From the diaries by Erick. To quote my friend ‘Ironman’, “If an uncontested re-election doesn’t give John Thune the political courage to say no to BP and the ethanol robber barons, then he has no business getting near the White House when the successor to Obama needs to stop trillions in red ink.”
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The ethanol mandates are one of the most regressive socialist interventions into the free market that have been peddled by the progressives. Unfortunately, many Republicans, red state ones at that, are signing onto the extension of these backdoor taxes on food and fuel.
It is an unconstitutional regulation that has enriched a few special interests with $7.7 billion taxpayer dollars, regressively drove up the cost of food and fuel; and by extension all products and services that rely on fuel based delivery. The tax credits for energy producers who blend fuel with ethanol have created so many unintended (or intended by some) negative consequences that even Al Gore is calling for its repeal. The tax credits are slated to expire in one month and yet, we have not heard much from the newly elected Republican majority in the House. Is your Republican Congressman more conservative than Al Gore?
According to analysts at Goldman Sachs, the ethanol industry consumes 41% of the domestic corn crop. Corn is at the top of the food chain, so by creating an artificial shortage in supply of corn, the feds have caused a spike in the cost of meat and chicken as well. In addition, it costs much more to produce a barrel of ethanol than it does a barrel of oil.
Yet, 6 Republicans joined seven Democrats in penning a letter to Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell demanding that the subsidies be renewed before the end of this congress.
Here is a list of the Republicans who signed the letter together with their socialist compatriots.
Chuck Grassley
Kit Bond
Sam Brownback
John Thune
Mike Johanns
Mark Kirk
Mark Kirk is no surprise. He has wasted no time in voting with the democrats on virtually every issue since the minute he took office. The rest of these guys are from red states. Did we gain anything from the midterm elections, or did it never take place? Kit Bond and Sam Brownback are retiring and it remains to be seen if Moran and Blunt will be any better on this issue. Chuck Grassley? Well, he is …. Chuck Grassley after all. Johanns and Thune are really upsetting. Is this the best we can do from ruby red states? John Thune should kiss his bid for the presidency goodbye.
Cross-posted to Red Meat Conservative
Jeff Emanuel
Neil Stevens
Caleb Howe
Daniel Horowitz
Lori Ziganto
Kirk, ethanol, and Illinois ...
acat (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 10:25AM EDT (link)Just want to point out that corn is big business in Illinois. We grow quite a lot of it….
Kirk’s support was mostly from suburbia – he needs to firm up downstate support for his re-election, and – being a RINO – he thinks the best way to do this is to give the corn farmers a subsidy.
While I’m happy to see Obama’s seat in the hands of a Republican, I’d really rather find a better Republican if we can…
Mew
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ethanol - worst idea ever
Death_of_the_Donkey (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 10:32AM EDT (link)and yet the government decided to subsidize the heck out of it. It reminds us once again of why government should not try to pick winners and losers (here the winners are farmers and the ethanol producers and the losers are every other American).
Cellulose-based ethanol is a Good Idea.
acat (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 10:59AM EDT (link)Ethanol from the parts of the corn (and other) plants that we don’t eat.
What we’ve got now is nothing more complex than moonshine… and you’re exactly right – it’s a Bad Idea.
Mew
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Ethanol - Good; Subsides - Bad
nateiniowa Thursday, December 2nd at 1:45PM EDT (link)As in any industry, subsides are bad for business. It props up the inefficient and punishes innovation.
I burn E-85 daily and even with the reduced MPG of fuel, my MPG of petro is incredible.
The “using food” argument is getting old since we waste more food per year in this country than ethanol can ever use.
Every time food prices go up, the media blames the Ethanol. In most cases it is the oil industry, since most food is moved by diesel (trucks, trains, barge). A penny increase in oil gets applied three times between elevator and store.
Ethanol is not the end-all but it a good step to energy independence.
Sorry you on the coasts cannot enjoy the benefits. Speak to your local distributers and let them know you’re a re interested. Price goes down when scale goes up.
Ethanol
erp617 Thursday, December 2nd at 10:37AM EDT (link)What will it take to get through to these people. Alternate fuels is pork for lefty environmentalists.
The recent election was clearly about UNDOING what the left has done, not prolonging it.
In A World without the Over-Hyper Iowa Caucus
Repair_Man_Jack (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 10:42AM EDT (link)there would only be one or two signatures on that letter…We need a better system to nominate our Presidential candidates.
Mr. Obama is pretending that an economic “recovery” is underway when he knows damn well that the banking system is just blowing smoke up the shredded *** of what’s left of that economy – James Howard Kunstler
5x5, Jack. Can we move Super Tuesday up? [nt]
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I hate to bring up McCain
rdelbov Thursday, December 2nd at 10:53AM EDT (link)but yup the Maverick has been for years the #1 foe of Ethanol.
I might add that conservatives have given him zero credit for this oppisition.
McCain is also a prime example of the cost of not being pro “Corn” as he has always got skunked in Corn rich Iowa. I might add that McCain did poorly in the corn & farm belt in 2008 as he ran far behind GOP numbers in Corn & Wheat country. McCain -on principal-has been the most anti farm subsidy senator for years.
Someone once said “Paris was worth a Mass” perhaps Corn is a similar issue. We will a lot of democrat help to kill this turkey.
Yep
zornorph Thursday, December 2nd at 11:02AM EDT (link)But people will still salivate over RINO Brownback despite the fact that he’s got a lousy record on FisCon issues. I feel sorry for the people of Kansas, but I’m just glad he’s out of the Senate.
Couldn't help but notice that they are all from major corn states.
KevinM Thursday, December 2nd at 10:54AM EDT (link)So much for banning earmarks. My own opinion is that all agricultural subsidies should be ended.
Grassley, Johanns and Kirk
Scope (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 11:19AM EDT (link)all got recent campaign contributions from Archer Daniels Midland, the second largest ethanol producer. Paybacks are a beeitch for all of us, and those donations help to keep some of the worst RINOS in DC. I believe Grassley also voted for the food bill, and pushed hard and heavy for the payout authorization for Pigford II. He was just re-elected.
ps- Fred Upton
Scope (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 11:22AM EDT (link)also got campaign contributions from Archer Daniels Midland, and, he wants to chair the energy and commerce committee. God save us.
Isn't it past time to break up a few monopolies?
mediaman034 Thursday, December 2nd at 12:59PM EDT (link)Such as Monsanto and Archer Daniels Midland…?!?
G'bye
Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 1:07PM EDT (link)You seem to be confused as to what site you’re at.
RS contributing editor and “a hardy variety of crabgrass.”
Read the RedState Posting Rules
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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder
"The rest of these guys are from red states"
Goldwater_Conservative (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 10:59AM EDT (link)I think its a little more simple than that:
Brownback-Kansas (corn growing state)
Grassley-Iowa (corn growing state)
Thune-SD (corn growing state, not a good move for his presidential aspirattions)
Johanns-cornhusker state
Bond-missouri thats kinda confusing
Kirk-Ill (large corn producing state plus Kirk doesnt care)
I think that is your mystery there.
I'll solve your mystery on the Bond problem.
itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 3:07PM EDT (link)He’s a Democrat hiding behind an R label.
Since he announced his resignation from the Senate, I’ve seen his name over and over and over on something with a bucketload of Democrats and a handful of Republicans. All these years, he’s been lying and covering his actions trying to convince us how conservative he is so he could keep the R nomination, but now that he’s not running again, the mask came off.
I have a feeling this is the reason we couldn’t get anything done even when we controlled the House, the Senate and the Presidency; our elected Rs join the ruling aristocracy, get behind closed doors and kill the stuff that would diminish their power and control while robbing us of our freedom and our wages.
I’m sure Bond will stay in DC where he feels at home, but if he comes to MO, I hope he doesn’t come anywhere around me. If I ever see him, I’ll tell him just what I think of deceptive [redacteds] like him.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
You Betcha..
smitch61 Thursday, December 2nd at 11:18AM EDT (link)Sarah Palin would not have done that…… haha.. that is my husband’s stock answer for everything these days. He has turned into quite a supporter that guy.
I'm taking notes...
mediaman034 Thursday, December 2nd at 12:56PM EDT (link)Thank you for taking the time to point these facts out. I hope others will stop by and take a few notes as I have.
End all of the corn subsidies
JoeG Thursday, December 2nd at 1:00PM EDT (link)Not only should corn ethanol be unsubsidized, so should HFCS.
Bye Thune
momac Thursday, December 2nd at 2:34PM EDT (link)He was my first campaign contribution ever. Never again. Whether it’s happened in the past or not, it’s so far past time to draw some lines in the sand it’s ridiculous. We don’t have the money, and they don’t have the right. Period.
I love that sentence.
itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 3:27PM EDT (link)We don’t have the money, and they don’t have the right.
That sums it up very nicely. I’ll be stealing that baby.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
Drink up for Corn!
GreyCloak (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 8:05PM EDT (link)It should come as no surprise that even Republican Senators vote for their constituents:
Chuck Grassley 1. Iowa …………….. 1, 769,000,000 bushels
Mark Kirk 2. Illinois ……………. 1,473,450,000 bushels
Mike Johanns 3. Nebraska ……….. 1,239,750,000 bushels
John Thune 7. South Dakota ……. 429,550,000 bushels
Sam Brownback 8. Kansas …………….. 418,950,000 bushels
Kit Bond 10. Missouri ……………. 285,000,000 bushels
In ten years, the price of corn has gone from ~2.35/bu to $5.84/bu, making their farmer voters happy.
Excepting Illinois, the Senators/voter are significantly greater in corn-growing states, hence farm subsidies. Sen McCain can afford to be against them: Arizona is not known for its farms, and is #37 in corn production.
But there are penalties: feed prices are higher and even Coca-Cola and Dr. Pepper have recently re-discovered the benefits of sugar, as corn-syrup costs more.
Nonetheless, ethanol really IS a waste of corn (except, perhaps, in Bourbon). Until cellulose-based technology catches up with fermentation, corn will remain the primary source for ethanol.
Heck, even Al Gore's against it
Jack_Savage (Diary) Thursday, December 2nd at 10:13PM EDT (link)” Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore reportedly has had a change of heart on ethanol, telling a conference on green energy in Europe that he only supported tax breaks for the alternative fuel to pander to farmers in his home state of Tennessee and the first-in-the-nation caucuses state of Iowa.
Speaking at a green energy business conference in Athens sponsored by Marfin Popular Bank, Gore said the lobbyists have wrongly kept alive the program he once touted.
“It is not a good policy to have these massive subsidies for first-generation ethanol,” Reuters quoted Gore saying of the U.S. policy that is about to come up for congressional review. “First-generation ethanol I think was a mistake. The energy conversion ratios are at best very small.” ‘
I wonder if Al’s reason for supporting it is the same as Thune’s…
NO MORE SUBSIDIES
beanerecmo Thursday, December 2nd at 10:40PM EDT (link)Cut all subsidies; products should stand on their merits alone!!
I was a liberal until I learned to read, got a job and was mugged by willful tax and spend regressives (aka progressives) and naive acolytes.
General
howardkiernan Friday, December 10th at 7:08AM EDT (link)The subject of ethanol is interesting precisely because there can be arguments for subsidy notwithstanding support for the free market in general. Some have argued that the practice of blending a proportion of ethanol in petrol perhaps helps to reduce the price to the motorist in the station forecourt filling their car. Some, of course, like myself until fairly recently, had not discovered that a kindly forewardthinking government and oil industry had taken this step on our behalf already. Nobody really knows what caused 55.000 motorists who bought from a particular batch of this fuel from a supermarket chain in England to suffer engine damage (compensated for by the company), but the ethanol mixture could have had something to do with it – or maybe not. This was about two years ago, and since then the subject has become interesting to me. Reading some of the archive material on RedState turned up a quote supplied by a contributor called kyle8, who said, “America – crucified on a cross of corn”!!