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“It’s pretty clear Governor Romney is going to be the nominee.”

...says Newt.

Yesterday, Governor Romney swept all five primaries, including Delaware, which was Newt Gingrich’s last best hope for continuing his campaign – and in Delaware, he got stomped.  Today, Gingrich announced that he is ending his campaign for the Presidential nomination.

In his announcement, Newt had some pretty interesting things to say – things that we all should be paying close attention to.  From the CBS News report:

“I think you have to at some point be honest with what’s happening in the real world, as opposed to what you’d like to have happened,” Gingrich said. “Governor Romney had a very good day yesterday. He got 67 [percent] in one state, and he got 63 in other, 62 in another. Now you have to give him some credit. I mean this guy’s worked six years, put together a big machine, and has put together a serious campaign.

“I think obviously that I would be a better candidate, but the objective fact is the voters didn’t think that,” Gingrich said. “And I also think it’s very, very important that we be unified.”

(bold is mine)  As has been written here on these pages several times, the voters are the ones who chose Governor Romney.  He is going to be our nominee.  And as Newt says, it IS very important (now that the primaries have indicated our choice) that we are – or become – unified.

This has been a pretty nasty GOP primary season.  There are a lot of us (myself included) who don’t particularly like Mitt Romney as a candidate.  But our candidate he is.  We can lament what might have been and we can fret a bit about what kind of president Mitt might be.  But in the end the mission is now to focus all of our efforts on defeating Barack Obama by supporting Mitt Romney as our nominee.  And it’s not just the “us” here at Redstate and in the trenches of the electorate…it’s also the other former candidates:  Perry, Cain, Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman -  and Gingrich.  The GOP must now line up behind Romney.

But that doesn’t mean we don’t push Romney to adhere as closely as possible to conservative principles.  He doesn’t just get a pass.  Daniel made a good point earlier in his diary “Romney Must Coalesce Around Conservatives…”  He’s making the case to us, not the other way around.  Let’s keep the pressure on…but remember who the real target is, now that the primaries are pretty much over.

From here on out, I support Mitt Romney for President.

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  • williadm

    Romney is a turd, but not as big of a turd as Obama. Period. That’s all anyone needs to know.

  • Ender

    said that about whatever pet candidate you had. Did you have to lay this turd here?

  • rabun1016

    Newt is a great politician but to me was a fatally flawed candidate. I think he now needs to run Romney’s campaign.

    Romney, typical business guy, is not intransigent about issues. No good businessman is. Change happens too quickly and if you are wedded to a particular approach, in love with your own product, and don’t consider those outside your circle, you usually fail big. There is no successful business guy I know who at 65 is also a skilled retail politician. You have to be ultra flexible to succeed in business. But, flexibility is considered a liability in politics and a mortal sin so some.

    And I will agree Romney is worse than most – tin ear etc which in my mind is due to a lack of bar-time and trading barbs with Irishmen on risk on tire tracks being found on your face. But, you meet no one who has dealt with him in business (on the deal level) who does not regard him as ethical and very skilled.

    I would love to see Newt run Romney’s campaign versus his guy Stu Stevens, perhaps the only person whose ego rivals Newt’s. If Stevens were doing a good job, Romney – a straight arrow – would not have the negatives he does. If Newt is able to contribute to strategy, it will make a huge difference in my judgment.

  • avgjo

    Go back and read through God-knows-how-many threads here, where people insulted each other’s candidate. That’s why the signifier ‘X-bot’ (where X is your candidate of choice) became so common here.

  • codenametimna

    The Romney campaign is now shifting to the center and it was inevitable, albeit, disheartening to say the least. Since he now realizes he’ll be the nominee, he’s decided to focus on Independents and moderate Republicans and indeed Reagan Democrats, in order to maximize his overall vote count in November. Romney campaigned as a conservative but now that he has the nomination sealed, he’s now campaigning as a moderate for political expediency purposes needless to say.

    Conservatives are just one segment within the Republican Party and Independents seem swayed more by “practicality” as opposed to conservative principles. In other words, supporting a candidate based on commonality, rather than on social or moral issues. The economy is the number one issue facing the American people. Therefore Mitt Romney’s number one goal is to focus on the economy and on Obama’s failed presidency, in order to maximize his chances of winning in November.

    It is now becoming very apparent he’s decided to put social issues on the back burner until after the election. Even as evidenced by his campaign now shifting to the center as we head toward the convention and the election in November.

    The main concern I have is if Romney gets elected president, he may decide to forsake all of the conservative talking points and promises he made to the American people on the campaign trail… before he knew he would be the nominee. Now that he’s got the nomination basically sealed, he’s doing what is politically expedient in order to win the White House. Where have we heard that before?? Which lends credence to the notion: he’s a typical politician.

    That is the same method which Barack Obama used to win the White House in 2008. In other words, say and/or do anything necessary to win an election. Hopefully Romney will keep everything above board, unlike Obama did.

    Kowtowing to everybody and his uncle just to get elected smacks of impropriety and is disingenuous. If Romney ends up going down the same path Obama did (and no doubt Obama will do again in 2012), he deserves to lose in November if you ask me. He needs to stand on principle and not become weak-kneed in the face of opposition.

    Standing on principle and keeping your promises seems to be unimaginably hard for the majority of politicians seeking public office. That’s why Ronald Wilson Reagan is still cherished and revered till this very day. His resolute moral character and his determination to do what was best for the country and the American people made him a leader extraordinaire. He didn’t back down and he didn’t veer Left simply to appease his political opponents or win brownie points. Mitt Romney, on the other hand, has a well known tendency to “appease” people and not to stand on his convictions when pressured from the outside or simply for convenience sake. Like the Ohio ballot measure incident where Romney refused to take a “public” stance on the issue even though his website supported the initiative. Spinelessness comes to mind and it doesn’t bode well for Romney if he ends up winning the presidency and then tacks hard LEFT for political gain or personal reasons.

    If Romney becomes President and he veers hard LEFT, there could very well be a revolt within the Republican Party and the result may end up decimating the Republican Party for generations to come, as millions of Republicans end up forsaking the Party that “forgot them” and could end up becoming Independents or Libertarians or having no Party affiliation at all; if indeed Romney governs the country as a liberal, after campaigning as a “severe” conservative on the campaign trail.

    You have to remember that Romney actually governed as a liberal as Governor of Massachusetts and he only veered Right (at least in words anyway) when he decided to run for president for the first time in 2007. Hopefully he will be a man of his word (the words he spoke on the campaign trail trying to convince the American people he’s really a conservative) once he’s in office. Time will tell.

  • unclefred

    by winning a working majority in the Senate (say at least 55 seats) and holding or increasing our house majority. Preferably increasing the number of conservatives in the process.

    Romney is not an ideological conservative, but he is a Republican who believes in reducing the size of government and its regulatory footprint. Give him a Republican controlled legislature and he’ll do fine. The more conservatives we can get in the congress the more conservative will be Romney’s governance.

    If we have problems with Romney as president, we’ll have to hold his feet to the fire. At this point our sole concern must be to get him elected. ABO baby ABO.

  • Cheetah772

    Romney may be our nominee, but I will not do more than what is required of me — to pull a lever in favor of Romney at the voting booth.

    As matter of fact, as an evengelical voter, 2012 will prove to be one of most uninspiring electoral years for me. I’m not so terribly excited about Romney as our Republican nominee, and let’s be honest here, I’m a bit uneasy about what he will or won’t do if he is elected president.

    From this point on forward, I will turn my energies into focusing on local races and some important congressional races at national level. I feel it’s more important to elect a slate of conservative politicians to Congress just in case if Romney as a newly elected president prove to be a great disappointment, or if Obama wins the re-election bid.

    However, I do wish the best of luck to Romney and his supporters in winning the contest with Obama. They will need every bit of it. And yes, I do acknolwedge Romney is now our Republican nominee, and we should stand unified behind him. Romney’s victory notwithstanding, it is important to hold him accountable for his actions, and do more in electing a large number of conservatives to Congress.

    That’s all I will say on this subject.

  • tea4me

    Like 4 years ago…I will hold my nose and vote for him. As long as he doesn’t stick his middle finger out at us all and pick some lefty RINO like Christy as his running mate.
    What I won’t do…is contribute financially to his campaign, as I did many times to McCain’s last time. Only to have him spit on us all in the end. I can’t even look at that SOB on TV any more. I turn it off as soon as I hear he’s coming on.
    Romney actually gave a very good speech yesterday. Still…I just don’t trust him. Just have to hope for the best.

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  • scook84

    Again.. No one to articulate conservative values. Conservatism is pushed a little more into “extreme” territory. With no one to speak up for conservatism, it dies a little more. The TEA party candidates voted in in 2010 have been nullified. Elsewhere on this site someone asks the question “Can republicans hold the house?”

    The disconnect between choices and results continue. “Moderation is the new norm” and we are going a little further down that slippery slope. This is it.. This is our choice: “He may be a turd, but he’s our turd”.

    I will continue to fight for the house and senate. It is already clear to me no matter who wins the election, we’ve already lost the presidency.

    I think Barry Goldwater said it best: “Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”

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    NO MITT, NO HOW, NO WAY

  • acat

    Nobody’s going to force you to say nice things about Romney. You have the alternate choice of saying nothing at all.

    Conservatives couldn’t get it together early enough to defeat Romney… just like we couldn’t get it together early enough to defeat McCain, or Bush 2.0, or Dole…. so here we are.

    Mew

  • scook84

    My feline friend.. I seem to recall several conservative candidates that, combined, out-voted Romney easily.

    This is the way it is done. One moderate against several conservatives. Its a good game. The moderate comes out the winner with less than 50% of the votes. Eventually the choices thin out but by then the “Moderate” has the “appearance” of being the front-runner. He has more delegates and more votes.

    Listening to Romney’s speech I can almost hear “The soft bigotry of low expectations” mindset. (I think Karl Rove is back in business).

    How I feel about Romney is irrelevant. It’s the fact that we do not really have anyone to articulate conservative ideas. Our choice seems to be someone who has no convictions and would just as soon feed us to the sharks as opposed to someone who would feed us to piranhas. Ultimately it doesn’t matter if we are dead in one gulp or hundreds of small bites. We are still dead.

    I mean no disrespect. I just can’t see playing this game any further, especially given the stakes involved: The minimization and death of conservatism.

    Be bold. Be firm. Be certain. Accept nothing less from those who seek to represent you.

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    NO MITT, NO HOW, NO WAY

  • acat

    For the White House? Romney’s it.

    Either get behind and push or shut up. Those are your options.

    Mew

  • scook84

    Sad to say. That sounds exactly like something Obama would say.

    Which illustrates my point exactly. Not to worry. I will say nothing more.

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    NO MITT, NO HOW, NO WAY

  • aesthete
  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Change your signature or I close your account.

    Your call.

  • veritaseequitas

    was not my choice and I did not vote for him in the SC primary. He is now “ours” and we need to get behind him 100% in order to defeat Obama.
    He is looking and sounding like much less of a bobblehead and I am sure he will only gain in stature as the general commences. I believe he can beat Baracka as long as he does not descend into the b.s. issues like dogs and women who choose to stay at home to raise their children and all the other little distractions that the left will continue to sling.
    I watched him last night as he won the slew of primaries and I was impressed with what I saw. He is not perfect and if he wins in November it will still be a battle.
    Hopefully, Baracka will continue his hatefulness towards the American people and show Romney to be the better man to lead America out of the wilderness.

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    take your ball and go home? While Romney may not be the articulator of all things conservative that many of us wanted, an unfettered second term Obama will drive a stake through the heart of this country. Romney is the nominee, and you have one chance in November to prevent Obama’s re-election, or you can sit at home with your integrity and principles. Just don’t come crying to the rest of us who got out and worked.

    Further, I’m a little tired of those who depend on somebody else to articulate conservatism. There are plenty of groups who are doing just that (American Majority, Heritage Action, etc.). If you’re not already volunteering with them, why don’t you give it a try?

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    because we have a job to do, getting rid of the single biggest horror our nation has faced since WW2.

  • acat

    prepare to do it ourselves?

    I think I like that a little more than the “There’s no cavalry coming, we’d best save ourselves”… but the meaning is the same.

    Mew

  • tnguy

    to the right sentiment. Pushing liberal republicans we continue to vote for has won us a $15 trillion debt and a slew of other goodies.

    Obviously, this strategy has worked so well the last few decades, why not continue?

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    I’m tired of whiners. Looking for doers. I watched The Iron Lady last weekend which I hated, but I did come away with a couple of wonderful quotes from PM Thatcher which pretty much says it all.

    ?What? What am I ?bound to be feeling?? People don?t think anymore. They feel. ?How are you feeling? No, I don?t feel comfortable. I?m sorry, we as a group we?re feeling?.? One of the great problems of our age is that we are governed by people who care more about feelings than they do about thoughts and ideas. Thoughts and ideas. That interests me. Ask me what I?m thinking.?

    ?What I do think is a man should be encouraged to stand on his own two feet. Yes, we help people. Of course we help people, but for those who can do, they must just get up and do. And if something?s wrong, they shouldn?t just whine about it. They should get in there and do something about it. Change things.?

    “Watch your thoughts for they become words. Watch your words for they become actions. Watch your actions for they become…habits. Watch your habits, for they become your character. And watch your character, for it becomes your destiny! What we think we become. My father always said that… and I think I am fine.”

  • lcdrscottcoleman

    and I’m just not sure if I can sacrifice them this time around like I did in ’08, regardless of the outcome..

  • Bill S

    (Oh, and in case you need a reminder: Romney’s the candidate)

  • jakeofalltrades

    since it doesn’t appear to have been changed voluntarily.

  • chaote

    Its sad that a throw away that lost to Mcain in 2008 is the new hope.Looks like conservatives lose again

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I can change it to whatever I want.

  • chaote

    The last conservative has left the field. The Tea Party has failed to nominate areal conservative-only merely forced someone to puppet conservative ideals.

  • Risky

    is probably to gripe all the way to the election and then if Mitt wins announce that’s it’s the end of the world regardless of anything he does* and otherwise blame him for Obama winning.

    *(possibly short of nominating Rick Santorum for the next SCOTUS vacancy)

  • jakeofalltrades

    since defeating Obama could not possibly be spun as anything but a victory, not just for conservatives, but for every human being in this world.

  • jakeofalltrades

    I still have fond memories of Giga-Pudding.

  • Kyle-MI

    Or have Obama sacrifice them after he is reelected. Although, truth be told, I don’t think voting for Romney is really sacrificing your principles. Just remember perfect is the enemy of good.

  • Kyle-MI

    You can tell us all, “I told you so” after Romney is elected and governing. Or just maybe I will be telling you.

  • General_Confusion

    John Boehner and Mitch McConnell have sided with explosive government debt and growth every chance they have been given.

    I?m not sure Romney changes that equation.

    Slightly attenuating the rate of growth of the debt and government still leads to financial disaster.

    Come to think of it, everybody loses.

    Yes Mitt is better than Obama but ?go along, get along? will still get us to where Obama wanted us, just a little slower.

  • renl57

    …and then lost the election in a landslide.

    Often, the times make the man.

    Yes, Reagan stuck to his principles for the most part. But his first two tries for the Presidency–in 1968 and 1976–both ended in failure.

    In 1980, it was only because the Carter Administration was a total flop that Reagan managed to win. Had Carter been a halfway successful president, Reagan would never have been elected. He would never have gotten a fourth chance.

    And the GOP Platform of 1980–the one Reagan ran on–took a more moderate stance on Medicare than Rep. Ryan’s proposals.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    .

  • acat

    May I suggest you pay a visit, wallet open, to DeMint’s PAC?

    Mew

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Get off your tail and get to work. Nobody’s asking for your life or your sacred honor, but some of your time and fortune would help.

  • Bill S

    .

  • Bill S

    Economic issues notwithstanding, the best hope we have for propagating conservative values is the SCOTUS. The odds of Barack Obama nominating even a marginal conservative to the bench are somewhere south of zero. We have a pretty good chance with Romney, even if conservatives have to pull a GWB-Miers.

    A GOP president can affect national law, policy and values for decades by a simple court nomination. That is THE most important aspect of supporting and electing Mitt Romney.

  • jakeofalltrades

    that when we get to $99,999,999,999,999.99 in debt, that debt clock rolls over and we start over at zero. Because they sure seem to be racing toward that number as fast as they can.

    In your metaphor, it’s as if they believe if they go fast enough, they can fly right over the cliff and land safely on the other side.

  • weta2011

    I was very angry with Romney in January and would have had a real hard time voting for him even in February, but in the end I have to get real. Romney earned his victory it certainly wasn’t given to him. It really doesn’t matter what I think about his flaws or shortcomings what matters is that he is representing the Republican party in November. I can live with him. In fact there are times when I think, “darn this guy might even be good!” One thing he demonstrated is that he is not afraid to go for the jugular. He did it to my guy and he did it to Santorum. If he does it to Obama it will have been worth it. I guess I am on board (and more enthusiastically than I would have suspected).

  • littlehouse18

    And wrote a note that he could expect more when I see more conservatism from his campaign. Probably won’t help, but it was all I could think of.

    I noticed that Santorum got 18% of the vote in PA (2nd place)despite being out. I had felt that if he were to get more than 10% it would say something significant. I have heard from voters there that they and others they met were voting Santorum to send a message. I hope Mitt hears it.

  • checkmate2012

    I would just like to add that no matter who the eventual nominee was, now clearly Romney, the task of un-doing all the Obama damage will be humongous. No Republican president can be expected to fix this disaster in a year or two, or even one term; it will take years.

    So I will keep that in mind as he faulters along the way in the conservative minds of many, but will take comfort in the fact that his heart is in the right place.

    It will be a long tumoltuous road, especially if we don’t keep the House and win the Senate. I’m not expecting miracles but a reversal for now and hopefully full steam ahead in a second term.

  • checkmate2012

    I haven’t sent his campaign money yet but have written suggestions to his mr.com website on what topics speak to conservatives and where he should put his focus. The more the better.

  • zachv

    Yesterday. First time I’ve contributed in this endless campaign. Didn’t think to include a note.

  • rabun1016

    nt

  • tnguy

    I won’t be sending him a cent. Red or any other color. My donations will be reserved for conservative congressional candidates. That’s where my attention will mostly be, since the White House is now a lost cause.

  • snowshooze

    What a wonderful strategy it is.

  • Filibuster Keaton

    At least in ’08, there was Palin to sweeten the deal. I suppose it’s possible Romney could pick a Conservative running mate, but I’m not sure why he would.

  • lcdrscottcoleman

    But he can not ‘sacrifice’ my principles. That choice will be my own.. and yes, voting for the ‘lesser of two evils’ is still a vote for ‘evil’

  • Kyle-MI

    Voting for Romney over Obama is a step in the right direction. It will not get us immediately to our destination, but it will start us on our way.

  • lcdrscottcoleman

    I’m still concerned about the long-term effects, though.

  • Ender

    nt

  • powertothepeople

    to claim he is favoring forgiving student loans and claiming that he favors forgiving all 1 trillion in student loans when he does not and the petition trying to be signed has not included the forgiveness of all student loans.

    Romney wants to extend the 3.4 interest rate on student loans which is a far cry from forgiveness. But even if you want to claim he supports loan forgiveness, it would only apply to those who:

    H.R. 4170 would forgive student loan debt for those who have paid 10 percent of their discretionary income toward their loans for 10 years and would cap interest on federal student loans at the current rate of 3.4 percent,”

    I do not agree with any forgiveness, but keeping interest rates at 3.4 is not forgiveness. I just do not see much of a problem with capping the interest rate.

  • hls87

    Mitt may listen to Robert Bork’s advice, but he is very unlikely to follow it. He’s a progressive and we know from a century of experience how progressive Republicans behave in power. Mitt won’t nominate a good Supreme Court Justice, unless he does so by mistake. He’ll gravitate toward nominees who share the conventional views of the progressive legal establishment.

    If your best argument for rallying around Mitt is the Supreme Court, you have no argument at all.

  • Bill S

    The argument for SCOTUS is the strongest we have for ANY Republican.

    I know that Obama will nominate leftists. He already has a track record. You are providing pure conjecture on Romney. The odds are strongly in his favor. You are simply projecting.

    BTW, Souter was a surprise to most people. He had a decent record (albeit thin) before his nomination. There wasn’t a lot of drama when he was chosen. He turned left after he got there. The process has changed dramatically since Stevens was nominated (since Bork, actually), so that’s a non-example example.

    Oh, and…it doesn’t really matter now. Romney IS going to be the nominee. So any discussion is simply academic. You either vote for him or you provide either a half or whole vote for Obama.

  • snowshooze

    At issue is the interest rates.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505144_162-57419791/romney-backs-student-loan-proposal-obama-supports/
    But Romney is headed left like a bullet.
    And notice in this article his pandering to the Hispanics as well.
    Not dishonest, I do not need to be.
    The truth is more than enough.

  • checkmate2012

    as a contrast point for BO. Unfortunately, Romney didn’t do a good job of explaining the problem. Reality is, O’care swallowed the entire student loan process & the bill changed the rates in July 2012. The Dems did it to themselves in passing the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act in 2010.

  • checkmate2012

    This is from whitehouse.gove- http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/education/higher-education

    “New borrowers who assume loans after July 1, 2014, will be able to cap their student loan repayments at 10 percent of their discretionary income and, if they keep up with their payments over time, will have the balance forgiven after 20 years. Public service workers ? such as teachers, nurses, and those in military service ? will see any remaining debt forgiven after just 10 years”

    Nit-picky I know. I wish I could have loan repayment on my 30-year mortgage after 10 years regardless of the contract I signed!

    Yet another case of free lunches for some at the expense of the 51% paying taxes. It never ends….

  • demsaresatanic

    checkmates for us ahead.

  • checkmate2012

    and will only be checks in the short term if Romney doesn’t make a the truth be known. But they add up & overall the R’s would be on the losing end of this one if they said yeah let’s let the rate go up.

  • demsaresatanic

    concerns me, it’s the future ones.

  • powertothepeople

    if you want to be taken seriously as a political poster, you have to make sure what you post is accurate. Can not post wrong info then backtrack later by saying you misread the actual information. Intended or not, that is dishonesty.

    But setting that aside, not sure where you get he is heading left on this issue. There are plenty of things to bring up about Romney or even be concerned about Romney, keeping interest rates at 3.4% is not one of them. If he were actually trying to forgive a trillion is debt, you could say he was heading left. You could even say he was showing his moderate colors and willingness to capitulate if he sided with the partial forgiveness, but again, not a leftist idea.

    As to the illegals, this is not a clear cut issue as to who is moderate, right, or left when it comes to those already here and education grants for the kids of illegals. I personally want all illegals arrested, prosecuted, imprisoned, then after completion of the prison term, shipped home. But this is not a desire that will ever become a reality. So even our own side is divided on what to do. The only real litmus test of a republican is how to secure our borders in order to slow down the invasion.

    As to education for illegal kids, I was once against it. But after wise counsel and some thought I realize there was a major problem with my line of thought. Most importantly, the kids are not at fault for their parents actions, period. For the ones who have earned the grades, done the work, stayed within the law of the land, they should not be punished for the parents actions by denying them the same opportunities at a higher education offered to citizens. We have a choice, since they are here to stay, do we do our best to give them to the tools to be productive citizens or deny them the tools because of what their parents have done and then end up paying for them via entitlements and or prison? The answer is and was easy, if they earn it they should get it just as a citizen.

    I am not a fan of Romney just as you seem not to be. But neither of us need to grasp at straws just to make a point and our real focus should be on Obama regardless of our opinion of Romney. I do not believe you to be a fool and since only a fool would claim a Romney presidency would be anywhere near as bad as another four years of Obama, we should remain focused on the scumbag in office now, not trying to tear down our only chance at ridding this country of a cancer.

  • snowshooze

    Um, we are still noyt to the convention.
    I am adament that I shall not sell out the conservative cause.
    Not now, not ever.
    So, if Romney is the Nominee… fine. I think it is a poor selection.
    So far as the rest… well.. my eyes glazed over…
    I try to punch out my points in a paragraph. Or a few lines.
    Seriously?? Who cares.

  • snowshooze

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/27/MUST-WATCH-Boehner-SlamsDemocrats-For-Politicizng-Everything-In-Passionate-Speech

  • Common_Cents

    This kinda crap is how obama lawyered his way up throughout his political career. I’d hate for this to have validity. Watch for it to be blown up into something big by the DEM propaganda media. I hope romney has been vetted to avoid stuff like this.

    *****************

    “The issue arises from the ballot Romney cast for Republican Scott Brown in January 2010 in the special election to replace the late Sen. Ted Kennedy.

    The former Massachusetts governor did not own property in the state in 2010 and registered to vote from an address in the unfinished basement of an 8,000 square-foot Belmont mansion owned by his son Tagg.

    Last June GOP political consultant Fred Karger filed a complaint with Massachusetts state election officials alleging that Romney voted in several elections without residing in the state.”

    Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-04-20/politics/31371937_1_ann-romney-massachusetts-governor-residency#ixzz1tLa8uEH3

  • rightlane1111

    n/t

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    use this one

    http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2012/04/28/2619/

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    I always use EE’s Morning Briefing. There’s one every weekday.

  • snowshooze

    Is more of a problem than the interest rates.
    They have no idea what they are doing, and should stay out of it.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Actually you’re such a whinypants whiner that I’m thinking Plouffe.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    ..

  • conservativerock5

    only

  • Dave_A

    The FED is only the initial supplier of dollars (everything needs *someone* to supply it, after all).

    They set the minimum price. Just like any other commodity-producer.

    Every other rate ‘downstream’ is set by the entity offering that rate, according to MARKET pressures.

    Interest rates, after all, are the price of money – nothing more, nothing less.

    There is simply no way around having ONE original supplier of the specific kind of money known as ‘Dollars’ if you want ‘Dollars’ to have any sort of value.

    It’s kind of like ‘What if everyone could copy and price Windows 7 at whatever price they wanted, what would that do to Microsoft and the value of a copy of Windows?’

  • Dave_A

    Just because they don’t adopt the policy YOU favor doesn’t make them wrong.

    And as the original ‘maker’ of USD (think of the dollar kind of like a patented/trademarked product – with the FED as the holder of said intellectual property), they have every right to set the price (base interest rate) you can buy it at.

  • Dave_A

    Remember that the US govt is the lender for all ‘student aid’ type student loans now (this sort of regulation doesn’t impact purely private, unsubsidized loans) and has been for almost 10 years now…

    And that they were the guarantor before that…. So they kind of ARE in a place to dictate terms on loan-rates (As the lender)….

    The REAL problem is the existence of federal student aid in the first place, which distorts the market-price of college (as a product).

    Without federal loans removing ALL market pressure on schools to keep prices down, the price of education would not have gone up like it has.

  • demsaresatanic

    http://www.npr.org/2012/04/25/151386989/federal-reserve-to-keep-interest-rates-low

  • Dave_A

    What constitutes a ‘residence’…

    I mean, if a 35yo unemployed drunk can register with mom’s basement as his home address (something the Dems would applaud, and probably assist in making happen), why can’t Romney register with his son’s basement?

    What next, are we going to count articles of clothing, personal items, and furniture? Does a toothbrush in a bathroom matter? Does he have to have a bed, or is couch good enough? Or is it just a question of weather he paid residence-based taxes to MA that year?

    Yeah, it’s kind of funny to speak in those terms when the guy in question has more money than sense…

    But the fact is, if it’s legal for an otherwise-homeless man to register from a basement… It’s legal for Romney.

    The only way it would be illegal, is if he voted in 2 separate states in the same election…….

  • Dave_A

    The FED’s rate is the ‘manuafcturer’s price’ for money.

    All ‘The FED keeping interest rates low’ does, is make it easier for banks to ‘buy’ money from them…

    The rate the BANK sells the money at (the actual MARKET interest rate) is determined purely by market forces…

    There is NO LAW preventing a bank from ‘buying’ money from the FED at 0.25% and re-selling it at 20% (to use an extreme example)….

    The only thing that keeps it from happening, is that competing banks would charge less of a rate, and the ’20%’ bank would get no customers.

    The rate you pay, in the end, is purely set by the market….

    All the FED does, is set the ‘lowest possible price’.

    But all original-producers do that for their products, weather it’s oil, software, or money….

  • JSobieski

    (1) The Fed is not a for profit entity, so it has no profit motive to constrain its behavior (oil companies could give away oil for free, but the shareholders wouln’t put up with it)

    (2) The Fed can for all relevant purposes create money at no cost, which differs from any other product/resource

    (3) Money is different that virtually any other product, both in terms of the inherent costs of paper money (essentially zero), and the fact that money is used by everyone

    Money is not just another commodity, although it isn’t magic pixie dust either.

  • demsaresatanic

    is not correct. Fed action has a direct impact upon market rates and the Fed commonly recognizes and utilizes that fact. Rates are a function of both market forces and Fed action.

  • Dave_A

    impacted by the FED’s action the same way that any product’s price is impacted by a ‘price change’ initiated by the producer.

    The FED has no way to actually make banks lower the rate they lend money at.

    They can force essentially everyone to RAISE rates if they want (as they set the minimum price) – but they cannot make anyone LOWER rates…

    If the banks wanted to, they could raise rates any time & pocket the difference as profit – just like if retailers wanted to ignore a manufacturer price cut, they are free to do so.

    Market competition prevents this from happening, though, and the actual market interest rate – like the market price of anything else – settles at equilibrium, whatever rate the market will bear.

  • checkmate2012

    but those that favor manipulation, for whatever purpose, will still argue with basic econ-and they’d be wrong :)

  • Dave_A

    The FED, if it were a business, would be very similar to a ‘knowledge company’ or a software firm… They have fixed costs, and a legitimate market-motive to maintain their product’s status as the world’s preferred reserve currency.

    Yes, they don’t have per-unit costs for money-production – but there are plenty of industries that ‘produce’ something with no costs other than the building & their employee’s salaries….

    For the purposes of explaining the pricing of money (and why the FED can’t force banks to lower rates) it’s easiest to cast the FED as a monopolist manufacturer, and the banking system as their wholesale and retail sales channels.

    Like I said, the analogy works….

  • demsaresatanic

    is one demonstration of my prior observation that

    “Fed action has a direct impact upon market rates and the Fed commonly recognizes and utilizes that fact. Rates are a function of both market forces and Fed action,”

    and contradicts your prior claim that,

    “the rate you pay, in the end, is purely set by the market.”

    When you argue on both sides you are bound to triumph, well done.

  • demsaresatanic

    you nailed it well. Yet another example of Federal action distorting the market.

  • checkmate2012

    look how we ended up: Fed policy, dollar value, manipulation and inflation…geez :) Way to start a snow storm!

  • snowshooze

    Possibly a middle ground could be found, 2 years Military service would net a guarantee of $60,000.00 or something like that.

  • snowshooze

    The GOP should be adamantly against any sort of interest cap.
    Free market should set the rate, by competition.
    Diving in there to be more liberal than a Democrat is just plumb dumb.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

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  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    ntease

  • acat

    Seriously?

    Conservatives lost the battle for the GOP POTUS nom because we didn’t work together.

    This has happened so often there ought to be a “rule” or “law” named after someone who pointed it out… something like this:

    “If more than 3 Conservatives are in the race when the Iowa caucus comes around, the Squish wins”.

    The question is what we can do to minimize the damage, lcdrscottcoleman … and that starts with working to elect Conservatives – not just republicans but Conservative republicans – to the House and Senate.

    We’ll need a hellacious bonfire to hold Romney’s feet to, eh?

    Mew

  • JSobieski

    Your analogy proves too much—it defends any and all decisions of the Fed.

    “The FED, if it were a business, would be very similar to a ?knowledge company? or a software firm? They have fixed costs, and a legitimate market-motive to maintain their product?s status as the world?s preferred reserve currency.” WHAT DIRECT PROFIT MOTIVE DOES THE FED HAVE? THE FED GAINS PRESTIGE IF THE DOLLAR IS USED MORE, BUT THEY DON’T GET PAID BONUSES. THE KIND OF PRESTIGE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS FAR MORE AKIN TO THE PRESTIGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUDNATION, NOT MICROSOFT..

    “Yes, they don?t have per-unit costs for money-production ? but there are plenty of industries that ?produce? something with no costs other than the building & their employee?s salaries?.” NO PROFIT MOTIVE. A MONOPOLIST SEEKS PROFIT MAXIMIZATION, THE FED IS MORE POLITICAL THAN BUSINESS.

    “For the purposes of explaining the pricing of money (and why the FED can?t force banks to lower rates) it?s easiest to cast the FED as a monopolist manufacturer, and the banking system as their wholesale and retail sales channels.” EASIEST BUT NOT ACCURATE. EVEN IF IT IS THE CLOSEST ANALOGOUS ENTITY, THERE ARE STILL MATERIAL DIFFERENCES.

    “Like I said, the analogy works?.” NO IT DOESN’T. THE ONLY CONSTRAINTS ON THE FED ARE HAVING THEIR TERMS EXPIRE (NOBODY GETS FIRED) AND HIGHLY GENERALIZED PRESTIGE FACTORS. UNIVERSITY FACULTY IS A FAR CLOSER ANALOGY THAN THE OFFICERS/DIRECTORS OF A BUSINESS.

  • APA Guy

    If I had to guess, I’d say Libertarian…not that it’s a terrible thing, but it can be if you actively undermine the GOP option to replace a Soviet-era style socialist like Obama.

  • snowshooze

    And it is against natural market law to dictate interest rates.
    Also, if you do so, the cost will be shifted elsewhere.
    It has to.

  • snowshooze

    Dictating interest rates for student loans, to less than my mortgage?
    Now who is going to pay for that?
    In a conservative ideal, each man pays his own way.
    You do not subsidize me, and Ido not subsidize you.
    Our problems are our own to deal with.
    Along with out opportunities.
    Normally, that would put me way ahead.
    But with the Republican party in competition with the Democrat party to give away the mostest, the fastest…
    It makes it hard on a guy like me.
    Screw them.

  • snowshooze

    I am thrilled.
    Well, my last remaining hope… the convention.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    ,,

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Sounds like you’re not a Republican.

  • snowshooze

    No sweat brother.

  • snowshooze

    I am against welfare, social security, food stamps. abortion,baseline budgets, bailouts, the commerce clause in general..Obama, Romney, Luger, and a lot more.
    I gues I hate everything, and most people as well.
    An equal opportunity hater though… I don’t play the favorites.

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