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Is it time for Rick Perry?

By: Dan Spencer (Diary) | July 21st, 2011 at 03:30 PM |

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A new web site, Time for Perry, has been launched urging Texas Governor Rick Perry to seek the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

You can watch the site’s featured video, “It’s Time for Perry,” below:

I’m fond of Perry’s first principle of governing — “do not spend all the money.”

I had the opportunity to meet Governor Perry and learned about his principles for governing at the 2010 RedState Gathering in Austin.

Governor Perry will be at the 2011 RedState Gathering. Will you?

Tags: 2012 Elections, Governor, Presidential Campaign, Rick Perry, Texas

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Ben Howe

…yes I will.
inovrmihd

I thought GW was a lousy president. I want to know in what ways Rick Perry is different.

throwback59

is a so called “Compassionate Conservative.” I believe he is a real conservative, but I want to hear more from him.
http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

Bush 41 and some people associated with both Bush camps opposed Perry in the primary for governor and supported Hutchinson. Some of the Bush advisers even went so far as to publicly warn Perry not to attack Bush. The liberal media made some hay with that threat. Bush 43 has remained silent.

What about Perry reminds you of GW?

kowalski

Heh. Boy it looks like everyone bought into that story from the Washington Post.

kowalski

It’s not going to be a problem. It’s not going to be 1/100000th the problem the media made it out to sound like.

http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

I saw it in the New York Times. I think the story only cited unnamed aides of Bush. As I said Bush remained silent. So did Perry.

The threat was that Perry should not attack Bush. Why would Perry attack Bush when Obama is the target? It never made sense to me.

The media template seems to be either Perry is Bush 2.0 or that Perry and Bush hate each other. Right now they are trying both to see which sticks.

Scope

that is the libs crying call against Perry currently. I’m sure you will have many more insightful gripes against Perry. BDS is worn out, Obama wore out that mantra.

inovrmihd

Admittedly, part of my negative feeling is purely visceral, but the one time I saw him interviewed he seemed simpleminded. I want someone with some intellectual heft. Perhaps I will be proven wrong.

Scope

What interview would that be that made him appear single minded? Do you have any link to that interview as I really want to know what some think. What seemed to be his single mindedness? I really am curious.

inovrmihd

Forget where I saw it. He railed against government intrusion into peoples lives, but no specifics. I want someone with Paul Ryan’s ability to consider details. What I don’t want is another intellectual lazy individual who will get rolled. Again, I admittedly don’t know much about the guy. I just want a conservative who is smart.
gekster

You have one vauge opiniom of Perry,
you don’t even know where you got that opinion from,
and so you dismiss the guy.

We need more voters with your vast intellect.
Scope

and harder to tell the difference between the Libs and the Paulies. They have one thing in common though, none of them can tell you why, when or where, they just know they are right all the time, and, you better listen to them or else.
packeryman

You sound like a guy with great intellect from your postings. We need more O’Donnell”S(DE) and Angles(NV) to take the party further down. As we move further right we lose more Independents and moderates. Our government won’t work with a group like we now have in the House(this my way or the highway crowd can’t govern due to the lack of the ability to compromise). The sooner America rids itself of these freaks the better off we will be. Ron Paul has great ideas, he has a perfect conservative voting record, has the right idea of closing all foreign bases and bringing home all troops. We need to stop trying to be the policemen of the world. If other countries don’t want to supply their own security then they can hire our highly trained Merc’s. Revisit all failed our free trade agreements and make them fair trade agreements so American workers can operate on an equal basis.I as an Independent call for all moderate Republicans and Independents to vote out all far right radical religious fanatics and tea party freaks next 2012. It is survival of the nation.
mikeymike143

isnt it time for you to watch alex jones or jesse ventura. nt

in 2008, ron paul ran in the republican presidential primary for president. he got 5% of the vote. that means 19 OUT OF 20 REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTERS REJECTED THIS LOSER!!
gekster

Like most mind numbed bots, will not listen.
Just sit back and laugh.
snowshooze

Then the Tea Party.. well, they were pushing for the only viable solution in the 2.5 tril walking around monrey grab.
Now I am a bit torn on fair trade, hard to compete with Nations who don’t have a pocket full of anchors on their manufacturers.
I’d never waste time chasing an independent. I have less respect for them than a Democrat as at least a Democrat is off the fence and fighting for his cause, where Independents strike me as so hopelessly lost they are beyond help.
But don’t take that as personal. It isn’t
JSobieski

Attempting to reach independents by watering everything down is the mistake.

Reagan spent a lot of time and effort to convert independents, if not permanently then at least within the scope of his terms in office.

Free trade is beneficial even when it isn’t fair. Case in point–Hong Kong unilaterally has lower trade barriors with everyone else. It doesn’t even attempt to receive reciprocity.

Hong Kong went from dirt poor to rich in a short period of time even though it is a small island with no natural resources to speak of.
snowshooze

And it appears to me that a lot of Republicans are selling out their own thinking only of increasing their supporters by moving left.
I think the general label for those is RINO.
So how is the tax structure in Hong Kong?
How is their military doing?
What form of government is it they have?
Scope

Reagan may have gone after the Independent vote, but he didn’t do it with giving up his principles. He never did just to chase the illusive Independent vote. You believed in him, or you didn’t.

If the current candidates give up their principles just to chase the very elusive, ever changing, and mostly one issue voters, they risk losing the base. I just want the candidates to say what they mean, and mean what they say, no matter what stage they are standing on. That to me is where many R candidates will fall. Honesty and sincerity will rule the day in 2012, not pandering to the Independents.
JSobieski

Nothing I said gets close to even implying that. To the contrary, Reagan constantly adjusted how he conveyed conservatism over the years so that he could be MORE effective in communicating conservatism to independents. That is what Reagan was doing during his GE days—he was learning how to convey conservatism so that independents would be persuaded.

One of the problems at redstate is that virtually any comment that includes the word “independents” that isn’t dismissive of independents results in a response saying how we should abandone our principles. I am not suggesting that principles be abandoned.

“Attempting to reach independents by watering everything down is the mistake.”

This specifically addresses the point that conservatism should not be watered down and principles not abandoned. Not sure how else I can say it.

“Reagan spent a lot of time and effort to convert independents, if not permanently then at least within the scope of his terms in office.”

The word “convert” is contrary to the abandonment of principles—which would be “cowtowing.”

I don’t think you disagree with me, you just didn’t read that carefully.

In case any of the above is unclear, I am NOT advocating abandoning principles. I AM saying that conservatives—particularly politicians—need to up their game so that independents will not be repulsed.

For example, very few conservative politicians can speak effectively on entitlement reform–Ryan, Rubio, DeMint—the list is small
JSobieski

his techniques for communicating conservatism. The GE years were all about that. Years of speaches, Q&A, etc. He learned what worked and what didn’t. He came up with anecdotes and anologies that worked, constantly upping his game.

One doesn’t spend so much time doing all that without giving some care and concern to actually converting and persuading voters. Reagan almost always took advantages of opportunity persuade. He did not right off independents.
aesthete

What good does it do to have the correct philosophy if you can’t implement it, or advocate for it successfully? Reagan was not as successful as he could have been, but he did a lot more with a lot less available to him than any modern Republican President who preceded him (or any of the ones that followed). This was in large part due to his ability to speak to independents who did not necessarily share his “dangerous” ideology, but who did trust him on an instinctive level.

I don’t know if Perry has that ability, or that if he does, that he would use it to the service of reducing the power, scope and deficit of the federal government as President — but IMO, that should be the primary determinant for who one supports as President this election.
Scope

I did put more emphasis on your title to your comment, than what you said in the body of that comment, with respect to staying with your principles. I do still believe that “worrying” about the independents is not healthy for any candidate, as if you are putting that much time and effort into the multitude of differing issues and desires of the independents, you are not necessarily focusing on and trying to sell your core beliefs.

Yes, Reagan had a way of selling his ideas without being offensive to many, even though he was running for the presidency in a hostile environment, including the Republican establishment at that time. So far Perry has not backed down on his support for traditional social issues, and his economics for the state of Texas speak for themselves. Hopefully he will expand on his support of the Reagan doctrine of peace through strength. He has said that America must remain the global superpower.

As Perry said, why worry about the liberals, they’re never going to like us anyway. That also applies to the majority of independents that voted for Obama. Now they are leaving Obama in droves. Where are they going to go, to the opposite end of the spectrum, and vote for a conservative? I think that’s why they are called fence sitters, waiting for the wind to make their decision for them.
JSobieski

Winning elections requires getting more votes than the other side

If we only receive self-identified conservative votes, we lose (just as liberals would lose if they only receive self-identified liberal votes)

Bottom line: If you actually want to implement conservativism, we need more conservatives. Put another way, we need to convert people. It is far easier and more likely to convert an independent than a liberal.

I don’t like mush independents any better than you, but the political reality that swing voters determine elections is simply that … reality. We have no choice but to appeal to independent voters. There are only two ways to do that (1) sell out or (2) convert them through education.

I vote for option (2). Anything less than a purposeful decision to pursue option 2 results in option 1 by default.

Look at presidential elections over the last 30 years. They are determined by fence sitters. Many Reagan democrats voted for Clinton and Obama.

If we aren’t in politics to win, what are we in for?
http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

I suggest you read Fed UP and some of his proclamations and press releases as governor. Perry identifies the problems and offers solutions. You don’t get to be the longest serving governor of the second largest state by being simpleminded.
acat

it’s why they keep playing the race and “it’s for the children” cards.

Calling Palin “dumb” worked, so they’re trying it again. Nothing to see here.

I’ll just ignore the double irony that many Dems have abysmal grades, and many bright college boys and girls are utterly useless in the real world.

Mew

Tbone

and he thinks I’m a genius just because I can work a doorknob.

Tbone

and appoint Roberts and Alioto to SCOTUS. As such, he does have a way to go to be as lousy as GWB was.

Because I have my doubts about you cognizance, yes, the above was structured to point out your stupidity.

And yes, whoever suggested your screen name was spot on though you may have been only standing in a puddle at the time.

aesthete

a skyrocketing deficit, enormous entitlement expansion and education centralization, First Amendment-violating legislation, and two pointless military occupations as Governor of Texas, which also makes him a good deal less lousy than Bush. (I’d also note that it would have been Roberts and Miers without the support of the grassroots, which is a much less appealing combo than Roberts/Alito.)

gregorysstewart

Rick Perry has been elected governor three times in Texas. That has never been done before. In Texas, the politicians get toxic quickly, but Perry was just easily reelected.

Nearly half the jobs created during this “recovery” have been created in Texas. Those jobs were created at the same time that Obama was still whining that everything was W’s fault.

Texas just added 4 congressional seats to its delegation. That many people moving to Texas shows that Americans are voting with their feet and they are going where prosperity reigns.

This is not a case of right place at the right time. While Texas was welcoming a million new jobs, California was saying goodbye to just as many. Need proof? Let’s take a look at Katrina, a category four storm that demolished an unprepared Democratic city, and an unprepared Democratic Louisiana Governor Blanco. Less known is the Category four storm Rita that hit Houston, a month later, because Perry had things so organized and prepared, we were unable to find the suffering and ineptitude that surrounded New Orleans.

So, just because two people come from the second largest state in the union, we should not assume they are twins.

pantera

I especially like the graph’s, ”It’s time to believe in ourselves again” and ”It’s time for America to get back to work”(84 Reagan motto,America’s back to work)

UN RICK RUN

funwithknives

so now let him announce and start A/B comparisons in Media that go Point for Point, Perry Vs Obama. Show results and consequences. Also show in general terms what BARRY Said and what He Did, 2007/2010. His plan, Vs. His reality. Make him OWN his many Abject Failures and Mechanizations, leading us to where we are.
acat

is the Reagan tag line I most remember. It’s good to see Perry remembers it too.

It’s morning again in America

I also have no doubt Perry understands that there’s a bear in the woods.

Mew

Flagstaff

If he does, I’ll be there to see it.

gracie

n/t

acat

Be a shame to invite accusations of using the prayer breakfast for political gain.

That’d be what I’d view as an unforced error.

Mew

gracie

These things matter.

It’s also going to be very interesting how he explains his errors on Guardasil for instance. What I would give to hear an honest, “I made a big mistake.” instead of a Romney answer, defending the indefensible.

We will have a lot to see. Even the people in Texas are not all for him by any means. But how I would love to see his pro-growth, pro-drilling, gov get outoftheway policies go into effect all over this country! Not to mention his view of American Exceptionalism. He seems very sincere here.

http://jhpruitt.blogtownhall.com/ kipling

Just kidding. I called it last week but I think someone else beat me to it as well.

I would not be surprised if he does. I cannot make it to the Gathering this year so if he does I envy you. Hey, I envy you just for going.

Flagstaff

just like Newton and Leibniz.

izoneguy

It is too uplifting, positive and patriotic.
Viator

“last week’s Austin briefing with Bush era foreign policy hands and potential presidential hopeful Rick Perry:

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld helped organize Rick Perry’s foreign policy and national security briefing in Austin last Wednesday, Rumsfeld’s staff confirmed today.

Perry’s aides have been tight-lipped about the gathering, which National Review reported included former Rumsfeld aides Doug Feith, Daniel Fata, and William Luti, as well as the magazine’s Andrew McCarthy and others . But I’m told Rumsfeld helped steer Perry’s staff to the low-key advisory group.
Continue Reading

The connection was fortiuitious: The two men know each other, but don’t have a particularly close relationship; however Rumsfeld’s research director, Victoria Coates, has friends on Perry’s staff and made the connection.

Rumsfeld spokesman Keith Urbahn said in an emailed statement:

Governor Perry’s staff recently reached out to our office for names of national security and foreign policy experts that Mr. Rumsfeld respects and trusts. To Mr. Rumsfeld’s knowledge, Governor Perry’s staff selected the individuals who attended last week’s briefing in Austin, Texas. ”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59497.html#ixzz1SmkS0S13

I wish I was as enthusiastic as so many other people.

“General Tommy Franks, who led both the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan and the Iraq War, once called Feith “the dumbest ****ing guy on the planet.”

http://www.gmfus.org/cs/experts/expert_profile?expert.id=76

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Luti

(edited by Bill S. to remove profanity)

jonnymuffin

That is like reaching out to Hank Paulson, Timothy Geithner, and Ben Bernanke for advise on the economy.
Rusty_S

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kowalski

Look, my basic opinion of the Republican/Conservative field right now is this: it’s growing, we should let it grow.

Yes, Yes I know this directly contradicts a statement I made here on Redstate just the other day. But I’ve had a change of heart. I think right now the best thing is to get as many Conservative and Republican voices out there as possible, perhaps for another six months or so. I chose the winnowing time too drastically. We don’t have to decide on this yet: in fact what we need are more voices out there, giving people more options.

The Democrats are already crystallized on their nominee. We know who he is. It’s going to me a little uncertainty in the party (or parties) for a while. The fundraising will be a little lackluster as a result, for any individual candidate. But the great benefit is that a lot more voices will be heard from our side. We’re going to reach a point where the field needs to be narrowed down but right now it would be counterproductive.

So I welcome Rick Perry to the field. I wish Christie would get in there, too.

Here in July of 2011, I’m saying: “The more the merrier.”

kowalski

I have great faith that when the chips come down this time, the Republicans and Conservatives and Libertarians and Intelligent Undecideds are going to coaelsce on the best candidate and it’s going to be Anybody But Obama. With a little luck it will be someone the majority of those cohorts can actually agree upon. I think it will be.

Obama is a terrible president. We don’t need to beat him so much as we need to avoid beating ourselves.

kowalski

YES. It’s time for Rick Perry (and a couple of others) to think about throwing their hats into the ring.

We need more voices out there. Let’s remember it’s still early. A lot can be done with a good announcement, a good team, and a moderate amount of money. Get out there and mix it up. Learn what works. Throw some elbows but not too sharp or mean-spirited. Think of this as a work in progress.

Everybody do a little Sly and the Family Stone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YXPJOUD7G0&feature=related

kowalski

The Donks and their minions will try to paint that as a lack of coherence or a “fracture” … but they can bite me. Fact is, a lot of people in America want to hear more from more candidates, not more of the same from fewer. They’re looking for options and I think we should give them options.

Flagstaff

The Leftys are always telling us we’re too homogeneous, too much alike, and now that we have a range of ideas from center to moderately right to far right, they want to claim we’re confused or in turmoil. The only real political debate among sane people is within the Republican-Tea Party combined.

my2pennies

He would virtually guarantee Romney the nomination.

kowalski

I don’t see any evidence that Romney is the “odds on favorite” or that somehow Perry jumping in will cement him as such. That’s just ridiculous. Romney has so many rivers to cross, still, after all this time.

No, the situation is much more fluid than that. We’re a long way from Election Day and on our side of the aisle we have a great – and growing – group of people who are working on the goal. Saying that Perry cements Romney is like saying that Bachmann guarantees Palin. It’s ridiculous.

This field on the Republican/Conservative side is changing every day. This is no time to crystallize on anyone. I think Perry getting into the game right now is superb. I want to hear a lot more from him.
medicineman

Ha Ha….Perry is Romney’s worse nightmare…maybe if he plays his cards right, he can get a cabinet post..

Spiral

We should not nominate a candidate who provided Obama the template for Obama-care.

I want Perry in this contest because we need someone who can defeat Romney.

Could Bachmann defeat Romney? Maybe. But I have more confidence that Perry can.

Flagstaff

where they may. But if Perry gets in, today he is the candidate most likely to get both Tea Party and grass-roots Republican approval. I believe he IS truly conservative, and he has a pretty strong record as governor of Texas.

Whoever is chosen should do his best to convince Marco Rubio to join him/her on the ticket. It seems to that Perry and Rubio should be able to more than hold their own with Obama. Unlike Johnny Mac, both of them can talk and make sense when standing behind a podium.

Tbone

have priced your opinion too high.
izoneguy

He would virtually guarantee that Romney won’t get the nomination.

izoneguy

Ha Ha?.Perry is Romney?s worse nightmare?maybe if he plays his cards right, he can get a job driving Obama’s limo.

msctex

n/t
Scope

if you want credibility as a poster. How exactly would Perry insure a Romney nomination? You will have to say something more than a soundbite to back up your position.

jmimac351

’nuff said.
Viator

?Nobody should ever be afraid of these contested primaries,?
?Competition is good. This is democracy at work.?

kowalski

Alaska, Texas, Wisconsin, New Jersey, and all the other states represented by our field of candidates. We cover the entire politispace here in America. Obama has Hawaii and Chicago, as far as I can tell. The most important thing right now is to allow our side of the field to expand and compete with each other.

Mitch Daniels? Where are you in Indiana? We need you in there too.

Tbone

he could be running. I mean if he actually was running it would be hard to tell the difference between his full bore(d) campaign and not running.( Or even his being like, dead)

acat

I thought Pawlenty was the boring one, and Daniels was the one with the bad speaking voice…

Mew

Tbone

Corpses tend to look alike after a few days.
BA Cyclone

It’s worth some research. I think they are even polling about the same…

keysconservative

He appeals to TEA Partiers in a way Romney never will, plus he has that ‘big dog in the fight’ appeal in a way Bachmann or Pawlenty still don’t. I don’t think Newt, Cain, Santorum or the other candidates have broad enough appeal to win the nomination, although each of them have some positives.
As for Palin? Who knows? I don’t think she’s running, but I wouldn’t rule her out as a VP pick. Perry/Bachmann or Perry/Palin sounds good to me.
barneget

Credentialed success coupled with youthful fiscally conservative appeal. That is the prescription a 2012 win.

radicalrighty

Oh yeah. Count me in.

radicalrighty

Liberals and Ron Paul nutcases.

You’ll hear both squeal the first Tuesday in Nov, 2012.

izoneguy

When Perry supported Guilani in 2008 instead of Paul.

I think I would rather have an endorsement from Guilani instead of Paul……

I wonder where Rick Perry will be 9/11/11????

http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

nt
rightwingmom52

He said Perry supports Agenda 21. Do you have anything on that? I’d like to have a rebuttal ready next time I see him, and I thought you might already have some info.

astrolite

Not quite understanding your statement, I assume you are aware of the details of Agenda 21, if it is true….and he really agrees with it? Out he goes! We need to get out of the UN and get it out of here. Let them pay their own inflated salaries and pay for their own leftist agenda. Why should we pay for our own destruction? Is it because Israel needs our veto?
Scope

is clearly in for Ron Paul. He is pushing for Ron Paul on his site. Alex Jones, the father of conspiracy theories, has been on the TTC thingy since way back when. He had maps and pictures and all the made up details posted, and claimed that the buildings along the corridor that went from Texas right up to Canada were already built. He claimed that the stop offs were owned by the Mexican Gov., and that was where the hispanics would drop off their illegal drug loads, with no one watching. He claimed that that was where the truck loads of illegals would get into the country. He also had pictures of all the abandoned military bases that were going to be used as internment camps that would be used when Marshall Law was called, back then by Bush. This Jones guy has some serious mental disabilities. That is where the Paulies are getting all their conspiracy theory stuff, including the Build-a-Burger, and Agenda 21 garbage. The Paulies are picking stuff up from Infowars or Prison Planet, whatever he calls it, and carrying it everywhere they can. That is clearly the home of the black helicopter crowd.

http://xmmlbchat.blogspot.com katesmith

Wanted to make sure people know Agenda 21 is not a conspiracy theory, but a very real and aggressive United Nations program that has grown like cancer. Most here know this, but someone new browsing might not. It shares profiteer/thugs with UN global warming/sustainable/renewable/ scams which all seek to get inside every American home, classroom, and business and destroy them . Groups of citizens are starting to get together to fight it. The Bilderberg group is quite real, too. As far as Rick Perry, my understanding is he is outspoken that global warming is a giant scam. If it’s true he’s a fan of Agenda 21, he needs to be ridiculed off the public stage. I have found Alex Jones to be right about things involving the UN
Scope

and his infowars site is that they hate Rick Perry and have for a long time. Ron Paul appears on Alex Jones radio show frequently, along with Lew Rockwell. They have tried to tie Rick Perry into every conspiracy theory they can come up with. Here is an article where infowars claims Rick Perry attended the Bilderberg meeting where they discussed Agenda 21.

http://askmarion.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/more-on-bilderberg-week-including-agenda-21-updates/

I’m sure Alex Jones may have some things right, but like Ron Paul, even a clock is right twice a day. Anyone who reads and believes the garbage that Alex Jones puts out there, with Ron Paul, cannot be taken as a serious thinker. Alex Jones quite possibly, no probably, is even more loony than Ron Paul.

They want Ron Paul to become president and will do all they can to destroy anyone in his path that can beat him. It’s easy to get the Paul supporters to believe anything, and to spread rumors everywhere they can. You know, it’s that whole R3volution thingy.
jonnymuffin

I mean, you don’t have to be an alex jones fan to see it’s happening right in front of our eyes!

It’s not that this is some great conspiracy, it’s just that information is out there that our national sovergnty is under attack.

Fox News Reports on Agenda 21:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G89FzWTE9cE

The Blaze Reports on Agenda 21:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-the-soros-sponsored-agenda-21-a-hidden-plan-for-world-government-yes-only-it-is-not-hidden/

“President Obama signed his 86th executive order (13575) on June 9, which established the White House Rural Council (WHRC). According to ‘The Blaze’, the Executive Order seems to be in line with the United Nations radical Agenda 21, as it is designed ?to begin taking control over almost all aspects of the lives of 16 percent of the American people.? continue:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/7958-obama-signs-agenda-21-related-executive-order
Aaron Gardner

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jonnymuffin

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rightwingmom52

it was intended to ask if there was any evidence that Perry supports it or not. I was making the assumption he does not. Since izoneguy is pretty familiar with Perry’s positions, I was hoping for a short-cut instead of having to research it myself.

The main point is that since the accusation came from a rabid Ron Paul fan, I doubted it was true.

gekster

A bing search for “Perry on agenda 21″.
I found alot of claims, but no REAL evidence.
Lots of lefty sites that say he is for it, but again, no real evidence or proof.
Scope

coming from those that support Ron Paul. I just read a Campaign for Liberty site that claimed that Kathleen Seibulius admitted that she and Rick Perry attended a Bilderberger meeting together, and are pushing for Agendsa 21. Another Paul supporting site claims that Romney, Pawlenty and Perry are all Agenda 21 supporters. Another site claimed that Grover Norquist hinted that Rick Perry is a globalist, and when I clicked on the link to what Norquist said, he said that the Las Vegas debate was being held up to give Perry time to get in the race, and that was it.

By the time we get done with it, the libs won’t have any “vetting” to do with Perry, they can just sit back and watch the Paulbots try to destroy Perry, and everyone else that stands in Paul’s way. They are very very desperate to destroy any competition that could take Paul out. They know Paul can’t win diddly squat unless they use the Obama, clear the field tactics. It won’t work. Paul will thankfully be gone after Jan. 2013 from Wash., problem is the nutjobs he created will still be there.
rightwingmom52

was probably the case, but you never know. My conversation with the Paul fan was a follow-up to an earlier discussion where I told him to go home and try to find a reasonable explanation for Paul’s third party endorsement, specifically for McKinney. Of course, there is none. After he threw out the Perry/Agenda 21 comment, I told him search “Stormfront” and its support for Paul and get back to me since Paul had not said or done anything to distance himself from the racist group.

He actually asked me how I know more about Paul than he does. I told him I read the right websites!
gekster

Funny how this internet thingy works.
Now if only the Paulbots could learn to use it, but I guess mindnumbness
doesn’t allow that.
It’s not in thier playbook.
Scope

as RWM said when the Paulie asked her how she knew more about Paul than him, she replied that reads the correct websites. Bingo. Hey, maybe she turned one mind in the right direction. Good for you RWM if you did.
gekster

(keeps a horse looking straight ahead),
but I know what you mean, and I agree.
And good for RWM also.
Scope

from an article at the Blaze, where Musharaff (sp), former Pakistan President, said he though Perry would run for the Presidency. I usually avoid the Blaze, and especially the comments sections on that site, as they have some of the most off the wall, rude, unintelligent posters that I’ve seen anywhere. It is not a secret that Perry is creating alot of noise, and positive headlines. He hit the polls immediately in double digits, and I guess the Paulies see him as being the biggest threat to their guy. Here is the newest, latest slime against Perry from a poster at the Blaze, who has been a Paulie all along-

Musharraf has close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. As we all know, Muslims are on the verge of imposing Sharia law on this country. Musharraf?s connection with Perry is a well known fact and so his support of Perry comes of no surprise to those who have been reading Al Jazeera and connecting the dots. It?s a money connection -oil mostly- rather than a religious one but we all know oil is thicker than water. Once Perry assumes the Presidency with the help of Muslim population ? which is assumed to now be over 20% of the US population ? and the with threats and bullying methods by the Muslim Brotherhood to intimidate American ? Perry will form an unholy alliance with Muslim countries, particularly Iran, and we?ll be on the precipice of the downfall of western civilization, as AM talk show hosts have predicted.

Frankly, I don?t see anyway out of this, given the power of Muslims. But I?m buying guns, ammo and food. And don?t forget! a gallon per day per person in you household. For a three person household, that?s a 1000 gallons for a year. You might need to buy a tank.”

So, now Perry supports the Muslim Brotherhood, will form an alliance with Muslim Countries, and Iran in particular, and will bring Sharia Law to this country. LOL Otay. I am all for gun rights, and gun ownership. I do believe that there should be laws against the insane and unhinged to own guns like the guy that did that post.

jonnymuffin

Liverals and Ron Paul nutcases… and the crowd that doesn’t think the state should mandate vaccination our teenage daughters…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16948093/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/t/texas-governor-orders-std-vaccine-all-girls/

gekster

Trying to make a pebble into a boulder.
That’s been hashed out already.
Move on.

jonnymuffin

I would never consider voting for someone who thinks that is the proper roll of the state. I happen to take my life and body seriously, sorry that you don’t, and I don’t appreciate people who believe they have the authority to intervene. Doesn’t matter to me if it’s Raw Milk, Michele Obama’s regulating diet, or Rick Perry’s mandating vaccine.

To me the worriesome thing is that he is of the mindset that he can mandate his will (or in that case big pharma’s will) on someone else. I wouldn’t even consider voting for someone with a ‘god complex’ like that. And I don’t understand how someone who says they believe in freedom would consider it.

radicalrighty

Just stay home on election day?
jonnymuffin

regulating people’s lives? The conservative principles I follow promote a free society. Maybe you are ok with a master as long as he/she promises to grant you privleges that you are agreeable too, but I want to be free. I think people like rick perry are what founding father Noah Webster was referring too when he said:
“There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.”
gekster

And you will have to explain your sig line to me.
I ain’t seen any Tea Partiers strap on bombs and blow up innocent people.

trutexan

Hey, it worked for Clinton.
Sluf

You can see his endorsement of the Boot Campaign here.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4717373958_0b92819a08.jpg

http://www.BootCampaign.com

Sluf
averagevoterdotcom

works for me.
a governor is best tix to beat ofraudster.
perry or romney sure to win gop.

Q – who was last NE governor to win gop or WH?
…….my money is on perry to be potus.
Viator

“3. You know Texas as well as anyone. What?s your sense of Rick Perry? Is he going to run? If he does, what are his strengths and weaknesses as a national candidate?

JVL: See above. I don?t know if he will run but my sense of it is that he will ? quite a few of the issues he pushed in the legislative session and in the follow-up special session were clearly designed to seed a run for President.
His assets are that he is a good communicator, appeals to tea party types, and he can point to the strength of the Texas economy. On the liabilities side, however, he did not get the things he introduced for that purpose, and the criticism of the balanced budget he passed is getting rougher and rougher: it is basically as flimsy as Gerry Brown?s balanced budget. Add to that that he never really has done all that well in Texas. He got a 2nd full term with less than 40% of the vote in a 4 way race, and barely avoided a runoff in his own primary against a weakened Senator and an unknown.

Add as well that some of the issues he is associated with are deeply problematic to conservatives, including his record on property rights, increasing taxes, ?pay to play? fundraising and any amount of other raw material for opposition researchers that 10 years as Governor generates.”

http://theiowarepublican.com/2011/ask-the-expert-pollster-jan-van-lohuizen-weighs-in-on-2012-race/

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

“barely avoided a runoff in his own primary against a weakened Senator and an unknown.”

He won a primary against the most popular state-wide elected official, senator Kay Bailer Hutchison, an official who has won with over 60% of the vote in prior races, a Ron Paul-type candidate was the 3rd person in the race and it was assumed up front that the race was KBH’s to lose. She did.

KBH was not and is not ‘weakened’ by an act of God, but by a great campaign by Perry.

Scope

when she had the backing of all the Bushes, Karl Rove, and Dick Cheney. How was she weakened?

Scope

was because in trying to build a highway some properties were necessarily going to be required to be taken by eminent domain. In order to build roadways in every inch of these US, over the past gazillion years, some people unfortunately lose their properties. As long as people are paid a fair value for their property, and it is being taken for roadways, I have no problem with that. The problem with the SC eminent domain decision was that it allowed those with big bucks, wanting to build companies or whatever on those properties, were allowed to be taken by eminent domain. The Connecticut case, where I believe a pharmecutical (sp) company wanted to take adjoining property in order to expand, but never in the end did, was egregious. If they they ever did expand, the case was still decided against the public, and their property rights. There are some valid instances where eminent domain is appropriate.

Here is a good example. The city of Charlottesville Va is a traffic nightmare. For as many years as I can remember, there has been a plan, funded by fed. govt. money more than 20 years ago, to build a 6 mile long bypass around Route 29 running right through the heart of the shopping area in that city. The bypass will mostly go through land with no residents, but in small sections there are some residents. Mostly D controlled City Councils through the years have delayed the project. Now we have John Grisham coming out against the bypass, because it isn’t environmentally responsible. So the only route from above Charlottesville, running clear down to Richmond, is Route 29, and there are no alternate routes, around Charlottesville, for all of the tractor trailer and truck traffic. It is a daily traffic accident nightmare. The City Council, and the Better Business Bureau have been fighting the bypass effort because it would send the traffic away from all the businesses located on that 6 mile section on Route 29.

http://fuckyeahstephenzicker.tumblr.com SteveZickerGOP

I think Rick Perry would be a very strong candidate. I think he would please both the Tea Party-ers and the moderate republicans. I think he would definitely give Obama a run for his money!
packeryman

Perry is a typical politician. He moves in the direction the wind is blowing. He has never really done anything about our Southern border. He is a big proponent of the Trans-Union Highway, part of the system to get rid of borders.He wants to build toll roads and sell them to Spain. He wanted to inoculate all under age girls for cancer(so happened the big pharma company gave him contributions).The guy looks good in a leather jacket doing photo ops on the border if that’s what your looking for in a politician. We have aboard that review school books and they purged the civil rights and labor movement history. He signed into law that a female getting an abortion has to view a sonogram administered by the doctor.These hypocrites were the same ones who don’t want government interference in their medical care. Yea!, this phony politician would be great.

gracie

The person does get the sonogram but they have the OPTION to view it.

The parents of the girls who were to take Gardisal had the OPTION to opt out.
gekster

Tell us who you like instead.
Or are you just a tribble.

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