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Obama cuts Medicare more than Romney would

To borrow a phrase from President Reagan, there they go again.

As soon as Mitt Romney announced Congressman Paul Ryan as his vice presidential running mate the Democrats again started with their debunked and discredited MediScare campaign. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee called Ryan “the architect of the Republican plan to kill Medicare” in a fundraising message sent by DCCC Executive Director Robby Mook. A false charge that the left-leaning Politifact called the 2011 “lie of the year.”

As pointed out by The Washington Examiner’s Joel Gehrke, Politifact rebuked Democrats for engaging in such scare tactics:

“A complicated and wonky subject with life-or-death consequences, health care is fertile ground for falsehoods,” the fact checker said. “The Democratic attack about ‘ending Medicare’ was a pervasive line in 2011 that preyed on seniors’ worries about whether they could afford health care.”

The Democrats didn’t stop there. Obama spokesman Jim Messina said Ryan’s plan “would end Medicare as we know it by turning it into a voucher system, shifting thousands of dollars in health care costs to seniors.” That is no more true than the DCCC’s MediScare claim. As explained by Avik Roy, the Wyden-Ryan plan would only apply to Americans younger than 55 years of age, and gives those younger individuals the option of remaining in the traditional Medicare program, or choosing a comparable private-sector insurance plan.

On CNN’s “State Of The Union,” Senior Advisor to Obama David Axelrod said the bipartisan plan authored by Democratic Sen. Ron Wyden and Republican Rep. Paul Ryan  for reforming Medicare would put Medicare into a death spiral. Here is a transcript of the exchange between Crowley and Axelrod:

CROWLEY: “You describe him as extreme, so I want to take you back to a December 15th, Wall Street Journal op-ed which the Congressman wrote along with Senator Ron Wyden, who is seen as a member of your party, and seen certainly as a moderate to liberal Democrat, and the two of them together came up with a plan to help save Medicare, and they wrote: ‘our plan would strengthen traditional Medicare by permanently maintaining it as a guaranteed and viable option for all of the nation’s retirees.’ So this extreme plan has been signed on to and one of the authors of it is a member of your own party, so why is that extreme?”

AXELROD: “Well, I just disagree with Senator Wyden on this, and Congressman Ryan and so have most of the experts who have looked at this and who’ve said that the way that the thing is constructed, that Medicare would be in a death spiral under this plan, and that ultimately it would raise costs on seniors by thousands of dollars.”

You can watch the exchange here.

Anticipating such bogus claims from the Democrats Romney promised to “preserve and protect Medicare and Social Security” during his speech announcing Ryan as his vice presidential running mate.

Both ObamaCare and Ryan’s plan make changes to Medicare: ObamaCare via of government rationing, and Ryan via direction of privatization. The ObamaCare law creates a new panel, called the Independent Payment Advisory Board, which will be composed of 15 unelected government officials. They will be charged with rationing care to seniors, primarily by underpaying doctors and hospitals.

Obama has cut Medicare more than Romney and Ryan would. According to the most recent estimates from the Congressional Budget Office, ObamaCare will reduce Medicare spending by more than $700 billion between 2013 and 2022, relative to prior law. These cuts directly affect current retirees. By contrast, both the Romney and Wyden-Ryan plans only affect retirees younger than 55.

The approach advocated by Ryan and Romney gives seniors more control over their own health dollars, allowing them to choose the plan that provides the best value for their money.

It’s no wonder why the Romney campaign is looking forward to a fact-based debate about reforming Medicare. A campaign spokesman told me:

“The Romney campaign relishes this fight. There is only one person in this race who has already cut Medicare for seniors, and that is President Obama. ObamaCare cut Medicare for America’s seniors by $700 billion. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan have a bipartisan plan to strengthen Medicare for today and tomorrow’s seniors. Obama’s campaign has accused Mitt Romney of committing crimes and killing people, and now they have turned their smear campaign to Paul Ryan. They have lost all credibility.”

You would think that after the Obamacrats passed the ever unpopular ObamaCare, which robs Medicare of more than $716 billion to fund ObamaCare, they wouldn’t want to focus on the $700 billion Medicare cuts. You would be wrong. On Face the Nation this morning, Stephanie Cutter called Obama’s $700 million in Medicare cuts stolen from taxpayers to fund ObamaCare an “achievement.” You can watch her say it here.

COMMENTS

  • 6eorge Jetson

    nt

  • scott88

    I am surprised by the logic in this post. Cuts need to be made and to suggest that the Ryan plan doesn’t cut more than the Dems doesn’t sound like a conservative approach.

    The message needs to be that the right cuts are being made, as opposed to whether they are less than The dems would make.

    • Tbone

      There is a difference between stealing $700 Billion from Medicare and reforming medicare to cut waste. Basic literacy obviously requires little intellect.

    • Dave_A

      Language matters…

      ‘Reforms need to be made’ works.

      Cuts? We can’t use that word to describe OUR plan.

      Points that can be made:

      Not only does Obama cut 700BN from Medicare, he does so in a way that will raise the cost of healthcare FOR ALL to compensate (by ‘sticking it to’ medical providers)….

      Medicare is going bankrupt, and it needs to be SAVED – which means changing how it does business to make it more efficient…

      Those get the point across without using the C word.

      Remember: R/R already has all the ‘cut government’ voters locked down (especially by bringing the ’2nd R’ in now)….

      The point is to KEEP that base, while also assuring the independents that the Dems are not their friends & the Republicans really do NOT want to destroy Medicare….

  • throwback59

    Obama cut $700 B from Medicare and put it on the airwaves tomorrow and every day till the election.

    • throwback59

      .

    • 6eorge Jetson

      • checkmate2012

        Savings = slashing!! O and the Dems are the one who threw granny off the cliff! Perhaps with dueling granny ads…Romney that saves granny and O that tosses her off the cliff!

      • audax

        Thanks George Jetson!

    • patriot4freedom

      in EVERY swing state Romney needs to win . . .

      Then follow it up the with the clip of Cutter and “Joe the Fraud” Coptic coordinating his despicable lie about his wife – the one that accuses Romney of being responsible for her death.

      • checkmate2012

        is gone. He’s capitalized on his wife’s death which is disgusting.

        At 1st I was sort of sympathetic but then he went to far with this last outrageous ad.

        Mostly in the last ad when he said he didn’t know she was sick. Really? It took 5-6 years and that’s your wife?? Not buying it and he’s horrible IMO.

        • nepanyrush

          Did you really think only someone else should provide health insurance for himself and his wife?

          I never had a job that paid health insurance. I always had to buy my own for my family. And I am quite poor and it is a struggle, but I never expected someone to buy it for me. But when he lost his health insurance, he did nothing about it. And then it was his employers fault. No one can be fired or lose their job, I guess.

  • califgal

    bastards tried to slant things on Medicare against R&R. Schieffer tried to bring up the releasing of taxes as well.

    I caught one place I recognized was edited. From http://m.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/romneyryan-rally-planned-for-waukesha-sunday-night-096f6lt-165842666.html

    “They also sat down for a joint interview with ’60 Minutes’ during which they tried to blunt Democratic criticism of Ryan’s budget plans, particularly his proposal to transform Medicare into a voucher system for younger Americans.

    ‘My mom is a Medicare senior in Florida,’ Ryan told CBS. ‘Our point is, we need to preserve their benefits because government made promises to them that they’ve organized their retirements around. In order to make sure we can do that, you must reform it for those of us who are younger. And we think these reforms are good reforms that have bipartisan origins. They started from the Clinton commission in the late ’90s. ‘ ”

    Guess what wasn’t in the interview? The above paragraph!!!!!

    CBS Bastards.

    • westcoastpatriette

      I would refuse to be interviewed by the MSM much less 60 Minutes. If there is any way they can corrupt the interview, they will.

      • califgal

        was left out–it’s on CBS.com, a small clip.

        So, who knows what else was pared out, but the way around this editing is to always put what you want in just about every paragraph.

        It’s important that people know that Ryan’s mother is on Medicare and so, in every interview, he MUST say it.

    • acat

      Besides, “deity-cursed, spawned of inappropriate relations, and raised by rabid used car salesmen” is equally accurate and more .. damning.

      Mew

      (the irony made me do it)

    • audax

      …then they can’t edit out what they please.

  • scott88

    I’m flattered by your respectful comment, so I guess you won’t be banned.

    My point stands that a good conservative talking point for voters is that costs to entitlements will be reduced which are sensible rather than trying to make the politically motivated point that “our” cuts are less than the opponents.

    • Bill S

      …this is politics. Politically motivated points are part of politics. If you’re looking for a chess game or a cup of tea with your pinkie stuck out, you’re in the wrong part of the universe.

      • scott88

        This one is weak and disingenuous.

        • 6eorge Jetson

          while cutting $700B from Medicare?

          You might as well start practicing, ’cause this is the country you’re going to live in:

    • commonsenseobserver

      Obamacare doesn’t do that.

      Romney-Ryan will preserve and strengthen Social Security and Medicare by giving seniors and future generations to make the right choice for themselves, not ration care by bureaucratic control while spending that on a brand new, irresponsible, $2.5 trillion government takeover of healthcare.

      • scott88

        Very good approach -something that Ryan would say, and it would be genuine.

  • http://www.alanjoelny.com alanjoelny

    Medicare trustees have warned that the program is facing more than $36 trillion in unfunded obligations. There needs to be a major change to the way it works but the Democrats are unwilling to acknowledge this fact or provide any solutions ? only attacks. In doing so, the Democrats are really saying that they don?t care if they destroy Medicare.

    It is imperative that the Republicans stand by Ryan and continue to hammer home the point that the Democrats have no Medicare plan, just like they have no budget plan (for 1200 days and counting). But by doing nothing and keeping Medicare the way it is, the Democrats will surely hasten the demise of the program within ten years. What will happen to the seniors then?

    http://bit.ly/Qt37YV

    • Next93

      Every time the Dems try running the scare game, the conservative side should be asking them whether it’s more moral to try to save the program or let the whole thing collapse. Then they need to point out that the Dems have consistently blocked every attempt to save the system.

      It’s a simple enough message to make it through the MSM filtering and it’s powerful enough to be effective.

  • publious

    • Next93

      When the Dems say that Obama/Biden is “fighting for the middle class”, it seems to me that there are 2 possible meanings:

      1) “Team Obama is fighting for the best interests of the middle class”
      2) “This administration is working towards complete ownership the middle class”

      Given the corporatist/Marxist behavior of this administration, I’m assuming its the second.

      • checkmate2012

        person? No. Perhaps middle class but his “grow it from the middle class out” is bunk. Rich people hire and I’m thankful for them.

        • patriot4freedom

          But he isn’t serious about wanting to help the middle class.

          He just wants to distance himself from the “bottom up” comments that Glenn Beck highlighted in numerous video clips.
          It’s just so much campaign speech B.S. for him.

          – IF he cared about the middle class, he wouldn’t have tried to destroy our private healthcare system, destroy the Gulf oil drilling industry, destroy the coal industry, prohibited the Keystone pipline project, tried to institute cap-and-trade, or done any of the other things that have slammed the brakes on every attempt top get the economy working again.

          • checkmate2012

            socialist rant. He’s all about the top down and trickle down should be his mantra: I’ll trickle it down when the people beg & only if they help him by supporting his campaign. Yuk!

          • patriot4freedom

            Should read “attempt to get” . . .

  • evilbloggerlady
  • checkmate2012

    comment I’ve ever heard.

    CHICAGO?”President Barack Obama is calling Mitt Romney’s running mate the “ideological leader” of Republicans in Congress.
    He says that ideology has led to gridlock, dysfunction and a top-down approach to growing the economy.”

    Read more: Obama calls Ryan the GOP’s ‘ideological leader’ – The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/topstories/ci_21297051/obama-calls-ryan-gops-ideological-leader#ixzz23P8axTiC

  • jmike718

    And today we’re whining because Obama might cut it more then Romney? Am I missing something here? Any other massive state run social entitlement program you feel might be being cut too much?

  • GregInFla

    … you would be wrong. On Face the Nation this morning, Stephanie Cutter called Obama?s $700 million in Medicare cuts

  • willik

    Obama IS cutting Medicare more than Romney would.

    What’s not stated is that Obama is cutting Medicare to FUND ObamaCare! Which is potentially more expensive than Medicare by a factor of at least two.

  • commonsenseobserver

    Not, at least, to preserve and strengthen it while getting the debt under control.

    On the other hand, Barack Obama just stole from it and used it to pay for his $2.5 trillion government takeover of healthcare. His savings probably won’t even materialise. He cuts care for seniors more to add more to the debt. That’s not his fault. That’s the fault of the entire big government liberal ideology.

    Romney and Ryan trust Americans to make the right choices. Obama and Biden want bureaucrats to make the choices for Americans and manage their decline.

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