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True unemployment breaks 17% again – Obama’s jobless recovery continues

The government unemployment report that the economy lost another 95,000 jobs and that the unemployment rate remained stuck at 9.6 percent in September is a disaster for the Obama/Democrats.

The government’s broader measure of unemployment, sometimes referred to “true unemploytment,” now stands at 17.1 percent. As  the Washington Post’s Frank Ahrens puts it, you are not included in the “official” unemployment rate if, a) you would like to have a full-time job but can find only part-time work, and b) if you’ve grown so discouraged at finding work, you’ve simply given up:

If you include all of these people into the number — all of the people who should be working full time but are not — the truer U.S. unemployment rate is a much higher 16.8 percent.

The higher, more inclusive, unemployment number is buried in the government’s monthly report as “U6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force” in “Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization.” Unlike the “official” unemployment rate, the U6 number includes both marginal and part-time workers as the “true” or “real” unemployment level.

This is once again a good time to recall President Obama’s promises about his boondoggle stimulus package:

  • When pushing for passage of his $800 billion so-called stimulus package, President Obama proposed five different goals over eight weeks for his boondoggle and finally settled on a claim that his bailout would create three to four million jobs.
  • Team Obama used scare tactics to get the Democrat-controlled Congress to give him the massive spending bill dressed up as a stimulus. They assured us that without Obama’s bailout the unemployment rate would reach 9 percent, but if Congress passed his boondoggle, unemployment would peak at 8 percent.

The unemployment rate scare tactic was contained in Obama’s “The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan.” At Innocent Bystanders, Geoff, has plotted the actual unemployment rates on Obama’s prediction chart. Where are the jobs?

As we all unfortunately know, despite Team Obama’s assurances unemployment not only surpassed 8 and 9 percent, it actually broke 10 percent.

When will Obama admit that his misguided tax, spend and borrow policies have not done the job and are epic failures? We may have so far avoided a double dip recession under Obama. But sadly, in less than two years, we have now seen true unemployment rise above 17 percent three times during Obama’s presidency.

Also posted at Right Side Politics.

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  • rdelbov

    about 1001 different ways to look our current unemployment situation.

    1. Go wayback as you did and yup unemployment broke 10% in oct 2009-officially that is. We are reaching the one year anniversary but let just ask this question. How long has it been since our UE was between 9.8% and 9.5% for a year? I am not sure it was that bad for a year in 1982? Maybe 1930′s?

    2. How long will it be before it drops below 9.5% officially? I see no relief this year or in 2011.

    3. How discouraged can you be? If the same % of the workforce was employed or actively employment as it was in 2007 our unemployment rate would be 12.2% or near that number. Ponder this point we need +150K jobs added a month to maintain our employment rate. We lost 95K jobs in September and our UE rate stayed the same. Rounding error? No we have a steady stream of discouraged workers plus people withdrawing from the workforce.

    4. Another reason why the unemployment rate will stay high is that as noted we have discouraged workers who will flood back in when and if jobs are available.

    So gloom and despair are the new hope and change.

  • grandma

    This plus what I just read: Obama Considering Rule by Executive Order in 2011, http://floydreports.com/?p=2425 really made my day.

    The thing that dumped my month is knowing how the Republican elites wrote off our tea party congressional candidate in Indiana, Mark Leyva. He is trying to dislodge Pete Vislosky (under investigation – PMA and Obama puppet).

    If at any time Pete could remotely be dislodged, the timing is now. But do we get any help. NO. Not even a pol.

    The only help was an endorsement by Mike Pence.

    • gamechange11two

      Three words for the 112th congress to live by: defund, defund, & defund.

    • Scope

      It was a great read. I also looked into some other articles, and also into who Floyd is. Pretty impressive guy. I bookmarked his site. Remember at one point when we were reading that Axelrod was looking into just how much Obama could do with EO’s? Maybe they found the answer, but are keeping it under wraps. I’m not sure why they looked into it to begin with, as the O has paid no attention to the Rule of Law, the Constitution, or the what the powers of the Executive Branch are anyway. He does as he pleases.

      Sorry Mr. Leyva isn’t getting more national attention. There are so many districts that have not been covered, as it really is an almost impossible feat to cover all of them. For me, an endorsement by Mike Pence goes a long way, much more so than some of the other endorsers.

    • minncon

      Seems the last pic I saw of “Il Duce,” his heels were pointing to the sky. May “Il Zero” meet the same fate (metaphorically speaking, of course.)

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  • student

    This is an old story. Obama’s collectivist statist policies have been tried many times in many countries – massive manufacture of unbacked liquidity coupled with high taxation, high regulation, facilitation of unionization by union allies, growth of the public sector, severe anti-business policies. It always goes the same way – stagnation gives rise to stagflation gives rise to currency collapse and economic devastation followed by poverty and tyranny. Obama could care less about this or unemployment or oil spills or any real problems. His real intention is to destroy America as a bulwark of capitalism (as a Marxist his enemy) and the west (as his Father’s anti-colonial son his enemy) and he could care less about the devastation he causes.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    how more like the 30s this is getting

    • OccamsRazor
  • fbks

    How many who are self employed, no unemployment claim stats, not looking for a job, but who simply make a job for themself………..
    A lot of construction people are in this category. It is worse than 17.1%.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    Sadly, it has staying power

  • Viator

    Of course 17% (U-6) is not the true unemployment number at all but, rather, a number created by the Clinton administration to fool and lull people, including RedState into thinking this is a true unemployment number. During the Clinton Administration the method used by the BLS to calculate the unemployment number (U-6) was revised to hide the ‘true” value.

    John Williams at Shadowstats still keeps a running tally using the old pre-Clinton method. The “true” unemployment figure is about 22.5%.

    The lamestream media, of course, uses the even lower U-3 number in it’s reporting. In the following graph the blue line represents the old pre-Clinton U-6 or “true” number.

    http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

  • Death_of_the_Donkey

    and still we have U-3 at 9.6% and U-6 at 17.1%, now that is a very scary predicament to be in.

  • libertyatstake

    dys?con?o?my
    ?noun
    A kind of “free” sort of “market” economy in which the complex of bureaucratic regulation and taxation prevents growth in the complex of human activities concerned with the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services.

    http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
    “Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”

  • DirtyDave

    The newest urban myth is that there is a recovery, with or without employment growth.

    • betweenextremes

      We will see the first day of total recovery on November 3rd.

  • betweenextremes

    We will not have to worry about unemployment much longer, once the conservatives have taken over congress, after November, Americans will see the end of joblessness, foreclosures, war, and deficit. By July we will all be working again, our troops will be home, our homes restored to us, and we will all be whistling Dixie. Yay!!

  • JHSinHouston

    “When will Obama admit that his misguided tax, spend and borrow policies have not done the job and are epic failures?”

    When will we wake up that Obama’s policies are not misguided; they are very guided. You say they have not done the job; they have done the job exactly as they were designed. You say they are epic failures? They continue to be wildly successful. But you say, “we have 17% unemployment and we’ve lost 9 million jobs”? YES, precisely because Obama intends to stifle the U.S. economy as payback for our ‘undeserved’ success over the past 230 years.

    He is a Marxist, not a bumbling Capitalist. He is mean, not just misguided. When he said TARP would hold unemployment below 8%, he LIED. Wake up sleephead…

  • oldpedler

    In the 10/8 briefing the incumbent reelection numbers were ridiculous. Any politician involved in the last 2 years of these devastating policies MUST be thrown out. Then in 2012 we must get the rest of these bums.
    When I hear any one say “I will do more for our state”, all I hear is earmarks. Earmarks (read PORK) are not the solution, they are a big part of the problem. It is the United States we need to save, not any state.