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Perry now perceived as most electable

Perry and Palin most likely to fight for their beliefs

By: Dan Spencer (Diary)  |  September 12th, 2011 at 01:30 PM  | 

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In the latest CNN poll Governor Perry maintains his lead over the rest of the Republican presidential contenders at 30%.

But the big take away from the new poll is that  Perry is now perceived as the most electable, with 42% saying he has the best chance of beating Obama next year. Only 26% say Romney has the best chance of defeating the president.

Perry – 30%
Romney – 18%
Palin – 15%
Paul – 12%
Cain – 5%
Gingrich – 5%
Bachmann – 4%
Huntsman – 2%
Santorum – 2%

Other interesting findings from the CNN poll include:

  • Perry’s support comes mostly from Republicans who support the TEA Party movement.
  • With Palin excluded, the results are basically the same: Perry 32 percent, Romney 21 percent, Paul 13 percent and all the other candidates in single digits.
  • Perry is seen as the strongest leader in the field by 36%, with Romney second at 21 percent.
  • Perry is seen as the Republican candidate most likely to get the economy moving again by 35%, with Romney in second at 26 percent.
  • Nearly three in ten say that Perry is the candidate who is most likely to fight for his beliefs, with Palin in second place at 23 percent and Romney in a distant tie for fourth at just 11 percent.

The poll was conducted September 9-11 and has an overall sampling error of plus or minus 4.5 percent.

From Right Side Politics.

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  • msctex

    . . .until the moment he is sworn into office.

    • toothpick

      until (and beyond) the moment when the economy roars back and unemployment drops to 5%.

      • acat

        Sounds to me like Perry has understood the wisdom of Art Chance,

        “We’ve been called racists often enough it shouldn’t bother us anymore”.

        Mew

      • msctex

        The ad hominem intelligence attack is the one they save for the ones they fear the most. It is as if a dismissive sneer is how they evince terror.

  • tailfins1959

    Boosting a particular candidate is one thing, belittling another Republican candidate’s supporters is another . That includes Ron Paul’s supporters. He’s just fine as one Congressman among 435. Let’s all work to send Obamao back to Chicago. I prefer Perry, time will tell if he has staying power.

    • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

      ignored and left to die a lonely old man with no access to the media.

      He’s a cancer on the Party. He’s, among lots of other things, a 911 Truther. He is long past deserving to be beaten down and publicly exposed for the hypocrite he is and has been for 20+ years.

  • aeaeren

    if they should lose NY-9. I wonder what the excuses are going to be then? Will they toss Obama overboard and start drowning each other trying to climb out of the sinkin ship or will they all go down with the ship? I am hoping down with the ship :)

    • Scope

      and proclaim that she is there to save the day for the “modern progressives.” Isn’t that what she referred to herself as in the 08 debates? Billary and George Soros will never sit back and allow all their hard work and billions in promoting the progressives to be taken out of the power they exist and breath for.

      • aeaeren

        she isn’t that much better then Obama really, I would hope enough people have had enough with these Democrats to send them packing. Lots of good solid Democrats got wacked last election. Gene Taylor (MS) was not on the kool aid drinking bandwagon as today’s Dems.

        • Praying

          Cut from the same community organizing Chicago-land cloth. She did her college thesis on Saul Alinsky (author of Rules for Radicals, which he dedicated to the original radical, Lucifer.). She even called herself a progressive during the 2008 primary. And she’s no friend of Israel. Be careful what you wish for, people!!

          • aeaeren

            Hillary, I rather pick *gulp* Huntsman then her!

  • victrola

    At the end of the day, most people that answer this poll are just going to pick the candidate they want to win the primary. It would almost be like asking which candidate is the most likable.

    The fact that Romney, Palin, and Ron Paul are all essentially tied on the “electability” question tells you all you really need to know.

    • Aaron Gardner

      As far as what you can derive from the poll… Perry is the leader in pretty much every way shape and form.

      • Scope

        Are you back home yet Aaron, or at least close to getting there?

        • Aaron Gardner

          We are back home, all is well. Still waiting on the final verdict on our vehicles.

          Thanks for asking!

          • Scope

            It’s always great when you get to sleep in your own bed. Good news.

    • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

      based on your comment I’m pretty sure you’re a product of public schools.

      30 = 18 = 12

      Ummmm, no.

      • victrola

        How about being more civil instead of just calling someone stupid?

        The margin of error is listed at 4.5%, so when I say their approximately tied, they are. Of the three I listed, Palin at the middle is at 15%, Romney is at 18% and Paul is at 12%. All are within 4.5% of Palin, my point was that they all are pretty close together, and to say that Sarah Palin is as electable as Mitt Romney is absolutely silly when you have a barrage of polls showing the exact opposite.

        All this poll does is show who the person being asked plans on voting for, not any real analysis about who would do better in a matchup against Barack Obama.

        • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

          Go look it up.

          • victrola

            Your the one that seems clueless about my point.

            Palin is within the margin of error for Romney on the question of electability, the poll is worthless.

  • rememberthealamo

    TPaw endorses Romney. Lol. If TPaw and his endorsement was relevant to the Republican base, he wouldn’t have been the first candidate out of the race. All he did with this endorsement was remove himself from any possibility of serving as ANYTHING in a Perry administration. Well, that may be harsh. He might be considered for White House social secretary. Or gardener.

    • Scope

      is that he had no choice but to drop out after the Straw poll results, as I don’t believe he was raising any money. He won’t be bringing any big fundraisers to Romney, and Romney is losing many of his 08 big donors to Perry.

  • http://www.truenorthradio.com/ rob777

    It does not look like his honest appraisal of Social Security hurt him much.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    a big lead over the other candidates, but everyone could see that his support was a mile wide and an inch deep. He just doesn’t have the real conservative gut reaction to things.

    We waited for someone with some experience, some charisma, and a real feeling of conservatism. Then Perry showed up and really all it took was showing up.

    No one is perfect, and certainly not Perry, but when he talks you get the feeling that his instincts are good, he will move toward the conservative solution more times than not. Plus he has a track record.

  • Goldwater_Conservative

    but I was actually impressed with his performance in the debate. He comes across with conviction in the stances that he takes, while Romney looks like he is willing to change if needed. I think people are looking for someone with conviction in their positions, that was one of the strong suits for Bush.

    • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

      had some problematic positions. Like increasing the power of the government, increasing various entitlement programs, and offering amnesty to illegal aliens.

      We need a person with the courage of his convictions, this time, but we also need someone with the RIGHT convictions.

      I like Perry for that reason. As a resident of Texas I have seen him move genuinely and continuously toward the right over the years.

  • Praying

    please, please please lets not let polls and the media pick our candidate! Perry attended the 2007 Bilderberg conference – conservatives are NOT invited to that event! He favors giving illegal immigrants in-state tuition at Texas universities – his immigration rating with NumbersUSA is a D-. He was in favor of a mandatory vaccination of all 12 year old girls against the virus that causes cervical cancer. He has been a big advocate of the Trans Texas Corridor. Look that one up. It has Agenda 21 written all over it. And a North American Union. I’m more than skeptical of Perry. The only TRUE conservative in the race is Bachmann. I think it’s sad that Palin is perceived as more electable than she is, but it is what it is. I know we are all dying for the next Ronald Reagan, but I just don’t think Perry is the one. Too much establishment, big government background. Just please do your own research!!!!!

    • Darin_H

      mmmmm build-a-burger

    • rightwingmom52

      You advocate doing your own research. It’s been done on Perry by multiple regulars who I can assure you are conservative here at redstate. Go here and read for yourself.

      RickPerry

      If that’s not enough, search “Rick Perry” in the google box at the top of this page and note the diaries that come up. There is a wealth of well-researched, cited diaries on Rick Perry if you’re interested in learning the truth instead of believing what’s being thrown around by Ron Paul’s supporters or the media.

      I like Bachmann (a lot, actually), but she isn’t the “only TRUE conservative” in the race. You do her no favors by making that claim, and in fact only turn others off to her. I sincerely hope that she’s smart enough not to align with Romney in attacking Perry on SS in the debates tonight.

      • Scope

        that both Bachmann and Romney will go ahead and attack Perry for his SS comments, despite the many people, including Rush warning them not to. I don’t know if they really have anything else they could attack on that would make as much of an impact., in order to knock him out of first place.

        Rush had said that if they do go after Perry on the SS issue, then he will go to bat for Perry and support him. Today he came as close as he ever has in possibly endorsing a candidate when he said that he wasn’t endorsing Perry YET. I’ve always ever heard him say that he does not endorse anyone, and I believe the only endorsement he gave was to Bush in 2000. Can you imagine where Perry can go with a Rush endorsement?

        • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

          Was there a time you recall when attacks on a conservative position from the same party ever served in dislodging a front runner?

          In other words, do attacks like that ever work?

          It seems to me that you cannot dislodge a front runner in a republican primary by attacking from the left, just like you could not dislodge a democrat front runner by attacking from the right.

          • Scope

            that came out with the drunk driving ticket that W got right before the election? I don’t remember. It did seem to have some impact.

            Wasn’t it a Republican group, the Swiftboaters, that went after Kerry, and made him look like the lying fool that he is?

            I would suspect that you can in fact dislodge a frontrunner within your own party from attacking from a leftist ideological position, if those attacks are real, provable and credible. The problem with Bachmann and Romney is that they are being dishonest, especially with Romney putting in bold letters on a flyer that Perry wants to “kill” SS, which we know is a lie. Dishonest and decitful attacks look like desperation, and will surely backfire on those two.

          • Scope

            and sent pictures of his weiner to young women, they would remove Perry not only from the top, but from the race period. That will never happen thankfully.

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            this will backfire if they try it.

        • rightwingmom52

          but I’m not interested in a pile on of attacks on any one candidate just for the sake of staying in the game. If there are valid differences of opinion or concrete examples of somebody lying or being hypocritical, by all means, bring it up. Just don’t twist the facts to suit your own purposes. We get enough of that from the left, and I’m sick of it from the right. Probably too much to ask for.

          If the other candidates are willing to attack Perry by twisting facts and risk a Rush endorsement, then they deserve what they get. It’s sure be fun to watch the heads spin if Rush endorsed Perry.

          • Scope

            I would think it would be this year. From the O’s beginning, Rush has been saying he hopes he fails. Rush knows that this will be one of the, if not the year that the elections are so very important. I truly do believe that if Obama remains in office, he will most definitely pull a Chavez, and we will never have any credible elections again.

            I don’t see Romney or Bachmann backing away from their game plan just because of Rush, or the others asking them to back off. We will see if Rush holds true to his word, and I have no reason to believe he won’t. Rush is honest and stands by his word. This is getting verrrrry interesting as Henry Gibson from laughin used to say.

          • luvnthebigsites

            And he only uses it wisely… Kinda like an “earthquake”.

            Can’t wait for the debate….. ;)

    • Goldwater_Conservative

      hell of a case for supporting Perry, I’ll give you that.

      • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

        Eagle Forum is a BuilderBurger franchise operation.

        • acat

          spicey chicken

          Inquiring minds want to know…

          Mew

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            nt

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            videos for cable distribution. The first one will be a group of 50 spotted owls attacking a polar bear in an indoor venue where they fight to the death.

            Interested in making an investment? It’s a better deal than Social Security.

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            how about this for a warm up act. Endangered Orangutangs clubbing baby seals with Elephant tusks.

          • acat

            (looking for investors)

  • smitch61

    It means nothing, they also have included Palin in the list, and to my knowledge she has not announced. I wonder why they would put a non candidate in the polling. Good news for her I guess, third place, and not even in the game yet.

    • Aaron Gardner

      Also, ignoring polls was all the rage in 06. Remind me how that worked out for us?

  • beric

    While I’m not a supporter of any one candidate as of yet, I’ve yet to understand why Erick and others on Redstate continue to simply say “Paul will not be the nominee” and ignore him completely. I actually became slightly more interested in the man as of late, when I noticed the media is actively trying to ignore him (generally a good sign). Could we have a post on Redstate justifying this continual avoidance of him?

    For goodness sakes, Hunstman gets more attention on RS than Paul! And Paul does at least seem to have an appeal to younger voters. As a 21-year older member of that (normally misguided) group myself, I wonder if he as a chance of getting my demographic back on track. I also found it interesting how he’s not depending on pure charisma to carry himself forward, like most other politicians.

    I’d just like an honest and unbiased addressal of the fellow.

    • Scope

      to know that the majority here, including the commentors, and front pagers see Ron Paul as being a mental institution escapee. You have seen all of the comments for and against. There have been many many discussions on Ron Paul and his positions.

      The presidential candidate must have a certain amount of Charisma in order to attract many voters, just ask Tim Pawlenty about that. Ron Paul has none, and even worse, he is rightly seen as a very cranky old guy who always blames America first.

      • beric

        If people as so concerned about him being dangerous, then why I am I not seeing more action and concern about him polling so high?

        I just don’t like ignoring facts, and here is what appears to me to be some wort of bias. Ignoring someone like Huntsman at 1% is fine and understandable. But a 12% number is either of great interest or a cause of alarm.

        • Goldwater_Conservative

          With Paul being so well known now as he is in his third presidential bid, you think 12% is really all that high? He combines the legalize pot, libertarians, and conspiracy theorists alltogether so 12% sounds about right and thats his peak.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            ..

          • beric

            If so, can we now say that 12% of registered R’s are nuts? Or perhaps misguided (and if so, needing to be informed)?

            I’m going into strategic marketing. I’m also a harsh media critic. So I just can’t help but notice holes in data. There are trends here, and something is going on. These number are also far higher than 4 years ago, and even earlier this year.

            I see Paul as becoming a more dangerous contender in this race who must be confronted. We can confront him now, or when he’s up at 20%, and has more college students registering Republican just to vote for him (which is already happening).

          • Scope

            is the day that Perry will be at 80%.

          • acat

            1) Bolted from the GOP to run as a libertarian in 1988 or so, received no electoral votes. Probably before you were born, but .. some have long memories.

            2) Ran in 2008 as a GOP candidate, lost (badly) after the anti-jewish and anti-black articles that ran in his newsletter resurfaced. I literally watched the Ron Paul Re(Love)ution (whatever) signs go up, the true history get covered by Rush and others, and the signs quietly come down again.

            3) Running in 2012 after announcing he won’t be seeking to go back to the House. All the negatives from his prior runs are still out there, and he’s not managed to break 12%.

            Strategically, Ron Paul needed to be “the anti-Romney” in this race, but .. so far, that position has been held by Bachmann (and maybe Cain…) and is now held by Perry. That he’s not polling above 12% at this point indicates he’s done.

            He could pad his retirement account by quitting now and pocketing the money, but he’ll probably stay in just because, well, he’s a bitter old mental patient.

            Mew

          • Scope

            as all of the radicals supporting him even financially will not stop doing money bomb after money bomb.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            You mean the people who flocked to vote for Obama in 08? Oh please.

            The die hard Luap Nor idiots don’t vote if he’s not on the ballot. “Losing” them is not a loss. The guy is a cancer and so are his hard core supporters.

        • Scope

          how weak the field was perceived as being before Perry got in. Paul is polling at 12% in one CNN poll that was released today. For quite a long time Paul couldn’t get ahead of 6% in polling. 12% is not a braggable number, especially when Perry is polling at 30, which is almost 3 times higher than Paul. Paul and his supporters have been going hard and heavy after Perry since before he got into the race. They have flooded every website, and every article on Perry with every conceivable smear and attack they can come up with, at times even lying about Perry or his record. The more Paul and his supporters attack, the higher Perry goes in the polls.

    • audax

      which is the higher number? 88% or 12%? Sounds like he is DOWN at 12% to me……

      • beric

        to how 12% is much higher than we’ve yet seen, and perhaps worthy of greater concern.

    • Aaron Gardner

      We don’t need to have this discussion again.

      • Scope

        LOL

  • bobguzzardi

    No one disputes that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. Because it is a legalized, government run Ponzi scheme does not make it a Ponzi scheme any the less.

    “Hot Rhetoric” or “Refreshingly Honest”? That’s the argument, not about the substance of what he said, but how he said it.

    Rick Perry said what had to be said and what many, many others were thinking.

    My daughter, a Texan, asked me “Why do I have to pay for something I won’t get?”

    Rick Perry’s first hurdle is the namby pamby Republican Establishment.

    Rick Perry can win Pennsylvania.

    • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

      Rick’s having received the endorsement from Jindal counterpoints T-Paw’s endorsement of Mitt; establishment vs. new-GOP…which is going to resonate?

  • pantera

    Palin’s at 15% without campaigning.
    If she was involved in debates I’d bet that would change as well as a big uptick in viewership.

  • publious

    The battle for America is coming…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro1Yjk1P-RY