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Meanwhile, Bobby Jindal Wins Again

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The GOP’s national leadership – including the presidential candidates stumping today in Louisiana – may be uninspiring, but the GOP governors continue to roll. Bobby Jindal last night just scored another victory with the passage through the Louisiana House of a landmark school choice bill (the bill still awaits action from the LA Senate), before proceeding to debate a second bill that tightens teacher tenure standards:

In a victory for Gov. Bobby Jindal, the Louisiana House of Representatives approved a bill Thursday night that would expand state aid for some students to switch from struggling public schools to private and parochial classrooms.

The vote was 61-42 after nearly 12 hours of debate.

Jindal still faces a tough fight – some of the legislators who voted for the bill also voted for an amendment limiting the use of local (as opposed to state) tax dollars for vouchers that could cross local district lines, and opponents are vowing a constitutional challenge. But then, reform is never easy.

For more on why Jindal is one of the nation’s very best governors, this long wide-ranging interview discusses not just his education reform proposals but also his pension reform fight. Excerpt:

[B]efore we discuss any change, we have to understand that the status quo is not sustainable: $18.5 billion [Unfunded Accrued Liability]. We’re spending already over $2 billion dollars a year [for retirement programs]. If we do nothing, the UAL will go up by $3 billion.

Let’s look at the alternative. If we do nothing, there really are just three alternatives. One is that we break our promise to employees, which we’re not willing to do. Second is that we devastate critical services like education and health care. We’re not willing to do that. Third is that we simply raise taxes on our people. We’re not willing to do that as well. Some would say, “Well, why tackle these hard reforms? Constitutionally, you don’t have to pay off the UAL until 2029.” I think that’s irresponsible.

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When you look historically at the 1980s, taxpayers were paying for 60% of the retirement program’s cost. Workers were paying 40%. That was considered a fair balance. Today taxpayers are paying 75% and the employees are only paying 25% of the retirement costs. Even with all the reforms that we’ve proposed, we’re not going back to 60/40, even with the savings for taxpayers. You’re still looking at a … two-thirds, one-third split. So taxpayers are still paying for two-thirds of the retirement program. I think a better question, another way to ask that question, would be, “Why didn’t you go back to 60/40, why not cut the taxpayers contributions to 60%?” …

I think that if you go and ask the average taxpayer, “Hey, look, you guys used to pay 60% of the retirement cost; today you’re paying 75%. Don’t you think you should get a little bit more of your money back?” I think, absolutely. I think their money should go back to them. Whether it’s in tax cuts, whether it’s investments in education, whether it’s investments in health care. Because what has happened over the last several years is, those investments have been crowded out as the [state retirement contribution] share has gone up. What has happened is, instead of being able to pay for classrooms and instead of being able to pay for health care, instead of being able to pay for tax cuts, taxpayers have been forced to pay for retirement costs.

Finally, in case you missed it, a Jindal tour de force on energy:

Gov. Bobby Jindal on Energy from Republican Governors Association on Vimeo.

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COMMENTS

  • Bob_Frazier

    I know you are only inferring this, However, many dream, but few look at the reality of it. These same rockefeller blue blood liberals who run this party. That made sure Rick and Newt and Michelle and Herman and the other Rick would not win. These same people are going to support Bobby Jindal some day for President?

    Don’t kid yourself.

    No matter how good a job he does.

    Not a chance. Not as the power structure is today

    • http://www.baseballcrank.com Dan McLaughlin

      The party can be united behind a conservative, if that conservative is strong enough to clear the right side of the field in a hurry. Besides, Jindal’s a hard guy for blue state Republicans to look down on – Rhodes Scholar, Ivy League degree, policy whiz, etc.

      • lineholder

        He may not be well known as of yet, but given the issues he’s been confronting head on and how he has been addressing those issues…he will be.

      • uh1pilot86

        Dan what do uou mean by the right side of the field?

        • http://www.baseballcrank.com Dan McLaughlin

          avoiding having the conservative vote splintered in the primary while the moderate wing of the party is united.

      • ffc99

        And it’s worth pointing out that a year or so ago the “establishment” and blue state Republicans (I realize some might think these two groups are one in the same) were practically begging a certain midwestern governor with a record strikingly similar to Gov. Jindal to enter the Presidential race.

        • http://www.baseballcrank.com Dan McLaughlin

          Yeah, Daniels has a solid record, and showed real skill in coming back in 2008 from the political grave he’d been in two years earlier. But I think Jindal would actually want it if he ran, and unlike Daniels he would avoid gratuitously alienating social conservatives.

          • aesthete

            is that many (though not all) in the establishment would have welcomed a governor with actual fiscal accomplishments as our nominee: I remember some in the establishment saying good things about Gov Sanford before the implosion, as well.

            I think Jindal could be very competitive as a challenger for the Republican nomination in either 2016 or 2020 — he’s not someone who makes a habit of stepping in it as Newt and Santorum do, and is much more conservative than either, in terms of public record.

          • lineholder

            the one issue of school choice, this is a rising issue for many people across the political spectrum, not just the Conservative side. I suppose there are people who could see it as being entirely a “social” or “societal” issue, although I think with the condition that many states are finding themselves in economically, that isn’t quite a true as it might seem to be.

            But having someone as a challenger who could span beyond what would be considered typically “Conservative” territory could be very advantageous.

            He’s very strong in the context of Constitutional law. It’s one of the things I like the best about Jindal.

          • http://www.baseballcrank.com Dan McLaughlin

            before he, you know, took a hike.

          • aesthete

            Heck, I’d still rather him than anyone in the running.

      • citizenkh

        he has learned some great backroom arm twisting deal making tactics which pissed of conservatives here. After these results they will stop sniping, except the “Agenda 21 hiding everywhere” crowd.

    • littlehouse18

      So maybe they would give him a chance.

      Unfortunately it was not a good moment for him, but considering our options, I could overlook it. He is a great guy who stood up to Obama during the oil spill.

      • citizenkh

        to speak more slowly and also for the first time in his life someone else had partially written his speech.

        The result was not good.

        Bobby did not blame anyone else for his speech, which speaks to his integrity.

        He is at his best when excited and speaking extemporaneously. Don’t ever get him excited enough to get him to stutter, that means a ton of facts are going to wash over you and the door will hit you in the behind as you exit the stage for good.

    • uh1pilot86

      Not how it is today, the party needs to morph back to it’s humble beginnings

  • rogershru2

    Good for him.

  • Ann_W

    School reform is the true social justice cause. I’m so glad to hear this!!

    • lineholder

      Education reform is one of the up-and-coming hot button issues. Jindal’s ahead of the curve on this one (so far) with a lot of people watching to see to what extent his program succeeds or fails.

      • aesthete

        successfully passing school choice bills in states that aren’t always amenable to the effort.

        Here’s a question: why don’t we have better school choice laws in red states? I’m thinking of the Southern and some of the Mountain West states: why is it that purple states like Florida and Indiana have some of the better school choice laws on the books?

        • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

          There’s a big push for charter schools. I’m hearing a lot of ads on local talk radio, and our R governor supports them.

          In the meantime, a fellow tea partier sent me this article
          here. I haven’t had time to source it anywhere else.

        • Ann_W

          IDK, but I never thought of Indiana as a purple state. I thought it was red.

          I wonder if it’s because in trying to appeal to right and left constituencies this is an issue that crosses lines. The urban (D) voter would probably support this and it would make the (D) establishment look bad. Sounds like a winning formulation to me!

          This is such an easy argument to make, I hope we hear lots of loud voices on this soon.

          • acat

            There’s the overall pro-union or at least neutral-on-union mindset that infects most rust belt states, there’s Gary and Indianapolis, both quite urban and the former very influenced by Chicago, and there’s the rest of the state, which trends pretty red.

            Purple is the right description, although because Indianapolis is a smaller and better run city, and because Gary has been shrinking while refugees from Illinois’ suburbs have been moving to Porter County and other “just over the line” areas, it’s been improving (erm, been getting redder) a bit…

            Mew

        • lineholder

          I know that NC has a school choice program. So does SC. As a matter of fact, the legislation for school choice in SC is moving through the state House this week. (H4894 for those who are interested. See the link below from Freedom Works)

          http://www.fitsnews.com/2012/03/19/freedomworks-action-alert-on-school-choice-in-sc/

          I think they do exist, but they don’t get as much publicity as what the school choice programs in other blue states get…maybe because of lower Teacher Union activity????

          • aesthete

            When I last checked, most of the red states have some very moderate school choice policies (meager subsidy for private schools and such), but nothing like the “money follows the child” model that Milt Friedman (the godfather of the choice movement) advocated for. The states closest to that model right now are Utah, Indiana, and Florida.

            @ Ann W: that’s an interesting hypothesis (and probably works in explaining Florida), but IN doesn’t have particularly large urban areas. IIRC, Atlanta is larger than any of IN’s urban areas, and has more of the demographics that school choice targets (inner-city blacks and Hispanics).

            @ Lineholder: You’re right, they don’t get much publicity — but they’re also somewhat meager.

            @ Melody: Do you know what kind of school choice bill is being floated (private school subsidy matching $/student in public schools, charter school expansion, limited subsidy for private schools)? I’d be interested in seeing it.

          • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

            I get periodic emails from API. The one they sent re charter schools is
            here.

            A recent article on a local news site that gives a pretty good summary is here.

            And if you go here and search HB541 under the Bills heading, it will bring up the entire bill or you can read condensed or full highlights of it. I think I have an article somewhere that analyzes the bill but can’t find it at the moment.

  • citizenkh

    which does away with tenure and pays extra for performance.

    If you look at the delegation from New Orleans itself (all Dem) you will find that they voted en masse for these reforms. New Orleans has had vouchers, and a plethora of charter schools post Katrina. The results prove that this works exceptionally better than the state system as it is today.

    www.thehayride.com has some very good articles about the process thus far.

    It gets even better, if you followed the live streaming on the state legislature’s website you will find that the Dem bench is not only thin but non-existent. If this is the best that they can do to argue, then they are vanquished (outside of a few pockets) from state politics for at least a decade.

    BTW, Jindal has learned backroom strong arm politics quite well. His picks for leadership of the legislature (governor has traditionally had his/her say) were sniped at by many conservatives but the arm twisting provided results.

  • citizenkh

    It seems that the areas of the state with conservative GOP representation and also where there is a VERY strong following of Glenn Beck and where “Agenda 21″ seminars have been put on by moonbats, all voted against school reform.

  • surlycurmudgen

    Jindal would be an outstanding Vice President or President. Now if he would show his parents naturalization papers and his birth certificate proving his NBC status nearly everyone would be on board.

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