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Don’t Settle: Rick Perry for President.

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If this website has a purpose – if any conservative website or publication has a purpose – it must begin with electing conservatives to significant public offices. We have the chance to nominate a conservative for president and win the White House in 2012. We can fumble that chance away by settling for a nominee we can’t trust to pursue conservative policies in office, or we can make a stand for the best, most conservative potential president in the field. That’s Rick Perry, and we enthusiastically endorse him to be the 45th President of the United States.

2012 is a year of enormous opportunity for conservatives. The sitting president is deeply unpopular and discredited, the economy is mired in the doldrums, and the public’s trust in Washington and its traditional ways is at an all-time low. Tea Party-backed conservative successes in 2010 show that the public is willing to embrace candidates who dissent from the bipartisan consensus – a consensus that gives us an ever-growing federal government in general and too much federal interference and favoritism in the economy in particular. President Obama’s deep unpopularity with independents, together with the growth of left-wing populist protest movements, shows that dissatisfaction with the status quo reaches far beyond the conservative base. But the failure of some Tea Party conservatives in 2010 is also a reminder that to win, we need candidates who are serious, experienced, and battle-tested. That’s Rick Perry.

The Most Conservative Candidate

Perry is the most reliable conservative in the race. He has made his share of missteps over 25 years in public life, as have all the candidates, but when you think seriously about which of the major candidates would govern in the most consistently conservative fashion, the answer is obvious. Perry hasn’t zigzagged or flip-flopped his way through his career, and he’s not overtaken by a new enthusiasm every week. Neither flights of fancy nor bipartisan consensus for its own sake are in his nature. His long record in office, and his base of support, place him well to the right of Mitt Romney and – on the great issues of the day – to the right of Newt Gingrich as well. Judging the men just by their records, Perry can be counted on to govern to the right of either.

A brief summary of examples of Perry’s lengthy record tells the story of his conservatism:

-67 tax cuts for a total taxpayer savings of $14 billion.

-Fewer government employees per capita than when he took office.

-Perry has consistently scored a solid “B” rating from the Cato Institute on spending.

-Persistent action (not just words) on pro-life issues, ranging from breaking roadblocks to a parental notification law in 1999 to a groundbreaking defunding of Planned Parenthood in 2011.

-The Club for Growth: “Pro-growth conservatives looking for a champion on the issue of tort reform will be hard pressed to find a candidate with a better record than Governor Perry.”

The single biggest issue on which Perry has taken heat from the right is immigration. But there, too, Perry has been on the front lines. Perry is easily the most pro-border security Governor in U.S. history, having spent more than $400 million Texas taxpayer dollars since 2005 to do one of the few duties the Federal Government is obligated to do. Immigration is not the central issue of this election – jobs and the size of government are far more important – but Perry is comfortably in the center of the Republican Party on immigration, and he has consistently shown that he will take seriously the foundational task of securing the border first.

The Best Potential President

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Perry is well-prepared by experience and temperament to take on the presidency. He’s the longest-serving Governor in the history of the nation’s second-largest state. He’s a calm, steady hand at the helm, with strong Christian faith and a stable family. He’s come up from humble, rural roots, served his country overseas in the Air Force, and made a living in the private sector as a rancher and cotton farmer. Perry is studious and deliberate in making decisions, and resolute without being unduly stubborn in carrying them out; when he’s erred, as with the Gardasil controversy, he’s backed down, but when he’s right he sticks to his guns. He’s been tested by crises in office, including Hurricane Rita in 2005 and Hurricane Ike in 2008 (as well as the 300,000 refugees sent into Texas by Hurricane Katrina) and 2011′s wildfires. And he’ll appoint conservatives aplenty to his administration: a look at who he will owe his nomination to, if he pulls this out, tells us that. Armed with conservative convictions and surrounded by solid conservative advisors, Perry has the necessary experience and temperament to get the job done.

The one knock on Perry is that his poor debate performances and periodic campaign trail gaffes will open him to the same vulnerabilities in office as President Bush: an inability to respond to criticism or explain his own policies. That’s a fair concern, but it should not be overstated. First, Perry’s reputation in Texas is very different from Bush’s. Bush was all about bipartisan bonhomie; Perry has left the state littered with the political corpses of people who stood in his way. Remember Jim Hightower, the left-wing talker who coined the phrase “the only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines and dead armadillos”? Perry ended his political career 21 years ago. Maybe Perry’s not Demosthenes, but he knows how build a team that gets his message out and go after his foes.

Second, debating skill takes on outsize importance in the primaries, when candidates have to stand out on a stage crowded with 7 or 8 people who all agree with each other 80-90% of the time. All Rick Perry needs to do is step onstage and everyone will know how he’s different from Barack Obama.

Third, the main job of the president is making decisions, not talking, and Alex Kaufmann makes a great point regarding how guys like Perry get things done:

Until yesterday, I wasn’t completely sure why I liked Rick Perry so much. I have a list of reasons, but none of them really got to the root of why I like him.

Yesterday the reason finally dawned on me. I watched this wonderful 11-minute video from Ben Howe entitled “The Rick Perry I Know”…

… and I had a revelation: Rick Perry is just like my Dad.

…Like my Dad, Rick sees the population of the world in three categories: Innocent people, and the good guys, who protect them from the bad guys. This sort of man has a profound and selfless love for the first group; a great admiration and willingness to work with the second; and if you’re the third group… God help you. A few people fall into the category of “I haven’t figured you out yet“, and are treated skeptically but fairly. This might be a simplistic worldview, but it’s an admirable and pragmatic one which has served our species well for a very long time.

Perry Can Win

Some will complain that Perry does not appear electable right now. But he can still win the nomination; this has been a wildly unpredictable primary season, and it’s not over yet. Romney can still be defeated – there remain 75-80% of GOP primary voters who have been listening to Romney for five years and still are not sold on him as the nominee. Gingrich can still collapse – he carries enormous political baggage of every imaginable kind, and lacks Perry’s organization. The other candidates (Huntsman, Paul, Bachmann and Santorum) could still enjoy a surge in an early state, but lack the organization or broad base of support to advance to the top tier. If one of the two current front-runners crumbles, Perry is best-positioned to make this a two-man race that could last through June, like the Obama-Hillary slugfest of 2008.

And after Iowa and New Hampshire, the terrain shifts to turf that more naturally favors a Perry revival. The remaining two January primaries are in South Carolina and Florida. Arizona is one of just two primaries (in addition to several caucuses) in February. And if he ends up in a two-man race with Romney, 10 of the 23 states that vote in March – controlling 60% of the delegates selected that month – are likely to be distinctly friendlier territory for Perry than Romney: Georgia, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Kansas, Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri and Louisiana. Perry should easily have the money to carry the fight through these states and take the lead in the race, if he can make his case.

Yes, Perry has fallen back in the pack. But he is not to be written off lightly: he’s won more statewide elections than the rest of the GOP field put together, and has never lost one. Sure, Texas is a Republican state – but it wasn’t when Perry started running for office, and he’s part of the reason that changed.

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As for the general election, there is no reason to believe that either Romney or Gingrich would be a significantly stronger general election candidate. Both have multiple major vulnerabilities. In Romney’s case, he’s won one election in 17 years of running for office, he’s transparently insincere and has flip-flopped on nearly every issue you could name. His signature achievement is Romneycare, a bill that drew Ted Kennedy’s approval and set the stage for Obamacare. Truthfully, the campaigns have only scratched the surface of his vulnerabilities arising from his wealth and business practices, something that will not be so easily looked over by the Obama campaign. In Gingrich’s case, he’s never held executive office or won a statewide election. He was – not so long ago – perhaps the most unpopular politician in living memory, and his marital and other problems are likely to dog him throughout the election. Are both men miles better than Obama? Yes. Could both win? Yes, against this president in this year. But both have such severe electoral vulnerabilities that preferring either to Perry solely on grounds that they’d run better in a general election is a fool’s errand.

The Jobs Governor For A Jobs Election

Perry’s greatest asset is that he has a tremendous story to tell about the success of the Texas economy. When it comes to the Texas economy, it is important to start with what Governor Perry has not done. He has not micro-managed the Texan economy with a heavy hand. During his ten years in office, Gov. Perry has instead encouraged and protected the pro-growth and small-government policies and attitudes that are widely considered to have caused the record boom in the state’s population, not to mention a remarkably quick recovery from the recession that the rest of of the country seems to be still mired in. The Texas state budget is projected to have a surplus next year, thanks largely to increased sales tax and energy revenue (Texas has no state income tax); and has largely gotten back the jobs lost in the recession. Whether or not you credit the governor for the situation, consider this: Rick Perry’s political experience has been in an arena where not interfering in the economy for the sake of interfering has been shown to work. This is a valuable trait all in its own.

And the Texas jobs record is impressive, swimming upstream against a nation where Washington has hemorrhaged money on shovel-ready rhetoric while the economy burns. Two graphs from Will Franklin tell the story more eloquently than words:

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In Texas, Rick Perry’s style of governance has gotten the jobs done. Conservatism is about what works. Texas, under Rick Perry, works. We owe America the chance to do the same. Rick Perry for President.

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COMMENTS

  • sunshinek67

    :)

    • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

      Thank you thank you thank you thank you to Aaron, Ben, Moe, Steve, Dan, Neil, streiff, Russ, and Lori! You’re all awesome. Thank you so much for having the courage and conviction to write this. I think I can speak for the Perry Posse when I say we appreciate this from the bottom of our hearts.

      • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

        Now, let’s hope other key endorsements emerge unscathed…ASAP!

        • sunshinek67

          :(

      • sunshinek67

        ;)

      • http://minorcan-maven.blogspot.com/ minorcanmaven

        My family is so hopeful for Perry. I KNOW he can do this, I know America will be stronger with a leader like him.

      • forwhomthelibertybelltolls

        this is just what I needed. Thank you to those who posted this. I, too, have shared this everywhere I can. Check out Big Government as well!! http://biggovernment.com/mikeflynn/2011/12/19/393640/

    • http://teresainfortworth.wordpress.com/ Teresa in Fort Worth, TX

      Gig ‘Em, Rick Perry!

      • txmom4perry

        Sooo looking forward to our first Aggie in the White House!

        I say those of us from Texas all make the trip to DC for the inauguration and squeeze out all those rude protestor types that showed up for Bush’s inaugurations. We and our boy Rick can show Obama and the DC crowd once and for all that you Don’t Mess with Texas!

        Seriously, my family and I are looking for some serious payback. I am so Fed Up with those elitist know-nothings that constantly depict Texans and our candidates as slow and stupid. We can’t wait to sing that lovely farewell song to Big O that his supporters sang to Bush: “na na na na, hey hey, Goodbye!”

        No offense to all you non-Texans. I know it’s not your fault you weren’t born here. I’d be willing to make you all honorary Texans for the day. You can all join us with Texas flag shirts and Stetson hats for the inauguration and a Texas-sized BBQ celebration afterwards.

        • romansdaughter

          I am from Washington state but I don’t mind being a honorary Texan. My Mom is from Oklahoma so that’s close. Yee Haw!

          • nancysabet

            but I don?t mind being a honorary Texan. My daughter was born in TX that?s close enough!!

          • acat

            but I don’t mind being an honorary Texan either. My last job moved to Texas. (I didn’t go with … 90 degrees in the shade does not mix well with black fur…)

            Mew

        • geotan

          Your man doesn’t stand a chance to win the Presidency so make sure you buy cancellation insurance for your trip. Not all Texans are stupid, an obvious point, but Rick Perry is not intelligent enough and lacks the communication skills to be President. I marvel as to how he even got elected Governor. Now I know why he avoided those debates in Texas! Stop being defensive about Texan intelligence levels. Rick Perry is the problem not the average Texan. Your attempting to defend Perry against the embarrassing debate performances and bizarre speech in NH earlier. Stop putting up a strawman argument that just because we criticize Perry’s intelligence that all Texans are stupid. This is childish thinking.

          • txmom4perry

            You’re right about Perry’s lack of intelligence. I mean, really. Low taxes. Low regulations. Limiting frivolous lawsuits. What kind of idiot believes that kind of thinking will lead to prosperity? Look what a mess he made of Texas! And at a time when the rest of the country is doing so well with big government solutions from those really smart folks up in Washington, DC? I guess that’s why people are leaving the state of Texas in record numbers…..oh, wait…..maybe I was describing things where you live.

          • http://minorcan-maven.blogspot.com/ minorcanmaven

            Perry will get ‘er done! Roll back taxes, regulations, put things back to the states where they belong, and get the borders and immigration ENFORCEMENT right! And take care of our military. So much, but, the first 3 take care of economy and the last two help National Security.

          • geotan

            Once again, stop the straw man arguments. I didn’t say that Perry was a poor Governor or that he isn’t a decent conservative. You can’t see the forest for the trees because you are biased. Perry is not a communicator and you need to be able to combine conservative principles with communication skills. As I said in other posts, even though I am a Romney supporter, why don’t you support Santorum or Bachman? They are clearly even more conservative than Perry and Santorum was high up in the Senate during his tenure with a lot of responsbility. I don’t support candidates mostly because they are my Governor or grew up in my backyard. I tend to pick candidates on their positions a novel idea.

          • greyeagle

            Gee, a Romney supporter? Who would have suspected?

          • txmom4perry

            I bet you would love that. It’s the only way your guy can win. By the way, why DO you support Romney? Why not Newt? He’s a big government guy that supported the individual mandate and TARP. He’s intelligent and a pretty good communicator, if you like being lectured to. Or Huntsman? He’s sometimes conservative, sometimes moderate, has shown a definite willingness to get along with democrats (Ambassador for Big O himself), is a Mormon, was a governor, and has plenty of personal wealth to throw around, too. Exactly which of Romney’s positions, on which days, do you support?

            By the way, I don’t support Rick Perry for President just because he’s my governor. Texas has had a number of governors in my lifetime that I would never support for any office. As for Perry, most of us here in Texas would much rather keep him here than take our chances with his replacement. We are willing to make the sacrifice, however, for the good of ALL Americans. It is what he stands for and has proven he will successfully fight for that I support.

            As for strawman arguments…rather than making personal attacks on me and my friends here at RedState and making false claims about our candidate, I suggest you Put Up or Shut Up.

          • geotan

            It’s simple. I believe he has changed from a moderate Republican to a Conservative and will largely remain that way because he is going from governing the most liberal state in America where he couldn’t change the abortion laws to President of all 50 states where conservatism is needed to govern effectively in this day and at this time. I don’t worry about his sincerity because like Reagan, he made a calculated choice to work with his particular situation and position himself by gaining governing experience. Gingrich was thrown out of office for ethics issues, had 3 wives, is clearly cap and trade global warming proponent, and loves big government programs like Freddie Mac which he pocketed millions from. Romney’s issues are different. He is suffering from holding some moderate positions primarily to do with social issues not fiscal with the exception of health care where he proposed a solution which required and individual mandate for the 8% that were not covered. An individual mandate is a conservative idea and therefore we should have an honest disagreement about it without painting the proponents of such as “liberals” when it is clear that it is about personal responsibility. You have to carry car insurance or you can’t drive. Why should health care be different when others have to pay higher rates to subsidize freeloaders. Like I said, you may disagree and that’s fine, but to say that Romney is a flip flopper or insincere is misguided. That’s the difference between Romney and Gingrich.

          • dpmapper

            I understand your reasons against Perry and Gingrich, but I can’t think of any reason why Romney might be preferable in comparison with Huntsman. But maybe you’ll enlighten me.

          • geotan

            I am concerned about Huntsman’s foreign policy views. He seems to have a lot in common with Ron Paul on that issue in terms of isolationism. Don’t get me wrong, I think Iraq was proven to be a big mistake but Afghanistan is another matter. Also, I prefer Romney’s business experience as his fit is perfect for what is needed at this time, an economic professional who also has political experience. I also see Romney’s position as Governor of a liberal state as more of an asset than Huntsman’s with Utah. It was more of a challenge for Romney to be Governor of Massachuseutts and will help him appeal to independents and some Democrats. Right now it’s a weakness in the Tea Party and Conservative Republican circles, but it will prove to be an asset.

          • conservative_dan

            Maybe it’s time for someone who ISN’T the “smartest man in the universe” (meaning the boy-king) Please God, some relief here!!!!

          • nancysabet

            you could be one of those northerners who actually have a ?Texas state of mind?.

          • carolynr

            I was listening to Doug Shoen on Hannity’s show (Mark Simon was sitting in). Doug made some derogatory remarks…just like you have…however, he said something very interesting. How many debates have we had this year? Lots. The man just got done with having his spine fused and he had to stand for at least two hours. This does not even taken into account the grueling campaign schedule, running here, standing up, looking great. This is how hard he would work FOR YOU AS PRESIDENT…he wouldn’t be flying off to Hawaii every two months. Tell you what…I know someone who had this done…two tries and he could only come to work for half the day. Finally, they got it right. He was in constant pain.

            Now…do you know what happens to me when I am in pain? You don’t want to be around me for starters. Yet, Perry was every bit the gentlemen…never any harsh remarks. When you are in pain, and this isn’t some little pain, people don’t concentrate well. Do you? But…like the poster said after me…for someone that is so stupid…he was able to do what OBAMA…the supposed brain could not…help create jobs through lower regulation, affordable health insurance, tort reform and stability. Where was wonder boy Romney? I’ll tell you…47th out of 50th in job creation. Gingrich is not a governor and does not have that well-rounded resume for the POTUS.

            So, Perry represents to me…me. There are so many me’s out there that are crying for common sense and good government.
            So if Rick Perry is dumb and has done all this…I LIKE DUMB…BECAUSE SMART (obama and romney) HAVE AND WILL DRIVE US INTO THE DITCH.

          • retire05

            He said that Perry had just had back surgery and if anyone had ever gone through what Perry did, they would understand what kind of pain he had to be in during the first couple of debates. Mark Simon said “Well, Kennedy campaigned when he was in a lot of pain,” and Shoen said, yes, but how many debates did Kennedy have. They also went on to talk about the 30 second responses instead of the old, traditional two minutes.

            What Shoen, nor Simon, never talked about was how juiced Kennedy was during the entire campaign and how Kennedy pretty much stayed juiced all during his presidency. The list of drugs JFK took was mind boggling. Bobby Kennedy was so worried he sent JFK’s drugs to the FBI lab to find out what they were. When he learned what his brother was taking (prescribed by Dr. FeelGood) he confronted JFK about them. “I don’t care if they’re horse p!ss” JFK told Bobby, “they make me feel better.”

            Fox pundits continue to talk about how Perry seemed to run out of steam after about an hour during those first debates. Standing on his feet for that long, just weeks after surgery, had to be horrible. But Perry doesn’t make excuses (read Riehl World post on this) and simply said “it is what it is” about his debate performances those first couple of times. No excuses. Takes full reponsibility for doing badly when Mitt would have probably been crying to the press about how much pain he was in.

            Perry, ever the soldier. Does his job, wounded or not.

        • racetraitor

          Can I also be an honorary Texan? I love Texas. I’ve only been there a couple of times (for job interviews in the early ’90s), but I bought a Stetson while I was down there. Still have it. Can I wear it to the inauguration?

          Aaron, Ben, Moe, Lori, and all the rest of you signatories, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! God bless you all, and God bless Rick Perry!

          • txmom4perry

            The more the merrier! Welcome to all honorary Texans.

          • retire05

            see if you can get your Congressman to get you tickets to the Black Boots and Tie Ball. I have been twice and it is a kick. You will get to eat Texas shrimp, Texas beef, meet people you never dreamed are Texans and will have more fun than should be legal.

            Nothing like seeing a Texas dress to the nines: Stetson, black boots (preferably ostrich and by Lucchese), white formal shirt, black tie, tuxedo jacket and Wranglers starched so still they could stand on their own.

            Now that’s Texan.

        • charlenemae45

          the South in general, but Texas specifically will save this nation. I live in NJ, but born in Trinidad and Tobago, a proud American. I love the common sense straight talk, with out the P.C liberal foolishness of most Southerners. Rick Perry is an honest man, he speaks from the heart, he is one of us, so I support him to be our next President. Those of you who are concerned about his ability to debate Obama, he just has to point to the awful condition of our country, and the confused foreign policy as the answer to every question and/or statement posed in the debates.

    • geotan

      I admire your strong attempt to sell Perry to the Republican electorate. However, these customers are not buying your proposal, sincerity included. Perry is not intelligent enough to communicate his ideas period full stop. For you, Erik and many Redstate followers to blind yourselves to this reality doesn’t change the stark reality. There is a reason the whole world collectively gasped at his debate performances and infamous “oops” moment. NO matter how hard you push your man, you are asking for a disaster and I would bet 1millions dollars not $10,000 that he doesn’t stand a snow balls chance in hell of winning the nomination or general election. If you are so intent on a conservative then vote for Bachman, or Santorum. What exactly is the problem with them as they seem to line up with you very well. Regarding electability, they have just as much a chance as anyone especially with your support.

      • Aaron Gardner

        Nor how to spell Erick. You are a sad excuse for a troll.

        • tailfins1959

          Take this in the spirit of good fun, but geotan’s post seems like a pure regurgitation of the National Review endorsement.

          • geotan

            Yes, I fully concur with the NR editorial supporting Romney. I honestly believe that Romney will govern as a Conservative because he has too. Plus, he is already a proven fiscal conservative and will lower taxes, decrease regulation and understand how to create jobs. Perry has to be told what to do. Romney knows what to do. I’ll take my chances with Romney. Finally, everyone underestimates Obama’s reelection advantages. Romney will be the only one who has a shot.

          • Aaron Gardner

            And twice on Sundays.

          • tailfins1959

            What about Rick Perry’s versus Deval Patrick’s jobs record? I can tell you from experience: If you’re down on your butt, moving to Metro Boston beats Texas these days. Thanks to Texas getting all the media hype and being overrun as such, Metro Boston is a “best kept secret” if you’re looking for a job especially if you have a degree. Don’t take this so much as a political statement rather than following Limbaugh’s advice if you can’t find a job, move to a place you can.

          • Scope

            in any way shape or form, and their jobs creation records, proves that you are clearly on the wrong site, or desperate, or both.

          • tailfins1959

            I will probably leave MA when (whistling past the graveyard) life in the US gets back to normal. Living in a single family home with a nice yard is next to impossible. There is one way that making the TX vs MA comparison is reasonable: If you truly want to help, you tell people what has the best chance of success. Would you rather see someone remain unemployed in Texas or advance in their career in Boston? Walk a mile in my shoes before you criticize. There are millions more GOP voters where I came from.

            Circumstances change people! In my case, I just don’t know how much.

          • tailfins1959

            This time last year, I was on homeless sites such as www.homelessforums.org with energy focused on not sleeping under a bridge or not being arrested for sleeping under a bridge. It’s a real luxury to be able to think about politics again. I’m just not 100% sure what I believe anymore.

          • retire05

            So let’s look at the lastest BLS stats, shall we:

            Boston: workforce October, 2,556,300, down since May total workforce of 2,569,700 for a workforce loss of 13,400. This loss in workforce reduced the unemployment rate from 7.1 in May to 6.2 in October.

            Houston: workforce October, 2,989,000 up since May total of 2,931,200 for an increase in the workforce of 57,800. Yet the unemployment rate in Houston, in spite of almost 60,000 new people added to the workforce has decreased from 8.2% in May to 8.1% in October.

            It is easy to lower the unemployment rate when you are losing population.

            Massachusetts in just the last six months has lost 6,100 in its workforce compared to the Texas increase of 59,000.

            Anyone considering a move to Boston needs to also consider the cost of living, housing costs, and taxes including state income and ad valorum.

          • retire05

            According to InflationData.com, if you earn $100,000/yr in Houston, Texas and move to Boston, MA, your earning will have to increase by $35,662.15/yr to have the same cost of living.

            I don’t think that you can work the same job for the same amount of hours and earn over 35% more in Boston to make it worth the move.

          • tailfins1959

            I moved from Tennessee to Boston and earned 200% more (triple). Furthermore, my wife was tired of the discrimination in Tennessee. I’m keeping my eyes peeled for a place that has a shortage of IT workers. I suspect the bubble in Boston isn’t sustainable.

          • retire05

            You were the one who wanted to compare Boston to Texas. I gave you the stats provided by the BLS. Now you want to throw in Tennessee.

            Bottom line is that your money goes farther in Texas than in Massachusetts. It doesn’t make a tinker’s damn what pay you get if your cost of living doesn’t equal out.

          • tailfins1959

            If you knew a homeless person with $500 to their name, what city would you recommend?

          • tailfins1959

            Convince him to knock off the fake “tough on immigration” stance. Like I said in another post: It’s Romney version of the Dukakis tank. The best Romney can do (and be believable) on immigration is admit he’s soft, but demonstrate he will fight a path to citizenship for illegals.

          • txmom4perry

            Evidence?

            “[Romney] is already a proven fiscal conservative and will lower taxes, decrease regulation and understand how to create jobs.” Again. Evidence?

            You contradict yourself. First you say, “Romney will govern as a Conservative because he has too.” I assume you mean to say that he would do so because he is being told that is what the people want. Then you say, “Perry has to be told what to do. Romney knows what to do.” By this do you still mean Romney understands to whom he must listen to determine how he will govern? Or is this a flip-flop in honor of your guy?

            Perry actually has a proven record of conservative governance and hasn’t changed his positions relative to the year or office for which he is running. By this I mean that he is running for president on the same set of core beliefs and policies that he has always run on, won with, and acted on here in Texas. Don’t see the same with your guy who has to check which way the wind is blowing before he can form an opinion.

            As for this idea that Romney, or anyone else for that matter, will govern as a conservative despite not actually being a conservative because we will somehow be able to steer him that way, is complete nonsense. If we nominate and later elect another moderate, he will have no more reason to govern conservatively than BO has. Afterall, the conservatives will have been defeated. True conservatives don’t be fooled. The only way we will get a conservative leader in the White House is if we elect a conservative to the White House!

          • geotan

            Romney is clearly a conservative as he lowered taxes and balanced his budget while Governor. What I mean by the fact that he will have to govern conservatively is with regard to a type of political insurance. The electorate is demanding jobs, cost cutting and efficiency in government. This demands conservative economic policies. Romney is a pure capitalist and proven fiscal conservative and the electorate will ensure that he keeps on that pro growth path. This is what I mean that he “has” to govern as a conservative. In other words, don’t worry that he is a liberal in conservative clothing. The electorate has moved more to the right and any President will have to govern accordingly. Nice observation. Listen, I think Perry has done well and is great for Texas. As an objective person, I simply don’t believe he will translate that success to the White House because he simply doesn’t have the talent to make it. Plain and simple. Why do you think Perry plummeted to 10% in the polls? It’s not because we’re all mean and nasty and don’t love Texans. I am from the North but I love Southerners because I am Christian and relate more to christians. But I am also objective.

          • txmom4perry

            The electorate’s influence is at the ballot box. If we don’t ELECT a conservative, we won’t GET a conservative. Plain and simple.

            “I think Perry has done well and is great for Texas.” So we finally agree on something. “I simply don?t believe he will translate that success to the White House because he simply doesn?t have the talent to make it.” Again, you contradict yourself, and it’s just silly.

          • sunshinek67

            nt

          • greyeagle

            We get you don’t like Perry, but I am from TX and he has been my Governor for a lot of hears. I would appreciate it if you would please stop calling Perry ignorant and stupid. If he was, he would not have been elected 3 times to Governor. Texans aren’t stupid either.

        • geotan

          I responded to the post of Dan Mclaughlin under his column. What’s the problem? I am not a Redstate nor Erick Erikson fan so why would I be required to spell a name properly of someone I hardly read about? Doesn’t the name Erick have variations such as Erik? This is not a spelling problem but a lack of my research in his name. Your juvenile attempt to criticize me is quite sad. Why don’t you rebut my answer and rub a couple brain cells together to make it happen?

          • Aaron Gardner

            It isn’t as if you made any sort of intellectual argument.

            P.S.

            Dan McLaughlin [notice the capital "L"]

            Erick Erickson [notice the "c" in both the first and last name]

            If you aren’t a fan of Redstate, why are you here? Oh, that’s right, you are a Rombot troll.

            At least you realize it would only take a couple brain cells to refute your idiocy. So there’s that.

      • Bill S

        And I ought to ban you just for misspelling Erick’s name.

      • ceili_dancer

        I do have to laugh at your overreaching sense of superiority. Did you see any of the videos? The commercials you may write off, but Ben’s Q&A with him is so instructive on the who the man is and what he believes. Intelligence comes in so many varied components verbal being just one of them. Up-thread you have a post on denigrating the intelligence of Texans. …I know that you tried to pass it off you were only saying that rick is stupid, but then you add that you marvel how he was elected governor, i.e. the Texas voters, those simpleton peons of limited intelligence. I bet you thank your stars they still use outhouses down there so they won’t urinate all over the toilet seat and floor. Your guy Romney has not shown any real intelligence during the debates. …Scratch that, his prevent defense of hiding in the shadows while everyone discusses real issues and just wave to the crowd at the beginning and end is the smartest thing he could do, given if he had to defend the massive flips in policy he’s done to be “The most electable politician to ever run for numerous offices for the last 18 years and winning only once” ( I think I might trade mark that)
        /rant

        p.s.- it’s Erick, getting peoples name right is one of the basic steps in winning friends and influencing people. Although you are soo much more intelligent than anyone else around here and it is your secret code word to access the Rombot files online.

        • geotan

          Excuse me, I thought I was writing in America not the Soviet Union. You want me banned because I hurt your feelings a little? What exactly did I say that was so inappropriate and offensive as to warrant being banned? Oh I get it. I support Romney so I need to be blacklisted from your site. How democratic is that thinking? Be a man and defend yourself instead of wishing me away.
          I did not say Rick was “stupid” you did, I said he doesn’t have the communication skills required. I’m not the only one to wonder how he could have been elected Governor having only seen him at the debates. The bottom line is that you may love him with all your heart but don’t let that obscure the reality of his strengths and weaknesses.

          • tailfins1959

            Redstate is good practice for the corporate environment. They have posted rules, implementation of the rules and judgement calls based on how much internal pull the parties involved are. Think of it as the blog equivalent of the EPA. I don’t have a preferred candidate, but speak my mind or lack thereof. I don’t know how long I will be around, but hope to be pleasantly surprised. This recession has strained my support of conservatism. I’m basically here to measure whether or not I still like conservatives/ism.

          • paladin1

            like the U.S. electorate, is more concerned with the results of Governor Perry’s tenure than with his ability to sound like Romney or Obama. Thats why we have elected him as Governor three times. Romney has a base of support like Ron Paul; it has a ceiling and he is close to it if not there already. You can play it as you will but he has views that are Democrat friendly on issues like immigration, Obamacare, and his big government ideas mimic those of the establishment. I know some don’t get it but conservatives are sick of the establishment and will not elect another McConnell or Boehner clone to work in harmony with them to maintain the status quo.

            I don’t want to see you banned, it’s commenters like you that make this place so much fun. Romney’s weakness with the electorate was exposed very openly two weeks ago and the Democrats have quietened the media down so as to try and allow a real conservative like Perry an opening. The Democrats are salivating at the thought of Romney with all his collective liberal baggage taking the nomination and know their only chance is with opposing him.

          • paladin1

            NT

          • geotan

            I agree. People like us make life more interesting because we don”t shut up when we’re told to. Ann Coulter is a political mentor of mine. She may be over the top sometimes but I like how she is like a pitbull and doesn’t let go of her points. Rush taught me to allow debate and contrary opinion to keep the show entertaining and keep you on your toes. I find the weak willed followers tend to be scared of this type of personality and there solution is to tell you to get lost rather than tell you why you’re wrong. Come to think of it, that’s what loudmouthed frenetic liberals do when they debate with you. They scream and shout and tell you that you’re evil, sexist, racist etc. In my case, I’m a Romney “troll”, “wannabee intellegentsia”, “defecator extrodinaire”, that’s French to my friends here. But the ironic thing is that millions of people share my view of Perry and rather than deal with it head on with sober mindedness, your’re attacked by the fragile. I am as conservative as anyone here on this forum and I support Romney. Ann Coulter supports Romney, many conservatives support Romney. We have made the political calculation that Romney adapted some of his political philosophy for the time and place of liberal Massachuseutts. This may be some what Machiavellian but it is political hardball reality. Some doubt he will govern conservatively and I share their concern. However, just ask the Greeks if their socialist Prime Minister Papandreou is not slashing and burning the budget? He is because he has to. So will Romney because he will have no choice. This is why we need him because you’re going to need a very intelligent person at the helm of this mess. Not some lightweight like Perry notwithstanding the success of Texas.

          • sunshinek67

            “Not all Texans are stupid, an obvious point, but Rick Perry is not intelligent enough and lacks the communication skills to be President. I marvel as to how he even got elected Governor. Now I know why he avoided those debates in Texas! Stop being defensive about Texan intelligence levels. Rick Perry is the problem not the average Texan. Your attempting to defend Perry against the embarrassing debate performances and bizarre speech in NH earlier. Stop putting up a strawman argument that just because we criticize Perry?s intelligence that all Texans are stupid. This is childish thinking.”

            Now, when you go into a room and tell the crowd somebody is stupid, can we assume that you are a card carrying member of Mensa, no? Where is your resume! State categorically these instances where Perry “has to be told” what to do.

            Speaking of being smart, recently Romney stood on a debate stage in Iowa and made a $10,000 bet to Rick Perry that he didn’t change critical language about individual healthcare mandates in his book “No Apology” from one printing to the next. Now, some folks in Iowa, and abroad, found that to be a very stupid comment to make, in Iowa of all places and secondly, it was a complete lie that would have lost Romney $10,000. Small change for him, but beside the point. Additionally, when you add up that 10,000 debacle with his previous elitist forced error (again caused by pressure from none other than Rick Perry, *snicker*), “I’m running for office, for Pete’s sake, I can’t have illegals”. It makes you wonder about his own intelligence level huh?

            Now you take your parasitic mindless drool and find a host over at Hot Gas, they have open invitations for moderate Democrat supporting folk like yourself.

            “Fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee” Rick Perry for President 2012!

          • geotan

            Listen, to some degree every President is advised. We are not arguing this fact. But when you go on national TV and can’t remember the 3 federal departments that you supposedly came up with to eliminate then that is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that you did not come up with that thought, else you would have had it burned in your mind. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Tell me why Perry deliberately avoided debates as much as possible in Texas? Regarding the electorate, Texas or any state, is a whole different game than National politics. While Perry is at home in Texas and a favourite son, that country charm will only get you so far on the national stage. This is to a large degree real politik my friend. How was I parasitic by the way?

          • sunshinek67

            over your inference to Perry’s level of intelligence. You came into the room and threw that out there without even knowing what his IQ score is. Based on your implicit premise of glib equating to adequate leadership, Thomas Jefferson should never have been President, because he sucked at oratory skills. Do the research yourself.

            Someone posted in a diary the other day at RedState one of the earlier President’s writing skills and grammar. It was atrocious. I do not remember which President the diarist referenced. So I guess I am stupid too.

            I will argue that it is Romney’s lack of social intelligence, maybe even common sense, dont know, that prevented him from making a huge error with the “Pete’s sake” & “10,000 bet” gaffes in front of millions. That is worse than Perry forgetting the third department. One series of gaffes that reflect shallow elitist out of touch with the common man outbursts are so much more indicative of character that is required to lead the Presidency, than a basic brain freeze. Have you ever read Fed Up? Probably not.

            Your goal is to come into RedState rooms and declare Governor Rick Perry a stupid man. Ah yes, Parasitic; usually small in nature, requiring some unsuspecting host to attach to for propagation and survival. You want your Rick Perry dumb meme to continue its lifespan through the blogosphere and well versed through the media because you think it is an accurate assessment. You have never seen Rick Perry’s IQ score, and for that matter I haven’t seen yours.

            And I see further downthread, you claim Romney is more “electable”, however what have you to verify that? Mitt Romney’s name is synonymous with political loser. He has a career at losing political elections, and I sure appreciated Newt Gingrich for bringing that up in Iowa. Rick Perry, however, has never lost an election. I am not trying to be condescending towards you, just stating the facts. I enjoy a spirited debate, but you sir, are on the losing end of this argument. You have no facts to prove your assertions. Mindless~

          • geotan

            Romney a conservative trying to get elected in the most liberal state in America, Massachuseutts while Perry a conservative in a comparative sunday school picnic for conservatives, Texas, is supposed to reveal the success of Perry over Romney? I give more credit for Romney to get elected in the first place in ultra liberal socialist Massachuseutts than Perry coasting along in Texas. I welcome Romney’s wealth and celebrate it. As Rush Limbaugh would say, rich people create jobs, rich people made America what it is today along with hardworking middle class folk. Together the middle class and the rich created what America is today. I never said Perry is stupid, I said he is not a communicator and sorely lacks those critical skills to sell ideas. The President is the chief communicator to marshall the people towards the vision of America.

          • heraklios

            You Romney people better realize this: there is no way in hell that me or about 10-20% of conservatives in this country will vote for that s.o.b., even against Obama. In fact, although I would never support him personally, I’d much rather see an Obama second term than Romney ever sniff the White House. You people and the GOP Establishment don’t realize the can of worms you are opening by pushing this guy toward the nomination…

          • geotan

            Tell me exactly why Obama would be better than Romney? What a ridiculous bunch of hyperbole, unlogical, childish thinking that is. Romney’s platform is conservative and will largely be implemented because he is fiscally conservative. Most of your arguments or regarding social issues which while very important won’t solve the jobs crisis. Romney running for President of conservative America is much different situation than Romney Governor of the most Liberal state in America. Stop listening to all these self appointed experts and parroting their thoughts. Think for yourself. Why would Ann Coulter and many other real conservatives support Romney if he was really so liberal? Because we all understand that he played along with the existing abortion law of America and Massachuseutts becuase he would never be able to change anything as Governor. That’s not Liberal it’s real politik.

          • heraklios

            He implements a socialist agenda as promised. Mitt Romney is a socialist too. He implemented nationalized health care in Massachusetts, just like they have in Europe. He supported job killing environmental laws, just like the socialists in the Obama White House are doing now. He supported taxpayer funded abortions, just like the socialist in the White House is doing now. On almost any issue, there is no difference between the position Romney took as an elected official and the position the socialist Obama is taking now. Thus, Romney is a socialist, not remotely a conservative.

            And really, Ann Coulter??? Is that the best you can do??? She is nuttier than a fruitcake.

            Romney a conservative??? What are you smoking tonight??? See the above first paragraph if you think Romney is in any way, shape or form a conservative.

            Which “self appointed experts” am I listening to? If you read my comments on here, while they are sometimes controversial and keep me on the precipice of being banned, they are my original thoughts. Can you say the same or are you reading Romney campaign flyers and cut and pasting them in your comments?

            Finally, Romney “played along” in MA on abortion because of “real politik” How pathetic. Romney is willing to trade human life so he can win office. What a guy! If he said he just honestly believed abortion ought to be a woman’s right, well, I would have strongly disagreed but I could have lived with that. But supporting the killing of human life for “real politik”? Pathetic

            So, Romney will suceed without me then? Well. there are a lot of “mes” all over the South and the country. Put us all together and I wouldn’t bet on that

          • JSobieski

            Romney is a decent man, and would be a big improvement over Obama.

            However, your assertions that he is conservative or that he would be such a strong general election candidate is based on nothing but . . assertions.

            Milktoast Republicans ALWAYS underperform in general elections.

            Gerald Ford. Bob Dole. McCain. Romney.

            Those 4 guys are very similar. All decent men, all poor general election candidates.

          • sunshinek67

            Mitt Romney is not socially smart enough to win this nomination. An elitist will never get enough votes from flyover America. But I will say this, he has plenty of money to buy his way through a long slugfest.

            Also, as to your “electable” argument. Romney governed like a true conservative, huh. Is issuing certificates for same-sex civil unions considered conservative? Writing to LogHouse Republicans declaring that he will be the best advocate for their platform, would that be considered part of his conservative governing leadership? What about his, or his wife’s involvement with Planned Parenthood? Conservative enough? His comments on giving citizenship to illegals currently living in the United States. Romneycare, the basis for Obamacare.

            Funny you should interject Rush Limbaugh into this equation. Mid October I believe it was, Rush declared that Mitt Romney was not “one of us”, he is not a true conservative. You can say that if you want, repeat a lie often enough it becomes truth.

          • ceili_dancer

            This is not my house, but as guests to the party a sense of decorum needs to be maintained. When I first joined Redstate, someone else mentioned this as a metaphor. It works quite well. You coming in getting names wrong, insulting the intelligence of a major party candidate. By the way you did imply he was an idiot, ” Not all Texans are stupid, an obvious point, but Rick Perry is not intelligent enough and lacks the communication skills to be President. I marvel as to how he even got elected Governor. Now I know why he avoided those debates in Texas! ” is your above quote. Banning is a moderator’s priveledge not mine, so my title comment is reflective in you coming into the middle of the living room during a party and defecating in the middle of it. There is a difference in disagreeing with people and just out and out insulting them, either outright (Governor Perry) or by implication(Texas voters and Perry supporters in general). Take it for what it’s worth. Your insults won’t affect my choice in any way and I doubt they will for anyone else.

          • ceili_dancer

            your brief stay comment may be self imposed, because I see either a Hinz rule or a recipep extraveganza on its way.

          • nancysabet

            please hear what I say, Romney is not electable, period.

          • geotan

            Then why nancysabet does the RCP polls consistently show only Romney as beating Obama? Why wouldn’t a conservative who is intelligent, excellent communicator, the only successful businessman who actually created jobs in the private sector not win. Where are Perry’s jobs? The private sector created those first and foremost. Why wouldn’t a man who is proven at turning around failed enterprises like the Olympics be in the best position to turn around the country?

          • sunshinek67

            lost their jobs. While Mitt Romney had illegals doing his lawn and building a castle for the him, others that weren’t as fortunate, those directly affected by Romney’s corporate chop shop czar leadership had their own households turned upside down. Where are those tapes again, you know the ones that the late Ted Kennedy used against Romney when he smacked him down like a gnat, huh? The tapes that show those folks who lost their livelihoods at the directive of Mitt Romney, Mr “Electable”. Oh that’s right, they are property of the DNC ;)

          • geotan

            Did I stumble on the Huffington Post or DNC forum? You sound like you are a socialist who doesn’t approve of capitalism. Romney helped create Staples Business Depot with thousands of jobs among many other success stories. This is not a weakness for him this is a strength! Stop using democrat talking points. Even Gingrich realized the folly of his criticism on Bain and retracted his statement, although it actually revealed Gingrich’s class resentment persona.

          • heraklios

            who made a living making his fellow man unemployed after having grown up himself with a silver spoon in his mouth. I don’t know who represents most Americans less, him or Barry O

          • sunshinek67

            ………… ;)

          • geotan

            Tell me how your comment is not socialist talking points? No nerves struck here just funny bone.

          • sunshinek67

            will come back to haunt him. You remember her don’t you? An 11 year old girl, beaten into a coma by her stepfather. Governor Romney filed a lawsuit through MA courts to pull the plug of life support on her. Amid litigation, the girl ended up reviving and currently lives in a Catholic rehabilitation facility. Had Governor Romney won this lawsuit outright before this little girl had a chance to live, she would have dehydrated to death from his reckless “right to life” philosophies.

            Nothing funny about Governor Romney’s “pro-life” positions.

          • sunshinek67

            because he said Mitt Romney is no conservative.

          • retire05

            I, for one, do not want you banned. I want you to continue to post here, showing your lack of knowledge, and making an udder fool of yourself like saying Perry has never known a “real” job, which will be surprising to many an Iowa farmer.

            And pray tell us, on what do you base your premise that Perry has no communication skills? Perhaps on the debates? Well, golly gee, if performance and Republican is what you are looking for, may I suggest Clint Eastwood or Tom Selleck? Both perform, both Republicans.

            But it seems that Perry’s communication skills are good enough to get Toyota to relocate from California, creating thousands of Texas jobs, along with many other companies. Or are you assuming he sold them on Texas by using sign language? Odd isn’t it that Texas now has more Fortune 500 companies calling Texas home than New York has?

            And as to Perry being “country”, no, you elitist snob, he’s SOUTHERN, and I am sure in your book is worse than being a serial criminal.

          • heraklios

            Now why don’t the rest of the southerners (who provde the GOP the bulk of its electoral votes and Congressional reps) on here tell the D.C. Establishment that you either give us a southern nominee and southern congressional leadership (at least a few spots), or else we stay home or go our own way. I’m tired of snot-nosed eastern elitists who work at places like Bain Capital telling me how stupid and backward I am. Those Bain Capital type folks sound like whiny, effeminate wusses who couldn’t change the oil in their car or change a flat if their life depended on it. Why would any self-respecting southerner vote for people like that over virtually anyone else?

          • geotan

            There you go again as Ronald Reagan would say. Keep burying your head in the sand and deny that Perry can’t communicate on his feet like Romney or Bachman or Santorum. It’s okay, the proof will be in the result. You may overlook this critical flaw but the electorate won’t. Do you honestly believe Rick Perry sat across the table from Toyota and sold them coming to Texas? Don’t you think it had far more to do with crunching numbers, analyzing the costs and benefits and realizing they would save a ton of money? My twelve year old daughter could sell that deal. I know it’s hard to face reality but try.

          • heraklios

            Like I said before, I’d rather have Barry O re-elected than see Romney as President. I couldn’t care less which of the other nominees it is, as long as it’s not Romney. Enjoy your fun today, if your man wins I’ll be having my laugh in about 10 months time.

          • sunshinek67

            in front of average ordinary Americans. Many folks find his elitist rhetoric offensive. He lacks the social intelligence to connect with people from a variety of socioeconomic backgrounds. He has been described as “wooden”, “stiff”, “rehearsed”, “uppity” etc. etc.

          • retire05

            Some time back, in 2009, Rick Perry was on Neil Cavuto’s show. Cavuto asked Perry if he personally went to talk to those companies that moved to Texas prior to their making that decision. Perry responded he did, and that he had been to California recruiting business to move to Texas so many times that Governor Ahnold was probably saying to himself “Oh, no, here comes Perry AGAIN.” How long ago this was, I don’t remember, except that Arnold was still governor of California at the time.

            Yes, Perry has sold a number of companies on moving to Texas by lobbying them himself. That included Toyota, who announced on one day they were shutting a plant down in California and Perry announced, the very next day, the plant was moving to Texas. Perry knew that because he had been in direct contact with Toyota. Him, not someone else.

            You see, a governor should be more than a pretty boy with good hair and a daddy that once ran for president. Like Governor Walker in Wisconsin, and Perry before him, governors lobby companies to move to their state. Jindal does the same. A governor of a state is just as much of an ambassador as they are a governor.

            You want to sell Perry short. But then, you need to explain the success that Texas has been during these rough economic times. You need to be able to explain why so many millions of people have chose to move to Texas, when states like Massachusetts are losing population. You need to explain why, in the last ten years, the bugets of other states have increased while the budget in Texas remains virtually at levels not seen in years.

            Tell me, how much did Romney reduce the Massachusetts budget? How much did he lower the per capital public debt?

            So please, take your spin somewhere else where there are no people like me who are Texan and who have followed the actions of Rick Perry for over a decade. Most of us rejected Romney last go-round, we don’t want him now just because he thinks the nomination is owed to him and it is his turn.

        • tailfins1959

          “Texas voters, those simpleton peons of limited intelligence.” Well … non Spanish speaking ones, anyway.

          But, I may STILL support Perry in spite of that. If he can escape the hole he has dug for himself, he will have earned the nomination. I think of it as winning a basketball game after spotting your opponent 30 points.

          All joking aside: Perry, Romney and/or Gingrich can get us out of this “crap sandwich” economy.

      • txmom4perry

        Notice the repeated attempt by Romney supporters to split the conservative vote. I like Santorum and, to some extent, Bachman. But neither of them has executive experience. Perry has been Chief Executive of the 13th largest ecomomy in the world and Commander in Chief of its 20,000 troops for almost 11 years! This election is too important to allow the liberals and moderates to squeeze us out again by dividing us. Remember, a divided house will fall. That’s what they are counting on.

        • izoneguy

          This is no secret – Romney has always tried to do that. The GOP just rides the candidate most likely to split the vote. That is why the GOP hates Perry. The only one with a real chance to diminish the power of government.

        • geotan

          No the vote is being split because there are several good candidates who appeal to the electorate. This is no conspiracy on anyone’s part. Look at the facts, Bachman made a silly point about HPV and fell. Then Perry proved himself to be in over his head and fell. Herman Cain proved himself to be a liar and hypocrite and unqualified. Then Gingrich reminded us why we don’t want him either. Those are the facts of the process not some vast conspiracy by the evil “establishment”. Stop blaming people for the failure of Rick Perry to appeal to the electorate. This nomination was in the bag for Perry if he wasn’t such an atrocious speaker.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    And I believe Rick Perry can run the best Jobs campaign.

    He’s also got the resume we’d ask for in a Presidential candidate: private sector experience (thanks to the TX Leg being part time), military experience, and lots of executive experience.

    • circlegranch

      on your Facebook, Twitter, send as a tip to HotAir, Newsmax, The Blaze, Drudge, Washington Examiner, Washington Post, The Hill—any and all places you can think of. Let’s melt down some websites with massive communications from us, We the People, that say its time for serious discussion about electing the true conservative that HAS REAL TIME, PROVEN EXPERIENCE.

      • irishgirl

        Everybody get this out stat. Perry is the man for the job Excellent diary.

    • buster93

      The Real Conservative Rick Perry!!! With anyone else it will be the same old Washington . !!!! This is the only time we will have to make any changes!!!! Go Rick Perry!!!

      • geotan

        Why will Bachman or Santorum be the same? Why was Ronald Reagan not labelled a moderate even though he supported abortion at one point and increased taxes? Because he adapted himself according to the needs of the particular liberal state he governed at the time. Some say this is an unprincipled thing to do, others recognize it’s part of the game. Romney will govern as a strong conservative as this is what the electorate is demanding.

    • Common_Cents

      It seems many debates try and focus on starting fights between candidates about their past, and other issues besides jobs jobs jobs, which points directly to obama’s failures.

      Candidates would be smart to double back down on focusing on jobs in their campaigns. the rest is just noise.

    • duncer

      Perry would not be a disaster and may well be a pretty good president but i still prefer Santorum and i believe that the reason his name is not in the news more is that the MSM is so frightened of him that they will not even run a hit piece on him because they do not want his name even mentioned. The primaries are doing a pretty good job of getting the candidates positions on critical issues like obama care, illegal immigration, and getting the judiciary under control plus restraining regulatory agencies. Gingrich coming out with Bolton for secretary of state put the others on the spot for foreign policy. Not one had a bad word to say of his choice.

    • WA_Cowboy

      being part time is huge.

      I had never thought of it before, the Rickster was working in the private sector all the way up until he was Ag Commissioner. So his time as a “career politician” is actually remarkably short, especially given how long he’s been governor of TX.

      Thanks for pointing that out Neil.

  • supergirl2911

    Thanks for the post, I agree. Rick Perry is the most conservative candidate with a great record and will be a great president.

    • APA Guy

      I love Rick Perry…I have said as much in my past comments and believe he would be an excellent president.

      But…

      I just can’t shake the concern I have about his debate performances thus far. I fear that Obama, who is a polished debater, will shred him on stage.

      How can I reconcile these concerns? This inquiring mind very much wants to know…seriously.

      • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

        “I’m beginning to enjoy this so much that, when I debate BHO, I think I’ll arrive early!”

      • supergirl2911

        1st- I don’t think Obama is a polished debater and I don’t think he has anything to say. He will condescend and look smooth at times, but his policies have failed. He will blame Bush and the Congress and he will have the media on his side. That being said, he uses the teleprompter a lot and he pauses a lot. I don’t remember him being a great debater. I remember McCain playing nice and maybe the one time he didn’t play nice, he called Obama “that one”.
        2nd-Rick Perry has already been going against Obama and has a very positive record to run on. I don’t live in Texas, but I don’t think Obama can criticize the Texas jobs as being worse than unemployment
        3rd- I think Rick Perry brings an authenticity to where he stands conservatively.
        4th- I think someone who is sold out for their side can encourage enthusiasm to others to their way of thinking. One problem with Newt and Romney is that they do not come across as true conservatives
        5th-Usually there are only three debates. Even if there is more, he has already show improvement. In that any of our candidates will be debate ready.

      • supergirl2911

        1. The premise that Obama is a good debater is overrated. He uses a teleprompter and he does not have a record to run on. Perry does with executive experience.
        2. Rick Perry has improved. Any of our candidates *should* be well prepared for any debates. There is usually only 2 or 3.
        3. Rick Perry is the Jobs governor. He has done more for jobs in Texas than Obama or anyone else has in the nation. Their side will be left criticizing the types of jobs or saying it is because it’s Texas? Bush? The oil? I don’t know but it will be jobs vs. unemployment.
        4. Rick Perry comes across as authentic in his views. An enthusiastic person will bring others to their way of thinking.
        5. Debate aside, his campaign is doing an excellent job with communication to supporters (rickperry.org) utube videos and commercials. They are timely and consistent.

      • romansdaughter

        Both people say are great debaters, but look who has successfully thrown Willard off in debates…Rick Perry. I believe the same thing can be applied to Obama cause both Willard and Obama are thin skinned and kind of condescending. Besides I have never understood why people think Obama is a great debater…I have listened to his debates and I wasn’t impressed. Obama can’t go anywhere without his teleprompter. Besides what in the world is Obama going to debate about??? His record is atrocious.

        • tailfins1959

          Both know how to appeal to the Latino vote. Romney had better knock off the fake “tough guy” stance on immigration: It behooves him about as well as Dukakis in a tank. It also annoys the nativists as he insults their intelligence. Romney loses both sides that way.

        • APA Guy

          Perry does have a terrific ability to throw someone who is normally calm, cool, and collected off his game by getting under his skin…and he does this by tormenting that person with the uselessness of his record.

          You’re convincing me in a big way with your arguments…not that I’m anyone special, but that generally doesn’t happen with me and politics.

      • geotan

        Trust your common sense always. No matter how much you like Perry, his policies, his record, the man cannot communicate to the level required of a Presidential candidate. Don’t listen to these Perry supporters as they are blinded by their infatuation with him. Even though I’m a Romney supporter and would encourage his election, you should consider a conservative alternative as there are others who do know how to debate and communicate. If I interviewed to be CEO of Redstate or GE and couldn’t communicate well enough they would laugh me out of the room. Why should we expect less of the President of the United States? In fact, the Presidency is largely about communication these days.

    • APA Guy

      I love Rick Perry…I have said as much in my past comments and believe he would be an excellent president.

      But…

      I just can’t shake the concern I have about his debate performances thus far. I fear that Obama, who is a polished debater, will shred him on stage.

      How can I reconcile these concerns? This inquiring mind very much wants to know…seriously.

      • bzip

        I find this odd. Honestly, don’t you think Rick Perry has improved in his debates?

        Do you think that debates are the only thing that wins elections? It is also clear Obama is lost without his teleprompter or have you forgotten that?

        It is hard for me to believe that Rick Perry hasn’t improved in his debates and has improved so much that Perry is even using his debates in his ads:

        Momentum
        http://youtu.be/TWkouA_etks

        Momentum P. II
        http://youtu.be/SSEtv328TVs

        Obama lost without a teleprompter
        http://youtu.be/omHUsRTYFAU

        • romansdaughter

          I hadn’t seen that clip of Obama without his teleprompter. I laughed myself silly and here the media went hog wild over a gaffe here and there of Rick Perry’s. What a joke! This is the guy that everyone says is a great speaker?? LOL

        • okpensfan

          No, debate skill shouldn’t be the main things, but id *does* matter. Uninformed voters erroneously equate debate skill with intelligence. The perception that Perry has put out there so far, and that I hear from my Indie friends is that he is “another stupid Texan”. He will have to overcome that disastrous image to make it the distance.

          I will have no reservations about casting a vote for Perry should he win the nomination – I can’t say the same about most of the rest of the field. But honestly, I’ll be surprised if he is still on the slate by the time the late primary gets to my state.

          • Michael_Handley

            I live in California and I would vote for Perry. Unfortunately by the time i get the chance to vote it will be all over. I believe I will end up voting for Romney because he will be all that’s left. I hope i’m wrong….l

          • geotan

            Don’t worry Michael. Romney is the best choice. He is the only candidate that has ever had a real job and understands how the economy works. He understands that companies compete and that low taxes will make the country more competitive. He understands that companies need regulations but that those regulations should facilitate business not hinder them unecessarily. He understands that it takes blood, sweat and tears to take a risky venture off the ground to create jobs for families. He understands the real world. Obama, Gingrich and even Perry to some extent, don’t understand because they never did it in the private sector.

          • retire05

            Gingrich is the only one that understands what it takes to make the country more competitive? Well then, perhaps you can explain to me why his state, the state he ran has a GDP that is so much smaller than Texas? Care to measure his state’s tax burden per capital to that of Texas? Don’t bother, it is almost twice the burden Texans have to bear in taxation.

            Now, let’s talk about blood, sweat and tears: so Mitt, in his brilliance created Bain Capital. But tell me, has he ever put in his blood, sweat and tears farming, knowing that he cannot minipulate Mother Nature? And now we are to understand that farming is not “private” sector? I am sure a lot of farmers/ranchers will be surprised to learn that, don’t you think?

            As to real jobs, while Mitt was traipsing all over France, on daddy’s money, using a religious exemption to get out of the service, or taking a student exemption, Rick Perry, at the same age, was a willing member of the United States Air Force and learning to fly C-130′s all across the globe. While Mittens was trying to increase the number of Mormans in France, Rick Perry was increasing our national security.

            But I am sure you don’t count military service as a “real” job.

      • heraklios

        So if a hard core liberal could make Obama look silly in the debates you would support that candidate too? I think we need to start looking at what really matters in this campaign

        • APA Guy

          But that has to be, at minimum, a mitigating factor in play.

        • APA Guy

          But that has to be, at minimum, a mitigating factor in play.

      • jonerik

        When was the last time Obama actually debated anyone? Those debates with Hillary weren’t exactly shining examples of debate prowess. He was often flustered and showed a very thin skin.

        One on one, Perry would get under Obama’s skin rather quickly and there’s nowhere to run from the debate stage.

        • romansdaughter

          You see that too, Obama is like Willard both are very thin skinned. And we notice how Rick Perry seems to get under Willard’s skin so I am sure the same thing would happen with Obama.

      • Scope

        Ummmm, uhhhh, ohhhh, uhhh, ummmm. Didn’t Rush play an audio at one time, that went for a few minutes, with all of Obama’s ohhs and umms just in one speech? It doesn’t matter who our candidate is, Obama will be the winner in the media just by showing up.

        • texabama

          and we’ve seen how Obama rambles and stumbles in them. That is where Rick Perry shines. All it will take is plenty of video of them both and it will be Obama who will be dreading the debate. I wouldn’t be surprised if a crisis or two comes along to cancel those debates.

  • tailfins1959

    Perry has a good message, but the endorsement of thug Joe Arpaio that puts people only accused, but not convicted of any crime in his “tent city” is a real turnoff. As Perry demonstrates that he can perform well under pressure, I could jump on his band wagon. I like his potential to save the GOP from the Pete Wilson effect that risks the GOP being a permanent minority.

    • retire05

      When arrested, you get a bond hearing. If you can’t make bond, you remain in jail until your initial hearing that determines if you will go to trial. How many of those inmates in Arpaio’s jail have already made bond, had their initial hearing, been tried or convicted?

      Don’t make statements your rear can’t back up. Arpaio’s been a federal agent and is not an elected sheriff. I am sure he understands he cannot jail someone indefinately. Not all people in county jails have been “convicted” yet.

      • tailfins1959

        You said:
        “Arpaio?s been a federal agent and is not an elected sheriff”

        That is unless the election recorded against Arpaio on 11/04/2008 where Dan Saban ran against him was a non-binding referenum.

        There needs to be a separate holding facility for the accused but not convicted. Jail is meant to be a place of punishment. Holding the accused is meant to prevent flight. Holding the accused, but not convicted should be done under non-punitive conditions as much as possible.

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          Arpaio runs several jails, not just the tent city.

          • tailfins1959

            I clearly heard them say both convicted AND accused offenders are housed in tent city. I’m conservative on lots of things, but not on criminal justice. The public defender should be fully and efficiently funded. If you have a loved one who was accused and acquitted, you’ll understand.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            There are four kinds of people housed in a jail (any jail).

            Those arrested and awaiting a bail hearing. Those who’ve not been able to make bail and who are being held awaiting trial. Those who’ve been to trial, have been convicted and have been sentenced to “jail time”. Those who’ve been convicted and are awaiting transport to state prison.

            In any jail, and certainly in a large jail, all inmates are housed together. The only exception might be those awaiting transport to prison, for security reasons. Inmates are separated by security risk, gang affiliation, in some cases race (security & gang issues), and for protection because of their charges or the fact that they are high profile inmates.

            Inmates aren’t, and shouldn’t be separated because they are awaiting trial, there are too many other much more pressing issues, primarily security.

        • retire05

          to hold people in separate jails. That would require one facility for those who have simply been arrested and not yet arraigned and one for those who have been tried, and sentenced, to a limited time (usually one year or less) in the county jail (lesser offenses).

          If you think that there should be separate facilities, well, I guess you need to lobby to the Maricopa County commissioner’s court.

          And yes, I made a typo. Sheriff Arpaio IS the ELECTED sheriff of his county.

          • izoneguy

            Then we need more “thugs” like him.
            Rick Perry will make sure people like Joe Arpaio can do their jobs
            that the voters voted for without interference from the federal govt.

            Rick Perry/Joe Arpaio 2012

          • Common_Cents

            Perry needs to distance himself from the birther issue w/ Arpaio and not tour with him.

            Why bring this issue up and give Obama obvious ammo in a campaign? It’s gonna make Perry look stupid.

          • gekster

            Whether a drum or dead horse, you are consistant.

            (and it seams you’re the only one to keep bringing it up, and it is still going nowhere. not a complaint, just an observation)

        • westcoastpatriette

          siding with Obama and Holder against one of the most honorable Sheriffs in the nation. Get a clue. Arpaio is one of the good guys who is being smeared by open border leftists and you are agreeing with their smears by repeating them as if they are facts. Sheriff Arpaio is highly respected by many of the convicts. I would appreciate it if you would bother to check your facts before you assist our enemies in besmearing Arpaio.

          • tailfins1959

            The treatment of the accused in the US is abhorrent. Presumed innocent has gone right out the window. Conservatives are right on the over-criminalization of our society, liberals have it right once the victims of over-criminalization are arrested. Neither wants to attack both sides of the problem.

          • WA_Cowboy

            what happens every time an arrest is made? The whole story of the prosecution is told through the media. The defendant’s story is never heard until it goes to court — unless the defendant is foolish enough to talk.

            really, the media should be hands off from all arrests outside of reporting that “so and so was arrested and charged with such and such crime. He posted X for bond and was released pending trial.” Too much guilty until proven innocent in the media world.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            See below and I would add that Arpaio is also a birther.

            I would argue that he is “respected” by those being held in the jail, but I would also note that it’s a non-issue. What is interesting is that the Police Chiefs in the cities that make up Metro-Phoenix generally have no use for him and he’s pretty much an outcast among the County Sheriffs in Arizona.

          • westcoastpatriette

            and I will take it into account to a point, but like everyone else right now it seems, it can take a while before a clear picture about any public servant becomes evident in such a highly polarized climate. And for me, I have heard too many good people give different accounts of their view of Arpaio than the one you are giving so I will proceed with caution going forward.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            are easily found. I stayed away from the “opinion” stuff that is arguable. And, full disclosure, I have absolutely no use for the guy.

          • westcoastpatriette

            I love hard-a** law enforcement types and when I saw one of his tent jails on TV with the inmates in the background cracking up, it cracked me up. I am the furthest thing from a bleeding heart you could find.

            Poor babies. He makes the inmates eat balogne sandwiches and wear pink underwear. That is hilarious to me.

            And so what if he’s polarizing. Anyone who is effective is going to be polarizing.

            Just sayin’, mbecker, just sayin’.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            I have a problem with an arrogant SOB who thinks himself “the law”, as opposed to an enforcer of the the law and costs the taxpayers of Maricopa County half a billion dollars in lawsuit settlements.

          • westcoastpatriette

            And that alone does not sway me. From what I can ascertain, the ones taking him to court–such as Obama and Holder–I consider my enemies. All the more reason for me to like Arpaio.

          • tailfins1959

            they wouldn’t have been arrested!
            Right?

            Cambridge, Mass. has it right on police management: Keep them on a tight leash, controlled by a citizen’s review board with teeth. Strike a conversation up with a Cambridge cop; you’ll feel like a citizen, not a ruled subject.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            against the Sheriffs department, the expensive ones have been civil lawsuits filed by people who were treated abysmally by the Detention Officers, up to and including being killed in restraints.

            As far as the federal lawsuits go, there were more under Bush than Obama.

      • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

        He was a DEA agent, retired and ran for, and was elected as Maricopa County Sheriff in 1992. He is responsible for the Maricopa County Jail system – one of the largest jails in the US – and Tent City is one part of the system. Maricopa County is basically Metro Phoenix and if you are arrested anywhere in the County, whether by a Sheriff or a city police officer, you are booked into and held for trial at the Maricopa County Jail. None of the various cities, including Phoenix, have anything more than holding cells at police stations where prisoners are held pending transport to the Maricopa County Jail.

        Arpaio is a very colorful politician. In terms of his tenure as MCS, it’s very arguable whether he’s done that great a job. His SOPs in the jail have brought dozens of high profile lawsuits and hundreds of millions in both judgments and in pretrial settlements. He prides himself in saving the taxpayers money on jail operations, but any savings have been more than offset by the legal settlements.

        Arpaio is a polarizing figure in Arizona politics, and he will likely be Sheriff as long as he wants to be. The main reason is the Sheriffs Posse, a group of thousands of deputized citizens who volunteer and get to wear a uniform and a badge. No gun. Arpaio started the Posse and the are diehard supporters and election workers. Kinda like the Aldermen in Chicago.

        Interestingly enough, this paragon of conservative love, in 2002, was being investigated by the US Attorney Janet Napolitano. She decided to run for Governor against a very solid conservative former congressman, Matt Salmon. Arpaio endorsed Janet. The investigation went away. She won the election by about a 0.1%.

        Arpaios endorsement of Perry is not a reason to either support him or shy away from him, Perry is a man of accomplishment in his own right and his accomplishments and positions on issues should give a voter all the information they need to make a decision. Arpaio is nothing more than a distraction.

        • tailfins1959

          The GOP is on it’s way to long-term minority status. Perry’s ability to secure and understand the Latino vote could save us from that fate. I would like to see some Spanish language commercials run by his campaign on Univision or Telemundo.

        • tailfins1959

          It is eerily similar to Comit?s de Defensa de la Revoluci?n (CDR) that helps keep the Castro brothers in power!

      • Joshua Persons

        I think your major point regarding making bail is correct, but the bond hearing is after charges, not after arrest. I think tailfins1959 is ignoring the distinction.

        And Arpaio is an elected sheriff.

        • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

          You must be arrested to have a bail hearing. The point of a bond hearing is to try to insure that the accused shows up for trial. Thus, no bond, or a bond you can’t pay, and you go to jail so you’ll be there for trial.

          Even if you walk into a court room, knowing that there is an outstanding warrant for your arrest and surrender, you will first be arrested and processed and then you will have an opportunity to make bail.

          • Joshua Persons

            You’re right that arrest must also occur. I was wrong in not specifying that. But arrest isn’t a sufficient condition for having to post bond. Your statement “When arrested, you get a bond hearing” is wrong. It’s a small point, but tailfins1959′s argument at least partially rests on conflating the legal status of one who’s arrested but not yet charged vs someone charged who can’t post bail.

    • supergirl2911

      If we judge the candidate based on their endorsements. This is about conservatives and finding the most conservative, viable candidate. This is not about Joe Arpaio.

  • bumbee6

    I was looking for someone who had the courage of his conservative convictions and someone who could lead the country based on those convictions. I took the time to consider each candidate and decided on Perry. A couple of bad debate performances should not disqualify everything else he has to offer this country. Come on Perry Team!!! Give us a surprise positive showing in Iowa and on to the other states!!!!!!! We need a man who will not buckle to the liberals!!!!

    • supergirl2911

      Gingrich? I find that almost laughable. I mean no disrespect for Mr. Gingrich, but South Carolina should be looking for the most conservative, viable candidate. I could easier see Bachman leading than Gingrich.

      Attention South Carolinians! Look at Perry again. Talk about him to your friends, write letters to the papers.

      • greyeagle

        Newt is a nice man but he is not and has not ever been conservative. He has a long record and has a lot of baggage that the Obama people would have a field day with. It is telling that he is not getting endorsements from those he worked with in the House. He has no recent experience and none executive. He would make a wonderful Secretary of State, but President. Not really. This is a case of buyer beware!

  • tnguy

    Recent polling data isn’t encouraging, but I’ll stick with Perry until he isn’t there to stick with any longer.

    • http://www.baseballcrank.com Dan McLaughlin

      A hill worth dying on.

    • snowshooze

      And agreed.

  • bzip

    Finally, now if we could get Erick to endorse Rick Perry that would truly help.

    Rick Perry has the accomplishments, the resume, the experience and is by far one of the most conservative consistent candidates.

    Rick Perry can easily contrast his accomplishments to this of the failed Obama administration and Rick Perry wins hands down.

    Who else in the race can tout these accomplishments:

    In Case You Missed It: Texas Dominates List of Best-Performing Cities
    http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/16802/

    There is no other “conservative” candidate that ha the governing experience, the record of accomplishments, and the money/resources needed to be competitive.

    • romansdaughter

      Why he can’t endorse anyone. I think we should respect his position. Now if he suddenly endorsed someone else I would be hopping mad. Smile.

    • rickperryreport

      If Nikki Haley can jump the shark for Romney, why can’t Erickson some on out and say what he should say about Perry, “I endorse Perry for president”.

  • http://www.planettron.com NickDeringer

    Gingrich’s moment as “Messiah of the Month” has expired. The problem is that people are desperate for a candidate and candidates are desperate for votes. But this is the problem with the “Anybody but Romney” hysteria. It could drive voters so crazy it pushes them right into the arms of Crazy Uncle Ron. This would be a disaster on so many levels.

    Perry/Rubio 2012 Because Rick Perry is on Ambien right now and he’s got to wake up soon. He just has to.

  • Wubbies World

    Yes, I am on board with Perry. The reasons listed are solid and I agree. I was already on board. At least I had been slowly drifting there for some time. I jumped fully on board a few weeks ago.

  • standingonthewall

    As tnguy said above: “…I?ll stick with Perry until he isn?t there to stick with any longer.” Exactly!

  • chrisvalentine

    I’ve been a strong Rick Perry supporter ever since he jumped in. Probably one of the only ones in Massachusetts, but there you have it. Every other candidate has effectively disqualified themselves as the best option in my book for one reason or another.

    I only waved in my support when I didn’t realize that his poor debate performances could be connected to the fact that he was on pain medication for surgery. Now that he’s seemingly fully recovered, his performances have been more than satisfactory.

    • kegan05

      I supported Rick Perry from the moment he announced for President and my heat sank when he did poorly in the first few debates. It was obvious he was in pain from his Back Fusion Surgery in July, right before he announced. I think he has the potential to be the next Come-Back Kid and win the nomination after Paul and Gingrich talk themselves out of the race. I am going to donate a few more dollars to his campaign because he is the first politician I have believed in for quite a while. He can do it! American needs this honest man who is a true reformer.

  • Paul_Zummo

    I like the other Rick as well, but Perry has a longer string of accomplishments. Look, it’s either Perry, Romney or Newt, and it’s not even close as to which one of these would be the best president. Le

  • ladyfox

    and for all others who say that Rick Perry is doing great in the debates now but alway add how terrible he was in his early debates. The Rick Perry you see now is the real Rick Perry. Early in Summer he had serious back surgery and during those early debates was going through more pain than we can probably imagine. He has said now that he wishes he had the surgery in January. Look at the recent debates and judge him from that. I have no doubt he would do well against the current president in debates. Each debate now he is getting better and better.
    I am about as old as Yoda. I have many battle scars. In my infancy I fought for Goldwater and the day after the election began the long battle for Reagan. I was at the 1964 Convention and booed Rockefeller. You see the Conservatives had taken much from the Establishment and could take no more. What is happening now is the continuation of a long battle. After Goldwater won, the Establishment did all possible to defeat the Conservative Goldwater and I predict the same would happen now if a Conservative, not one of their own, were to be nominated.
    Erick, thank you for everything. What you are doing now is what I have seen conservatives over the years do every election, be a good sport, not take sides. This election is so important. We cannot do as in other elections and wait.
    Please Erick, it is time to standup and fight for a true conservative, and one who can win, Rick Perry.
    Benjamin Franklin said we were given a Republic only if we can keep it.
    I would urge everyone to watch a Mel Gibson movie “The Patriot.” We sometimes forget what our forefathers went through to found our great nation.
    May God give us all the wisdom and strength we need to restore our great Nation.
    God Bless you all and God Bless America.

    • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

      I want to thank all the RedState members who were there in the days of Goldwater, Reagan, etc. (pttx333 is included in this) and who have fought for MY freedom and that of all the other younger RedState members. You are truly appreciated.

      You’re right, the real Rick Perry has been let out of the gate and is surging, surging, like a human Secretariat. I’m sorry if I keep repeating that analogy, but I watched “Secretariat” just last week and was astonished at the many similarities between the horse and Perry. Secretariat lost one race (to everyone’s shock) and his owner later found out it was because he was in pain, he had an abscess in his mouth. It reminded me of Perry’s back surgery. Secretariat also had stiff competition from several other horses and ALWAYS started out behind, but then would surge ahead right at the last minute–just as Perry has always done in all his elections. I have no doubt that, just as Secretariat did the impossible in the Belmont Stakes (and as Tim Tebow has often done the impossible), Perry will astonish his opponents.

      I hope Erick endorses Perry soon. The courage and conviction the other moderators have shown this morning is outstanding and worthy of deep respect. They are putting their support behind a man that many have written off. That takes courage. They’ll be rewarded, wait and see!

      • onenationundrgod

        There are a lot of people who should be putting their support behind Perry! I just don’t get it. Everyone says we have no good candidates(Palin & Trump) But they of all people should be getting behing Perry. Palin had no problem supporting Gov Perry this last election so I question what gives, hes still the same person she endorsed for Gov of Texas this last election.

        Thank you so much to the Moderators who have made their stand, It is truly commendable! If is great to set our sights on the winner!!!

        • supergirl2911

          I don’t have a link, and I guess it’s possible that I imagined it. This was in the summer.

          • heraklios

            would be huge as far as building momentum for Iowa, SC and Florida

          • heraklios

            would be huge as far as building momentum for Iowa, SC and Florida

          • texasroots

            probably go with Romney. While on her bus tour, she said she could go would Perry or Romney. Why Romney, because that’s who Fox is pushing until at least the election, then switch to the current president to re-elect (my opinion).

          • izoneguy

            She does not need to…..
            She is more interested in doing more TV shows and raking in the bucks.
            Palin supporters waiting for her to run again – are in for a long wait.
            I predict 15-20 years from now – after the looks are gone and cash is in the bank.

          • kegan05

            I supported Sarah Palin when I held my nose and voted for John McCain and kept supporting her until she bummed me out with all her indecisiveness, waffling, dithering, teasing and refusing to jump in the fray and DEBATE. She obviously decided she could not hold up in the Debates and said she would not run. Now she is making strange comments about “it’s not too late………” Blah, blah, blah. Don’t bother, Sarah, you have lost most of your former supporters.

            My vote will be for Governor Rick Perry who has considerably more than 2 years as Governor of our larges state in the lower 48! He is THE REAL DEAL!

      • lizzie

        lapatriette: yes, like “Secretariat” but “Hidalgo” is the horse race movie (and “Dreamer”) that remind me of Rick Perry. And every Gary Cooper film ever made, including the comedies, but especially two biopics: “Sergeant York” and baseball’s Iron Man, Lou Gehrig, “Pride of the Yankees”.

        Resume and accomplishments notwithstanding, I find it odd that so little is noted of Rick Perry’s temperament, resiliency, and natural leadership.

        In his recent video interview with DMRegister’s Kathy O, Perry admitted his July 1 back surgery had affected his energy level in the first two debates – he had only taken pain-killers for ten days, but was not yet back to running.
        But, Perry only gave that one sentence. Then he said:

        “No excuses. It’s what it is.”

        He repeated “It is what it is” a second time in that 27-minute interview.

        If you have never seen “Hidalgo” or “Dreamer”, both based on true horse race stories, do so, and you will understand.

        Rick Perry’s current dilemma is no longer about those early debates. He has been terrific in the last three, and, even better in the Dec. 3 Huckabee Forum.

        Gov. Perry’s current dilemma seems to be his 2011 pension (how did he retire without actually retiring?), and that the media is obsessing over Gingrich, Romney, and Paul, and the polls.

        Arpaio? eh, O’Donnell and Quayle for Romney? endorsements do not matter much.

        Electability?
        I am the disillusioned dem who will never vote for Romney or Paul, not even as a protest vote. I find it inexplicable that Perry’s “negatives” with “conservatives” are precisely the issues that make him the MOST electable to tens of millions fiscal conservative Democrats like me who have been abandoned by the party of Harry S. Truman, who want leadership from someone who embodies the Carhartt ad slogan:
        “Stands True when others Break Down”.

        Rick Perry needs to do CBS “Face the Nation” before Iowa and New Hampshire. Bob Schieffer ended his show on Dec 18 with a jaw-dropping editorial calling for a new Congress to be elected for one year to do the actual work needed, while the current elected Congress gets their pay docked for that one year while they continue to do nothing :)

        Fingers crossed that Iowa’s veterans and hunters out-caucus everyone.
        Anyone who watched the Dec 13 new episode of NCIS saw the Carhartt poster in former Marine sniper Gibbs’ basement workshop, on the wall above the locked drawer where Gibbs keeps his sniper rifle.

        Perry must embrace his inner Carhartt!

        see y’all another time!

        • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

          Although I did have a little “kid’s abridged version book” based on the movie, so I know the story very well. It was a little paperback that I wore to death. It helped that Viggo Mortensen played Frank Hopkins–he plays Aragorn in “The Lord of the Rings,” of course, my favorite LOTR character :D

          Rick Perry is going to defy all expectations, I do believe. (Oh, and by the way, I think the “Paul surge” is phony, especially when more Democrats than Republicans support him). Surely the Iowa caucus is for Republicans only? I hope so.)

          • 1bunny

            you can change your registration on the day of voting (at leat if I remember right when GC and others were commenting on this). So… the dems can skew the votes. IMHO it should be a closed primary in all states. Sorry just the way it should be. No last minute changes at election time. When I moved to Alaska it was open primary then the next time to vote it was closed, the Republicans had gotten the rules changed,. I was upset but I was young and didn’t understand how others could vote just to mess up the election results. Now I am all for closed primaries. Just for an example my boss in TX tried to get me to vote for Hilary so it could help promote her over Obama but I couldn’t do it. Sigh…maybe I should have. He was a stauch republican but was playing the sytem.

        • greyeagle

          Perry drawing a pension and salary is allowed under TX law. There are specific conditions for the various circumstances. What he is doing is within the law. People who say otherwise are lying and have not taken the time to read the laws.

          • gracie

            I can say it is done every day. It is called the Rule of 80. When your age and years of service equal 80 you can “retire” and start receiving persion.

            My husband and I both did it as a matter of survival.

            The primary reason is Texas Employees are underpaid compared to other states. Remember we are a right to work state…no active union. My husband was Regional Employee of the year, at the top of his merit scale but I would be embarrassed to tell how little he made. He had a second job on weekends his whole life and when he reached the 80 formula he retired so that he could work full time at his second job.

            The only reason to put up with the low pay was this option to retire with benefits and a chance to get ahead in the later years. It is NOT like Social Security where there is a limit on how much you can work. Retirees have paid their own money into the system since Day One with no option.

            Texas Employees were cut this year as stats were shown over the weekend, I think by avagreen. Yet we already worked short staffed…I worked in Protective Services and with the Elderly yet almost constantly covered as much as two complete caseloads with no overtime allowed. I was always rec’d for merit raises but there was no money..

            Remember Perry’s decision was made before he decided to run. But in any case what he did is exactly the norm.

  • tercel

    Perry is all three legs of the conservative stool. Economic…under his leadership of low taxes, low regulation, and tort reform 40% of all the jobs created in the entire US in the last 2 yrs have been created in Texas.
    Social…Perry’s values are genuine. He is and has always been pro-life. Under his watch Planned Parenthood has been defunded in TX. He will appoint strict constructionist judges. He passed a parental consent law in TX.
    Defense…Rick Perry is the only candidate in either party that volunteered and served in the US military achieving the rank of Captain in the US Air Force. He volunteered during Vietnam. Not drafted. No deferment. When his country called he stepped up to the plate. He understands the threat of our border issues. He understands the threat and will not back down to mad men from Iran.

    He is a winner. He has been re-elected 3 times as governor of the world’s 13th largest economy and 2nd largest state. He has never lost an election and he has been down in the polls before.

  • Scope

    and I can’t thank all of the undersigned enough for this fantastic endorsement of the candidate so many of us have known was the best, most qualified, and correct for these times. Washington is broken, and President Perry aims to fix it with a big stick.

    • izoneguy

      Not just a stick, Perry is bringing the wrecking ball to DC!!!!

      • Scope

        I was thinking of the line “talk softly, but carry a big stick.” But you are soooo correct, Perry is bringing a wrecking ball to DC, and it can’t happen soon enough.

        • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

          …in light of what was included in yesterday’s endorsement by the Des Moines Register.

  • beee

    Perry’s always been the one candidate that has the executive experience, a family man with conservative values which as the longest term Governor of Texas has a real record of accomplishment..JOBS JOBS JOBS…

    …Everyone has been too busy focusing on who’s the best debater, or who has the slickest buzz phrase (9-9-9) as well as glossing over real problems such as flip flopping because the “powers that be” say only this one is electable or “the smartest one” Funny because look what we got in 2008: The supposed GOP candidate that was electable because he was the GOP media darling against the so called “smartest one” Look where that got us..!!!

    Remember what Reagan said..We need bold colors, no pale pastels..Give voters a true choice..We need a likable candidate..not someone that lectures or talks down or is constantly giving a history lesson..

    Perry 2012…Give him the look he deseves!

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    I don’t mean anything negative by that. It just shows me that I’m in good company as an undecided voter. I also realize it’s possible that some of the unsigned are supporters, but not willing to endorse at this time.

    • streiff

      into reasons for “the unsigned.”

      • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

        I really don’t know what those reasons, and I’m sure each has their own reason. But they are still unsigned nonetheless. I couldn’t endorse anyone right now either.

        • Bill S

          and I certainly don’t speak for any of the rest of the “unsigned”. Perry is my #1 candidate right now, and if MO had a primary tomorrow, I would vote for him. But I have a soft spot for Newt also and would not be upset if he wound up being the guy.

          Romney? Liberal
          Bachmann? Her “Tardasil” rants turned me off of her big time
          Santorum? One-dimensional, but his Ron Paul takedown in the last debate put him up a few notches on my scorecard
          Huntsman? Distinct possibility, but he’s so far out there in the polling right now that I don’t see how he can recover. He’s moved way, WAY up on my scorecard in the last couple of months
          Paul? A stark raving lunatic who (and I say this for the record) I would NEVER VOTE FOR, under ANY circumstances. I’m trying to come up with a good riff on this that I can post on the front page soon.

          So while I didn’t sign Dan’s diary, I was o-so-close…

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            I agree with everything you’ve said here, except I probably have Perry and Newt closer. The other difference is I can’t say for sure who’s name I’d write on the ballot if the election were tomorrow.

          • lineholder

            Except that I’m probably a bit more in the undecided column at this point.

            Perry has a lot in his favor. I just have a lot of questions about whether or not he’s going to succeed in making enough of a connection with voters that will let us bring in a win against Obama.

            In spite of all Newt’s faults, he’s got valuable experience that could be to our nation’s benefit right now as well, so I’m open-minded on that one. But the way it’s going, the question with Newt is will Conservatives abandon him if he does end up getting the nomination.

            Romney – NO
            Ron Paul – NO

            For the others, it would take next to a miracle for them to bring in a win.

      • http://www.baseballcrank.com Dan McLaughlin

        nt

  • barleycorn

    I’ll be pleased as punch to support him, but I don’t think he can.

    If Gingrich were to fade then I think Romney will (finally) start to consolidate support.

    • izoneguy

      so he breaks from 25% to 26%, Romney will keep pushing for RINO support and lose the conservatives in the process.

      Romney vs. Obama would be a disaster. For Romney.

      • heraklios

        the movement will begin in earnest for a third-party libertarian/conservative candidate to jump into the race

      • heraklios

        the movement will begin in earnest for a third-party libertarian/conservative candidate to jump into the race

        • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

          **no*text**

          • heraklios

            So who cares?

          • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

            then I really don’t think there’s anything else for me to say.

          • heraklios

            So who cares?

        • thirstyboots

          n/t

    • http://www.baseballcrank.com Dan McLaughlin

      against a more conservative opponent, at least not one with cash. It may take until June to beat him, but it can be done. And I think if we get to a 3-man race people will take a harder look at the value of Newt’s words vs Perry’s actions.

      Mind you, I like Newt a lot. But the downsides and dangers of going to war behind Newt are obvious.

      • thirstyboots

        Just looking at the 2nd choice of voters in various polls, it shows that Romney would win a 2-man race against anyone and pretty easily.

        • http://www.baseballcrank.com Dan McLaughlin

          Mitt’s been running for forever and he just stays stuck around 25% while the various people running to his right capture about twice that. I don’t think it’s because any of them (Perry included) have totally captured voters’ imaginations; it’s because voters want someone more conservative than Mitt, and are trying to decide who that is.

          • thirstyboots

            Wake up.

            WaPo/ABC poll:
            http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-gingrich-romney-in-dead-heat-nationally/2011/12/19/gIQAAzat5O_story.html?hpid=z1

            Just affirming the CNN poll that had him at 28%:
            http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/19/cnn-poll-gingrich-lead-gone-dead-even-with-romney/

            In the past weeks it was obvious that this was going to happen once Gingrich would lose a bit of support – Romney is the 2nd choice of most Gingrich voters.

          • thirstyboots

            Wake up.

            WaPo/ABC poll:
            http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-gingrich-romney-in-dead-heat-nationally/2011/12/19/gIQAAzat5O_story.html?hpid=z1

            Just affirming the CNN poll that had him at 28%:
            http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/19/cnn-poll-gingrich-lead-gone-dead-even-with-romney/

            In the past weeks it was obvious that this was going to happen once Gingrich would lose a bit of support – Romney is the 2nd choice of most Gingrich voters.

            The idea that Romney wouldn’t start consolidating support once people would run out of flavors of the month was mere wishful thinking. Not serious analysis.

      • barleycorn

        Ron Paul isn’t going away.

        Likewise Perry and Gingrich.

        If this multi-candidate logjam continues into March then I won’t be surprised to see Romney start to rack up some 30-35% wins like McCain did four years ago.

        Eventually someone has to win. The longer there are four or five polling between 5 and 25% the better it is for Romney.

  • jrfromdallas

    I wrote a post yesterday saying how disgusted I’ve been with the lack of endorsements from the Tea Party and/or Tea Party candidates like Nikki Haley/Christine O’Donnell (she’s a joke), and Sarah Palin. What are they waiting for? What is Conservative Talk Radio waiting for to endorse Perry? Levin said he would support either Santorum or Bachmann but they lack real accomplishments and it is easier to say you would do something without actually having to impose your views the way that Perry has in Texas. If these people are going to say that the early debates is what is holding them back then I call BS because that makes them no better the the Liberal Bomb Throwers who stop at nothing to tear down our candidates. It is time to step up and back the only true Conservative running that has a record of Conservative governing.

    • Paul_Zummo

      I don’t think he will, but with Rush sometimes you have to read between the lines. I was listening to Friday and it really sounded like he was all but endorsing him.. Then again, that could be wishful thinking on my part.

      • jrfromdallas

        Say that he was hoping that Santorum, Bachmann, or Perry would come back. He should start the revolution by endorsing Perry before Iowa. That would be great and then he could take the credit for pushing him over the edge.

        • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

          I heard he was saying good things about Perry. Even saw one tweet saying Steyn had endorsed Perry, but I can’t find any links on the subject. Did anyone watch Faux News this morning?

          • Common_Cents

            http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/286068/gingrich-gestalt-mark-steyn

            “The Nine Zones and Fourteen Steps have been distilled to the One Singular Sensation: Newt lui-m?me. The SAS, the British special forces, have a motto: ?Who dares wins.? Unlike Mitt, Newt dares ? and he may yet win. As the old Dem bumper stickers used to say, ?Newt Happens.?

          • racetraitor

            Bwahahahahaha! Like it! :)

  • Tbone

    While I don’t want to over shadow the endorsements of the signatories, I do feel I must add my endorsement of Perry as well, for the reasons set forth above. :-)

    • osolono

      http://www.thelibertarianpatriot.com/2011/12/ron-paul-leads-latest-ppp-iowa-poll.html

      The fact is that most conservative voters don’t want Perry. That guy, along with the rest of the current group of Republican hopefuls, are driving us over a cliff.

      Inanity’s Comet, back early.

      • Tbone

        Perry is the only one I rust not to drive us over a cliff.

  • paladin1

    the Perry bandwagon rolling, then we are doomed to another generation of wandering in the wilderness, just like the time after the Republican Contract With America until 2010. This post is a clarion call to all of us, and particularly our friends in Iowa; work for Perry, write and blog for Perry, donate to Perry! Let’s work together to get this campaign rolling like a steam engine!

    Thanks Redstate Contributors, your speaking out for Governor Perry is huge!

  • nathanz

    I am so thankful for you all who have written this beautiful article, I am a huge Perry fan, and I couldn?t said it and better myself! And I trust all the polls at all! If you look at back the last 3 months candidates have gained or lost 30 points in less than a month, it?s a joke!! I am really confident that Governor Perry will be our next POTUS!

  • missourirancher

    even before he threw his hat in the ring. In all my research of the candidates he has the best record and resume. I have never wavered from my choice and spend most of my time sharing my support for him with others. Please put my name on the list? Thanks from this Conservative Missourian, Warren D. Love

  • nathanz

    I am so thankful for you all who have written this beautiful article, I am a huge Perry fan, and I couldn?t said it and better myself! And I don’t trust all the polls at all! If you look back at the last 3 months, candidates have gained or lost 30 points in less than a month, it?s a joke!! I am really confident that Governor Perry will be our next POTUS!

  • texasroots

    this is greatly appreciated. You all are awesome! Great piece. Rick Perry all the way. Perry, Perry, Perry.

    • texasroots

      not Lou (I need glasses),

      • Bill S

        Her new nickname is “Lou”. The cat’s out of the bag.

        • texasroots

          this is hilarious. Actually, I sit as far as possible from pc and it looked like Lou to me. Then I read it again closer and saw it was Lori.

    • romansdaughter

      Thank you all so much! Dan, great piece!

  • TSquared

    … that will get you where you’re going…

    • Kyle-MI

      NT

    • gekster

      Could you elaborate.

      • texashistorian

        It isn’t a Ron Paul wagon? that would be my guess here . . .

      • TSquared

        … I like Rick Perry… I do…

        But he’ll not survive the general. More thick tongued, brain frozen, dear in headlights moments are yet to come.

        Any gaffe – no matter how small – will make the headlines.

        • texasroots

          It will help. Counter the bad with the good. Don’t listen to all the negative stuff, it helps.

        • WA_Cowboy

          we all make our mistakes.

          but its in poor taste to criticize someone for being thick tongued and brain frozen and then misspell “deer in headlights”.

          doing so has a way of discrediting what you say.

    • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

      They’re the ones with defective wagons. At least Perry has a RECORD. He speaks from his heart and doesn’t have to look at polls to decide where he stands, and he’s NEVER sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi. When he makes mistakes he says so and apologizes for them. He has been married only ONCE and is still in love with his wife, and he’s got two great kids who support him 150%. He was Tea Party before there was Tea Party. He’s for states’ rights and is a true Jacksonian.

      Some haters gotta hate, I suppose. But they’re getting more illogical by the day.

      • heraklios

        Perry, Bachmann, Huntsman, Santorum all could unite the party and, given Barry O’s dismal poll numbers, bring us a likely win in 2012.

        • texanlady

          Perry and Huntsman – Yes! Not sure about Santorum but probably not.

        • Common_Cents

          Their 22,000 straw poll favored Gingrich at 31, Bachmann 28, Romney 20, Santorum 16. Perry 2%

          You’d think Perry would be popular w/ this group. Why didn’t he participate, why did he get a low support level?

          • lineholder

            Secretariat.

          • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

            :D :D :D

          • lineholder

            ,

          • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

            Only polls that matter are the ones where you vote. Although if you enjoy the polls, the ones coming out of Iowa are pretty interesting, provided you discount the Ron Paul lead a la Howard Dean.

          • Common_Cents

            Why didn’t he participate in the call? Why doesn’t he have more traction w/ the TPP? I’d think that’d be in his strength?

          • lineholder

            It’s Perry trademark in campaigning to “come from behind for the win”. It’s worked well for him in TX. And his supporters compare him to Secretariat, the race horse that had the same style.

            He’s got the creds. He’s got the experience. He’s got a lot in his favor. But for some reason, he isn’t making a connection with voters that will establish him as front-runner. And I can’t help but wonder how much the approach he’s taking has to do with that.

            It’s been frustrating, because I do believe he could win. But it’s like watching someone hold back…not yet…hold back…and they end up letting opportunities like the forum pass them by.

            Perry may have had other commitments that just didn’t let him participate in the forum, and I may be totally unfair in making the analogy in this case.

          • romansdaughter

            I didn’t know he missed a forum.

          • Common_Cents

            I thought for sure Perry would want to participate in a Tea Party Patriot forum call with 22,000 patriots voting. And he got 2%?

            Where and who is supporting him if its not TPP folks?

        • colonelflagg

          …Perry, Bachmann and Santorum could do it. Not necessarily in that order in terms of conservative choice, but they’re all better than Noot.

      • izoneguy

        That would be terrfiying!!!
        Imagine a “Republican” candidate to the left of Obama on defense matters????

        • heraklios

          because they know the GOP will never nominate Paul and if he stays in 1st or 2nd place in the early primaries, he will suck the oxygen from the conservatives in the race thereby guaranteeing a Romney nomination.

        • heraklios

          because they know the GOP will never nominate Paul and if he stays in 1st or 2nd place in the early primaries, he will suck the oxygen from the conservatives in the race thereby guaranteeing a Romney nomination.

        • http://www.changeforrickperry.org louisianapatriette

          That’s why I said everyone’s scared to death of him, plus plenty of other reasons. The people who are opposed to Perry haven’t given me any good reasons yet for their views; they just hash and rehash Gardasil and instate tuition. You should’ve seen me over at HotAir. I couldn’t believe some guy was STILL harping on instate tuition. I told him to “Stop beating the horse, Jim, it’s dead.”

          • heraklios

            Very few voters judge a candidates conservative credentials on immigration or even foreign policy. The size and scope of government, tax policy, and individual rights and fidelity to the constitution are what matters.

        • thirstyboots

          on monetary and law enforcement than on defense ones.

          For all his faults, Ron Paul is loyal to the constitution. He’d fight every war declared by the Congress. Sure, we’d see less military spending, but at this point that we’d be a good thing. And we’d get rid of all that UN and similar organizations garbage.

          • thirstyboots

            my mistake

  • westcoastpatriette

    the fact that so many people are taking their time to make up their minds is a good thing and reflects caution among Americans who are more than weary from being betrayed without end.

    As the vetting continues, I believe more and more of us will come to the same conclusion as you all have–Perry is the most outstanding candidate–especially compared to the two front runners.

  • Finrod

    Too many Perry supporters have been too obnoxious here for too long for me to support the same candidate as them. If it finally comes down to Perry vs Romney I’ll go for Perry but not until then.

    • texashistorian

      is that a defensible position? Not taking a shot at you, just asking. Why would you care about what some posters on a blog site write if you care for a candidate’s message, style, proposals etc.?

      • Finrod

        Same idea.

    • westcoastpatriette

      no text

      • Finrod

        But when the site owner spams the front page with a couple dozen posts saying the same thing (September 30), slagging someone that’s not even a candidate, just a potential candidate, someone that if they announced would probably be the biggest threat to the candidate that announced at the redstate gathering about a month previous, well to me that’s going beyond obnoxious into words I can’t use here without violating site policy.

    • gekster

      Regardless of the supporters, look at the man and his career in office, how he has lived his life, and his core beliefs.
      Saying you can’t support someone because of supporters is just a lame excuse. Requires no work on your part.

      • Finrod

        Here’s a free clue for you:

        Read All The Words.

        Did I say I can’t support Perry? Let’s look at the tape. Gee, I think I said that if it came to Perry vs. Romney I’d support Perry. Bzzt, too bad, thank you for playing our home game, you get a case of Turtle Wax and a box of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco treat, as your parting gifts.

        • gekster

          I said
          “Saying you can?t support someone because of supporters is just a lame excuse.”

          And it still remains a lame excuse.

          You said
          “Too many Perry supporters have been too obnoxious here for too long for me to support the same candidate as them.”

          I was addressing that statement, irregardless of any cnadidate.
          Use the same reading comprehension you want me to use.

          • jakeofalltrades

            Which is the bigger fool: the guy who won’t support a candidate because of something one of his self-proclaimed supporters did or said, or the guy willing to argue with such a maroon?

          • gekster

            I was making a point as opposed to argueing.

            I think.

            Maybe.

          • jakeofalltrades

            no text

    • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

      [which is a prelude to danger]

      The only saving-grace of this posting is:

      Finrod?s First Law of Bandwidth:
      A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.

      • Finrod

        .

      • jakeofalltrades

        Below, Finrod accused you of supporting one of his ideas…

        That has to be the worst insult I’ve ever seen on this site.

    • federalfarmer1

      He certainly has had most favored candidate status since I’ve been here. Didn’t he announce his candidacy at a redstate party? This is just another weak sauce endorsement of a mediocre politician by a conservative publication that should be holding all of their feet to the conservative fire. Instead of endorsing and running interference for moderates like Perry, we should be pushing them from the right.

      I can’t say I see the attraction to Perry at all, other than that most of the rest of the field is so bad. He wouldn’t get forty percent against Obama. The left doesnt fear Perry like they do Newt, they mock him. And as a Christian, I don’t want to have to listen to him abuse the Word to make political points because he’s too lacking in nuance to argue against gays in the military or social issues on the merits. He and bachmann, with their lazy rhetoric, reinforce every bad stereotype of Christians.

      • gekster

        The posts of candidate favorables and unfavorables are niether endorsements or non endorsments.
        They are just posts as to the facts and opinions of the candidates.
        The only candidate to get a continuous non endorsement is RP.

        And you would have to point out all of the abuses of the ‘word’ that Perry has spouted off while being the Governor of Texas.
        Just how would Perry abuse the ‘word’.

        • federalfarmer1

          Can I point that out without being banned?

          What’s funny is I can criticize romney a lot more at national review without comment, but here, anything critical of Perry brings attacks and moderator threats. This place has been more about advancing Perry than advancing conservatism.

          When the Obama starts zinging Perry for the fortuitous land deals that earned him his money, or close donor e connections to

          • streiff

            anti-douche policy which you violate regularly.

          • federalfarmer1

            Its not worth completing my thoughts anyway since I’m a douche who wants to promote conservatism more than Rick Perry for president.

          • Aaron Gardner

            Instead you just demean good conservatives in the comments section. Like a troll.

          • federalfarmer1

            If Perry supporters can repeat garbage dnc attacks about newts so called ethics issues, an attack from the left, and nobody can even mention the obvious issues the democrats will pile on perry, which raises crony capitalist issues, then that is simply a double standard.

            Call me a douche all you want, I’m simply pointing out the obvious double standard here.

            If that gets me banned, that’s fine. Just proves my point.

          • Repair_Man_Jack

            That was pathetic, Fedfarmer. Positively, absolutely and pathetically pathetic.

            Let’s see…

            Heads – I win because you agree with ME that Rick Perry is E-VIL.
            Tails – I get banned and PROVE that ALL RSers are hypocrits.

            This puts us on the horns of a real dilemma. Do we ban you out of decency towards the other members of our community, or do we keep you as our version of the old commercial that goes . “This is your brain. This is your brain on drugs.”

          • Scope

            yup perfect analogy.

          • Xasteius

          • acat

            Never mind that Team Obama will certainly dredge the bottom of Pelosi’s file cabinet – legal or not – in the general … it’s “unseemly” to mention them here?

            Seriously, the point of a primary is to vet the candidates. That includes airing the problems, like Cain’s mistress or Perry’s history wrt Gardasil, or Romney’s history of straddling issues.

            Tell you what, I hear Skyrim’s due out soon, why don’t you go playtest that for a bit, say, until Sep. 1 2012?

            Mew

          • streiff

            If you could read you would have noticed that actually Newt has received quite a bit of defense from us. If you could read, that is.

          • Scope

            or some Bulls to castrate. It’ll take your mind off your anger and hatred against Perry and all those that support him.

          • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

            …and so far there has been no reply at all. How do you know he hasn’t requested one himself?

          • buddyp

            or does delay of a week or two mean denial of a diary for some reason?

            I wish there were some communication from the relevant person(s) on this. I’d appreciate it.

          • gekster

            Niel posted this.
            Please note the last line.

            Technical note on Profiles and Diary Requests

            Posted by Neil Stevens (Diary)

            Monday, December 12th at 3:10PM EST

            Both profile editing and diary requesting should work now.
            Hit the Contact page if you still have problems, though.

          • dpmapper

            I saw that, and my diary request went in on the 12th, but supposedly it’s still pending. I’ve even sent emails to the contact page with no response so far. What’s up?

          • Bill S

            Don’t.

          • streiff

            you haven’t promoted anything. You make half-baked comments, like “you thought” RedState had endorsed Perry when, in fact, it hadn’t and hasn’t. And you snivel a lot about other commenters and moderators. Quite honestly, I wonder why you bother hanging around here as the site obviously isn’t up to your very high standards. Maybe they could use your wisdom at National Review of one of the many Ron Paul sites.

          • gekster

            there’s enough already pointing out your lack of thinking and reasoning,
            so I don’t see the need to.

          • Scope

            The Dallas Cheerleaders, and the many foreign donations would make any of the Perry donors look like someone just passed the collection basket in a Sunday service. What about that fortuitous lot next to the Obama house in Chicago that they bought for far less than value, from a convicted felon? That doesn’t mean that I buy your arguments against Perry, but just wanted to show you how dumb your charges are.

            I have seen post after post here highly complementary to your guy Noot. I have seen hundreds, if not thousands of comments in support of your guy Noot. Charging that RS has been in the bag for Perry all along is an outright lie. Have you been reading EE’s horserace diaries over the past few months? He’s been very highly critical, and destructive for Perry, up to and including saying that if he doesn’t win the nomination he will go back to Texas as a loser and a fool.

            From reading your comments since you’ve been here, it is more your purpose to rip apart Perry, than to promote your candidate. Do you want some cheese to go along with your whine.

      • streiff

        that didn’t work our very well for you, did it?

      • Repair_Man_Jack

        I front page here and am not ready to endorse anyone out of this collection of toe-cheeses just yet. I’m waiting for just one of them to seriously step up instead of stepping in it.

  • rick554

    Rick Perry for President.

  • Castor

    My analysis concluded that although Bachmann and Santorum are good conservatives, they lack neither the organization nor the cash to fight a long primary campaign against Romney. They should get out at least after Iowa and endorse him. After this decision, I sent Perry a campaign contribution. C?mon Erick , Join us now !

    • heraklios

      I agree that he is a true conservative and has a better chance of securing the nomination than Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman or even Gingrich now. I am still more motivated, however, by what I am against than what I am for. We must stop Willard Mittens at all costs, whether it be by nominating Perry or whomever.

    • heraklios

      I agree that he is a true conservative and has a better chance of securing the nomination than Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman or even Gingrich now. I am still more motivated, however, by what I am against than what I am for. We must stop Willard Mittens at all costs, whether it be by nominating Perry or whomever.

  • Castor

    And sent him a campaign contribution. Rick?s the pick

  • Whacker77

    Oops! I thought I traveled back in time to RedState circa December 2007.

    Perry 2012 is Fred 2008. Both were great on paper, not so much in the minds of most voters though.

    I like Perry, but those gaffes were too much for me. Still, I’ll vote for him if he’s the nominee.

    • littlehouse18

      nt

    • supergirl2911

      as a campaigner and leadership experience. He has a more substantial record than Fred. I was for Fred and I had never been to Redstate. But he lacked the money and the enthusiasm. I am only guessing on the money.

  • nepanyrush

    When there is an article published titled ?Is Perry Dumb? and they quote a former Republican governor as saying ?Perry is George W. Bush without the brains,? you have a perception problem.

    When you go to a New Hampshire College and tell the college students, to audible gasps, that if you are over 21 to vote for him, but if you are under 21 you cannot vote can still work on the campaign, then you reinforce that dumb image. (What, students over 18 but under 21 cannot vote? Really?)

    When you use phrases like: ?This ain?t a day for quitting nothing,? then you make Sarah Palin seem like a gifted orator who must have captained her Harvard debate team. (A fifth grader speaks better than that!)

    When you point to a favorable poll and stated it came from “Hot Gas,” you begin to look like someone who doesn’t have a clue.

    When you claim that Romney is a flip-flopper in a debate and try to roll off examples, but draw a blank, and then in a later debate, blank out when listing three departments you would cut, then you created indelible images in the public?s mind.

    When you spend one debate on the economy where it seems you answer ?energy? for everything, saying the same thing over and over again, then it appears you do not have a clue about other components of the economy.

    When you do not answer the questions posed at a debate, but begin to answer questions posed to someone else several questions ago, it creates an impression that you are little slow minded and don?t know the answer to the question posed. Then when you expose your strategy with ?you get to ask the questions. I get to answer how I want to,? it doubly reinforces that impression.

    When you give a campaign talk that becomes an Internet sensation because viewers think you might be drunk, it adds to the image problem.

    Perry might be a good politician in winning Texan elections ? getting money, calling in favors, etc. ? but he has zero chance of overcoming the image he has created for himself and winning a general election. Obama would eat him alive in a general election and people do not want to elect someone in these troubled times that seem like they are not very smart. It is time for the anti-Romney forces to coalesce around another candidate. All of the other candidates on the stages seem much brighter than Perry, quite frankly. Even with her mistakes (Concord, NH; vaccine effects) Michelle Bachman seems like she is ten times as bright as Perry.

    • sunshinek67

      Cannot invalidate a man’s entire record of more successes for economic growth because of early debate performances, affected by recovering back surgery. Well maybe you can. Many others won’t, despite the media American Political
      Idol loving culture.

      People want change, and to many Perry represents that change because he has AN ACTUAL RECORD unlike ANY on that stage. Those talking head soundbites don’t do the actual leading. Pity a fool that thinks that they do~

      • Common_Cents

        We can scream jobs jobs jobs, record record record but it’s just not reality. If there is a sea change in America that might be tired of being duped by an empty suit teleprompter reader, maybe. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

        Perry has a huge task of overcoming these image smears. obama will throw a couple billion worth of media at it as well. It will be a white knuckle ride praying Perry doesn’t have an oops moment in a debate.. Debates matter greatly, as it is an unedited opportunity to expose obama in front of millions.

        • sunshinek67

          ……. ;)

          • Common_Cents

            Debates are critical because that is the only venue where we can dominate and expose obama. Perry has proved to be extremely white knuckle high risk.

            Since everyone will get slimed, it comes down to who best can excel in debates and also challenge the media and think quick on their feet. That’s just reality.

          • sunshinek67

            Reality is the debates are one thing for Gingrich, but his own record of scandals and controversy is coming back to haunt him and his poll numbers are taking a nosedive as a result. Reports abound that his own campaign is still in disarray, forgetful filings (Virginia ?), skeleton crews in Iowa and abroad. Have not researched or analyzed but there are reports now surfacing of inappropriate campaign spending. The prospect of him managing a country is an almost unbearable prospect at this point.

          • sunshinek67

            The best way to judge leadership skills is to view the candidates ENTIRE record, both professional AND personal. Who has shown consistency in BOTH areas. You are just wrong on your face if you think debates, beating up Obama and the media, will lead a country to victory and success. Wrong~

    • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

      ….to address this “dumb” posting.

      These quotes can be grouped as being jovial ["HotGas" is great example] or off-the-cuff [for no one is always "on"]. The “drunk” attack is resolved when the entire presentation is viewed. The brain-freezes have been overcome, and the intent to reply to prior Q/A is not unique to Perry.

      It is the absence of SUBSTANCE in the “gaffes” that is most telling; as opposed to The Newt, he isn’t invoking his in-depth knowledge of history to argue that the POTUS has every right to oppose the SCOTUS. Perry is smart to invoke his Texas experience [which contrasts with the absence of a track-record that others could cite] when discussing energy, tort-reform, deregulation, and jobs-growth.

      Let not the search for perfection become the enemy of the good [in this case "excellent"]!

  • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

    First, the MSM/LSM/ELM push for Bachmann is intended to detract from Perry; to a lesser degree, this is being manifest via puff-pieces for Santorum.

    Second, the Newt-Implosion is occurring prematurely, for he hasn’t KO’ed Mitt…who received a soft-ball interview on FNC ia BB [away from the studio, thus perhaps unable to insert key-quotes].

    Third, awaiting input from a site which could prove pivotal in effort to unite Evangelicals [and TEA Party Movement activists, to a lesser degree, perhaps].

    http://www.thefamilyleader.com/newspress/press-releases

    • lizzie

      that is what really matters in Iowa. I doubt the Evangelicals are going to coalesce behind one candidate based on vanderPlaats Family Leader.

      My last comment here, so:

      1) Ron Paul will be taken down by the entire GOP establishment – already starting because they know, just like I do (from over-exposure in 2008), that Paul’s base is growing by migrants from Obama’s far-left anti-war Moveon-Code-Pink-Free Gaza base.
      Even tho the Iowa caucus is for registered GOP, I imagine people change their registration.

      2) lapatriette: you would love the film version of “Hidalgo”. try to NOT think of Viggo Mortenson as the real-life Prius driving pacifist that he is. Like you, I prefer his on-screen personas, especially Aragorn and Frank Hopkins :)

      well, this thread will be too big for my PC buffer next time I am online, so, until the next time –
      and, please realize that Obama is NOT raising one billion dollars, and is in the process of having to re-create his field forces outside of Brooklyn. The strengths of his 2008 campaign did NOT survive.

      I have other online avatars and the absence of enthusiasm is very very real.
      The real liberals are still deluding themselves with their defense of PPACA (Obamacare) and dissecting voter demographics. They are in an echo chamber that makes it impossible for them to understand that 2012 is a major anti-incumbent wave, and that may include TEA partiers as well as Pelosi liberals.

      If the GOP nominates Romney, enthusiasm will be so low that the margin of victory for Obama will be the Senate women making “protecting women’s reproductive rights” the #1 issue – solely to drive enough voter turnout to decided the election while more than half the country is too depressed to bother to vote.

      Two weeks is a lifetime in politics, and, just like football, anything can happen in the last two minutes.

      • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

        You write: “Perry already got the Huckabee bump on Dec 3 and that is what really matters in Iowa. I doubt the Evangelicals are going to coalesce behind one candidate based on vanderPlaats Family Leader.”

        When did Rick get this bump?

        Why shouldn’t the Evangelicals coalesce behind Rick, particularly if they note how The Newt is caving AND issued TERRIBLE quotes on Face the Nation [unforced errors]?

  • littlehouse18

    I’ve made a contribution to Perry, and he’s got my prayers. I’m just very concerned because the press is now ignoring him purposefully. I never hear his name mentioned anymore. They don’t want to run against him. When Huntsman was(is?) down in single digits, they gave him plenty of mention.

    • audax

      NT

  • http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

    Perry was the candidate I wanted to like the most, and disappointed me the most. You can’t go back and make a first impression. Simply put, August and September were Perry’s months to shine…and he did anything but.

    Since, he has been pretty solid. But time and again, at debates and elsewhere, he was below expectations. It is difficult, if not impossible, to recover from such blunders in weeks. Conservatives like myself may be upset about this, but it is a fact.

    • heraklios

      As a true conservative, who’s your candidate now if Perry is so bad?

    • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

      Has your first-impression ever proven incorrect?

    • supergirl2911

      and really, that is unfair. He entered the race and the campaign was getting their sea legs, I imagine. It is reasonable that a campaign and a candidate will make mistakes at any time, but specifically when the attacks accelerate 1000% in 1 to 2 weeks.
      I like Perry because before he announced his candidacy, he led the Faith Forum in Texas, praying for the nation. That resonates with me.

    • tyman

      Your statement could be said of ALL of the candidates, including Obama.

      The country’s at too critical a juncture to simply say, “Well, Perry blew his chance, now move on.”

      The first impression, I think for a lot of people, was based on a preconceived notion that was way too unfair.

      Perry’s record is what sets him apart, and that’s what should ultimately matter.

      Using the first impression test, Obama should be a shoo in for re-election because everyone thought he was the Messiah.

  • gawken

    Serious..superb editorial..

    Perry’s supposed debate “issues” are more of interest to the media , the inside the beltway elites, and assorted left wingers.

    Pery is plain-spoken,..and this is resonating with the vast majority of those following the primar season.

    remember Gary Cooper?? Tall, lean, laconic, taciturn….that’s Rick..People are tired of words..they want deeds, actions, and Perry delivers..

    Once Bachmand and Santorum drop out, and the majority of Cain’s supporterd get over their dissapppointment, most of those voters..the evangelical conservativres..should move to Perry.

    He can come out of SC with a solid 35% of the vote, and in a two man race against Newt..he will prevail.

    • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

      2-man race will be [unfortunately, because Newt had insufficient time to KO him] Perry vs, Romney.

  • hoosierchristian

    I’d like to see Erick’s rebuttal to this argument or, if he agrees, why hasn’t Perry received HIS endorsement?

    • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

      …as long as possible.

      Nevertheless, by having bashed Mitt overtly, if no one else is left standing by early-2012, his support for Perry will be defaulted.

    • streiff

      to make assumptions as to why names do not appear on this endorsement.

  • jgge

    He is by far the most qualified of all candidates to run for President. Debating skills in 30 seconds format be damned because President do not govern and must not govern in 30 second sound bites.

  • Thomas Crown

    But count me in.

  • carmen

    My son was born premature (10 weeks early, and my water broke 10 weeks before THAT — I spent 10 weeks on bed rest/in hospital) and was given a 5% chance of delivering a healthy baby.

    Let me tell you, I prayed.

    I delivered a healthy, if small, baby boy, who let out such a scream when he was born (this after being told his lungs might not be fully developed.)

    Feeling absolutely touched by God, I promised myself to never “pray” over trivial matters. You know? I pray when I truly believe I need God’s help or guidance – and not for anything less.

    When it comes to this presidential (and primary) election, I have prayed to God that He will find it in His heart and infinite wisdom to help us choose the right man (or woman) to protect and preserve this great nation. I feel THAT strongly about the future of the United States should we fail to make the correct choice.

    While I will absolutely vote to evict Obama – no matter what – I want to be THRILLED with my choice – not holding my nose.

    Perry has been in my prayers (as well as Bachmann and Santorum). I absolutely believe that we are on a collision course with disaster otherwise.

    Thank you for the video. I still have hope.

    • izoneguy

      Life is fragile and must be protected.
      You will discover the joys of parenthood are worth the struggles!
      My first son was born 5 week premature.
      My wife had developed preeclampsia (pregnancy-induced hypertension)
      We came close to losing them both. After an emergency C-section
      and 4 weeks in neonatal intensive care our son came home.
      Now he is a high-energy 15 year old who is pestering me about
      getting into a drivers education class.
      And oh yeah – Both of my sons are for Perry!

      • Scope

        I am so happy that those two smart apples didn’t fall far from the tree. The drivers ed class is not a bad idea, just be sure to stock up on governors for the gas pedal. Speaking of Governors! LOL

  • thurman

    As a physician and small businessman in Texas, I have reaped the benefits of Gov Perry’s leadership for the past decade.

    Not nearly enough attention has been given to his leadership and courage on the issue of tort reform.

    Texas has led the nation in imposing malpractice caps to prevent runaway jury awards on pain and suffering. This has led to a stunning turnaround in malpractice insurance rates in Texas, and a huge next influx of physicians from other states over the last several years.

    He then followup up with more fundamental “loser pays” tort reform this past year.

    All of this has infuriated the left and their bedfellows, the sleazy trial lawyer lobby. This should be music to all of our ears.

    Gov Perry’s actions on creating a business-friendly regulatory and legal environment in Texas has been a huge part of Texas’ economic success the last decade, and hasn’t been highlighted enough.

    I was pleasantly surprised to hear the Gov considering a run this summer and he has been my choice all along.

    I’m glad to hear other conservatives quietly coming back to reconsider Gov Perry again at this crucial juncture.

    The man has a long record of actually governing and doing things, so yes he has some things we all regret. This is a result of being a governor of as massive, diverse state such as Texas for 11 years. You have a long record to comb through. It would be far much easier to run as a congressman or senator who can cherry pick his/her votes, without ever having to lead or make tough decisions or compromise.

    I think part of Gov Perry’s difficulty is the split in the evangelical and TP votes between himself and Cain, Bachmann or Santorum. As these candidates drop from the race in the near future, I would hope their supporters take another look at Perry and realize he fills all their needs as a candidate.

    Yes I cringed as much as anyone during his gaffes the last several months, but I have been impressed with his last 2 debate performances and see the man we in Texas all know well finding his stride again.

    Gov Perry will continue to have my unwavering support until the end. The worst case scenario is that he comes back to continue be my Governor.

  • bzip

    Good New for Perry in Iowa:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2011/InsiderAdvantage_IA_1218.pdf

    Paul: 23.9 %
    Romney: 18.2 %
    Perry: 15.5%
    Newt: 12.9%
    Bachmann: 10.1%

    • thurman

      Also this RS endorsement just got linked on “Hot Gas”– right above these latest poll results.

      This has been a good morning.

  • WA_Cowboy

    but this is far more eloquent and detailed than what I wold have come up with. Excellent work, shared on FB and twitter.

    I loved the line about Perry reminding people of their dads. Of course, mine spoke with more of a european accent than a southern one, but so true, and I would trust my father to do what is right for the country more than any of the other clowns in washington dc.

    Thanks for putting this together!

  • bdirks

    What states does Perry win that Romney can’t?

    • streiff

      to turn out to vote for the nominee

      • bdirks

        Please.

        • supergirl2911

          nt

      • bdirks

        There is not a single state that Perry puts in play that Romney can’t. Am I saying Perry can’t win? No. But the margin of victory would look more like Bush in 200 than Obama in 2008.

        Unless a massive contingent of selfish and childish conservatives take their ball and go home instead of doing their civic duty next year (Newt calls them the Perfectionist Caucus you might recall), Romney wins every state won by McCain, the ones that any R would win (Indiana, Virginia) and puts a host of others into play that aren’t even up for discussion if it’s Perry: New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc.

        How am I wrong?

        • streiff

          is the GOP establishment, Mormons, and the staff of National Review. They don’t constitute a majority anywhere.

          As a Rombot you assume the GOP base will turn out to vote for Romney. I won’t. It has no reason to because the GOP base has nothing in common with Romney.

          A Romney run would look just like his 2008 re-election campaign in Massachusetts.

          • bdirks

            I will pose my original question one more time. Will someone please answer it?

          • acat

            Perry’s a hell of a lot better on the campaign trail than Romney – in part because while Romney was posing with $100s in his pockets, Perry was .. campaigning.

            Romney comes across very calculating, CEO-aloof, Perry’s much better at working a crowd. Romney’s been hiding from interviews for a while, and blew his last one against supposedly in-the-tank Fox, Perry’s been on Letterman and Jon Stewart – supposedly pro-Obama.

            So. Go ahead. Show me where Wafflin’ Willard actually does *better* at something he’s got less experience at, and generates less excitement doing…

            I’ll wait.

            Mew

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            Romneys endorsement would throw the game to Warren. He’s not real popular in his “home” state.

          • acat

            but he’d probably do a lot better if Perry showed up in an F-250 with Texas plates.

            Mew

          • streiff

            how about stopping this attempted threadjack and moving your infantile electoral forecasting to a diary.

            This is not a request, it is a requirement.

          • acat

            He has no real legs… they’re an optical illusion.

            Mew

          • gabs

            people who don’t want to vote for Obama and who don’t know (or know but don’t care about) the difference between an Evangelical and a Mormon. People for whom Newt is someone they remember from back in the day and don’t like, even though they don’t care about the adultery, people for whom all they know about Perry is flubs and tangents that seem more calculated to appeal to emotions than to address their concerns. (Fair or not, those are things Perry has to contend with.)

            This is not to say Romney is the only one who can do it. He doesn’t have this vote. But he has less of an uphill struggle in the general than Newt or Perry.

          • acat

            The calculating, trying-to-find-the-sweet-spot candidates do not do as well in the general, even against a weak sitting POTUS, as the more personable ones.

            McCain.
            John F’n Kerry.
            Dole
            Bush 1.0 (re-election)

            This is a list that Mitt Romney would feel very comfortable in .. and that’s the problem.

            Mew

          • gabs

            if not for Palin. For every Republican that liked her, there were more that stayed home rather than think she could be President if McCain died in office. That’s not snark. There were Republicans that just didn’t go for her and she didn’t run this time around because she knows it. Bush and Dole lost to Clinton, who, no matter what else can be said of him, is very talented at politics itself. Dole was thrown under the bus by the party because they didn’t even want to have that fight. Even Newt once said he hated to go into a room with that to “negotiate” guy because he knew he couldn’t out maneuver him. That’s not advocacy of Clinton, it’s just a fact. A nobody from the deep south. The only other time that happened was when Carter beat Ford – a man who had not been elected but rather selected by a President who left office in disgrace. So not at all the same thing as beating Bush, who came to office after being Vice President for a very popular President.

            Bush 2.0 took as much of a page from Clinton’s book as he could – purely on the level of how to play the game, and he got two terms out of it.

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            It wasn’t Palin that cost McCain the Oval Office. It was Obama being willing to say absolutely anything and not being called on it by the press, which we expected, and by McCain who was probably afraid of being called a racist. When all was said and done, McCain acting like a US Senator is what cost the election.

          • gabs

            The choice of Palin struck many as a gimmick. “He’s running against a black guy. He’s trying to look hip by picking a woman.” Doing things that seemed gimmicky is what made him seem less like a Senator – or a President. By the time he went on SNL it was as if he just wanted it to be over. Had he run as himself and picked someone people viewed as qualified to take over for him should the need arise, he’d be President right now. It’s not as if the country was pining for a black guy, a lawyer or someone who had served in the Senate for a short time, much less a guy who was under 50. He was beatable then, he’s beatable now – more so now. But not if the prevailing thought continues to be that the voters have to be scolded till they all become card-carrying Republicans. That’s not going to happen. People who are ready to vote Republican – the swing vote that’s needed – will reject that even if it means Obama wins.

    • thirstyboots

      The idea that the GOP base won’t turnout for Romney is beyond absurd.

      • acat

        Seriously, every time the GOP runs a squish, we either lose, or it’s so close we end up with suckage on the down-ticket races.

        Mew

        • Bill S

          Sorry, but we do not need another John McDole.

        • thirstyboots

          Just like the base will turnout for whoever is the nominee next year.

          I think your post is very telling though. Maybe the problem is that you’re the one who’s not in tune with the GOP, not Romney or Ron Paul. I mean, you mention every single presidential primary winner in almost 30 years.

          Actually, it gets even funnier: 4 years ago the GOP quickly became divided amongst Romney, McCain, Huckabee (an economic populist/socialist) and Ron Paul. Yet, according to you, the GOP wouldn’t turnout for any of those guys! What gives?

          Before that, it was divided between Bush 2.0 and McCain! Again, according to you, two guys that the GOP wouldn’t turnout for. I mean, doesn’t even make sense.

          Four years, it was between Dole and Pat Buchanan (a slightly different version of Paul).

          I mean, if the GOP base doesn’t turnout for these guys in the general, why the heck the same GOP base overwhelming supports them in the primary?

          I think the issue with many folks here is that they believe that Red State is representative of the GOP base. It’s not even close. If it were, Perry wouldn’t be polling in single-digits and with terrible approvals even amongst GOP voters. It’s a small niche of voters but, as your own post proves, with basically no weight in the real world.

          • acat

            In short, you’ve not refuted a single fact cited.

            McCain, Dole, and Bush 1.0 lost badly – after the Reagan honeymoon was over – and Romney would fit right in with them.

            Hint: Even if “The base” you’re counting on shows up, it only guarantees around 33% of the vote…

            This is why a good campaigner is needed… and Romney sucks on the trail. His time was 2008, he blew it by not defeating old warhorse McCain.

            Mew

          • thirstyboots

            You argue the base won’t turnout for guys like Romney, McCain, Paul, Bushes, etc.

            Yet, those same guys have basically collected the entirety of the primary voters in the last 30 years.

            Maybe there’s a ultra-secret base that doesn’t turnout for the primary or the general, who knows?

          • acat

            First, what I said is that these guys aren’t exciting, and won’t win. History shows it.

            Second, your assertion that just getting the base is enough is just as flawed as your assumptions that the base acts as a monolith, and that a squishy, calculating politician can win the independents… history shows they can’t do that, not in numbers sufficient to win.

            Third, you’ve posted no proof, just assertions that, given the quality, seem to be something you stepped in. Let me be nice and hit you up some knowledge.

            In the 2008 primaries, McCain won 48%. What’s interesting is to look at the voting in States after he was the presumptive nominee – i.e. after Super Duper Tuesday – for instance, McCain won 47% of the vote in the Illinois primary .. and by the time we voted, he was quite clearly going to be the nominee. That means 53% in Illinois cast protest votes. Won the base over, did he?

            In the 2000 primaries, Bush 2.0 won 62%, and swamped McCain, his only real competition, on Super Tuesday. Even there, Bush only carried 67% in Illinois – no specific breakout available, overall chart here – and he went on to barely beat Al Gore.

            Dole shows a similar trend, not competing well at all until Super Tuesday. (data) and gathering significant protest votes later in the process. Dole went on, as I’m sure you recall, to fail to dent Clinton, despite The Dress. Dole sucked as a campaigner.

            1992 was a more interesting year because Bush 1.0 was not able to brush aside Ross Perot .. in part because he *also* couldn’t brush off Pat Buchanan. This tells me he was probably not the right guy in the first place .. but that goes back to the 1980 primary, when Reagan named Bush 1.0 as veep to unify the ticket and shut down a third party challenge movement. Note that the movement happened anyway, but John Anderson lost .. badly.

            Mew

          • thirstyboots

            The problem of your theory is that McCain got 48%, but the guys who got the rest were Romney, Huckabee and Paul – three other people who, according to you, don’t excite the base and don’t represent “the GOP”.

            Same for Bush and McCain.

            The point is that nearly 100% of the GOP tends to support politicians you believe are “squishy” and “unable to turnout the GOP”. Don’t you see how completely ridiculous and nonsensical your point is?

            I think your mistake is believing that you and like-minded people are representative of the GOP base. Doesn’t the fact that you don’t like any primary winner in 30 years tell you something? More, that you don’t even like the guys that lose but do well (Romney 4 years ago, McCain 12 years ago, etc.)? There’s a huge disconnect between you and the GOP/conservative base – which is also true for RedState, see the Perry support he gets here compared with what he gets from the real world conservative base. That completely affects your vision of what the GOP base will do in the general elections.

            Also, my “assertion” that “just getting the base is enough” or that “the base acts as a monolith” only happened in your head, as any literate person can tell.

          • acat

            Every candidate you’re pointing out lost… with the exception of Bush 2.0, who *barely* won in a legal court battle that hamstrung his administration.

            Tell me again why I should go along with the majority of the party when they insist on nominating losers…

            Mew

          • thirstyboots

            The point is that those politicians that you call “mainstream losers” are the ones that the GOP and conservative base votes for in the primary. And that’s why the base will turnout for them – politicians that in your view are mainstream losers – in the general too.

            Again, there’s a huge disconnect between you and the base and that’s why you don’t understand that the idea that the GOP base won?t turnout for candidates that in your mind are mainstream losers is absurd.

            If the GOP base didn’t like politicians that in your view are “mainstream losers”, then those same politicians wouldn’t get almost 100% of the vote in every primary for 3 decades.

            Again, I think the problem is that some of you start believing that RedState is representative of conservatives or the GOP base which is a huge mistake. Check Perry’s approvals with the GOP electorate and then imagine how would he fare in a RedState poll.

          • acat

            Seriously.

            They. Lost.

            Dole. Bush 1.0. McCain.

            Bush 2.0 barely scraped by, likely cost us some down-ticket races, and hamstrung himself.

            Why the {expletive} would I *want* to march in lockstep with a bunch of {deity-cursed} lemmings with a track record of defeat?

            Mew

          • thirstyboots

            didn’t turnout. When they lost, the base still turnout for them. But the base alone isn’t enough.

            The point is that a “GOP base” that dislikes Romney/McCain/Huckabee/Paul only exists in some people’s head. As we saw 4 years ago.

          • acat

            they couldn’t get the independents, and also because “the base” is a figment in some peoples’ heads.

            They won the primary because “they were moderate enough to be electable”.

            Funny how this is the same argument that’s being put forward for Romney…

            Mew

      • Paul_Zummo

        It is astounding to me that the Mittbotts continually just take the base for granted. Part of me hopes Mitt wins the nomination just so we can soak in the “what the hell happened?” stunned stupidity we’ll be reading the day after Obama defeats Romney.

        • bdirks

          I asked a simple question: what states do you see Perry winning but Mitt losing?

          • acat

            The simple fact is, Romney sucks as a campaigner.

            He lost in 2008, which should have been a shoo-in for him.

            He lost to John McCain, who should have been easy to knock out.

            Romney is lousy on the campaign trail, and will not generate coattails. He will need “reverse coat-tails” to get him over the threshold into 1600.

            The model is, if you prefer, Clinton’s re-election, or Carter’s. Neither were as easy as they looked.

            Against Clinton, we ran Bob “war hero” Dole, who couldn’t figure out how to campaign. Against Carter, we ran Ronald Reagan, who could.

            Do the math.

            Mew

          • thirstyboots

            in the primary.. oh wait.

            Are you really trying to convince people to vote for Perry with the argument the other guys aren’t good campaigners and aren’t electable?

          • acat

            I’m refuting a pro-Romney argument.

            I never brought up Perry, that’s all you.

            Mew

          • acat

            if Romney’s numbers keep trending downward, there’s no doubt in my mind that someone will be the anti-Romney .. and the nominee.

            Especially if, as expected, several of the footnotes drop out after Iowa.

            Mew

      • Change Jar Conservative

        It’s what the elected one of them does afterwards.

        The questions are, can Perry win? and can Mitt win?

        If you think the answer is Yes (which I do) then Perry is an easy pick over Mitt for most of us (this is by definition a conservative GOP website).

    • jrfromdallas

      We see through Romney’s double talk and fake attitude and last I checked Texas is a pretty important state.

      • bdirks

        You would vote for Obama, or not vote (which has the same effect) if Romney is the nominee?

        • acat

          Ask Dole or McCain or Bush 1.0 how that feels.

          You’re wasting your time arguing that Romney can excite independents when he can’t excite more than 25% of the base.

          Mew

          • bdirks

            Mitt may be stuck at 25%, but that number is no lower than what any other candidate has dreamed of so far.

            Once the flash in the pan (which never got higher than 35% or so) was fully extinguished for Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and now Newt, they have fallen to the teens or lower.

            Say what you will about Romney, but who else in the race has a base of support that has remained so unwavering, loyal, and committed?

          • acat

            How do you get from “75% are for anybody *but* Romney” to “Romney wins” ?

            Remember, it’s not just about the White House. We need the base – 75% of whom loathe Romney – to show up *in force* to flip the Senate and keep the House … and yet, 75% of them loathe the guy at the top of the ticket.

            This is not a recipe for victory, although it is one for #Winning!…

            Mew

          • notpropagandized

            Good point. Romney has a really low ceiling and Gingrich rise is evidence that it’s an immoveable ceiling, at least for time being.

            This post is timely. Friday I realized that as neat at Newt can appear, he has no chance to build an effective team to govern without creating a revolving door of disaffected other-smart-people. Then Saturday night I was thinking I might end up with Romney, and then less than 5 minutes later was saying out loud, to hell with it all, I’m locking down on Perry and I ain’t changing, period.

            Then today, this shows up. I can feel it in my bones, a Perry resurgence. Texas accent and all. He’s the most pure conservative and THE MOST honest and trustworthy. No more triangulating to the one most recently guessed to be conservative and electable.

            By the way, went to therapy and got my runtogether wording fixed!

            Thanks acat.

          • acat

            As with many things in life, overuse has its’ own set of problems…

            (Cheshire grin)

  • Scope

    and I’m hoping to see it in many other places as well. Has anyone forwarded it to the DesMoines Register? LOL

  • keepourrepublic

    “he?s won more statewide elections than the rest of the GOP field put together”

    I don’t think that’s correct.

    Rick Perry
    Governor of Texas – x2
    Lieutenant Governor of Texas – x1
    Commissioner of Agriculture of Texas – x2

    So Rick Perry won five statewide elections.

    Mitt Romney
    Governor – x1

    Huntsman
    Governor – x1

    Gary Johnson
    Governor – x2

    Rick Santorum
    U.S. Senator – x2

    The rest of the GOP field has won six statewide election.

    Just saying.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      ..

    • streiff

      …..

      Perry has been elected Governor of Texas three times, 2002, 2006, 2010.

    • Repair_Man_Jack

      It truly has to be calling card of The Metrosexual Douche. Other people can seriously say things. Apparantly, you can only just say them. Pathetic. I can’t stand that particular turn of phrase.

      • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

        …when noting that clause; the author is simply providing data.

        • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

          …just cited by O’Reilly.

          11% of the phrases Americans hate most is this one.

          [Just Sayin'!]

          http://tribune.com.pk/story/308728/whatever-deemed-most-annoying-word-poll/

        • keepourrepublic

          My intent was to convey that I was just presenting information.

    • Change Jar Conservative

      3x governor
      2x ag commish
      1x lt gov

      If you count Gary Johnson (which most don’t) then you’re looking at “as many as the entire rest of the field”

      I suspect most people don’t really count Gary Johnson as being in the field since he’s not even listed in polls.

      which would make it 6 to 4.

      • keepourrepublic

        I will accept that correction.

        It is only proper, however, that Gary Johnson be included at least by us political junkies. Moreover why should we conservatives accept and assist in the media blackballing any one of our candidates, let alone the candidate with the best record of actually limiting government?

    • supergirl2911

      Gary Johnson isn’t running anymore. Not as a GOP.

      • keepourrepublic

        moved to the Libertarian nomination. Admittedly he’s going to do one or the other soon, but until then he counts.

  • danielhill2008

    Bravo to all the signatories of this post. It’s about time. I have been pretty burned out on RedState lately due to all the, well, just because. I’ve been a member since way before the big format change, albeit under another username, but I’ve been quite discouraged lately that the site I consider the premiere conservative blog has been all over the place in this primary season. I’ve read a lot of convoluted reasoning for supporting, or not, this or that candidate, and at times I’ve wondered if I fell into some alternate universe, and was reading DK or Huffpo, what with all the frankly venomous commentary.

    I realize everyone has their reasons for supporting, or not, a particular candidate, but I am greatly encouraged to see this unified front. Granted, some signatures are conspicuously absent, but this is the clearest consensus I’ve seen in a long time here. That they all share my opinion doesn’t hurt ; )

    I think Rick Perry can represent himself well in a debate against Obama. I have intentionally passed on most of the debates this season, because I consider them to be superficial and inane, and I’m not a fan of American Idol or Dancing with the Stars. But who ever said Obama can debate anyway? You get him out from behind his TelePrompter and he sounds like a moron, particularly when challenged. Perry will challenge him plenty.

    This country has to do a 180 PDQ, or it won’t be this country anymore, and for my money, Rick Perry is the one to be behind the wheel to execute that maneuver. His conservative bonafides are clearly superior to any other candidate, and his vision for this country is the vision I grew up with, back when America was the undisputed leader of the free world, and the ideal for the entire world. She needs someone with that vision, and I believe Rick Perry to be that one.

    Bravo, front pagers, and thank you for your courage and honesty.

    • jrfromdallas

      I have been in the same boat as you although I am new to RS. My frustration has been the lack of support from the Conservative talk radio shows who Perry has been good to over the years (are you listening Hannity?). I can’t for the life of me figure out why/how these guys can’t justify supporting the only real conservative with a 11 year record to back up all of his positions. I don’t care for Palin but I can’t understand why she doesn’t support his candidacy when she supported him for Governor last year and talked about what a great Conservative he’s been. I am pulling for Perry and he’s up to 16% in the latest Insiders Advantage Poll that was just released trailing Romney by 2% and the Mr.Magoo by 8%. If Paul wins Iowa it will ruin the Caucus for that state forever. He is dangerous and he has NO shot of winning the general election. I also can’t understand what Haley was thinking about endorsing Romney when she has said that Perry has done more to help her then any other governor. Just dissappointed that Perry hasn’t been given the endorsements that Romney has gotten.

      http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/12/19/iowa-paul-24-romney-18-perry-16-gingrich-13-pdf/comment-page-2/#comment-1702363

      • danielhill2008

        I’m becoming increasingly of the opinion that a lot of “conservative” talk radio is really Republican establishment talk radio, particularly Hannity. I don’t even listen to him. I am a little mystified by some of the others, though. I don’t know for sure if Glenn Beck has actually endorsed Perry officially, but moving to Texas has to say something. Palin, meh, I used to really like her, but no more, and not just because of her lack of endorsing Perry. Haley, I don’t get that one at all.

        I don’t really follow polls much, they can pretty much be spun, in my opinion, to say what you want them to say.

        Not to get off track here, but I think the whole primary system needs to be overhauled, it places way too much emphasis on certain states. Maybe just have one day for all the primaries? I haven’t really thought it all through, but I get awfully tired of Iowa, Iowa, Iowa. No offense to the good people of Iowa, but is it really all that representative of the country as a whole anymore? LOL, I really wish it were, I’d rather that than California or New York.

        • rickperryreport

          Nothing else. Some of ‘em don’t believe a thing they say, except what brings in the money.

          And some of them haven’t been very savvy in working out this primary season. Coming out against a candidate, or being too favorable to a candidate can alienate the followers of that candidate, and lose audience.

          I think that’s what is keeping Erick Erickson from doing the right thing and endorsing Rick Perry!

          He’s waiting for Newt to be in single digits again maybe?

          HINT!

          Joe @ Rick Perry Report . com

        • racetraitor

          I get the impression that he doesn’t think that Perry is a true conservative. I’m not sure what’s up with that, but I’m “just saying.” :)

          • racetraitor

            No text.

          • JSobieski

            The only people who avoid mistakes in life are people who never actually accomplish anything. So if you choose a candidate on the basis of avoiding what you don’t like instead of seeking what you do like, you will end up voting for Bachmann.

            No plan to solve anything, but you know she won’t compromise.

            No accomplishments to speak of, but no sellouts either.

            Yes, Bachmann is the right wing version of Obama.

  • ThePoliticalHat

    …a resounding reelection.

    All my favorites in the race decided not to run. WFB supported voting for the most conservative candidate who could win — unfortunately we don’t seem to have any candidate who is both conservative and electable. The question becomes: who does the least damage?

    Perry has stumbled repeatedly, and when he hasn’t stumbled outright, he’s been struggling.

    His record as governor is great…but if he can’t reach out and bring in moderates, independents, and Republicans who were turned off by Bush. The last point is important, since Obama will paint Perry as just another swaggering Texas hick governor, and I can’t see Perry effectively combating that.

    If Perry gets the nod, I hope that I am wrong, but I’d rather not support a candidate based on “hope.”

    This will not end well…

    • jrfromdallas

      Don’t think Perry’s team wouldn’t bring up all of Obama’s gaffes or Biden’s gaffes to even the field because he would and should. Obama has made more gaffes than Perry has and I think once Perry reminded Obama of his gaffes he would stop it. Obama has to run on his terrible record and Perry would run on his great record. Take out the gaffes and let me ask you…who’s record would you vote for? That’s what I thought. Perry has improved greatly and I think those poor debate performances were due to the back surgery and not having his policies complete. If you’ve noticed since he got his policies put to paper he’s been able to articulate them in every debate and he’s been better. I think if he debated Obama he would just slam in back and forth on his weak leadership and wipe the floor with him.

      • Common_Cents

        This is the problem. Obama will get 10X free press coverage. And have 2 to 1 money advantage.

        This is why beating Obama to a pulp in debates is so very critical. Our candidate gets an unedited shot with millions of people.

        Obama and the multi billion dollar media machine will control much of the rest.

        You know the media will be out for Perry gaffe blood, playing gotcha at every corner making him look dumb.

        It’s preaching to the choir at RS that Perry is smart enough and has a good record, tell that to the rest of the country is the hard part. One gaffe by Perry in a debate and we are toast.

        In fact, Perry has to not only have an “oops” moment, he has to dominate Obama in every single debate just in an attempt to even out the rest of the media attacks.

        That is what scares me about Perry. If you look at the perso in the mirror, you can’t help but admit Perry is risky at this point and we’ll all have a white knuckle experience watching him debating Obama.

        Gingrich on the other hand, gives much more confidence to destroy Obama on stage in front of millions. yes the media will blast him on other fronts, as they will with any of our candidates.

        • Common_Cents

          correction

        • jrfromdallas

          and won I wouldn’t put it past this media to say that Newt was talking down to him because Obama is black and paint Newt a racists. If you don’t believe me just remember what Ezra Klein and his ilk were trying to do to protect Obama last election. I think if Perry beat Obama in the debate the media would try and spin it to make Obama look like he won anyway. The media will be against whoever our nominee is and if that is going to be the case then I want my guy because he has a better record and not as many skeletons as Newt.

          • texashistorian

            The national old line media will do that to whomever our nominee is. They did it to Reagan, Bush, in fact, they’ve done the same thing to every Republican s since the 1920s. We can go all the way back to “Silent Cal” who was anything but silent, and actually instituted the regular White House press briefing.

            Bottom line is we shouldn’t worry about the media; they are a foregone conclusion. We should worry about getting our best candidate in the general.

    • jrfromdallas

      Don’t think Perry’s team wouldn’t bring up all of Obama’s gaffes or Biden’s gaffes to even the field because he would and should. Obama has made more gaffes than Perry has and I think once Perry reminded Obama of his gaffes he would stop it. Obama has to run on his terrible record and Perry would run on his great record. Take out the gaffes and let me ask you…who’s record would you vote for? That’s what I thought. Perry has improved greatly and I think those poor debate performances were due to the back surgery and not having his policies complete. If you’ve noticed since he got his policies put to paper he’s been able to articulate them in every debate and he’s been better. I think if he debated Obama he would just slam in back and forth on his weak leadership and wipe the floor with him.

  • Knightbrigade

    primary vote all read to go…For starters I want a NON-Romney. The thought of Newt verbal slapping President Prissy Pants and liberal moderators like pinatas makes me giddy.
    Rick Perry was from day one my most conservative choice, but with the almost seizure like debate performances I cringed and looked elsewhere. Newt was the only other potential in my eyes. So if Newt drops back to the pack and it’s going to be the pack vs Romney, then I will go back to Rick Perry. I’ll watch Iowa to see the standings..
    Either way my vote is for Rick or Newt, NO other possible choice for me.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    This type of precise explication with clear and concise reasoning is long overdue. We have spent months if not weeks bomb throwing and pouring over the candidates faults, transgressions and mistakes- not their positive virtues. The latter is a much better measure of their presidential potential.

    I simply hope that Rick can make an impact. It is a pretty big hill to climb.

  • RealQuiet

    He’s creeping upward. Saw 16% in the Iowa poll only two points behind Romney and six behind Paul in that Inside Advantage poll. Tweets on this majority contributor endorsement are going fast and furious out there. Gingrich is falling like a rock and those Perry-Cain-Gingrich might be coming back home. Perry is doing everything he can to close out hard in Iowa. Here’s to hoping. Godspeed Governor Perry!

  • remnov

    Rick Perry was my 1st choice before he eve entered the race. I admit I wavered when he faltered out of the gate, but if I had to pull the lever today my vote would be for Rick Perry for all the reasons you stated above. Thank you for compiling all the points I need to make the case on his behalf.

    What’s more American that a good comeback story?

  • woggie

    coming into the stretch. Look out Washington, the wreaking ball is headed your way.

  • nancysabet

    I recommended and twitted too.

    GO PERRY 2012

  • bzip

    Thought some might like to see the video with Rick Perry on the road:

    On The Road
    http://youtu.be/EliVOBLn2pc

    • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

      n/t

  • runner12

    I chose to support Perry a couple of months ago because I feel that out of those running on the GOP ticket, he is the most conservative. What I mean by the “most conservative” is that I believe him to be the most committed to limited government and fiscal responsibility out of all of the candidates.

    I applaud the torte reform he enacted in Texas and would love to see something similar enacted nationally. His constant commitment to the 10th amendment principles convinces me that he is serious about reducing the size and scope of the federal government.

    Perry 2012

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    I did post this last night, and I did not get anybody to say anything. What I would like to know, does this bother anybosy else, that we may have either Romney or Newt. Below is a paragraph Stephen Slivinski, who is senior economist at the Goldwater Institute, and is the author of the book, Buck Wild: How Republicans Broke the Bank and Became the Party of Big Government, published in 2006.

    When discussing some of the battles Newt Gingrich had with conservative budget cutters in his own party over not passing a budget that Newt was trying to get passed, he was trying to reverse the hard won cuts of the previous year, these cuts were elements of the contract with America in 1995.

    ?It should have come as no surprise that some of us were going to say no when they want to hire more Washington bureaucrats,? said budget hawk Mark Neumann of Wisconsin when he declared he would vote against the bill. ?When we go out and tell our people we?re going to balance the budget, we can?t start with an increase in our own budget.? With all Democrats opposed to the bill, the swing votes came from eleven GOP budget hawks. It went down to defeat by a narrow margin of three votes.

    “Gingrich was furious. A few minutes after the vote, he announced an unusual mandatory meeting of all House Republicans in the caucus room right outside the House chamber. The session was going to begin with a roll-call and the Speaker threatened to send the sergeant-at-arms to round up any absent GOP congressman. Once the meeting started, Gingrich fumed. ?The eleven geniuses who thought they knew more than the rest of the Congress is going to come up and explain their votes,? he said. It was an unusual step and one that seemed to be motivated mostly by anger. It even surprised the more senior members of Congress, none of whom had ever heard of anyone being asked to explain their vote in this way to the entire caucus. Gingrich?s goal was to humiliate, and he derisively referring to the dissenting members as ?you conservatives,? as if they were a distinctly different and unacceptable breed of Republican. He derided them for not being team players and threatened to delay a two-week recess until each of those members explained himself and until the leadership had enough votes to pass the committee bill.”

  • http://conservativemountaineer.blogspot.com/ conservativemountaineer

    Just gave more $$, also. My regrets include not being able to go to Iowa to help, Pennsylvania is way down the road in the Primary season and I don’t have huge $$ to give (although I’m at $350 given so far).

  • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

    the most common is that he is not smart enough to be president, it is almost like the Romney campaign has sent a whole bunch of their supporters to red state to try and make Perry look dumb. Well Perry was smart enough to win 10 election while Romney got lucky to win one. Perry was smart enough to not tinker with the way Texas does things and now look at Texas. Perry was smart enough o be one of the first people to talk about the 10th amendment out of all the current candidates. Perry was smart enough to say things to Romney that got under his skin twice leading Romney to say something that made headlines for two days each. Hey Mr. Romney, I will bet you 10,000 that your 10,000 bet hurt you more than helped you. Perry was smart enough to push for tort reform, even knowing that the lawyers had a lot of power. Perry was smart enough to not sign a health care mandate into law, and the Gardasil mandate, well Perry was smart enough to let the legislature kill it and not fight back.

    If Romney had Perry?s record, and the support he has from the establishment then he would have already rapped this whole thing up, but he was not smart enough. While Romney was out telling pro-choice groups that he would serve as a sleeper agent that pulled the Republican Party to the left, Perry was fighting the lawyers in his state knowing that it would help create unmatched job creation climate.

    While Romney was telling reporters he was a progressive Republican, Perry was governing a state as a conservative, and not practicing on how to be a slick candidate.

    Romney has had to flip flop on just about every issue, while Perry has admitted to the mistake he has made and lived up to his billing as a straight talker. Romney had to spend the firs half of the campaign lying to old people about what Perry was going to do with their social security (does that sound familiar, that is what Obama was doing).

    So yes Romney may look smart, but I judge smart on the persons actions, not what they say they will do, but even in that Romney has been telling different people different things for years. Romney used to say he is not a Reagan/Bush supporter, now he wants us to believe he is a Reagan/Bush man.

    Perry is smart enough to know we have to bring real reform to Washington, while Romney in all his brilliance is not really saying he will do anything. Romney is scared of the left wing media, he wants to be liked. Perry understands that the best way to get somebody to like you is to get stuff done.

    So I do not care even if Romney wins, I will never say he is smarter because of it. I will always think Perry is the right choice to not only win, but to be the best president.

    • kegan05

      Great post!

      Perry is plenty smart enough to be president and has more common sense and experience than the nutball residing in the WH at this time.

      Perry’s best traits are his honesty and straight-forwardness. He is a solid Christian man who wants to reform Congress into a functional body of state representatives who will actually represent the people they were sent to Washington DC to serve. He is a true Reformer and I am praying he will be our 45th President! We need him and more like him,

  • bzip

    BTW, this diary has been referenced in the Team Perry daily news briefing :-)

    RedState ? ?Don?t Settle: Rick Perry for President?: Perry is the most reliable conservative in the race. He has made his share of missteps over 25 years in public life, as have all the candidates, but when you think seriously about which of the major candidates would govern in the most consistently conservative fashion, the answer is obvious. Perry hasn?t zigzagged or flip-flopped his way through his career, and he?s not overtaken by a new enthusiasm every week. (Full Article)

    Perry in Iowa: I will only appoint pro-gun justices to U.S. Supreme Court
    http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/19/perry-in-iowa-i-will-only-appoint-pro-gun-judges-to-u-s-supreme-court/

    Perry in Iowa: Make Congress part-time, pass laws, and send them home
    http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/19/perry-in-iowa-make-congress-part-time-pass-laws-and-send-them-home/

    Perry: ?The Obama experiment failed?
    http://globegazette.com/news/local/perry-the-obama-experiment-failed/article_ab430d50-2934-11e1-b726-0019bb2963f4.html?utm_source=RaconteurMail&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GovPerryintheNewsDecember19

    Rick Perry on Kim Jong II death
    http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/19/rick-perry-on-kim-jong-ii-death/

    • bzip

      A few more attacks from Perry to: Obama and to Newt-Romney

      Perry: Romney and Gingrich backed the ‘biggest act of theft in American history’
      http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/19/perry-romney-and-gingrich-backed-the-biggest-act-of-theft-in-american-history/

      Rick Perry Calls Obama?s Presidency ?Destructive?
      http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/rick-perry-calls-obamas-presidency-destructive/

  • notpropagandized

    Was hoping something like this would come out. Decided this weekend to flush all this Romney alternative hop-scotch and just go the the best solution for government gone wild… Rick Perry. I’ll endure 4 years of his verbal challenges and and Texas accent to clean up this pile of dog- that is WashingtonDC.

    The reality is that Perry is probably way too nice of a person to do this. But we DEFINITELY need a real outsider who believes in outsider concerns.

    I’m voting for Rick Perry. I’ve decided. No hopey changey needed.

  • David123

    Given the economy, Fast&Furious, Solyndra, etc. any of the six Republicans who are strong on Defense should be able to win.

    However, Perry has an extra advantage – he was Al Gore’s campaign manager. He can say “I started out Democrat, but the Democratic Party left me by turning left. And under you, Barrack Obama, it’s veered even more sharply left, over the left cliff. When I was in the Democratic Party it was the party for regular, patriotic working Americans. It was a party where people were proud to be Americans and say and sing “God Bless America”. It wasn’t a party for terrorists and people who hate America. Mr. Obama, you’ve changed America, and you’ve changed the Democratic Party – and you’ve changed both for the worst.”

    Democrats and Independents who believe in “God Bless America” should vote for Rick Perry. They should realize that Barrack Obama’s Democratic Party has left them.

    • woggie

      amongst other things, like RP being thee conservative in the race, honest, served his counrty, experienced govenor, never lost an election,etc

      EER and TP’ers should re-focus and realize they have their guy in their midst!

      • rickperryreport

        Perry has the executive leadership experience and proven track record of getting things accomplished. His first Texas Legislative session, he vetoed 82 bills because the Tx Leg wasn’t listening to him. After that, Perry had the respect to get his agenda through.

        How glorious it will be to have a president veto all of this crazy spending going on!

  • windwaker24

    This post sums up my feeling about Perry, and I hope I get a chance to vote for him. I don’t know when Illinois has its primary but I hope Perry is on the ballot!

    BTW: That is a very handsome photo of Perry at the top. One thing though, he needs to lose that tie. No man should have a tie with little dogs on it… :)

  • icesweeper

    Now let’s get to work and get him elected…….

  • draggingtree

    I am so pleased to read this article, guess by my statement you know I am for the best conservative who I think is Rick Perry

  • nativetexan41

    There are five in my house that are voting for Perry. We have supported him since he got in the race. He is the true conservative. We need his experience and leadership in the White House.
    Iowans go out on January 3rd. and support.
    Go Perry!!

  • 1bunny

    I supported Perry before he was a declared candidate. He was my governor for 6 years and I do miss TX and all he has done. I want him for my president. I don’t care about debates, I made my decision that if he got in the race then he was MY candidate come hell or high water :) I have never been this involved in promoting a candidate. Perry is what this country needs and I thank all the RS’ers who endorsed him today and all the posters on RS who support him too. I see some of you on twitter and other sites so I know we are doing our part to help promote Perry. Wish I could go to Iowa but money and online support and personally promoting him to everyone I can will have to do it for now. Also heard on the radio today here in OK that Perry has raised the most money in our state even more than Romney. Go Perry!!!!

    • kegan05

      I agree with your assessment of Governor Rick Perry. I want a LEADER, and a “doer,” not a professorial Debater who has never run anything but his mouth. Perry is the polar opposite of Comrade Obama and will do what he says he will do. This country needs a man of honor like Governor Perry. He is the first politician I have believed in for a long time. America needs him at the helm.

      Perry – 2012!

  • californiagold

    It’s obvious that Romney, Rove, and the Bush family were all concerned about a potential Rick Perry candidacy for the past few years. This might sound like a conspiracy to some of you, but who cares…How else can one explain Bush/Rove coming out in support of a primary challenge to a successful incumbent governor ? At the time, Texas was one of the only states in the country that wasn’t in an economic near depression. Yet, Bush/Rove/Hutchinson schemed to get Rick Perry booted out of office. Why ? Could it have been that Bush/Rove and the establishment wanted Romney to be the nominee and not Perry ?

    And let’s not even waste time discussing the negative coverage coming from Fox news and their “unbiased” reports from Karl Rove. LOL

    And as others have suggested, for Romney to win, he needs the conservative vote divided among numerous candidates. So far that plan is working perfectly. Nor does it hurt to have surrogates like Santorum and Bachmann doing Mitt’s dirty work.

    But look on the bright side, Sarah Palin is once again discussing the possibility of running….

    • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

      …Fred Thompson hosted a discussion of potential-Veeps.

      A consensus supported Condi and, specifically, Perry was discussed as a good match with her.

      [Beckel noted Rubio, again, despite his repeated-denials.]

      • JSobieski

        Condi is way overrated.

        • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

          …at least as good, if not better, than Newt. I’m familiar with her work.

          • JSobieski

            and potential leader.

            Condi is the worst aspects of W without the positives.

          • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

            …her strengths/weaknesses are fairly close to Newt, as an academic with certain statist weaknesses. I’d rate her intellectual prowess as higher than Newt’s and she comes with less personal baggage, but she has plenty of weaknesses on her record as well. In short, if you’re okay with Newt, I don’t know why one would be hostile to Condi. Not that I’m endorsing her or anything, just seeking a balanced perspective.

        • http://www.doctor-bob.biz rsklaroff

          …and Perry can do better [e.g., Toomey].

          • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

            …but at the same time those who are Newtrons making fun of Condi don’t really have a leg to stand on. After all, Condi is in the same general vicinity of politics as Newt himself.

  • californiagold

    I’m getting bored listening to politicians like Romney talk about how they worked in the private sector, and as a result, know how to “create” jobs.

    Didn’t GW Bush also claim to have extensive experience in the private sector before he became president ? And how did that go ? Oh, that’s right, the country nearly went into a depression during Bush’s watch.

    The reality is, whether Romney was a success in the private sector means nothing. What matters are his economic policies once he takes office. And the economic plan he has presented isn’t very compelling. In fact, it’s a timid plan that looks as if it was written by a bunch of campaign staffers with nothing better to do on a Saturday night.

    There are numerous candidates that have detailed plans for the economy that will cause significant economic growth. Unfortunately, Mitt Romney’s plan isn’t one of them.

    • notpropagandized

      We now know Bush’s failing was NOT sensing the gargantuan scale of the subprime meltdown and NOT being more aggressive in fighting Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the host of Democrats who were sucking lifeblood out of Fannie and Freddie (along with a few crony Republicans!). As more and more evidence emanates from the corpse of US economy, it known that it was government mal-regulation that was the cause and mostly Dem greed as the protagonist with grudging Republican toleration.

      We also know that Bush’s private sector approach worked beautifully to hugely increase Fed govt revenues. The overshadowing problem was profligate spending that trumped his tax policy / govt revenue success. So, it was Bush’s lack of public sector / govt experience that hurt him badly and cast an undeserved negative on his private sector success.

      In Rick Perry’s case, he has manifold experience in using the public sector to aid and abet private sector success on behalf of both sectors. We know he’s not perfect, but clearly has a huge advantage over the alternatives.

      And we know the Dems are destroying the world as we know it…

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    And all the good stuff happens…

    At least you all came around before Iowa caucus … just kiddin’

  • kegan05

    Thank you for this great article on Rick Perry. He has been my candidate from the start and will remain my candidate all the way through the Primary Election. He can beat Comrade Obozo just by comparing their two records of accomplishment. Rick Perry has already balanced budgets, signed Tort Reform into law, help create over a Million new jobs for Texas, worked relentlessly at securing his 1200 mile border with Mexico, in spite of the roadblocks provided by the Incompetents in the WH. He is a REAL conservative who will be a REAL Commander in Chief for our country. I am praying he will do well in Iowa and get the momentum to leap ahead and eventually secure the Republican nomination! Rick Perry is a WINNER.

    Perry for President – 2012!

  • 1bunny

    and why over 2000 people are going to Iowa to campaign for him.

    http://patriot1949.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/why-rick-perry-by-victoria_29/

  • tomatin

    The good folks at RS have Perry colored glasses. I don’t know how many time’s I’ve heard Perry is on the rise here but when I go back to the real world and read RCP polls all I see is Perry is an also ran.

    Poll Gingrich Romney Paul Bachmann Perry
    RCP Avg 28.8 24.3 11.5 8.5 8.0

    Maybe in 2016 because I do think Romney will lose in 2012.

    • http://www.timothy-bladel.com/ center77

      real clear average cannot tell the whole story, right now in two out of 3 of the early states Perry is on the rise, and he has got the money to go for longer. Hillary almost pulled it off after all the states. Perry can go for as long as money allows him, and Iowa will launch him. Newt and Romney do not meet the real requirements for small government conservatives, don’t count Perry out. Right now he and Paul have the momentum.

      • tomatin

        Do you really think Perry is going to win there?

        Set yourself up for the ultimate disappointment. But don’t cry when Romney is the nominee. Because the fix is in for him all along.

    • notpropagandized

      This primary is so fast paced and dynamic that watching RCP is misleading since it does not show the trends and changey stuff. It’s not like spikes or dips happen here or there that return to a normalcy of some kind. There is no normalcy. And using RCP as a metric knowing that it’s behind the curve is propaganda. This is all highly emotion-charged.

      • tomatin

        Then people wonder why I call Perry supporters delusional.

        • californiagold

          I understand your point about Romney and the “fix”. But at this point the national polls are meaningless. All that matters are Iowa and then New Hampshire. And in the latest Iowa polling, Rick Perry has moved up to a close third place, only 2% points behind Romney. Perry’s problem in Iowa isn’t Romney or Ron Paul, it’s Bachmann and Santorum.

          Why anyone would want to waste their vote on Santorum is beyond me….

  • bobguzzardi

    First rate and like Rick Perry, an authenticity and focus on the issuance of conservative governance. Like the Titanic, the USA is headed into the nightmare of Obamacare and European Welfare Socialist Statism and we need a President who can govern and steer the USA toward a future with productive jobs and a higher standard of living.

    The comments to this post were exceptionally thoughtful.

    FYI It’s not over until it’s over. The pundits pundit and then the voters vote.

  • http://www.RightFace.us dkolonia

    Perry is our best shot at electing a conservative. He is by no means perfect but as good as we have at the moment that could beat Obama.

  • jakeofalltrades

    I’ll be donating each month for Perry until I max out my statutory limit or he drops out of the race.

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    …and congrats on everyone else doing their part to help out.

  • lastgopinillinois

    who would serve best to get us back to conservative principles and crush the size of the federal govt IMO, over the other candidates.

    BUT, aside from poor debate performances earlier, which began to dash my hopes for Perry, along with dismal placement in the polls, I stumbled upon a Iowa speech televised on C-Span during the weekend.

    He repeatedly could not finish his sentences and would continue on with a completely different subject and there were a lot of hesitations.

    I am beginning to wonder if he is coming down with early onset alzheimers disease or some other type of debilitating brain malady.

    The difficulty he has in delivering his message would worry me if he could somehow pull of the nomination, then get pummelled in a debate against 0-bama.

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