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Militarizing America: The Nick Kristof Plan

Be Careful What You Wish For

So often, the problem with the New York Times op-ed page is not just the left-leaning politics, but the poor quality of the contributors, despite the fact that they occupy some of the highest-paid and most-visible perches in the punditocracy. And the hallmark of poor quality punditry is the failure to think through the implications of one’s arguments. So it is with today’s column from Times columnist Nick Kristof.

Kristof’s thesis is that the US military is actually a “socialist” institution that should be a model for our society:

[I]f we seek another model, one that emphasizes universal health care and educational opportunity, one that seeks to curb income inequality, we don’t have to turn to Sweden. Rather, look to the United States military.

Now, it’s reasonable as far as it goes to point out that the military, being wholly-owned and operated by the government, does not behave like a private for-profit enterprise. But does Kristof really think the military isn’t too bureaucratic and inefficient to be a model for the private sector? Hint: it is, because it’s a government bureaucracy, but we tolerate that because it performs an essential and irreplaceable function. Even leaving that aside, however, let’s look at the essential characteristics of the military as a workplace, few of which Kristof seems to have thought through and many of which, I’d guess, he would find objectionable as applied to the private sector:

1. The workforce is not free. You join the military, unless you are discharged, you must serve out your enlisted term of years. Most American workers are free to change jobs, and even if you have a contract for a stated period, the Thirteenth Amendment protects you in most cases from being compelled to do more than pay money damages for quitting. Not so with soldiers, who can be imprisoned for desertion. Also, enlisted soldiers often must live in housing provided by their employer (depending on their rank and other conditions), and ordinarily have few rights of privacy against inspection of their living quarters. They can be shipped hither and yon without their consent.

2. The workforce is not unionized. The military’s complete control over working conditions is in no way obstructed by collective bargaining or work rules. Nor are wages protected by statutory schemes such as the Davis-Bacon Act.

3. The employer is largely immune from suit. Americans with Disabilities Act? Sexual harrassment litigation? Medical malpractice? Age Discrimination in Employment Act? Never heard of them. Most of the workforce is under 40, disproportionately male, physically fit, and until very recently did not permit open homosexuals to serve. Military culture is distinctive, and feminists in particular have long complained of the persistence of a ‘macho’ culture. The upper ranks of the military are naturally dominated by men, because women are barred from the jobs (i.e., combat) that provide the most important opportunities for advancement.

4. The entire workforce is armed and wears uniforms. I’m guessing this is not the case in the New York Times newsroom.

As it happens, the things that make the military so cohesive, and so willing to accept wages and working conditions that would be objectionable in the private sector, are inseparable from its dangerous and violent mission, focus on combat and, yes, its irreducibly masculine culture. As Jonah Goldberg traced in his excellent book Liberal Fascism, Kristof is following an impulse here that recurs with great regularity in the liberal imagination: the desire to replicate the “socialist” nature of the military – or of civilian life in times of total war – without its military-ness. Goldberg draws extensively on the history, from post-World War I progressives (including FDR) seeking to recreate the conditions of the wartime Wilson Administration, to LBJ’s War on Poverty, to Jimmy Carter’s “moral equivalent of war” on energy consumption – he might have added Kristof’s colleague Paul Krugman, who is constantly harping on the economic conditions of the World War II era as a model. But they always fail; men who will run uphill into a machine gun nest for their comrades simply will not do the same thing to sell dishwashers, and no amount of re-imagining of fundamental human nature will make them do so. Militarized societies inevitably founder on this basic reality; they face constant pressure to become wholly militarized and regimented, yet sooner or later they still fail to sustain conditions in which ordinary citizens act like soldiers. As my colleague Repair Man Jack commented, “they tried that in Germany and Italy once. The results weren’t what anyone could have hoped for.”

COMMENTS

  • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

    It is not even close. The analogy fails when you start considering the why of it’s existence in it’s current form.

    The benefits of the military that exist do so at the whim of congress and are usually the minimum congress can get away with while rewarding free citizens for trading in their freedom to do the often dirty and inherently dangerous job so called liberals never would even attempt under circumstances they cower from.

    • streiff

      I’d like to know how you arrived at this conclusion. From my perspective the Army, at least, is about as socialist as you can get.

      You think retirement after 20 years service (typically age 38 for enlisted, 42 for officers) with about 50% of your base pay for life is bad?

      • YnotNOW

        as pointed out in article, plus additional examples.

      • YnotNOW
      • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

        I’m a retired SFC. Over the years I’ve occasionally heard this same hogwash and given it some thought based on years with both over six years in the Federal service and the rest in the National Guards.

        The biggest differentiating factors are:
        The Military is a service paid for in it’s entirety by the government, it is not a self sustaining economy as a socialist entity would claim to be.
        The benefits of the service and after service are social contracts that are geared towards keeping VOLUNTEERS in the service. Serving is NOT compulsory prior to signing off on the paperwork to commit. Socialism is involuntary.

        While it “looks neat” as a parallel to socialism the comparison breaks down very quickly when considering even cursory details.

        • streiff

          the analogy only breaks down if 1) you didn’t read the story and 2) you don’t know what you’re talking about.

      • nickel

        But compared to the other boon doogles that the Congress wastes our money on it is money well spent.

        Twenty years fighting or being ready to fight for our freedom is a much better deal for the rest of us than 90% of the Federal and State budgets.

        Written by a father of a soldier and brother of a soldier, but who never served himself.

        • streiff

          in fact a retirement system like the current one is critical to moving talent up in rank relatively quickly and preventing a superannuated army like the Prussians had on the eve of the French Revolutionary Wars.

      • williamjameson

        healthcare 24/7/365 regardless, with exception of battle filed injuries, which have shorter response times. Nothing socialist about the military. Kristof wants gov to pay for everyone after his wet dream plan of jacking up taxes. Stalling the economy is of no consequence since Kristof doesn’t care about being number one.

    • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

      Since I retired from the National Guards I don’t collect mine until 60 (if I live that long) and those who serve their time completely on a full active Federal status deserve the retirement that was promised to them to keep them in.

      If you really are a retired Major you’d be aware of this and I suspect you’re not from what you’ve presented.

      /2c

      • edintexas

        I can’t say, from what was posted, whether he was what we used to call a “lifer”, disability retired, or not retired military at all. It was an unusual comment from someone who claims to be retired military, and in no way alters your base position that the benefits (whether early retirement, Tri-Care, commissary-PX-BX privileges) are intended to encourage people to remain in service. They were intended to do so when I joined and the Army was primarily a draft Army, and they are even more important in the Volunteer Army.

        With constant deployments to combat zones for the current troops, the constant changes of station for most all post WW II career service members, the wonderful way some of our countrymen treated us on our return from RVN, or giving up time from family and civilian career for the “citizen-soldiers” of the Guard and Reserves, the average military member who remains for a career is motivated by far more than the pay and benefits (current or future).

      • Bill S
      • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

        One I’ve met and had drinks with?

        Please tell me that you didn’t do that.

        • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

          But frankly I did not say that the benefits were bad or unearned and as a former NCO am used to occasionally correcting Officers.

          • streiff

            I have no intention of engaging in this kind of bullcrap with a know-nothing. When you get your master parachutist badge come back and let’s compare DD214s.

            As a former officer I’m used to having NCOs try to blow smoke up my butt.

            If you want to carry this further, let me know.

          • http://pocketchangeproductions.net/ anotherindyfilmguy

            If Moe Lane or Mr. Erickson want to confirm my service status etc they are welcome to do so.

            I apologized for questioning your status – if you feel the need to try and browbeat about it you’re just being a bully instead of man who can accept an apology.

  • blooch

    Civilian National Defense Force? I thought Barry had jettisoned that weirdness…or at least put it off until his second term.

    • kjkj

      I read most of the Americacorps bill, which included the idea of incorporating “the best of the military” into the civilian Americacorps. Is Kristof’s article describing what was planned for Americacorps? The Americacorps volunteers are issued uniforms, get part of their college paid, and probably have “free” health care while serving. Discipline was in the hands of the smaller group’s leader, but no details were offered as to disciplinary procedures or limits. Or is Kristof advocating military-like rule for the whole society?

      Too bad the USSR is not around any longer. I would set Kristof up to live there for awhile. I saw enough in a seven week visit.

      • blooch

        I keep a CNSF icon on my desktop…just to check back in occasionally to see what others may be thinknig about this “peculiarity” of the 2008 Obama campaign.

        This guy sees Charlie Rangel’s 2010 draft stunt as a possible inchoate CNSF lunge:

        http://www.offthegridnews.com/2010/12/17/obamas-civilian-national-security-forc%E2%80%9D-finds-new-life/

        I don’t know what to think,except that maybe there is a leftist longing, a nascent murmur trying to find words, for a sort of…regimentation?… to heal our society. Maybe Kristof and Rangel are expressing a similar thing from different generational points of view.

        • davesinsanantonio

          They can’t stand that we can tell them “no!”, so they have this dream of being able to “regiment” us. And to court martial us if we refuse.
          Beware the bully control freak who disguises himself (or herself–ala Pelosi) as “caring” about others. The only thing the Left “cares” about is power!

  • msctex

    At the core of Progressive thinking is the assumption there is always a magical source of capital that costs nothing to anyone.

    It’s really not that far removed from believing in money fairies.

  • belcatar

    Also, each person serving in the military must complete a certain amount of basic training. There is also a basic set of expectations that everyone in the military must adhere to.

    Then there’s also the “getting deployed and possibly killed” aspect of the military. People who volunteer to risk their lives for their country deserve the very best. Democrats confuse this with the massive sense of entitlement that Obama voters seem to have.

    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

      It sort of makes me wish you could take the Spartacus Society from some major College and University and make them go for a 15 mile road march. Then, we’d all know better if that’s how the left really wanted to reorganize American society.

      • davesinsanantonio

        is to make all of us go on those forced marches while they ride along in their Jeep. They envision themselves as the natural born monarchs of mankind. They are destined for leadership and we are obviously stupid and in need of control for failing to realize that. They are so dedicated to those dreams that if made to suffer such indignities, they will only add that to the price of the retribution they will exact from us when they do gain absolute power. Power to push others around is an obsession with them.

    • blooch

      envision themselves as the ones with the snazzy uniforms and Officers’ Quarters, beneficiaries of a rigid system of segregation from stoically sacrifcial plebes. Of course, the Officer class would have to make agonizing existential decisions concerning the plebes, as well as dole out mundane chickensh– for the benefit of societal integrity.

      These guys don’t really hate violence, terrorism, subjugation, empire, patriarchy or any other evil they project onto the Right. They actually quite admire all of it, and are just looking for a cooler way to present it.

  • Mike

    First, not everybody in the military is armed. Logistics guys are packing pallets, so they don’t need an M4. Finance workers are paper-pushers, so they don’t need an M9 to protect them from paper cuts.

    Can all of us fire a weapon? Sure. But most of us are not armed on a daily basis. Matter of fact, most of us are not allowed to be armed. And I think that is closer to Kristof’s point.

    In return for our healthcare (which at points is suspect) we are required to be in good physical condition. If we fail to meet or exceed standards, we lose that insurance benefit on the way out the door. If Kristof really wants to require chubby sixth graders to go without health insurance…well, be my guest. Make your argument, Mr Kristof, and you will guarantee your own ballot-box shellacking.

    And in return for educational opportunity, we must earn our education in our free time. And we still have to pay for it. True, we are subsidized, but education is not free, even for the military. AND, lest ye forget, we earn our education while staying on good physical condition (there is a time requirement for that), training for deployments (which sometimes entails getting shot at), being involuntarily separated from our families, and OH YEAH, constantly being on the lookout for civilian-looking types who want to kill us.

    You want single-payer healthcare and my education benefits? Fine. Ranger the (bad word) up and join me at the pointy end of the spear. You’ll get what you asked for.

    • streiff

      to the point, very few “not allowed to be armed.” Medics are armed. Docs area allowed to us weapons to defend their patients. Outside chaplains, I can’t think of anyone who is “not allowed to be armed.”

      Your loss of medical care depends on how you leave. If you are on the TDRL, of course, you retain your health benefits while not being in good physical condition. In the case of retirement via disability or standard retirement you do keep medical benefits.

      But your larger points are on target.

      • YnotNOW

        I think he meant in garrison (non-deployed), many do not and cannot carry a weapon. As former medical service corps, when I worked in a state-side hospital, it was specifically prohibited to bring a weapon (even my personal one) into the hospital, and only check out from the armory for annual marksmanship test.
        Deployed I carried a .45 (later changed to 9mm) and all my medics carried M16s. But we were very envious of the Logistics folks who had a few 50-cal machine guns distributed among the convoy escort folks!

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    …when they find themselves in charge.

    Good point, Dan, how the left likes to fantasize about the military model when it’s “clean” in the civilian sector, but very quickly abandon ship when it comes to blood and guts, injury and death.

    In real life, the left views our real soldiers as declass? – and that shameful stain they cannot wash out.

    • aesthete

      See the Weathermen, French Commune, etc. It’s a cultural oddity that many conservatives in this country tend to be strongly pacifistic; the left’s organizing principle of government is using coercion to get Big Things done, which requires a good deal of force. We’re just lucky that our military generally hews conservative: there’s no iron law that states that military men must have limited government preferences, and our institutionally conservative military is in fact very much unique among the nations: many of the armed forces of the Bolivarian and Andean republics, for example, have had large Marxist and statist components (particularly in the Air Force and Army).

      • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

        ..of the brown/blackshirt element of the left, the thugs/bullies who don’t mind blood and guts as long they get to inflict it on their enemies (and who will scream Nazi at any pushback, as Moe’s NJ post above illustrates).

        I probably should have stuck with my first sentence in my comment above. What I was trying to point out was the internal inconsistencies in the way that most liberals view the military. It springs from the same cultural divide that makes these folks think that flyover country is a greater threat than our elite leaders who REALLY want to run our lives.

        • aesthete

          IMO, the cultural left is at least as stupid as its caricature of rural conservatives, if not more so: they hate the military, even though their organizing principle is using government force to smash heads and force labor and corporations to organize as blocs and determine outcomes with equal decision-making power (irrespective of market conditions). This fecklessness is to our advantage, IMO. Some conservatives have expressed nostalgia for leftists who unabashedly love the US and our institutions, but nationalism in the hands of leftists is like a firearm in the hands of a psychopath: the best outcomes that result rely entirely on the party involved not acting in his true nature. It’s a very good thing that squeamishness on the part of the left dilutes truly horrific and blood-drenched ideas into unpalatable foolishness, instead.

  • aesthete

    romantic nostalgia for WWII-era rationing, and enchantment with the USSR and other violent leftist states, it’s a wonder that it took so long for people to see the familial resemblance between parts of the left and fascism.

  • johnt

    You can opt out of the military at end of enlistment, the whole package, {try & get out of Obamacare} you can get retirement benefits, pension at any one of thousands of ordinary civil service jobs, and more then a few private employers, equal opportunity is law all over, and in any case the 19th century ended a while ago, plus tell the goofy looking Kristoff, “Sorry bub, but not everyone’s a racist or woman hater. That’ll break his heart.
    What crap !! And I hate myself for spending time on it.

  • unapologetic_american

    I can tell you that the only reason I’m still in the military is because I believe in protecting the freedoms that we don’t get to have. I do this so a civilian can be free to go up to his employer or politician and tell them to”**** off”.
    I CHOSE to be a part of an organization that prohibits me from certain free speech, freedom of movement, and the other freedoms that I VOLUNTARILY gave up. I wouldn’t want this lifestyle forced on anyone. I can assure you that us in the military would gladly place two rounds in the chest and one in the head of anyone that even tried to force Americans to live as we do.

    Freedom is protected by those who are willing to give up some of theirs.

    • rightwingmom52
      • gekster

        I did my time.
        I’m glad there are those like you who are willing to do thier time.
        Here’s to us and those like us.
        (from some movie somewhere, but fitting.)

    • aesthete

      I have no idea why anyone would want to organize society around militaristic lines: the whole point of the military is to avoid civilians having their freedoms wrested from them.

      • davesinsanantonio

        it is emotional. They “feel”, and have “intentions”. Besides, in their dreamworld they would exempt themselves from the roles and rules they force on others.
        The evidence of this is that for decades Congress has exempted itself from the laws they pass for the rest of us. And the unions and other lefty organizations were already standing in line to get exemptions from Obummercare mandates, all of which have been granted them.

  • JSobieski

    Of course, being a Chinese citizen and being part of a military aren’t all that different.

    Liberals are just idiots with college degrees. Kristof is such a buffoon not to realize the kind of press freedoms absent in a military structure.

    Even in the US, service personnel endure real infringements on First Amendment rights. Jury of your peers? No searches without a warrant?

    How can someone be so against Gitmo for terrorists and so in favor of worse treatment for US citizens? Liberalism, thats how!

    I have always believed that the most reliable cure for liberalism is time spent in a totalitarian state. 1 month in a Stalinist camp and Kristof will come out a libertarian absolutist.

  • chuckwagon2u

    I suppose a society structured like the military would serve a Dictator well. A social order of this Model certainly approximates Authoratian Socialism geared to top down management at its best.
    The standards of leadership requirements are better than the civilian counterparts in Business and Politics as well as SOP’S for all jobs. The structure when used certainly gives direction for all concerned .
    I once had a Col. tell me after he retired and worked in a Civilian workforce that Civilian work was organized confusion.
    Unfortunately Authoritarian Socialism so modeled would slip in El Presidente wearing a Military Uniform and dictating his wishes to his serfs. It is so easy to shift into Totalatarian Socialism in the model of Hitler,Stalin,Mao and their South American counterparts. Sort of what the Left wants anyway.

  • johnt

    You needn’t dig to deep for for underlying motives on this one. All these unruly, free people running around, many of them stupid and disobedient enough not to vote for The O. It’s just a different way of a leftist expressing what they all feel, thinking being out of the question, that force and power are needed, aggression unleashed.
    I think it was a Grosz painting that pictured all kinds of Germans, every one, wearing military uniforms. Nick, I take a 42 medium.

  • wlmconway

    As the wife of a retired career AF pilot, it is my assessment, Kristof has no direct connection with the military. As a socialist, he expects things handed to him.

    The military must be commited dedicated individuals, with a love of Country and, a desire to protect our liberties. Having things handed to them, in not in their DNA.

  • mesalakes

    is individual responsibility. Our military depends on everyone, from newest enlistee to the most senior general/admiral, to strive to perform to the best of his or her ability. Those who can’t meet this standard, are passed over for promotion or dismissed as unfit for service. I can’t imagine this criterion sitting well with the architects of welfare.

    Speaking of whom, they should be known as “reactionaries” rather than “progressives”: their basic tenets can be found in the writings of Sumer, among others, about 5,000 years ago.