee must be a far left advocate. While it is very sad to take kneejerk reactions into consideration, it must be understood this nominee would have to have a far left tack to her ideology otherwise this administrations, er regime, would never consider her.

    we have descended into the maelstrom of madness.

    • IJB

      If Obama wanted to run up the ‘red flag’, and put a real, radical far Leftie on there, he would have nominated someone like Cass Sunstein.

      Kagan strikes me as more of a ‘cipher’ – she doesn’t strike me as someone who’s going to win other Justices over to her side with brilliant legal philosophy. She doesn’t even strike me as someone who’s as ‘out there’ as Sotomayor. She’s nothing more than a garden variety Ivory Tower administrator – sure, they’re Leftie, but they’re generally feckless and ineffective.

      Brian’s ‘Harriett Miers’ analogy seems apt – this development strikes me as Obama forgoing a move to put a real (effective) Leftie firebrand in there, thus forgoing an all-out SCOTUS battle.

      The White House must realize they are in more political trouble than I thought, and so are mostly throwing in the towel on this one. That’s all the good for our side.

      (That said, nothing less than 31 ‘No’ votes will satisfy me on this one. And I expect, in the end, the GOP will rustle up about 35 ‘No’ votes on this nomination…)

  • jojoe

    What is he thinking with this one. Is he hoping that she will be denied so he can bring on the heavy duty liberal,

    • Brian Darling

      We don’t have any evidence that she is not a “heavy duty liberal.” We will find out too late if she is a stealth liberal candidate if she gets confirmed because conservatives are worried about who would replace her as the nominee if she was defeated. Senators need to ask tough and probing questions at the Senate Judiciary Hearing.

  • libertylover

    Kagan’s actually going to be very difficult to attack. The Harriet Miers comparison doesn’t really work because she does have legal bona fides. Professor and President at Harvard Law School, Solicitor General. As a lawyer I can say that she is held in high regard across the political spectrum, for her legal mind.

    As for ideology, the difficulty is that she doesn’t have much of a paper trail, since she was never a judge.

    I almost wish Obama has picked someone more liberal that would have been easier to pick apart, a Cass Sunstein or Pam Karlan.

    We’ll make lots of noise about why we don’t like Kagan in the days and weeks to come, as we should. But I guarantee you she’ll be confirmed in short order and we’ll be stuck with a young liberal on the court (age 50…). Not to be pessimistic, just sayin how it is.

    • http://www.ufcle.com/willis/willis.htm Steven Willis

      As a law professor, I can tell you nine listed publications (including 2 book reviews and a dedication) is mighty slim. You vastly overstate her academic or practical bona fides. What evidence of her sharp legal mind do you have?

      I have not yet read all of her articles; however, the list is unimpressive.

      • spainishirish

        She may even be more unaccomplished than Miers Conservatives should not block Kagan because she is such an utter mediocrity her influence on the court will be minimal. Although he is an ideologue, Obama is first and foremost a political hack, our first affirmative action president and emblematic of all the bad that represents. I am glad he has decided to go with his base instincts rather than his philosophy when he appoints justices. He sees in Kagan what he is: a Chauncey the Gardener who has gotten pretty far on grievance rather than merit.

        Yes, Kagan is a joke but she will not influence swing votes.

    • smagar

      When nine (count ‘em—NINE) Senate seats flip to the Dems, in a year that the nation elects the most hardcore liberal President in generations, these kinds of Justices are inevitable. Until the next Presidential election.

      By November 2012, expect Souter and Ginzburg to retire, and be replaced by Kagan think-alikes, who are young and in great health.

      The silver lining in that: Americans don’t like the idea of being led by the federal judiciary. When judges stop being judges and start being philosopher kings/queens, American voters start getting P.O.’ed.

      It’s our job to remind them that a federal legislature and executive, in Republican hands, can constrain a Democratic judiciary.

      Now THERE’s an argument for an enduring Republican majority.

  • http://xmmlbchat.blogspot.com katesmith

    Mona Charen and John Fund on the John Batchelor show were asked about Kagan, neither thought she’d have much problem getting approved. I believe Fund said even though Kagan is a liberal she has treated conservatives well on a couple of occasions. She is therefore said to have a potential for being conciliatory which Sotomayor is definitely not (he said). He said the idea is to get someone in there who can sway Anthony Kennedy for the rest of his life. They apparently see Kagan able to do that. Charen brought up that she’s well know for gay rights issues, was the one who kept ROTC out of Harvard due to don’t ask don’t tell.

    • edintexas

      She kept both ROTC and military recruiters off campus while Dean of Harvard Law. I’m sure it has been pointed out elsewhere, but it bears repeating that she did this in violation of Federal Statute. THAT SHOULD make a heck of a difference for someone being considered for the SCOTUS, but it won’t. Lefties can ignore the law (both on and off the bench), claiming a “higher calling”, with impunity. She has thus shown that her personal preferences will cause her to violate the law, which (as I think I pointed out) SHOULD eliminate her from any appointment as a judge, much less a SCOTUS Associate Justice.

  • spinoneone

    So now we have 0 and company nominating a female empty suit to the Supreme Court. How wonderful! Let’s see, 8 out of 9 from the Ivy League or the West Coast equivalent and not a Protestant in the lot. Now that is what I call diversity and balance.

    Her obviously jaundiced views of the U.S. military do not bode well. No legal record. No experience in any court. No, the Solicitor General position doesn’t count since someone else would have prepared the briefs and background notes. So far as I can tell, this woman has never been the chief defense lawyer in her career; she has zero criminal law experience.

    • edintexas

      As a member of the Administration, she could reasonably be expected to support actions of the Administration. You can bet your bottom peso (soon to exceed the value of the USD if things don’t change) that she won’t recuse herself simply because she and her employees most likely have already been preparing to defend Obamacare before the Courts (State suits having been filed). She may also have been involved in Administration discussions of the legal aspects of Obamacare.

  • wolfgang

    The Kagan nomination should be pigeon holed, deferred, stuffed into a shoe box, until a Senate that more closely represents the American people is present to vote on her nomination. After the Abomination, the subversion of the Constitution, the legislative travesty that was Obamacare, the American people deserve and demand that much. The inexorable march to a Communist State must stop with Kagan. We’ll talk about your Supreme Court Nominee after the new Congress is sworn in 2011, Mr Obama.

  • http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

    Simply because Republicans such as Orrin Hatch don’t believe in filibustering these people without huge cause. Kagan is ultraliberal…but unless there is something I haven’t seen, she will get the votes needed.

    Of course, beware nominating someone without a record…remember Souter and Warren.

    http://neoavatara.com/blog/?p=10891

    • SIConservative

      “Liberal” is a poor label for a judicial nominee. Save that for the political branches. What matters is whether she thinks the Constitution is living or dead, and whether in either case that would determine her decisions.

      • blooch

        I mean, since we can’t define a nominee to the “non-political” branch as “liberal” or “conservative”, would that work for you?

  • SIConservative

    Personally, I think that the Solomon Amendment should be a non-issue. I want to be clear on this and state that I haven’t seen the context of her use of the word “immoral”. If she’s using immorality as a legal argument, that creates a major concern, as that has nothing to do with the judicial branch. If the context, however, were in discussing or writing about the matter separately, those are her social/political views. If she has the proper temperament to sit on the Court, their irrelevant as to how she would rule. If she can demonstrate that she has the proper temperament to sit on the Court, I think it would be hypocritical of us to oppose her confirmation based on the views for which she might properly be attacked in a political campaign.

    I’d also put aside the Harriet Miers comparison. While that may yet prove out, it appears at first glance that she is well enough respected by her peers that intellectual heft is not an issue. I’m actually glad that he nominated someone from outside the judiciary for a change. If I had my way, none of the nine would be lawyers. I’d like to see the Court decide issues based on a simple application of the Constitution to the facts before them.

    The other big question is her judicial philosophy. How would she deal with Constitutionally dubious precedent? What role does precedent play? How much weight do precedent and the Constitution carry as compared to the practical effects of the Court’s rulings? Was Marburry rightly decided? (Okay, while I’m on solid Constitutional ground, I unfortunately think I’m asking too much with that last one.) The President’s statements alone on his standard for selecting SCOTUS nominees are troubling, but I also think that she deserves the chance to respond to these questions before we pass judgment.

    • Tbone

      if she had actually been a …. judge.

      “The other big question is her judicial philosophy. How would she deal with Constitutionally dubious precedent? What role does precedent play? How much weight do precedent and the Constitution carry as compared to the practical effects of the Court?s rulings? Was Marburry rightly decided?”

      • SIConservative

        Souter spent ten years on the First Circuit Court of Appeals and twelve years on the New Hampshire Supreme Court and look how that turned out. Lower court federal judgeships aren’t terribly illustrative of judicial temperament or philosophy. Those judges are bound by SCOTUS precedent. As a supreme, though, they can overturn such precedent.

        • Tbone

          You say you want non-lawyers and then you bemoan the fact that Kagan has no judicial record.

          • SIConservative

            Show me where I did that. I said that she has to answer questions. No more, no less.

          • Tbone

            1. “I?m actually glad that he nominated someone from outside the judiciary for a change. If I had my way, none of the nine would be lawyers.”

            2.”The other big question is her judicial philosophy. How would she deal with Constitutionally dubious precedent? What role does precedent play? How much weight do precedent and the Constitution carry as compared to the practical effects of the Court?s rulings?”

            LOL. How does one “prove up” her judicial philosophy without any track record?

            BTW, is there any relationship between morality and equity?

          • SIConservative

            Further, any federal judicial record would be bound by SC precedent, so unless it is wildly out of whack with both that and the Constitution, it doesn’t tell us much. Unless, of course, you’re dumb enough to think that there’s no difference between the Supreme Court and lower courts. Based on your comments here, though, you might actually be that dumb.

            As to your other question, morality should have no bearing on a Supreme Court Justice’s decisions and equality, which I think is what you were going for, should only impact them in such cases as the Constitution dictates.

          • Tbone

            stupid.

            “Further, any federal judicial record would be bound by SC precedent,”.

            This is why appeals are made.

          • SIConservative

            As a practical matter, appeals are made because one party or the other doesn’t like the decision made by the lower court. Appeals are successful, though, when lower court judges ignore precedent set by a higher court, apply the wrong precedent set by the higher court, or act on a case in which the higher court or Constitution has failed to set a standard and feels the need to establish one. The appeals system does not offer carte blance to lower court judges to ignore the precedent set by higher courts because there’s an off chance the higher court will reverse its prior decision.

          • Tbone

            You said: ?Further, any federal judicial record would be bound by SC precedent,?.

            Then you said: “lower court judges ignore precedent set by a higher court, apply the wrong precedent set by the higher court, or act on a case in which the higher court or Constitution has failed to set a standard and feels the need to establish one.”

            So which is it, are federal judicial records bound by precedent or are they inclusive of decisions that, ” ignore precedent set by a higher court, apply the wrong precedent set by the higher court, or act on a case in which the higher court or Constitution has failed to set a standard and feels the need to establish one.”which may be overturned on appeal? You really can’t have it both ways.

          • SIConservative

            Dealing with the three cases I mentioned:

            a) ignoring precedent – yes, judges can do that in the same way that cops can choose not to enforce laws with which they disagree. As a practical matter, it is possible, but both could and should lose their jobs for it. Ignoring precedent set by higher courts could easily lead to the impeachment and removal of a judge. Such cases are well outside the norm, even among judges who prove to legislate from the bench once they are on the highest court within the system (state or federal).

            b) applying the wrong precedent – This can and does happen, and would easily be the most common instance in which cases are overturned. Typically it is not done in an attempt to legislate from the bench. Instead, it is the result of weighting the facts of a case differently than judges of a higher court would have. The court system works, to the extent that it does, because these are a relatively small minority of cases. Judges on lower courts typically work to apply the precedent that in their view most closely applies to the facts of the case before them. They’re not attempting to pick and choose the precedent that best fits their predetermined conclusions.

            c) setting the precedent – This can come up, but almost never does. It’s possible for a judge to sit on the bench for decades and never hear a case in which he would have to set a precedent that refers only to the Constitution because nothing done by a higher court would apply. In such case, yes, a close examination of the case would be warranted, and we could draw plenty of conclusions on the judge’s judicial philosophy and temperament based on the reasoning in his decision. If you’re going to base your case that she needs to have a record on this, I would only ask whether you supported the confirmation of now-Justices Alito and Roberts. If so, can you please point to such a case on which they ruled?

        • BillM

          He “served” there from 5/25/90 to 10/9/90. I have read where he actually never heard a case, as he was nominated to SCOTUS on 7/25, but I don’t have a link.

          Souter only served 7 years on that Constitutional hotbed known as the SCoNH; the previous 5 years he was on the Superior Court. before that he spent 7 years in the NH AG’s office.

          “(A)ren’t terribly illustrative” is certainly correct interms of both Souter & Kagan.

          • SIConservative

            Yep. Big mistake. My bad. I apologize.

            As for his record in the state, it’s not unusual for judges to be selected from state Supreme Courts. One might even argue that the respect that they showed for the state Constitution could be indicative of how they would respect the federal one, as they would have been in a position to overturn precedent rather than be bound by it, as they would be as federal judges in any court other than the Supreme Court.

  • sertelt

    Obama will nominate pro-abortion activist Elena Kagan this morning to become the next Supreme Court justice. Sign the
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    http://www.iopposekagan.com

  • spainishirish

    Fortunately, like the “wise Latina,” Kagan is so unaccomplished that she will have a minimal effect on the court. Republicans need to bear in mind that this utter mediocrity will be like Sotomayor in that she will have no influence with swing votes, quite unlike the charming left-wing fanatic she will replace.

  • Tbone

    in that they are all less qualified than he. As such, they are consistently crap.

  • smagar

    Now is the time for the conservative movement’s great legal thinkers—Ted Olson, John Eastman, Hugh Hewitt, Andrew McCarthy—to start articulating opposition to Kagan over the Solomon Amendment.

    Stiffing military recruiters plays well in the Harvard and Yale faculty circles, Hollywood and the elite echelons of Democratic Party.

    Amongst the American public, whose sons and daughters have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan with virtually NO help from America’s Ivy League—not so miuch.

    GOP Senate staffers should delay Kagan’s nomination hearings until the GOP Senate can mount a full-fledged pounding of Kagan on this issue.

    Freeze the target. Personalize it. Polarize it.

    • smagar

      Whitaker, IIRC, was a Navy recruiter who went to Yale Law School a few years back to recruit. The student body greeted him by—hanging black crepe paper, as a sign of mourning! Many also protested his appearance.

      Powerline was all over this story.

      For those GOP staffers who read this blog—-can you please take this idea and DO something with it please!

      If you are a GOP staffer who’s a holdover from the Bush 43 “New Tone Kum-ba-yah Kick Me Please” days, please forward this note to someone in your office with steel in his spine and a fighting spirit in his soul. You can then go back to your hole.

  • smagar
    • smagar

      It’s one thing to attack the Pentagon. It’s another to blow up what is essentially a military prom.

      How heroic of Ayers’ group.

      How coincidental that a man who likes fellows like Bill Ayers also likes people like Elena Kagan. (Harvard Law: No Soldiers Allowed).

      Perhaps we can manage to bring THIS tidbit up for discussion a few times over the next few months.

  • http://www.scragged.com petrarch

    That’s the only plausibly effective line of attack. If the Rs can hammer home Kagan’s position that, in a time of war, she refused to support the highest-quality-possible officers for our military over a heated social debate that most Americans disagree with her on, I think you could make a very effective case to the American people that she disqualified herself from high office.

    Of course, it would require someone to actually go to the trouble of MAKING that case. Any possibility? DeMint? I can only assume that most ordinary Americans are not aware of the facts, as they’d probably find them revolting.

  • caboose

    is Kagan? In all the articles that I have read, not one has mentioned what regilion she is. Contrast that to previous recent nominees to the SCOTUS. There are no protestants on the court, even though they are by far the largest religion in the United States. It looks like protestants need not to apply to be members to the SCOTUS, and gutless protestant leaders are totally silent on the issue.

    • ciscoguy

      Anyone Obama picks is going to serve their liberal ideology first and foremost. Then, take your pick of however they might prioritize their religion and the Constitution. As a Catholic, I?d much prefer 9 atheist originalists than 9 activists of various religious backgrounds.

      • Richard Mullins

        What religion isn’t the question to ask, it more like her stedfastness to the constitution and to the law. Those seem to be points that Ms. Kagan is lacking and shouldn’t be confired for those reasons.

  • caboose

    Religion does matter to me and to other people, who are keenly aware that often Judges, in their activism, tend to vote their religion and ideology, rather than complying with the constitution. This is especially true with leftist liberals. So to those who care about this issue, do you know what religion Kagan is? Maybe this issue would not be so important, if the States, under the 10th Amendment would adopt a judicial review of all decisions by the fed and State courts and laws passed by Congress, to determine their Constitutionality.

    • BillM

      Means absolutely nothing. The staunchly Catholic justices Kennedy & Brennan hardly voted “their religion”.

      One of the worst travesties in the history of SCOTUS was the selection of Kennedy over Laurence SIlberman. The late Sens Helms & Thurmond were very leery of Kennedy (for very good reasons), but were also uncomfortable with Silberman being a secular Jew.

      When Kennedy met with each senator he supposedly wink-nudged his “strict Catholicism” to the point of self-parody. The gruff Silberman probably made no mention of religion, and likely would’ve told them MYOB if asked.

      OOPS!

  • BillM

    If Obama wanted to fight, he’d've nominated Diane Wood, the Bork/Scalia of the Left. Superheavyweight intellectual with a vast paper trail, a true believer who’s spent 15 years going toe to toe with Posner & Easterbrook and has even swayed them on occasion.

    As for diversity, she graduated from UTexas & UTexas Law, and has spent most of her professional career in Chicago. Everything Barry assures his skeptical base Kagan will do, Wood has been doing for decades. She’d be a Scalia-ish beacon for lib lawyers with a national platform, and she’s be very difficult to defeat in confirmation, as Snowe, Collins & Hatch almost certainly wouldn’t vote to FB her. And she’s not a raging loony like Koh or Karlan.

    Kagan is a flyweight compared to Wood or Garland. Huge opportunity lost for Obama to move the goalposts of judicial activism with the most eloquent advocate for it. Kagan will be a reliable lib vote, albeit slightly less so than Stevens, but will influence nothing & no one.

    This is a big win & clear signal on many levels and timeframes. Obama knows he’s peaked already, and his base will be rightly furious over this hack insider getting such an important job. Let’s rightly bang Kagan around on her inexperience, reticence and “racist” hiring while Dean of Harvard Law, but also sit back and enjoy the civil war ‘mongst the koskids.

    • PaladinLostHour

      “she?s be very difficult to defeat in confirmation, as Snowe, Collins & Hatch almost certainly wouldn?t vote to FB her.”

      Seriously doubt good ol’ Uncle Orrin, bosom pal of Ted Kennedy, is going to be the pushover this round he has previously on Dem Supreme Court picks. He’s up again in 2012, when the Tea Party will be peaking to unseat Obama – so if Hatch gives ‘em a reason, he’ll be Bob Bennetted and free to spend all his time writing those jingles he’s so proud to sing.

      • BillM

        ..as being “very difficult” to beat, had she been the nominee. I was confusing in my post above.

        Kagan, imo, will be IMPOSSIBLE to beat, although I hope she isn’t, as Obama might come to his senses and nominate Wood. There is almost no chance that Snowe or Collins will vote against Kagan’s confirmation, and they absolutely would never vote to filibuster her. Just a numbers game.

        You’re right though about my homeboy Borin’ Orrin. I’ll predict he votes against Kagan, but that he won’t support a filibuster.

  • fortcollins

    I challenge any Senator to ask Ms. Kagan the following questions, and to press for unequivocal answers:

    (1) Can justice exist apart from truth?
    (2) If not, does truth exist?
    (3) If truth exists, is it absolute or relative?
    (4) If absolute, what is its source?
    (5) If relative, to what is truth relative?
    (6) What is the standard by which you determine right from wrong?
    (7) If that standard is not based on absolute, external truth, does the standard even exist?
    (8) If truth is not external and immutable, then “facts” do not exist. If so, where is the basis for any court decision, any appeal, or the rule of law itself?

    Distilled to the simplest options, there are only two possible systems of justice. One is the rule of might. The other is the rule of law.

    A system of justice based on the rule of might prevails in many nations. This can take terrible form in totalitarian dictatorships, and equally unfair, although somewhat more benign form, where judges reflect majoritarian rule. In any such system, “the law” is fluid and a quest for ultimate truth is fundamentally unimportant. What replaces each is a need to preserve the power of the person or group in control. We easily see this type of system in the show trials of puppet courts in terrorist states. To a lesser degree, we also see it where judges are elected and may be tempted to “nudge” decisions to favor retention in office. To give a simple example, it matters little whether the traffic light was red or green. It matters only whether the regime or controlling authority needs it to be found a certain way to preserve the authority of the ruling order.

    A system of justice based on the rule of law places immense value on objective law and on immutable facts. Where the rule of law reigns, the same set of facts should produce the same result, regardless of the identity of the judge or of the parties before the court. Where the rule of law reigns, witnesses may attest to different beliefs as to the facts, but only one set of facts ultimately can be true. Continuing with the traffic light analogy, what ultimately matters is whether the traffic light was red or it was green. Since facts are absolute, and a light could not be both red and green, the outcome hinges on objective truth of that issue.

    Our nation is based on the rule of law. The Declaration of Independence itemized twenty-seven separate actions of George III that compelled separation from England. Over half of the complaints centered on England’s failure to apply the rule of law.

    The rule of law is fundamental to existence of a legal profession. If facts do not matter, then lawyers are unnecessary, independent judges are unnecessary, and appellate courts are unnecessary. If facts matter, then they must be both objective and ascertainable. This, in turn, requires lawyers to advocate, independent fact-finders to determine truth objectively, and appellate courts to determine law objectively.

    Reducing truth and ethics from objective reality to changeable opinion necessarily rejects the rule of law itself. If “facts” are subject to opinion or belief, they are no facts at all. If law serves individual interest, it is no law at all. Such a worldview negates existence of the law as profession, leaving one no better than the Emperor flaunting his imaginary clothes. What is at stake is not merely difference of opinion, but the death of truth.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    The premise is that one of the Republican senators on the judiciary committee has real courage.

    I’ve checked this premise and am prepared to be sorely disappointed.

    For Liberty,
    ColdWarrior, PC (that?s ?precinct committeeman,? not ?political child!?)
    Conservatives, UNITE! CHANGE the Republican Party and save the world by UNITING INSIDE the Party as precinct committeemen. NOW!

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