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Liberals, conservatives, values and how we perceive each other

Another day, another book I need to buy and hopefully read some day.  In the March 21st NYT, Nicholas Kristof reviews a new book:  ”The Righteous Mind”.  In it, author Jonathan Haidt discusses some original research that investigates some key values held by conservatives and liberals – and how these two groups perceive each other on these values.  I have long been interested in why Republicans and Democrats believe as they do, and this type of research on values zeroes in on this question.

A couple of key observations emerge.  First, the author points out how both conservatives and liberals adhere to values that are formed around a moral code, but conservatives follow some additional core values that liberals do not. Kristof phrases it as:

Americans speak about values in six languages, from care to sanctity. Conservatives speak all six, but liberals are fluent in only three. And some (me included) mostly use just one, care for victims.

Kristof summarizes the values:

…for liberals, morality is largely a matter of three values: caring for the weak, fairness and liberty. Conservatives share those concerns (although they think of fairness and liberty differently) and add three others: loyalty, respect for authority and sanctity.

In his research, Haidt and his colleagues refer to the latter three values as “binding values”, as they bind together people into larger groups.

These foundations are Ingroup/loyalty (supporting moral obligations of  patriotism and “us vs. them” thinking); Authority/respect (including concerns about social order and the importance of traditions and role-based duties in maintaining that order) and Purity/sanctity (including concerns about treating the body as a temple and living in a higher, more “divine” way, versus a baser, more carnal way).

These sound pretty familiar to a conservative. In fact, Haidt’s definition for the second category (authority/respect) sounds like a sound bite description of what conservatism is.

The second, more interesting observation from Haidt’s book and research is touched upon briefly by Kristof:

Moderates and conservatives were adept at guessing how liberals would answer questions. Liberals, especially those who described themselves as “very liberal,” were least able to put themselves in the minds of their adversaries and guess how conservatives would answer.

Much of Haidt’s research centered around the accuracy of stereotypes of “out groups” – i.e. how liberals see conservatives and vice versa.  The research showed that, by a significant margin, liberals were less accurate in their depiction of conservatives than the converse.  The ironic part of this comes when reading the comments on Kristof’s article – this liberal lack of other-awareness is illustrated over and over by the left-leaning commentariat…but what else would we expect from the NYT’s readers?

A summary from the original research:

Results indicate that people at all points on the political spectrum are at least intuitively aware of the actual differences in moral concerns between liberals and conservatives: they correctly predicted that liberals would care more than conservatives about the two individualizing foundations and that conservatives would care more than liberals about the three binding foundations. The results also confirm previous studies of partisan misperception (e.g. Chambers, et al., 2006) by showing that, in general, people overestimate how dramatically liberals and conservatives differ. Remarkably, people even morally stereotype their own ingroup, with liberals overestimating liberals’ strong individualizing concerns and underestimating liberals’ weak binding concerns, and conservatives exaggerating conservatives’ moral concerns in the opposite directions.

Our results go beyond previous studies, however, in finding and explaining an otherwise puzzling result: liberals were the least accurate. We presented three competing hypotheses about accuracy: 1) We found no support for the hypothesis that liberals would be most accurate; liberals were the least accurate about conservatives and about liberals. The largest inaccuracies were in liberals’ underestimations of conservatives’ Harm and Fairness concerns, and liberals further exaggerated the political differences by overestimating their own such concerns. 2) We found some support for the hypothesis that moderates would be most accurate, which they were in the case of the binding foundations. However, and most crucially, partisan inaccuracies were not mirror images of each other. On the contrary, liberals and conservatives both tended to exaggerate their binding foundation differences by underestimating the typical liberal and overestimating the typical conservative. 3) Finally, we found some support for the hypothesis that conservatives would be the most accurate, which they were in the case of the individualizing foundations. In line with Moral Foundations Theory, liberals dramatically underestimated the Harm and Fairness concerns of conservatives.

So why do we care?

Of course there’s the reassurance that we as conservatives can take from the fact that liberals are provably inaccurate in their stereotyping of conservatives’ moral positions.  But more important is the confirmation of the fact that conservatives do care about those issues that liberals claim we do not (not that we didn’t know that already…).

As I have mentioned previously on these pages, most, if not all of our policy positions originate largely from our beliefs about these core value issues.  In many respects, social conservatism maps into the other “legs” of the conservative stool.  Fiscal conservatism, defense conservatism, immigration policy, foreign policy, etc. – all stem from the values we hold in these categories.  The fact that liberals seem to be sorely lacking in the “binding values” may (probably, IMO) explain how their positions on many/most policy areas differ from ours.  One of the most contentious points made by Haidt is brought out by Kristof:

“Moral psychology can help to explain why the Democratic Party has had so much difficulty connecting with voters,” writes Haidt, a former liberal who says he became a centrist while writing the book.

Ouch.  The liberals commenting on Kristof’s article didn’t like that one a bit.  But it does explain a lot.  If one accepts the theory that America is a center-right nation, I would say there’s a pretty significant likelihood that the difference lies in this disconnect in these core values that are shared – and not shared – between liberals and conservatives.

Yes, we are all values voters.

COMMENTS

  • barleycorn

    That to me is the crucial difference between conservatives and Democrats.

    Conservatives who are not religious or even socially conservative tend to have a greater respect for the values that flow from the Bible than do most liberals..

    Liberals by and large view man as the ultimate arbiter and thus tend to see morality as being strictly how we treat each other, the lesser animals and of course Mother Earth (eye-roll).

    Liberals tend to see man as being accountable to man.

    Conservatives tend to see man as being accountable to a higher authority or standard.

    And then of course there are libertarians……

  • barleycorn

    I meant “conservatives and liberals” but really over the past 20 years “Republicans and Democrats” works just as well.

  • sbm1

    was his original university of virginia article “what makes people vote republican”.

    It so neatly explains why I and many conservatives have very little problem understanding the arguments of the left, and why so many on the left have no ability whatsoever to understand the motivations of our arguments and attribute all sorts of bad intentions to us.

    I do get mad when Beck, Rush or Hannity play the game fo the left though,a nd misrepresent arguments, or do too much sliding slope.

    I’m also really glad to see that another person from the left, saw the intrinsic truthiness of the right and moved to the center….

  • aesthete

    Conservatism and liberalism are poorly defined in the US, and group broad, various, unrelated ideologies with different moral or ethical underpinnings under their banner.

    Kristoff (a pants-wetting moralist), D Brooks (a prissy moderate cum armchair sociologist tendencies), Pat Buchanan (a rust belt populist), Reagan (a “three-legged conservative”), Peter Schiff (a wealthy libertarian), Ron Paul (a RON PAUL), and several others have all at some point self-identified as conservative. Having read writings from all of these gentlemen, I can say that anyone claiming to have a Grand Unified Theory of Conservative Morality is probably oversimplifying or overgeneralizing in a way that omits crucial information for the purposes of our understanding.

    Of course, this goes back to my inherent distrust of social sciences in general,which rely on imprecise languages to express themselves, and which generally rely on methodologies which laeve much to be desired. This tends to be particularly true in the field of psychology.

  • Juggernaut

    and in a perfect world conservatives would offer free services to everyone if the country would afford it but we’d provide conservative solutions. Liberals will give away anything despite cost and they see a perfect world, one where they make all the big decisions and use the media to take what they want. This is one of the reasons why liberals perceive us the wrong way, another is some just don’t care for facts and want to drive a narrative version to continue distrust while fomenting their base……..its a mean and dishonest strategy that drives some voters towards being independent or they become conservative.

    Conservatives care for people but we are logical, not creative so I disagree with an assertion to the contrary but creative people will stereotype without concern for actual facts. If our world credit standing wasn’t a factor and we could print unlimited cash tied to nothing then anything could be paid for but only if prices rose at a bracketed rate. Dems fail to recognize that raising tax rates will not pay for current and future entitlements so they create lies to influence opinion.

    Kristof is a centrist liberal and while he angered the leftists, its only because he sees the problems the left has created since Bush v. Gore and the party’s move to the hard left. The extremists and the Obamabots have driven new ideals that center around a more internationalist party ideals that any countries laws should be used in US courts while they also see themselves as nationalists vs conservatives who see themselves as federalists. I see a fight brewing where the Obama dems see a fight from the Clinton dems in the future. If Obama loses 2012 then the normal dems will fight off the Obama dems. If Obama wins, they could seat more far lefties in congress and build a power base deeper in the DC bureaucracy and in political offices. The media will help them along the way despite the people who are clueless and or trusting that all normal in DC. All the more reason for conservatives to build a media base and takeover jobs that liberals have manipulated against the core values of our country.

  • Tbone

    This results in their requirement to make everything morally relative to their feelings, not their beliefs.

    This, of course, makes their actions in any given situation hypocritical which is readily recognized by conservatives through the application of our existent, core moral values.

    Conversely, liberals, sans core values, are unable to even recognize their hypocrisy. Some gain these values as they mature or have a religious epiphany. Those who don’t are doomed to Hell. This is a good thing.

  • vangoghssister

    I’ve just purchased The Righteous Mind for my Kindle. I have long wondered why liberals and conservatives are so fundamentally different. If one were able to have an honest conversation with the kind of Democrat who votes straight party because it’s what they’ve always done (and their parents and their parents before them). would you be able to at least leave them wondering why they’ve voted for the people who support the progressive policies we have in place today? I’m not talking about the Barak Obama and Nancy Pelosi type of liberal/Democrat, just the average Joe who lives next door or works in the cube next to you. The true progressive will never have their mind changed any more than the true conservative. There’s a reason you rarely, if ever, hear of a conservative switching to the liberal point of view.

  • sbm1

    I just read through a lot of the comments on the NYT site….and they show the complete inability of many on the left to fathom any justification for the thinking on our side, other than the cartoonish caricature they have of conservatism.

    Mentions of inherent racism, fear as our motivation, lack of empathy….

    but specifically this empathy is what we are better at, understanding the motivations behind another viewpoint.

    Maybe we have the benefit of being confronted with the liberal assumptions every day in popular media, and academia and all around us…so we hear it, and we have to come to terms with its existence.

    The left are deathly afraid of turning on fox (other than to “monitor” it), while many on our side have no problem turning on NPR or MSNBC…we get upset at how they portray us, but we don’t necessary hate all the intentions behind their political idealogy.

    Most of us don’t like to see an established underclasss with little social mobility. We are just convinced that throwing money at the problem through the government won’t sove it.

    In the comments there are people who say that left to private charity we would miss all the cases of true hardship….as if government has ever solved them all….it is just that personal attention in general gets better results than bureaucracy….

    Government programs establish entitlements,a nd these are written in legalese….it is similar to algorithms as opposed ot human intelligence in all its facets. Algorithms do a decent job at google in search, but even with all the geniuses there in advertising it is laughable…..a company that I mention negatively in an email is featured prominently in ads to mo for the next 5 weeks…that is bureaucracy…itune genius never recommends songs or albums that I actually want to buy…but guys at a record store did all the time (although amazon does pretty good with their book preference algorithmys)

  • barleycorn

    Spot on the money.

  • Seedyrom

    that’s what it boils down too. The godless souls of liberalism care not for anything moral unless it benefits them while they celebrate the worst of society and live in sin. Secular is worse than they care to admit while the religious left hides its opinions in fear they will lose power and face ridicule. Marxism is evil, Marx celebrated evil, the media study Marx in college.

  • lineholder

    Interesting study with interesting results. Something very simple that I see in it is that because Conservatives DO speak all six of these “languages”, we are by nature of it more open-minded and broad-minded than Liberals tend to be. I think this probably explains why we are more inclined to consider factors that Liberals are not the least bit inclined to consider, and why we often peruse different ideas of how various problems could be resolved rather than be trapped in a small realm of thought.

    A bit daunting in some ways, because after having dealt with people who are inclined to be narrow-minded or closed-minded in everyday real-life scenarios, I know that you can try to share ideas with them until you’re blue in the face, and they’ll be convinced with every breath in them that you are wrong, wrong, WRONG.

    About the only way to get it through to them that there are other options is to show them and prove it to them.

    If that what it is going to take to break the Liberal strangle-hold over our society, then Conservatives have much work yet to do, don’t we?

  • desertphreak

    Or, running on your emotions vs. critical thinking. It’s been my experience critical thinking skills will always destroy a liberal’s world views.

  • sarg01

    … we just don’t necessarily agree the government should be enforcing them where they do not conflict with the rights of others.

    It’s perfectly OK to think less of people for being liars and/or cheats. It’s not OK for the government to try to arbitrate what types of lies and/or cheats are acceptable and which are not.

  • sarg01

    Someone the editorial boards of the New York Times, Washington Post and CNN disapproves of.

  • renl57

    The book that Kristof cites may be confusing liberals and libertarians.

    With each passing decade, it’s less and less clear that modern liberals care about the liberty of anyone but themselves. Speech codes, political correctness, the heckling and even assaults on public figures who disagree with liberalism, the list goes on.

  • gsatt

    he regularly stoops to the lefts level of debating. Its embarrassing. I feel bad that he lets himself do it. Beck got weird and religious at some point. Ive never heard beck on the radio though. Limbaugh……. is just too mainstream to talk the way he wants too. He would be much more entertaining if he was “flying under the radar” like Boortz.

    And props to this review, it clarifies some things. It makes it perfectly clear why I could never seem to make my point understood with the other side. They just don’t think beyond a certain point, have no interest, ***and don’t realize that there may be more to understand*** . Its like explaining to a 4 year old why they cant have everything they want.

  • kowalski

    Empathy is almost a religion among liberals and I’m surprised Kristof didn’t cram it in there.

    There’s nothing wrong with empathy as most people have it. Liberals want to institutionalize it, though, and that’s not in anyone’s best interest. The more empathy the better, you can never have enough! We’ll love you to death!

    (Last sentence were actual words from a grad student I used to know.)

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    The difference between the left and the right can mostly come down to one word. Emotionalism.

    When I speak to lefties (and I unfortunately speak to quite a few in my profession). Everything, and I mean every damn thing comes down to how they feel about something.

    They can on the drop of a hat start tearing up and crying when they think of some politician they like like JFK or Obama, Or, in a flash they can be filled with hatred and anger at the mere mention of someone they don’t like such as G W Bush, or Rush Limbaugh.

    But when you try to pin them down on exactly the sort of policies they like and why they are often confused. Sometimes even wrongly identifying Republican policies with Democrat ones.

    And I don’t think I am being simplistic. I would say even many left wing “leaders” and politicians are the same way. They are shallow, their knowledge is minimal, and they are ruled by emotionalism.

  • californiasquish

    “The results also confirm previous studies of partisan misperception (e.g. Chambers, et al., 2006) by showing that, in general, people overestimate how dramatically liberals and conservatives differ. ”

    As someone with no party affiliation and has never voted along party lines, it’s nice to hear that we collectively have more in common than not.

    Really interesting article, I’m gonna check the book out.

  • CharleyK

    The story of the ant and the grasshopper is the story of a conservative and a liberal.

    The ant works and plans for the long run. The grasshopper thinks only of today.

    …Liberals help the takers today by stealing from the makers. So over the long run, there’s less incentive to work and less stuff to go around.

    …Conservatives help the takers by encouraging them to become makers. So over the long run, there’s more incentive to work and more stuff to go around.

    …Liberals give “free” health care to all. Soon, there are fewer drugs and services to go around. So liberals ration care in favor of broccoli-eaters because “the rest of us are paying” for the hamburger-and-milkshake eaters.

    …Conservatives encourage free choice among private providers so over the long run more health care options are available to all.

    …Liberals love to regulate, because in the short run they feel better by forcing “selfish” people to do “good” things.

    …Conservatives fear regulators, because they know that more regulations will make life worse over the mid- to long-term. (Years ago, a conservative congressman told me that bureaucrats are like cockroaches. It’s not what they eat that causes problems, it’s what they fall into and mess up.)

    Charley

  • davidsongirl

    Dr. Tim Daughtry and Dr. Gary Cassleman have just released a new book called Waking the Sleeping Giant: How Mainstream Americans can beat Liberals at their own game. Tim ‘s and Gary’s presentation on the psychology of politics and how to win arguments with liberals has been very popular across NC. They deal with this very issue – what makes liberals and conservatives think they way they do , and how we can use this to take back our country. The information is very practical and helpful.

    You can find the book at Amazon, and find Tim & Gary at Concord Bridge Consulting. I highly recommend them.. I’ve used their tactics and the liberals just sputter.

  • davidsongirl

    explain why they believe as they do. I have family members who are professed liberals, but they share my fundamental views.

  • sadams

    I am sure it makes posters here feel good to learn that liberals are emotional and closed minded, while conservatives are open minded and analytical. Unlike some of the posters here, my personal experience in life does not bear this generalization out. I have found stunningly closed-minded people at both ends of the political spectrum, and if anyone here thinks leftists have a monopoly on blind emotionalism in the political arena, I would be happy to introduce them to my brother in law. And, for purposes of full disclosure, I share aesthete’s aversion to the social sciences.

  • Bill S

    I b.elieve you’ll find that their research found precisely what you’re saying…that there are close-minded people at both ends. The interesting finding was that liberals over-exaggerated their stereotypes of conservatives much more than conservatives did in the other direction.

  • Common_Cents

    their politics are nearly completely separate from their lives. They do not walk their talk. It’s fun to point that out to them and watch their heads explode!

  • Common_Cents

    especially to women and independents. Not sacrificing conservatism but rather marketing it with an emotional pizzazz.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    But when some groups do show enthusiasm, such as the Tea parties, or even the Paulies, they often get put down by others in the GOP

  • lapert

    I find it interesting that there is no discussion of what implications selection bias among the participant group has for the findings. It clearly isn’t a representative sample (over representation of woman, under-representation of conservatives) and I would wonder what hypothesis they have as for how that impacts the results.

  • lastgopinillinois

    End government funding of all the things that should be funded locally.
    Especially education (liberal indoctrination) and radio, television and cable/internet. (liberal media) might not be so liberal when they have to rely solely on the private sector.

  • obxdiver

    “The essence of a man like me lies not in what I feel, but in what I think.” -Albert Einstein

  • obxdiver

    Reading through the comments on the NYT site I came across the gem below. It absolutely astounded me that anyone could be either this clueless or in such denial. Amazing, simply amazing…

    ” ‘ ?Moral psychology can help to explain why the Democratic Party has had so much difficulty connecting with voters,? writes Haidt, a former liberal who says he became a centrist while writing the book.’

    Really, Mr. Kristof. The Democratic Party IS a centrist party. A centrist right one too. There are no left wing or liberal parties in America.”

  • http://www.gosmllbiz.com byhisgrace

    This is fascinating and helps explain a lot…how can they think that way??? often crosses through my mind…this puts what we know to be true in a very understandable fashion.

  • http://www.gosmllbiz.com byhisgrace

    Not in all cases re tossing in Republicans with the Democrats…some. not all, and even the most? still have some morals somewhere in their being.

  • obxdiver

    Both my grandparents and parents, along with a significant portion of my extended family, are all devout Christians and lead lives that could be a model for conservative values. Ask them to explain their beliefs without reference to politics and what they say precisely mirrors conservative philosophy. However, ask them how they plan to vote and it’s straight Democratic ticket, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

    There have been instances in the past where I’ve explained the positions of a conservative candidate to them, and they have agreed completely with those positions. Yet, they refuse to vote for that candidate simply because there is an “(R)” after his name.

    The only rationale they can offer is “Republicans only care about the rich, and we’re not rich.” Ask them to provide anything beyond anecdotal evidence to support this and they can’t do it.

    I’ve tried and tried to open their eyes to no avail. The only explanation I can come up with is that they are elderly Southerners and the disdain for the “Party of Lincoln” lives on to this day.

  • davesinsanantonio

    How simple, but how true. I never realized that talking to liberals is so much like talking to a four year old. That explains so much. Thank you.

  • Bill S

    .

  • hart65

    to see a huge difference between liberals and conservatives. I’m paraphrasing the late Sydney Harris:

    Economics without morality is exploitation;
    morality without economics is Greece.

    If the next election perpetuates liberal values and bankrupts the nation, Mr. Kristof’s next book title might start with “The Rise and Fall…”

  • Seedyrom

    freely showing the nutty uneducated rants as well as the half wits, lies and a few honest ones. Giving the other side room to speak amplifies how wrong the left is. Hannity isn’t stooping he’s just being courteous and yes some of them are annoying as heck. I do enjoy Bret Bair and O’Reilly more but miss Brit Hume at 6pm.

    The good news is more libs watch FOX than MSNBC at many times of the day so some of them cross over and become conservatives and republicans after they wake up and see the world in color. Its a painful ride for them either way and us too at times.

  • justperhaps45

    NO is an extreme and often inaccurate term. I think we all have values but some choose bed rock, some choose gravel, some sand and others hang from a kite in the wind. The nature of support differs but support in some form always seems to exist. All sides seem to share the failure to recognize that we tend to fix ourselves in a comfort zone and appear rigid from the outside. Actually we fear what we don’t think we know or understand.

    It is importand to undestand some of the other person’s comfort shell so if we desire to effect change we can ask what I call the, “Killer question.” Not to destroy but to iniate thought leading to a change in understanding.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    My friend in Italy says our candidates are all very far to the right of any of theirs.

  • justperhaps45

    My reply to your relations would be that: One should never vote for a politician who is for something they don’t want to be. An elected official will always act to increase their power base. If they are for the poor. More poor is the goal. Followed closely by the need to appear to be helping without actually changing the balance. I want, every day, to be less poor and more secure. The rationals for voting are more complex than rich vs poor but the power base premise is solid.

  • Common_Cents

    We need to be much better about selling the BENEFITS of conservatism, not the features or some intellectual reasoning. Especially important to new voters, young voters, and independents.

  • http://www.periodictablet.com superamerican

    I believe that the crux is power, and how to gain and retain it. Especially with the Left, again in my view from the RIght. Power is the essence of what the Left wants. Why? To take decision-making from those the Left sees as being unable or illequiped to make “good” decisions (according to the metric of the Left). The Left deeply believes that democracy — the Rule of The People — is flawed as is its cousin, Free-Enterprise, commerce of The People. The Left sees people as immoral, especially the successful; it sees success as binary: if one achieves, it is by taking from another. The Left cannot or will not admit that economic success does in fact “trickle down” – to steal a phrase. And all evidence proves it does. But it does not trickle down equally, only the fantasy utopia of the Left can achieve such a miracle.

  • UpLateAgain

    …is Thomas Sowell’s ‘A Conflict of Visions’. In it, he discusses the history of both liberal and conservative thinking, how each has developed, and where each comes from.

    Fundamentally, they begin with diametrically opposed starting points of reference and develop from there.

    Liberals believe man can improve; that he is perfectible. And that in order for man to improve, he must strive for that perfection even that perfection is not in actuality reachable. In effect, they are idealists.

    Conservatives start from the position of also believing man is imperfect, and can improve…. but that it is more important to take his imperfection into account and act responsibly to account for it. They are realists.

    Sowell, as always, is superb at conveying his thesis. His understanding of the differences, the reasons for them, and the value of each provides great insight. Though an ardent conservative, he takes an extremely neutral position in writing this book. It’s not an advocacy. It’s an explanation.

  • tomtambien24

    Do I sense the presense of the late James Q Wilson and his thesis of a “moral sense” in all cultures?

  • johninohio

    I would say it differently:

    Liberals believe man behaves imperfectly, but he is perfectible. And that in order for man to become perfect, he must be lead–and those who can’t or won’t be led must be driven. In effect, they are idealistic totalitarians.

    Conservatives start from the position of also believing man is imperfect, and can improve but is not perfectible… that it is more important to take his imperfection into account and act responsibly to account for it. They are realists and the true Liberals (in the classic sense).

  • godschosen

    That’s Money, Dude!!!!

  • godschosen

    ….someone who has intellectual AND Moral Integrity, ….and respects the rights of others who don’t, but doesn’t wish to continue to be co-dependent with them……….

  • Bill S

    I have that book, but it sunk down in my “to-read” pile. Dr. Tom is excellent.

  • gsatt

    Getting hyped up and repeating the same vague argument is the game of the left. We want Dirty air, dirty water, ect ect is entertaining the first several times of use, but you can’t use it in every argument.

    I don’t know If I’m doing a good job conveying what I’m griping about, but it didn’t occur to me until a year or so after I started paying attention to politics and listening to a wider variety of people besides rush and hannity. Thank god for podcasts streaming radio, and the internet, because you just can’t get it all on your local station or TV.

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