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Romney refused to take Obama’s immigration bait

Mitt Romney has outfoxed the Obama Campaign and its main stream media allies.

As explained by Breitbart’s John Nolte, Obama’s extralegal scheme to grant amnesty/immunity to certain “younger” illegal aliens was a clever attempt set to trap Romney in a treacherous catch-22 position:

This was the plan:

1. Obama releases the news on Friday in order to affect the Sunday talk shows. (Team Obama also knew Romney would be on “Face the Nation” with their water-carrier Bob Schieffer).

2. As they always do, the Sunday talk shows comply with White House strategy by making Obama’s compassion and political brilliance The Big Story. This is also a move to set up the narrative for the coming week regardless of  how Romney answers the repeal question.

3. Regardless of how he answers the question, Romney enters a world of media-created hurt for the following week.

Obama’s media allies did their part:

  • On CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Bob Schieffer asked Romney over and over and over again whether he would repeal Obama’s extralegal amnesty/immunity scheme.
  • CNN’s Jack Cafferty asked, “Why is Mitt Romney refusing to answer questions on Pres. Obama’s new immigration policy?”
  • On MSNBC’s Martin Bashir show, The Guardian’s Ana Marie Cox, Democratic strategist Julian Epstein and The Hill’s Karen Finney went on and on about “Romney’s non-answer.”

We could list many more, but I think you get the idea.

Of course Romney did in fact have a response to Obama’s scheme. On Friday, Romney said the problem of young illegal immigrants requires a long term solution and Obama’s scheme will make a long term solution more difficult to achieve.

“I believe the status of young people who come here through no fault of their own is an important matter to be considered and should be solved on a long term basis so they know what their future would be in this country. I think the action the president took today makes it more difficult to reach that long-term solution because an executive order is of course just a short term matter. It can be reversed by subsequent presidents.”

Romney also explained on “Face the Nation” that Obama’s extralegal scheme is a stopgap measure for a long-term problem driven in “large part” by politics:

First of all, we have to secure the border. We need to have an employment verification system to make sure that those that are working here in this country are here legally and then with regards to these kids who were brought in by their parents through no fault of their own, there needs to be a long-term solution so they know what their status is. This is something Congress has been working on, and I thought we are about to see some proposals brought forward by Senator Marco Rubio and by Democrat senators, but the President jumped in and said I’m going to take this action. He called it a stopgap measure.

[. . .]

He was President for the last three and a half years, did nothing on immigration. Two years, he had a Democrats’ House in Senate, did nothing of permanent or– or long-term basis.

As for the oft repeated repeal question, Romney addressed that as well:

Well, it would be overtaken by events, if you will, by virtue of my putting in place a long-term solution with legislation which creates law that relates to these individuals, such that they know what their status is going to be.

In other words, Romney proposes to do the truly right thing — get Congress to pass legislation to legally address the problem of youngsters made illegal aliens by their parents.

This is a good time to remember that Obama announced his new amnesty/immunity scheme in a desperate attempt to change the subject from his “doing fine” reelection message, to gain favor with the Latino electorate unhappy with Obama’s ongoing backdoor amnesty program, and to stop the growing popularity Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida’s DREAM Act light.

Contrary to White House senior adviser David Plouffe’s claim that Obama’s amnesty/immunity scheme was not political, there is no doubt that it was indeed political. After all, there is even video of Obama saying, less than six months ago, that he has no authority to enact such a change in immigration law. You can watch the video here.

Unfortunately, Romney was proved correct about Obama making a long term solution more difficult. Rubio has announced he has abandoned his DREAM Act light legislation, at least until after the election, because it would be hard to argue with fellow lawmakers when they say, “Why are we going to need to do anything on this now? It has been dealt with. We can wait until after the election.”

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  • Viet71

    Score one for Romney.

    • wennejunk

      And thinking many moves ahead of team Obama so they can keep them off-balance.

      • teenytom

        I think he fell right into Obama’s trap. Obama still gets the credit for doing this thing, and Romney’s response is critiquing the process in which it was done? That’s not going to resonate. Instead the story is now that Romney won’t even say if he’d uphold the measure or not if President.

        I think they should have immediately pounced on the fact that Obama just copied Rubio. But they don’t pay me for my thoughts. They don’t pay me anything!

    • reggie1

      First, I do agree it was a trap. And I do agree that Romney was right not to throw up a plan to compete against Obama’s executive action, simply because Bob Shi^!^er asked him.

      But I think a bigger opportunity was missed, and bigger opportunities continue to be missed, by not rejecting the premise and throwing it back in their face.

      e.g. Respond with the main point that Obama just gummed up the works with his political gamesmanship. A budding bipartisan coalition that would have backed a Dream Act is now in disarray as the left is forced to defend Obama’s imperial actions.

      e.g. Call Obama out on his claim that Republicans have favored the point of his executive order. That is out of context without also including border protection.

      e.g. Point out that Obama’s action is not a law, so what can undocumented immigrants really rely on? Obama just threw them under the bus for a couple of votes.

      Reject the premise, first, then easily formulate a response that undermines any relevance to Obama’s latest attack.

  • http://www.tooncesthecat.wordpress.com tooncesthecat

    Once again Obama proved that he will do anything, include abrogate the law (remember DOMA) to change the subject from the economy. Once again Romney proved that he is disciplined and stays on his economic message.

  • Flagstaff

    They need to go back where they came from. At gunpoint.

    Anybody remember Elian Gonzalez?

    • David123

      Great Point!

  • checkmate2012

    his responses during the Primary debates. We don’t need him to flip-flop on this important issue, especially for the base.

  • Flagstaff

    “Children” under age thirty get a two-year reprieve. Are we still going to deport their parents? We are now “breaking up families”? That’s sure to encourage them to be good citizens.

  • Kyle-MI

    And I think his highlighting of long-term solutions is exactly the right tone. We need solutions in place where we don’t have to revisit this issue again and again and again every couple of decades.

  • AceInTX

    …and we all get to cheer him for how brilliant he is for being a political coward!!

    Are you serious Dan?

    THIS is why I was scared to death of Romney as the Republican nominee.

    Romney is not going to condemn Obama for this extra constitutional action. Nowhere do you…or will you EVER…. hear Romney go after Obama for his America hating, Constitution trashing power grabs because he plans to maintain it and codify it into law as President…..

    And now that the precedent has been set….don’t believe for a second he won’t use it at some point in the future…and of course…we’ll all be expected to be good soldiers and cheer him on then too…We’ll be told it’s for a Conservative reason so we should just shut up and go along…and the Constitution will once again take a bipartisan raping all in the name of sticking it to the other party….

    Yet another example of Bushes reasoning that we have to destroy the Constitution in order to save it…

    WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!!!!

    Can someone PLEASE TELL ME what is so freaking brilliant about doing what Democrats would do while patting yourself on the back for foiling and confusing the press and the Democrats….and avoiding a fight….while the Democrats end up moving the ball further down the road in the direction they want to go while acting like they’re disappointed because they didn’t get to spring their brilliantly conceived trap?

    The Dems and the Press still get to keep Obama’s new power grab without paying a price price because the Republicans and our standard bearer are too feckless to call them on it…don’t they?

    The Dems and the Press still get the Republican nominee saying he wants to give blanket amnesty to millions of illegals….don’t they? (I don’t give a hoot in HXXX how they got here)

    For all his viscous attacks on Bachman, Cain, Santorum and every other candidate who ran against him in the primaries about their supposed pro amnesty positions….we get to watch the incredible stretchy Willard twist himself into a position where he will do everything he falsely condemned his primary opponents of WANTING to do.

    And he’ll expect the rest of us suckers be good soldiers and cheer him on as he pees down our leg all the while telling us its raining!

    Yeah he wants to secure the border first….or at least he “SAYS” he does….but only as a prelude to legalizing and rewarding every alien who has come here by spitting in our faces and crapping on our laws with full blown citizenship!

    Doubt me?

    From Dan’s own cut and Paste job on Romney’s “brilliant” strategy of avoiding a fight with Obama by doing what Obama wants to do anyway:

    I believe the status of young people who come here through no fault of their own is an important matter to be considered and should be solved on a long term basis so they know what their future would be in this country.

    This is something Congress has been working on, and I thought we are about to see some proposals brought forward by Senator Marco Rubio and by Democrat senators,

    and the coup de gras:

    Well, it would be overtaken by events, if you will, by virtue of my putting in place a long-term solution with legislation which creates law that relates to these individuals, such that they know what their status is going to be.

    This is all code for Amnesty….yeah they cover it with the “Secure the border first” line…but you can bet the bank….if Romney and the party establishment who backed him could give blanket amnesty to illegals while making us all believe they really are securing the border…we’d be sporting a new set of bus tread tattoos with the next minute!

    I still can’t believe…after the crap sandwich we were served up with in 2008 that we’re here 4 years later with the same crap sandwich…only we’ve added a pickle or two and some ketchup and mustard to make it got down easier this time.

    • streiff

      the law clearly gives the authority to administer immigration programs to the Secretary of Homeland Security. You might not like it (I don’t) and think it is politically unwise as it totally poisons the well on immigration (I do) but I think it is ridiculous to call this “unconstitutional” when it clearly isn’t.

      I thought all the big brains out there agreed that Romney should focus solely on the economy. Did I miss something? Because it seems to me that this issue is a 100% sure fire loser in the general election, there is no upside to arguing to deport teens who came here with their parents.

      • aesthete

        One could argue that the enumerated power in question is naturalization, and that this power is vested in the legislature — and that refusing to implement a legislature-approved bill is a dereliction of duty.

        Still, this one seems like a stretch to me.

        • streiff

          the fact is that over time the Congress has delegated a stunning amount of power to the various executive branch agencies because they were too busy doing heaven knows what to actually exercise oversight. This is what happens. The EPA considers a patch of wet dirt in rural Idaho to be part of an inland waterway and we’re surprised at this?

        • AceInTX

          to me…the fact that the chief exective is refusing to abide by a law that has been placed on the books through constitutional means….and will not enforce a law passed by the Legislature…and signed by a prior chief executive is clearly and obviously Unconstitutional.

          The President is not above the law….

          My dooms day scenario is this…if this is allowed to stand…and every Executive has the power to ignore laws passed by the representatives of the people….do we have a representative republic any more?

      • Bill S

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      • AceInTX

        I think the issues this nation faces are moral as well as economic….and I think we’re leaving too many arguments on the table that can be used to beat the Democrats.

        You make a good point….where the un-Constitutional claims are concerned but I think a case can be made…first of all…that Obama has set himself above the law in refusing to enforce the law….When the Legislative branch passes a law….and it is signed into law by the Executive….or it becomes law because it is Constitutionally overridden….does the Executive branch have a right to ignore that law?

        AND if the Executive refuses to administer, observe, and enforce a law passed by the legislative branch which the Constitution forbids….is that not an un-Constitutional act?

        I would say emphatically that it is….if it weren’t then why was there a provision placed in the Constitution that provides for a law to be passed by the legislative branch over the objections of the Executive? As such….doesn’t the Constitution at least imply that if the Legislative Branch passes a law that does not require the President’s signature the Executive is bound by the law…and the Constitution to enforce it?

        Am I that far off base?

        • streiff

          of them make a case for Romney going medieval over this.

          This is a terrible political issue for him in an election hear and there is no reason he should give any response beyond what he has: that this should be the subject of legislation. He can fix it if he wins. It would be a shame to fight the election on terrain chosen by and favorable to Obama.

          BTW, your Constitutional theory might have been valid at one time. Since the 1930s it hasn’t been how the country operates.

          • AceInTX

            If we let every president pick and choose what laws he will direct executive agencies to enforce…or which one’s to outright ignore….have we not crossed the Rubicon and are we not clearly on the path…if not have we not placed the emperor on his thrown and turned the judicial and legislative branches into nothing more than debating societies?

          • checkmate2012

            same case.

            I read an easy example. The police can decide to give someone a ticket or not for going a few miles above the speed limit. The cop can not change the speed limit.

            O has decided to ignore laws he doesn’t like, in this case a blanket deportation deferral for a certain population. This is called breaking the laws and not following his Contitiutional duty to uphold the laws.

          • aesthete

            but there are some practical reasons that Romney is not going to address the issue.

            1) Policymaking by the executive through the Cabinet or AG has been standardized and established as “the way we do things” since the 30s, when FDR decided that even the rubber-stamp committee they laughingly called a legislature moved too slowly for his vision. Directly countermanding a law issuing from the legislature is more recent, but it’s become increasingly common practice for Presidents since the practice got started under JFK/Eisenhower. You could argue that this isn’t the way things should be (and I’d agree with you), but…

            2) Romney is explicitly running as the CEO-in-chief — the guy who makes all the big calls, writes all the legislation we need, and makes the train run on time through the power of synergy, or American Exceptionalism?, or MomNApplePie (or whatever). He’s already staked out several areas where he’s going to unilaterally fashion policy through EOs and such, and a few where he thinks that executive privilege overrides Congress. Romney isn’t going to sabotage his own campaign image for what he perceives to be a non-issue. Finally…

            3) Tackling this issue takes guts. It takes guts and principles to cut your own power and fight for Constitutional government. I don’t know about you, but when I think of Romney guts and principles don’t come to mind.

            Bottom line — attacks of this sort don’t work for Romney and the campaign and self-image he’s perpetuating. A more eloquent version of Rick Perry, or some Constitutionalist type? Sure, but don’t expect miracles from Romney. You’re just going to disappoint yourself.

          • AceInTX

            you can spin it however you want….

            I am supporting him…and I am rooting for him to win….but I don’t see how he wins by being a coward and playing it safe….from his VP pick to this issue…to any number of other issues…..he is playing it safe….or in the case of his VP pick he is rumored to be playing it safe….and I don’t think you win playing defense.

            You can make the case that we need to come up with an answer to this while making the point that placing the president above the law isn’t the way to do it….but there I go thinking the best and brightest in the Republican Party are capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time…

            As for your suggestions….What I read from your posts is that you’re OK with an imperial presidency where the POTUS writes the laws through exexutive order so long as it’s a Republican President….

            Well I ain’t buying……We have Representatives to make the laws…and the idea that the president can circumvent the will of the people and their elected representatives with Executive Orders, Presidential signing statements and by just acting like inconvenient laws don’t exists means the death of this country and puts us on a path toward a despotic dictatorship and I don’t care which party holds the reigns in such an arrangement…..I’m opposed to it….PERIOD

          • checkmate2012

            should make a strong moral case that appeals to all Americans based on our Constitution. If he really wants to win votes, he should announce that he won’t sign any Bills that are un-Constitutional.

            He could box Obama in on this immigration alone as it’s not fair to the rest of us or those that got here the legal way.

            Immigration laws are to protect Americans from foreign invaders, not to protect the pseudo rights or feelings of illegals. Our country can’t survive if we don’t protect our borders and keep our American spirit alive.

          • aesthete

            I protested the Imperial Presidency when it happened under Bush, Clinton, and Obama, and continue to do so (for all the good it does).

            Romney will be a terrible President who continues the awful status quo, for this and other reasons. I’m just pointing out that really, Obama’s actions, while politically craven, are in this instance not all that different from the SOP in the last 20 years, that Romney has no intention of changing this, and that *for the campaign he’s trying to run*, it wouldn’t fit. Again, I’m not crazy about the tack that Romney’s taking (in essence, he’s running as a status quo “Republicans run big government better” type). I think this is to our detriment — but since when has the American electorate or governate cared what I think?

            IOW, I’m explaining the “why”, not defending it.

          • AceInTX

            I’m with ya 100% based on your post here

          • streiff

            all the really has to do to beat Obama, as things stand now, is to say “I’m not Obama.” It is exactly the flip side of where Obama was in 08 where he won by being “not Bush.”

            I think Romney should, and will, make an issue of regulatory overreach. Fighting this decision is just dumb. It only covers a handful of people, it is emotionally charged, and he can change it when he’s elected.

          • AceInTX

            We lose if we don’t fight anyway….so why not fight. Reagan never shied away from stating his principles….and he didn’t win by letting the press scare him into letting the Dems do whatever the HXXX they wanted without calling them on it….he made is arguments and people ended up agreeing with him because he was able to appeal to people’s reason…

            by just ignoring this…and acting like it’s no big deal…Obama get’s away with it….the Dems get what they want…Romney loses with the base who aren’t happy about his craven cowardice….and the Constitution takes another on in the posterior…

            Regardless….whether Romney is a coward or not is secondary to my horror at the front page of Red State being used to proclaim him a hero for his duplicity and cowardice

          • barleycorn

            Your words are overly harsh.

            Romney is by nature a moderate in the mold of the Bushes but he’s a conservative when compared to anyone the Democrats have ran for President since the 19th Century.

            On basic economics I think he will be the most conservative president since Ronald Reagan.

            I doubt seriously that Romney has ever pandered (look the word up). He is a standard issue politician who is trying to appeal to many diverse interests in an extremely important election.

            Is he a “phoney”? Maybe in a strictly political context but then not any more so than 98% of all people running for office. “Phoney” men don’t usually stay married to one woman for 40+ years and raise 5 sons to responsible manhood.

            I see no evidence that he’s a coward. He plays by the rules as he understands them and he took great financial risk to make his fortune. Anyone who thinks “private equity” is some sort of easy money scheme should try it sometime. A coward wouldn’t dream of taking over a floundering Olympics and likewise a coward couldn’t turn them into a wild success. He ran as a Republican in the most liberal of states and governed conservatively enough to make his re-election a dicey proposition. He’s no William Weld.

            My lack of wild excitement about Romney is well documented on this site but I must object to defamatory and inaccurate terms thrown around like confetti

          • AceInTX

            Romney has a reputation as a flip flopper?…why? His history is full of instances where he says one thing to one crowd only to go somewhere and say the exact opposite to another crowd….it’s how he got a reputation as a flip flopper in the first place….if that isn’t pandering….tell me what is?

            and a Phoney?….Once again….he has a history pretending to be something he clearly is not….I’ve already cited in my post above where he has attacked his Republican Primary opponents for wanting to grant Amnesty to Children of Illegals….if I remember correctly…he went after Rick Perry hammer and tongue over the issue…and now he’s singing the same tune Perry was singing when Romney was beating the crap out of him.

            If that’s not a Phoney…what is?

            Defamatory and inaccurate?

            Inflammatory maybe….but defamatory and inaccurate?

            Hardly!

          • barleycorn

            Do you consider yourself a “rude person” Ace? I would imagine that you don’t. But are you willing to claim you’ve never been rude? Ever? I doubt you would make that claim.

            If by “pander” you mean he “tells people what they want to hear” then name me a single politician who doesn’t do that to one degree or another. ALL politicians pander if that is the definition you have in mind. Politicians must accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative. No politician with any sense at all would march into a Garden Club filled with blue haired old ladies and announce that he thinks plants and flowers are boring.

            If you think that it makes a politician “phoney” to first criticize an opponent’s position and then later adopt it then again all politicians are “phoney”. Its an absurd definition.

            And failure of a politician to take the position you personally think he should take does not make him a coward.

            There are reasonable and useful grounds on which to criticize Mitt Romney but a fusillade of random bile leftover from the primaries is not helpful.

      • checkmate2012

        neither DHS nor the Pres. has the power to give a blanket exemption from deportation to a group of people nor can he carve out parts of laws that he doesn’t like. Seperation of powers applies so he can’t write laws yet we have seen he’s blatant disregard for enforcing the laws he doesn’t like (DOMA, GM & bankruptcy laws, defy the Judge’s ruling to lift the ban on Gulf drilling, etc.).

        Also, the policy, rule, edict whatever you want to call, also gives provisions for those that a judge has ruled that an illegal must be deported to keep fighting to stay here illegally. So now the rule is overturning court case rulings.

        From DHS:

        If an individual who is about to be removed by ICE believes he or she satisfies the eligibility criteria for the new process, what steps should he or she take to ensure his or her case is reviewed before
        removal? Individuals who believe they can demonstrate that they satisfy the eligibility criteria and are about to be removed should immediately contact either the Law Enforcement Support Center?s hotline.

        There are more insane rules that make no sense, but here’s another glaring one. It’s one thing for ICE to decide to keep someone here, but to tell CBP to turn a blind eye is not following the rule of law that illegals must go thru the proper LEGAL process:

        If an individual who satisfies the eligibility criteria is encountered by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) or ICE, will he or she be placed into removal proceedings?
        This policy is intended to allow ICE and CBP to focus on priority cases. Pursuant to the direction of the Secretary of Homeland Security, for individuals who satisfy the eligibility criteria, CBP or ICE should exercise their discretion to prevent them from being apprehended, placed into removal proceedings, or removed. If individuals, including individuals in detention, believe they were placed into removal proceedings in violation of this policy, they should contact either the Law Enforcement Support Center?s
        hotline.

        Read this if you want more info-
        http://aila.org/content/fileviewer.aspx?docid=40156&linkid=248352

        • AceInTX

          Bravo

          • checkmate2012

            and then I saw this- Thanks! We’re on the same TX wavelength :)

    • acat

      McCain wanted to be the nominee.

      Romney wants to run the big machine.

      Pick a path, Ace.

      Mew

      • AceInTX

        I just don’t think one wins a fight by refusing to fight….

        It’s really as simple as that and I won’t apologize for pointing out raw…naked cowardice when I see it…and refusing to cheer it like a good soldier

        • tnfriendofcoal101368

          won a country by refusing to fight or more accurately by refusing to fight on his enemies terms. Washington innately knew that the only chance his nation had was to keep his army in the field. He only engaged on fields favorable to that objective. He knew outnumbered with a superior trained force, his best option was to attack in skirmishes and avoid large battles. Cornwallis and Howe were of the European school where armies had it out on the field until you captured the enemies capitol and then you sued for peace. Washington scoffed and when the British captured New York, Philadelphia became the capitol, capture Philly..heck then New York would work. Washington pulled this shell game until he caught Cornwallis in a bottle, then he gave him a tail kicking. Likewise as a Texan, you might have heard of Sam Houston. He won a state by refusing to fight, ran across Texas with Santa Ana chasing him until he was able to encircle Santa Ana at San Jacinto. Here is the point George Washington and Sam Houston were both called cowards for refusing to fight on their enemies terms by behind their backs and to their face, but history doesn’t remember them as cowards because they won. This is a fight Obama wants, mainly because he doesn’t want to engage on the economy. Romney has been successful in this campaign because he has dictated the terms of engagement.

          • AceInTX

            Gates Maybe….but Washington….Please.

            Did Washington engage in strategic retreats? yes…but he was quick to attack when the enemy left him an opening…I would place him with Gates who was overly cautious and who’s only victory of note was at Saratoga where he did everything to keep the victory from happening by keeping General Arnold in his tent only to have Arnold defy his orders and rally the continental forces to attack Burgoyne’s British regulars at the fulcrum point and won the day that Gates almost lost with his overly cautious nature.

            THAT in a nutshell is Willard Mitt Romney…he’s a strutting peacock who is only capable of ruffling his plumage while playing it safe and playing not to lose rather than fighting to win.

          • tnfriendofcoal101368

            By meeting Cornwallis on the field of Cornwallis’ choosing. The delays at Saratoga allowed for Stark’s win at Bennington which were a huge factor in the eventual win at Saratoga. Gates won at Saratoga so I don’t think that makes the point you want to make. Though, I will agree it was Benedict Arnold’s finest hour. Romney fights on the battlefield of his choosing, this is called winning and as acat says more with much fewer words below, you see what you want to see because I can assure you Chicago, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, and Rick Perry would say, your wrong if you say Romney won’t engage. Even if this issue is important to you, it isn’t to a majority of the electorate (and of those with whom it is important a percentage are on the other side).

          • AceInTX

            Gates Victory was as a result of General Arnold’s quick thinking and his brilliant and bold field command…Gates was an overly cautious process oriented General who lost battle after battle by playing it safe and playing not to lose rather than fighting to win….if Gates had his way…General Arnold would have stayed in his tent…Burgoyne would have broken the line and the British would have won the day.

            Washington on the other hand was a brilliant tactician winning with bold strokes and by out maneuvering his opposition. Romney isn’t a Pimple on the late General Washington’s Backside and I think the comparison is a joke….

            Look…I’m not writing all this to beat up Romney I just have a problem with the idea that he’s a hero for refusing to call Obama on his power grabs….Obama is writing a narrative for him with his power grabs from selectively enforcing laws on immigration to exerting executive privilege over Justice Department Documents pertaining to the murder of a Federal law enforcement officer to half a dozen other issues where he is using power never intended for the cheif executive…and Romney is refusing to help paint that narrative in peoples minds and solidify it for voters who will pull the lever in November.

            He’s playing not to lose….not playing to win

          • gekster

            How does what you’ve been posting help get Obama out of office.
            Just what have you posted can help to defeat Obama.
            Just a question.

          • aesthete

            as well as alerting us to potential flaws in a Romney administration.

            We can operate on more than one level — and we’ll have to. Believe you me, the “how does this help Romney” squalls won’t stop once he gets in office.

          • gekster

            And until that happens, who cares bout the rest.
            Win this battle, then concetrate on the next.
            But in the meantime. bash Romney all you can, and earn the name of dufus, because in no way your posts go to eliminate Obamawhich is the primary goal.
            dufus

          • tnfriendofcoal101368

            is we have to get to a Romney administration because behind door #2 is 4 more years of the reign of King Barack, First of His Name, Dogeater. Those are the choices; I’ll worry about holding Romney’s feet to the fire when he is elected. As Andrew Breitbart said “there are only two paths”. One thing I won’t do is wake up November 7th and have the continuance of the Obama Reign on my conscience.

          • AceInTX

            I’ve gone further into he weeds than I intended in bashing Romney for this….my main criticism isn’t that Romney isn’t in full attack mode and that he’s a crap candidate…that’s a given….I just don’t think we should make him a hero…and sing his praises for being feckless in refusing to simply state the truth….

            As for the…How does my argument help get Obama out of office….I’ve been at this a while….and I heard the same sniveling argument from all the McCain sycophants in 2008 when I made the arguments that McCain was losing the election my refusing to engage Obama….so….forgive me if I’m not impressed with the argument you make that we should ignore Romney’s warts and mistakes because criticizing him is tantamount to working for Obama’s reelection…

            I call BS!!!

        • acat

          See your eye doctor.

          Mew

          • AceInTX

            I believe the status of young people who come here through no fault of their own is an important matter to be considered and should be solved on a long term basis so they know what their future would be in this country.

            That is the very same thing he pounded Perry for stating….

            AHHH I hat Hypocrisy!!!!

          • acat

            Look, I know you’re bright enough to get this – presidential elections are a brawl, not a boxing match. Romney doesn’t have to do all the punching himself, Obama certainly isn’t going to throw most of the Dem hits …

            Romney has been pretty consistent at turning the discussion back to the economy, every time Obama wants to go off on a tangent. Gays? Romney brought it back to the economy. Bain? Economy.

            Punches thrown at Obama have come from – and will continue to come from – sources other than the Romney campaign, just as punches against Kerry came from the Swift Boat Vets, and punches against Bush came from Dan Rather’s throbbing memo…

            Romney released a statement echoing Rubio’s statement that Obama’s decision makes a resolution harder to get to. There’s no point in Romney doing much more than that, this is an issue where – as you should also know – we can’t reach consensus on Red State, let alone in the whole GOP, eh?

            I don’t see the point in Romney chasing down Obama’s fly balls instead of taking the fight back to the economy .. and beating Obama senseless with it.

            Mew

          • acat

            Romney speaks to Hispanics.

            Romney talks *specifically* to Obama’s pander, calls it what it is, and makes the same points that have been on his campaign web site since he went after Perry… but he does so in the context of the economy.

            Again, you may not like that Romney is our candidate .. but your continuing assertions that “he’s not fighting” are simply .. cow patties.

            Mew

    • ghostship

      A lot of conservatives did it during the Bush years of “compassionate conservatism” to explain his big government and big spending as smart political moves.

      I fully expect that should Romney win then we’ll be subject to a lot more of it. After all, it’s a tough thing to swallow that while Romney is a better choice than Obama (heck, a random stranger is better than Obama) he’s not that much better. It’s either spin everything in a positive light or face up to the fact that at best all we can hope for is four years of Dem-lite.

      • aesthete

        With a Romney Presidency, we will have the dubious honor of seeing the usual cast of catamites and retainers entertaining Romney’s various missteps as hallmarks of both conservatism and smart politicking. You will see them on the front page of National Review, the Weekly Standard, and (dare I say it?) RedState.

        Set your expectations low and keep your eyes open, for even these expectations are likely to be dashed if you’re paying attention. On the plus side, paying attention and not tuning out gives us a chance, by making it so that the base might have more moments of revolt and activism when Romney decides to give up the ghost.

  • skip1982

    is a bigger Dem bootlicker than even Keith Olbermann! At least Olbermann only had 1 lefty sycophant on at a time instead of 3.

  • unsk

    For all the sophistry of those trying to excuse the issue, the President does not get the right to choose what portion of a law he wants to enforce. Period.

    This is a very serious Constitutional issue. We cannot let this issue go. We cannot let the Left dictate what laws they will choose to enforce or not, or pretty soon there will effectively be no Rule of Law. Romney should have knocked this out of the park, but he instead chose to duck this grave Constitutional issue for politically correct reasons. He didn’t even have to discuss the merits of Buraq’s immigration policies, for this really is an issue of Constitutional Law, not immigration. Buraq’s Executive Order is only a pretext for yet another assault on the Constitution.

    Romney is dead to me now. No way I ‘m am voting for this loser after this betrayal.

    We know that Buraq is an agent of what Brad DeLong calls the Special Interest State. The question was whether Romney was or not. With this ducking, Willard has proven himself to be afraid of defying the Special Interests and unable or unwilling to defend the Constitution. A guy who won’t defend the Constitution, particularly on such a substantial issue as this , simply should not be President.

    All you guys excusing Willard’s behavior are completely nuts. The base will be roundly and decidedly pissed, and will not turn out for this weak sister. Every Republican Presidential Candidate in my lifetime who has not inspired the base, and that includes, Ford, Bush I (the second time), Dole and Mc Cain has lost badly. That will happen again despite Obama’s treasonous and disastrous record.

    • gekster

      Then leave this site if that’s the way you feel.

      You have nothing to contribute.
      And by the way, our nominee, that Mitt fellow, is exactly right in his statement.

    • Bill S

      We won’t be needing any further comments from you, then.

    • Bill S

      After checking with the judges, we’ve determined that your contributions are no longer needed here. Ciao.

    • APA Guy

      …and I see you are too…adios ghost.

  • mikeymike143

    the more i see of romney, the happier i get that he is the nominee

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