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DREAM Deferred

The Senate today mustered only 56 votes – four short of the necessary 60 – to break a filibuster and bring to a vote a defense appropriations bill containing two highly controversial provisions: (1) a measure repealing the military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy (a Clinton-era policy) that permits gays to serve in the military only if they are not openly gay, and (2) the DREAM Act, which permits illegal aliens to earn citizenship either by military service or enrollment in college. Leaving aside Harry Reid (who voted against cloture for procedural reasons*), the opposing votes included all present Republicans as well as Arkansas’ two Democratic Senators, Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor.

The DADT vote was the headliner, and the subject of much anguish among liberals/progressives and their Hollywood allies who see ending DADT as a key unfulfilled Obama campaign promise. But the fact is, the Democratic leadership was never serious about using this vote to overturn DADT. Let us count the ways.

(1) Having a DREAM

DADT repeal was appended to an otherwise uncontroversial measure, the annual defense appropriations authorization bill. But it wasn’t the only controversial measure; the bill also included the DREAM Act, which not only allows illegal aliens to become citizens through honorable military service (a not-uncontroversial provision, but on balance a reasonable one and rationally related to the purpose of the bill) but also extends citizenship for attending college. This is a radical expansion of immigration law, and one fraught with perils; as we know from experience with federal education grants (and, further back, draft deferments), if you give people something really valuable in exchange for being in “college,” you create incentives for lots of shady “colleges” to offer enrollment to people desperate to gain federal benefits.

Anyway, by offering two separate cultural flashpoints in the same bill, the Democrats guaranteed an out to any Republican – or Democrat – who wanted to vote against the bill. Scott Brown, for example, might have felt some pressure from his constituents to support DADT repeal, but Brown is on record as an opponent of illegal immigration, and so he could comfortably sidestep that issue by declaring the DREAM Act a game-breaker. Meanwhile, Reid – who has no particular need for gay support but needs Latino support in a big way to get re-elected, which is why he famously declared that the Nevada construction industry employs no illegal immigrants – gets to go back and run Spanish-language ads casting the vote as some sort of anti-Latino pogrom.

(2) Limiting GOP Amendments

It’s Beltway inside baseball to be sure, but while Reid stuffed the bill with liberal hot-button cultural issues, he refused to allow Republicans to offer much in the way of amendments – a decision that made it easy for wavering liberal Republicans like Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe to decide that their votes for this bill were not wanted.

(3) Rushing It

The military is scheduled to deliver a report on DADT in December. While the bill in question would have formally required that DADT repeal be delayed until a certification that the report was favorable to repeal, that’s not the same as allowing legislators to read the report and put their own interpretation on it when it comes out.

Personally, like a lot of Republicans, I have no particular stake in DADT. While there are arguments on both sides of this issue – including the fact that military histories are full of successful soldiers, even military commanders, who were known or broadly suspected to be gay – I think the arguments for allowing openly gay soldiers to serve are stronger in theory. But of course, militaries don’t operate in theory, they operate in the most ruthlessly practical of realities, and so the views of the people charged with actually running the military on a day-to-day basis (particularly the NCO corps) are quite important to deciding whether the military is ready to deal with the unique challenges presented by openly gay soldiers.

If the Administration and Senator Reid waited for the report to come down, they might find a good deal more bipartisan support for DADT repeal, as liberal Republicans – even filibuster leader John McCain, who has expressed openness to changing his mind on this issue – - may have found bipartisan cover for supporting repeal. But they’re not interested in doing this as a bipartisan measure; they were interested in a polarizing social-issue split to help fire up their dispirited base for the election, and perhaps preempting the possibility that the military report would be less favorable than advertised. I just hope that base understands the cynical calculations involved in the vote.

(4) Unseriousness

The Administration pulled so few strings to get this bill passed that Mother Jones magazine was left to ask plaintively, “Is Lady Gaga a Better Politician Than Barack Obama?,” referencing the stump speeches and Twitter activity by the 24-year-old pop star in favor of the bill. One can forgive Gaga for her political naivete – or commercial cynicism, as her fanbase is heavily gay and overwhelmingly in favor of DADT repeal – but the lack of initiative by the Administration on behalf of the bill is telling, if not of President Obama’s fatal political weakness, then of his unwillingness to spend political capital on DADT repeal.

* – Only a Senator who votes against cloture can bring a bill back up for a later vote. Thus, the Majority Leader generally votes against cloture if he does not have the votes to break the filibuster.

COMMENTS

  • theBlur

    We have no budget for next fiscal year, no appropriations for next fiscal year, and yet Reid et. al. add in highly divisive amendments and expect to pass it or “make a statement” with failure.

    Facing another government shutdown, I sincerely hope that the American public wakes up to who really is the party of NO (as in “no budget, no appropriations to pay for that missing budget, and no to letting clean bills through).

    Did I mention that the next fiscal year starts in ten days?

    • Kudzu

      We’re already operating on reserves in the DoD. I was scheduled to take a trip overseas on a temporary trip to the Middle East. We aren’t paying for the trip because we have no money for non-emergency travel and missions. So… the money was coming from somewhere else but failed to come through so no trip, no mission.

      If it happens it happens next year.. oh wait… that’s in 10 years.

    • throwback59

      witty

  • epaulzy

    As a former member of the U-S Army I believe that the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy is wrong. Although I don’t understand the homosexual lifestyle I do understand that we were trained in the military that it didn’t matter what race, gender, creed, or color you were. You were a “soldier” first and everything else second. If a gay or lesbian wants to serve our country they should be allowed to do just that.

    That being said I have to agree with the article that this was nothing but smoke and mirrors by the democrats to try and rally their base for the upcoming election. I don’t see that working since they’re mad at the liberals for not doing more to promote their cause. I view this as just more desperation from the left to try and salvage anything they can that’s left of their majority.

    • trutexan

      The problem though, then becomes what do you do if an openly military gay couple go get legally married in MA, and then tell the military they want a joint spouse assignment and base housing? The military would then be forced to recognize gay marriage which is not recognized by all states, or by 80% of the population (or our president). There are all kinds of benefits & considerations provided to married military couples – even across the sister services and letting them openly serve opens a whole nother bucket of worms that goes beyond allowing gays to come out of the closet in the day-to-day workforce. Even if they both aren’t in the service, the military would be forced to recognize dependent benefits to spouses just as with hetero-sexual couples and their children. TriCare would be forced to recognize them for healthcare, SGLI for death benefits, etc. When the majority of the country is ready to support openly gay marriages across the fruited plain, then the change will be welcomed. Until then, only strife and lawsuits are in the future.

      Thanks for this great post. And here I was giving KBH all kinds of credit for saying no to cloture. Sneaky stuff these politicians and I apprecaite you bringing it out in the open for all to see.

      • youngmonte

        Trutexan gets at only half the probelm. Under the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), the federal government does not recognize same-sex marriage. So if two Soldiers run off and get married, federal law would preclude the Army from recognizing such a union and the Army would be under no legal obligation to provide them with special housing, etc.

        However, the likely response from the Soldiers would be to take the issue to court (you can be sure some militant homosexuals will join the military just for that purpose). We’ve already seen one court declare the prohibition on homosexuals in the military unconstitutional and the assault on that law will continue. (For calrification, DADT is not the law, but an executive order signed by Bill Clinton. The underlying law is very simple – homosexuals cannot serve in the military). DOMA would be the next likely target. There is no telling where this would lead, but my guess is nowhere good.

        The bottom line is that DADT works just fine and does not need to be repealed. Doing so would lead to endless litigation to the detriment of our military’s mission.

    • retiredcoach

      You are correct to say -”it didn?t matter what race, gender, creed, or color you were. Except for the fact that in the above list-”creed” -and I would like to point out that “sexual orientation”, also, is not an immutable (born with) trait!
      Therefore, there should never be special rights and acceptance of those who choose to practice certain sexual acts ( as the reason for their designation as an identifiable identity trait) !
      From where does one get a sexual identity?- I can never get the answer to this very simple question.We know the source of -race, gender, and color- but the origin of “sexual orientation” has never been explained- except in terms of one’s sexual acts- and we should never condone and implement these acts in our military!
      coach

      • soljerblue

        some realistic poll of enlisted service personnel as to their feelings about serving with openly gay comrades. Especially the single personnel live a lot more closely together than commissioned personnel, and I have to believe their “take” on the issue would be a lot less ‘open minded’ than some posting here. As a former Navy enlisted rating, and member of a combat-status flight crew that lived, worked and flew together day in and day out for months on end, I can tell you how I felt, and would feel, and those crew mates with whom I served. Of course, that was years ago — long before the well-educated, superior, elites who know so much more than others started tampering with a culture that wins wars. If openly gay troops are welcomed into the ranks, I predict that over time that will drive many enlisted and commissioned personnel out of the service. And the tension between the remaining straights and the new arrivals in the ranks will make a tough job much harder.

    • aesthete

      and hopefully the instinctual sentiment for all, there are a few complications with real-world implementation:

      1: How will sexual preference be handled in the military? Currently, homosexuality is a quasi-protected class in the civilian world, and is moving fast towards becoming a protected class. It is probable that sexual preference and fraternization will be an issue if DADT is repealed.

      2: Support for homosexuality is another issue. In what ways will homosexuality be represented and supported in the military?

      These broad issues are ones that need to be taken into account when looking at DADT. IMO, that cost is less than the cost of a smaller pool of recruitees, and the costs associated with prosecuting incidents of homosexuality (estimated at ~600 million). However, it should be left to the generals to decide concerning this issue, not legislators.

  • Kudzu

    All around. This DoD budget vote showed how hungry the Democrats are for a big “win” to prove to their base that they can get something done. But unlike Obamacare & FrankenDodd “Reform” the White House didn’t even get involved to flex muscle on already weak looking Democrats in November.

    The Democrats played politics with my paycheck and your tax dollars that buy our bullets… and feed my kids. I don’t doubt that a stand alone DoD budget will come up for vote and be taken care of as it should. Question is will the Democrats attempt to push the DREAM Act or DADT repeal through on a similar bill on a less critical department?

    This is all the more reason for conservatives, constitutionalists, and Republicans to emphasize the need to vote. Its also important to counter, on a personal level with your friends/tweets/facebook, to show that this was not an attack on gays or “brown kids” (as one liberal tweeter put it to me earlier). Defend the vote and emphasis no more earmarks.

    However, if the Republicans fail the earmark and rider test next session, the majority, if there is one, will be short lived.

    • The_Gadfly

      I happen to be against the repeal of DADT, but I am also cognizant of the fact that IF Democrats brought it up as a standalone issue, there is a fairly high probability it would succeed. The same argument can be made about the Dream Act, particularly if it were open to amendment. Heck, strip out the college provision from the Dream Act and I’d be hard pressed to vote against it.

      It was the combination of both issues, with no options for Republican amendment which killed passage of the defense authorization bill. Which means not only were they purely playing election year politics, they are perfectly willing to use our soldiers as pawns.

      • chabsentia

        I am retired Military. I am also a Viet Nam era Veteran so I go way back. Many people mention the people from the Phillipines as justifying getting citizenship via Military service. These people got this special compensation because they never wavered in their support for us in WWII at a huge loss of life and tragedy. Even then they were relegated to such duties as drivers, cooks and servants for a long time and could not go into other fields.To make the same deal to illegals is an insult to both these people and the troops. There are Americans who cant afford to send their children to college yet you would give them a free path to Citizenship and a free college education for at least two years. Why dont the people that agree with this nonsense and set up a college fund for them with their own money instead of asking all taxpayers to pay for it.

        • The_Gadfly

          At least according to what I was taught way back in public schools, military service was essentially their definition of a citizen. I would need to see the final document on how many years of service were needed before approving. Two years wouldn’t be enough, 5 would be the minimum opening bid. I accept your point on the Phillipines. My point was that including college as part of it absolutely kills it even for people who would otherwise approve if the military service were of sufficient length.

          I concur completely with forcing libs to fund their own shenanigans instead of making tax payers foot the bill.

          • aesthete

            of this bill. One need only do two years in a six-year time frame. That is obviously just a payoff to higher education interests.

          • The_Gadfly

            If it was a payoff to higher ed people, I think you’d see it as a four year program which pumps more money into the over-inflated prices of college. With only a two year requirement, way too many non-educational outfits can turbocharge the changing of illegals into citizens.

            But given their levels of petty as well as grand thievery, it could be both.

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    Is NOT about allowing homosexuals to openly serve in the military. It is just another means for homosexuals to force acceptance of homosexuality as an acceptable alternative to heterosexuality. If the military, one of the most conservative organizations in the country, accepts homosexuals, the argument will go, then why can’t organization ‘x’? The push for DADT repeal has the same root as the push for gay marriage which legally is no different than gay ‘unions’ in terms of conferring rights on the partner. But the goal with DADT repeal and gay marriage is, as I stated, is elevating homosexuality and homosexual relationships to the same moral plane as the natural and cultural norm, heterosexuality.

    And regarding Mark Pryor, my other Democrat Senator, I really, really enjoy calling his staffers and reminding them of the fate that awaits them if Pryor continues to vote like Lincoln. She’s about to setting or coming close to setting the record for the largest defeat of a US Senator, ever.

  • bobojake

    It was really sickening the back and forth and the threats little dicky durbin was issuing and then dirty harry almost in tears was issuing his foney threats. This two must be voted out although little dicky durbins term isn’t up this year.

  • craiginiowa

    Take a moment and imagine that your daughter wanted to go to a college. However this college couldn’t tell you how many roommates she would have or how many would be men? The only certain thing was that she would be required to live in the dorm with a common shower/toilet. How many of you would let your daughter(or your son) go to that college?

    Now change men to gays and college to military and you will understand the issue that threatens our nations finest young men and women. Military Leaders are not moral prudes. They segragate the sexes in order to maintain the discipline and pride in the service that will keep our soldiers alive. The issue is discipline and order. When I was I in the service, there were gays that were caught and dismissed. In my experience, it was sexual harassment that led to their discovery and discharge. I have also heard of cases where the heterosexual soldier was too intimidated to report it. A woman shared that during her basic training she was terrified that her female drill sergeant would pick her some night and take her into the toilet to “talk”. And this was under zero tolerance. Imagine what it would be like in today political correct culture – The recruit would have been punished not the sergeant.

    As I said I’ve served – Once I had 5 roommates in a room designed for 3. I’ve stood in line with a couple dozen guys to share an open shower bay. There is no privacy in the military – it’s not like civilian life. It’s not a situation where all a person has to do is be polite at the office for 8 hours a day.

    Finally thoughts – there are a lot of great people who cannot serve in the military. Today I couldn’t – too old, too overweight , too many health issues. It is not a right. And if gays can openly serve along other soldiers including sleeping arrangements, showers, toilets. Then how could the military justify keeping men and women separate. I hope I don’t need to explain how many problems that would create.

    • zollistar

      Don’t ask, don’t tell is a second best, but better than, well, better than “letting it all hang out” so to speak.

    • trutexan
    • hardwired

      Look, gay men and women are already serving in the military. DADT is being used by politicians as a political issue to whip up enthusiasm for their respective parties.

    • edintexas

      I have stood in open shower bays with guys on either side of me, both in the US, and overseas. I’ve slept in bays with 40 guys (though this is no longer common, perhaps preferable though as private rooms with 2 could be a much larger problem if one is gay and one decidedly straight). Open toilets, sleeping arrangements which are decidedly uncomfortably close even when all are straight, etc. Factor in the young testosterone laden, and very macho, troops and a commander has a problem he didn’t need if the politicians force the military to include the openly gay.

      I have no great hope that most of today’s PC military “leaders” will ensure an accurate review of the issue. The SecDef has already indicated how they are to decide. The Marine Commandant seems to be the exception (hardly surprising, even to this old soldier). I’m glad I have an (RET) behind the “USA”.

  • http://www.laborunionreport.com LaborUnionReport

    He scheduled the vote to appease the Democrats’ constituencies, the LGBT community and union bosses, so he and the rest of the Dems could say they tried, were it not for those evil Republicans.

    The worst part about this is that Reid, et al. put troops in harm’s way to score political points.

    • Common_Cents

      While the country teeters on the brink of financial ruin, Reid is still playing political games for his own benefit. Disgusting.

      The fact that man gets more than 40 votes in NV outside his own family is a lesson in apathy and dis-education brainwashing of the masses.

  • jeffreywturner

    As soon as Dingy Harry announced that DREAM would be attached, I knew it was just a political ploy to try and boost Hispanic turnout in Nevada and he had no real intention of passing it.

    Interestingly, I think you could actually see very broad bi-partisan support for half of the DREAM proposal – that is to say that many conservatives (including me) would support the idea of illegals becoming citizens after proving their love for our great nation through honorable military service. The other half however, is downright asinine. Any idiot can “attend” college, without any real commitment or sacrifice.

    As far as the merits of DADT, people just need to realize that it is a logistical issue and not a moral judgement on gaydom. There are situations involving community sleeping and bathing arrangements that make it logistically difficult to accommodate a force as large as our military with openly gay members. It isn’t like the military came up with this policy because some general didn’t like the way his co-worker stared at him from across the office. It can be argued that the benefits of allowing gays to serve openly outweigh the costs, but we need to beat back this idea that any opposition to repeal is rooted in homophobia, because it really cheapens the debate and is a coward’s way out.

  • Adjoran

    They are desperate for anything to fire up the base. That Democrats this late in a election year, having held control of Congress for going on four years and near-absolute control for nearly two, in a weak economy, seek to enthuse their supporters with such issues instead of their grand plans for jobs and growth tells the whole story.

    They are shooting blanks, and they know it, but they can’t lay down and resign themselves to losing because it would turn a wave into a tsunami.

    • http://practicalgopvoter.blogspot.com/ texasproud

      This was not about Don’t ask Don’t tell or illegal immigration. This was just a token vote for liberals to show their best that they are trying while giving red state dems like Lincoln an opportunity to break from her party to appeal to her state. I personally don’t care about DADT or see its relevance. I support whatever the military commanders believe is practical because they have to make the life and death decisions. The DREAM Act is another story. The Democrats have proven they are not serious about true immigration reform, they are just looking for a campaign ad.

  • throwback59

    really a ‘two-fer.’ Good day I’d say.

  • searic

    How can anyone who is a genuine (non-hyphenated) conservative describe himself as indifferent to DA/DT?! Talk about even further weakoning the effectiveness of the US military and an extra-Constitutional P.C. mandate! Are there ANY significant armies opposing us who welcome homosexuals into their armed forces? Does Russia? Does Communist China? For goodness sake, even ISRAEL (including when under the control of the most leftist Jews–Likud–never has had men wearing pink scullcaps in their army!

    BTW: Lady Goo-Goo simply is the latest illustration of the descent of our culture into the sewer system. Her connection to the radical “Gay” forces (not those homosexuals who are content to practice their sexual behaviors in public vs. demanding that America ADVOCATE for them) hardly is surprising. Those “conservatives” who think our nation will be saved simply by a balanced federal budget and low taxes are utter fools (of the kind Lenin loved and used most skillfully)..

    • aesthete

      allow homosexuals to serve openly. Also, Likud is actually the mainstream center-right party in Israel.

  • doncorleone

    That was the goal of antonio gramsci in his writings of how to undo the West (meaning the U.S.). Since the vast majority of the homosexual lobby are fervently marxist in their political leanings, what better way is there to unravel history’s most prolific military. Like the states that allow for gay marriage, let’s take Mass. for example, the state can decide the rationales for marriage, since the definition of a traditional marriage is out the window, all lifestyles and species come into play, and all for monetary reasons (govt. assistance from healthcare to death benefits, social security et al). If you think this sounds far-fetched, look at what is normal, perceived or otherwise, compared to 20 yrs. ago, and especially in the era of obama.

  • runner12

    We need to look at this from a common sense perspective and cut through the rhetoric. DADT is a perfectly logical and common sense policy for the military. It simply states that you need to keep your private life, well, private. I see no problem with this at all. I am not in the military, but I would assume that unity and teamwork is important to accomplish difficult missions. Why in the world would you throw such a hot-button topic such as homosexuality into the mix? It makes no concrete or logical sense. Unfortunately, this is appears to be just another atttempt by the Left and some gay activists to force people into agreeing with their choice of lifestyle. I think that if it were to be repealed it would be detrimental to our military.