Late this afternoon, the CBO reaffirmed all of our concerns with Speaker Boehner’s Budget Control Act of 2011 – plus interest (pun intended).
We have asserted ad nauseam that any proposed budget plan that fails to countermand the current prodigal spending levels, including the modestly reduced spending levels of 2011, is not worth the paper it is printed on. The CBO estimates that Boehner’s $1.2 trillion in discretionary spending cuts will only save us $850 billion over ten years. This means that Obama’s credit card increase will be higher than the concurrent spending cuts, thus voiding the promise of the dollar-for-dollar agreement. Moreover, the CBO estimates that all the cuts will be backloaded, as the estimated savings for next year – the only enforceable year – will be a negligible $1 billion! It turns out that an extra $4 billion in mandatory spending for Pell Grants will ostensibly wipe out any savings from the paltry discretionary cuts.
This plan is worse than a strikeout; it’s a ground ball into a double play.
A mere lousy plan would have destroyed our leverage over the debt ceiling fight; Boehner’s plan obviates our future leverage over the FY 2012 budget fight in late September as well. The House-passed budget resolution, known as the Paul Ryan budget, authorized $1.019 trillion in non-emergency discretionary spending for FY 2012. Boehner’s bill authorizes $1.043 trillion.
Additionally, all the reforms in entitlement and welfare spending that were adopted in the Ryan budget (including reforms of Pell Grants) will be jettisoned and exchanged for a grand bargain formulated by the Super Commission. Yes, I know, it’s a committee; not a commission.
Consequently, when the 2012 budget fight boils over after the summer recess, we will lose our leverage to fight for the Ryan budget. So, all the hard work that has gone into passing the appropriations bills and fulfilling the mandate from the budget resolution would have been a waste. The Boehner plan has already overshot the spending levels of those bills. Democrats will laugh at them during those pretentious days at the end of the fiscal year.
Concurrently, there is another unforeseen vice to this plan. The two largest non-defense appropriations bills; the Labor/HHS/Education and Transportation/HUD bills, are being saved until after August. The Ryan budget blueprint achieved the most savings from these bills; $26 billion of the estimated $47 trillion in discretionary savings for 2012. Boehner’s plan, or any 2.0 version of it, would allow liberal Republican appropriators to reinstate some of the spending to the most pernicious activities of some of the worst government agencies. Congressman Steve LaTourette, a shill for Big Labor, is already agog over the opportunity to spend more on Labor.
John Boehner, to his credit, is planning to rewrite his bill. He needs to go for a home run and stick with Cut, Cap, and Balance. At the very least, we don’t need another double play.
If GOP leaders are serious, they will fight for a deal that upholds the integrity of the Ryan budget, both on the discretionary and mandatory sides of the ledger.

Jeff Emanuel
Neil Stevens
Caleb Howe
Daniel Horowitz
Lori Ziganto
I would be happy to exchange the debt ceiling
carolina Tuesday, July 26th at 8:49PM EDT (link)for the Ryan budget for FY2011 and FY2012. All of the out-year ‘cuts’ are a waste of paper anyway.
Some REAL cuts NOW is what people want.
- sigh -
Well, guess Erick
z06gal Tuesday, July 26th at 8:56PM EDT (link)was right about it being a bad bargain after all. Boehner is no conservative unfortunately and the democrats will end up getting what they want. I have about given up on the GOP. They fold like a cheap suit every time
It's
Daniel Horowitz (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 8:58PM EDT (link)just like the April CR deal that other conservatives were applauding, while Erick was bemoaning. As it turned out, the CBO scored it as less than 500 million in savings.
I ain't blind
snowshooze (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 8:59PM EDT (link)But many more are.
Boehner moved our goalpost’s all the way to inside theirs.
But what I do not know, is what to do about it.
It would be near impossible to fire Boehner at this point, agreed?
So, then what???
Just raise the debt ceiling. Talk spending cuts separately.
Spiral (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 9:05PM EDT (link)The GOP should not link the debt ceiling increase with the debate over spending cuts.
Pass a debt ceiling increase, as long as there are no tax increases in it.
Then say to Obama and Reid, “If you want to cut that gigantic deficit that you created, pass some spending cut legislation out of the US Senate. The day after you do that, we will pass spending cut legislation out of the US House.
If you don’t want to cut spending, that’s okay. It’s your funeral in November 2012.
Simple. The GOP is not in power and not responsible for the bone-headed decisions made by the Democrats. The GOP should simply look ahead to the November 2012 elections and try to build on their 2010 victories.
The Obama Bread Lines
2012
keven (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 9:15PM EDT (link)Have faith. Just wait until 2012 when Republicans will have control of the Senate and have an establishment endorsed Republican President. Then McConnell can unilaterally pass Cut, Cap and Ballance and Republicans can do the right thing and make huge cuts in discretionary spending that will be painful and they can take on Medicare and Social Security unilaterally with a partisan plan that will fix those programs.
Yes, the media will potray them poorly. But once we have this power in 2012, I know McConnell and the rest of the Republican Senators will do the right thing and risk their power then. I just know it. You wait and see. Especially with the courageous leadership of an establishment Republican President, it is just a matter of patience folks.
Seriously, you can trust them. I’m serious. As serious as they are.
Have Faith?
udtiger Tuesday, July 26th at 9:21PM EDT (link)What has the GOP done to give you any faith?
Do you recall when we had the Presidency and Congress under Bush 2? Are we facing a debt “crisis” right now? Why? Because while Obama and the Dems put drunken sailors to shame, Bush and the GOP certainly had those inebriated mariners looking over their shoulders.
“Everybody needs money! That’s why they call it money!”
Give them a little credit
Kyle-MI (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 9:25PM EDT (link)They have hung in there so far and have not given in to a tax increase. Sure that is a very low bar to clear but they still could have messed up on it.
I think he was being sarcastic
inovrmihd Tuesday, July 26th at 9:59PM EDT (link)eom
An "establishment supported president?"
rightwingnut2 (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 9:29PM EDT (link)I thought you were being sarcastic until I read the rest of your comment.
No guarantee in 2013. But a much better chance.
Spiral (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 9:31PM EDT (link)I am not saying that if the GOP wins the White House, US Senate and US House in 2012 that it is 100 percent guaranteed that the GOP will deliver significant spending cuts.
We know what happened in the last decade under George W Bush.
However, to have any real chance of enacting the conservative agenda, including spending cuts, we must elect the GOP White House, US Senate and US House in 2012.
Trying to enact the conservative agenda now is doomed. Clearly doomed.
The Democrats won big in the 2006 elections. But they didn’t pass Obama-care in 2007.
Why not?
Because they knew that it was better to wait until they had the White House, the US Senate and the US House.
In American politics, you have to win all 3 first, then you can enact your agenda.
The Obama Bread Lines
2012 - keven
PaladinLostHour (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 9:46PM EDT (link)THAT is freaking hilarious.
You managed to convey all the earnest reassurance of the Kudlow / Ponnuru / usual NRO suspects, as they urge to look just a teccch further down the road to the coming Promised Land.
Well done sir. I only wish most folks saw as clearly that, once again, we’re going to take it in the shorts, lied to again by Boehner & Co.
Thanks
keven (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 11:38PM EDT (link)Sorry if it wasn’t obvious enough for some, but yes it was sarcasm. Thanks for laughing.
I learned my lesson after the last budget fight.
Not too bright
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 9:27PM EDT (link)are you? If you give the dems the ability to spend more via a raised debt ceiling, there is no incentive to talk spending cuts, period. You can state lets do the cutting come 2012, but either you are a psychic or are counting your chickens before they hatch. We have no guarantee we will win the congress in 2012 or any other upcoming year nor do we have any guarantee of beating Obama in 2012. The only thing we know is the debt is way past sustainable, the spending is out of control, and if something is not done now, we are screwed. And to take away the only Ace in the hole we have at this point is absolutely moronic.
Exactly. If the Dems don't cut spending, they lose in 2012.
Spiral (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 9:33PM EDT (link)At that point, we can cut spending because we have defeated the Democrats.
We have to win the elections first, then we can enact our agenda.
The Obama Bread Lines
The debt ceiling isn't an ace in the hole.
Spiral (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 9:36PM EDT (link)The debt ceiling isn’t an ace in the hole.
If the GOP refuses to raise the debt ceiling because the Democrats refuse to cut spending sufficiently, the GOP gets blamed for the bad economy, even though the bad economy is Obama’s fault and the Democrats fault.
The GOP should raise the debt ceiling and then look ahead to the 2012 elections.
If we win big, as we probably will, then we can talk about serious spending cuts.
Having this spending cut discussion now is premature. By about 16 or 17 months.
The American people elected Obama for a 4 year term and they have to suffer for the entire 4 years. The GOP should not try to cut short the pain by stepping in.
The Obama Bread Lines
This is the, hands down, most idiotic thing ever said on this site
PowerToThePeople (Diary) Wednesday, July 27th at 1:47AM EDT (link)and that is including even my less than stellar moments. And this is a reply to both of the stupid comments you made.
We do not wait till a hypothetical win in a future election to take care of business. If the powers to be follow your moron outline, they need to be fired as well/
The debt ceiling is the ace in the hole. We know the dems want it badly. We know they can not get it without our help and we know they know we know. So you do not give it without getting what you want in return. That is called an ace in the hole.
Who cares who gets blamed. If people are moronic enough to buy into Obama’s nonsense, so be it. But a person should do the right thing no matter what the consequences may be. And people have heard Obama demand tax increases of nearly 1/6 of the current GDP. If they are stupid enough to think that high of new taxes will help fix things and that spending our way out of debt will ever work, they were lost to our side to begin with.
We may not be able to get the cuts needed, but it is absolute BS to state that we need to wait till a hypothetical win in 2012 to do what is needed now. We have to force the other side into concessions or this country is in deep trouble.
And again, another stupid comment. We can get cuts now, serious cuts, if we hold our ground.
Now I saved the dumbest of your comments till last. If you really stand behind your last comment and really believe our party should let the country go down the crapper just because Obama was elected, you should really find a deep hole and remain there till the day you die. A comment like this is deserving of nothing but absolute contempt.
So you don't care about the principal issue at stake then?
BigRedConservative (Diary) Wednesday, July 27th at 3:34AM EDT (link)This isn’t about politics, or looking good or pointing fingers. This is about returning government to it’s Constitutional mandate, and the debt ceiling has simply added a level of urgency to the matter.
And two and two always makes a five
It’s the devil’s way now
There is no way out
You can scream and you can shout
It is too late now
Radiohead
I swear I almost want to vomit...
udtiger Tuesday, July 26th at 9:18PM EDT (link)The House needs to go “all in” on a REAL solution.
1) Reduce spending to 2007 levels (pre-TARP, pre-stimulus, pre-Obamacare)
2) Reduce those numbers by 5-10% across the board
3) BBA
“Everybody needs money! That’s why they call it money!”
Handwringing and worrying are not our friends
alreadyexists Tuesday, July 26th at 9:22PM EDT (link)Boehner caved weeks ago and soon the sell-out will be evident for all to see, just like the 2011 budget resolution from last April. No amount of whining is going to change that, so let’s not waste time grumbling about what might have been.
Soon we will have a list of RINOs and weak-kneed moderate Republicans in the House who desperately need a new occupation. This is where we can do the most good going forward. Precinct committees should begin immediately to canvas for strong candidates to take on the incumbent in primary challenges and Tea Party activists need to begin to explore third party registration in their state. The only thing that can change behavior in Washington DC is if we can make these Judas pay a price at the ballot box. With 10% unemployment, there should be no shortage of campaign workers in the coming election season.
I would be happy with just a single right now
Kyle-MI (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 9:22PM EDT (link)Clear out the committee and all the other junk from the bill. Put in some simple front loaded modest cuts ($10 to $50 billion). No tax increases. Keep it short term so this is an issue in 2012. And keep it simple.
Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a very short term (about a month) increase in the debt ceiling. They are running out of time to get anything through the legislative process. The price for such a very short term increase should be an immediate $1 billion cut.
O has vowed to veto
lastgopinillinois (Diary) Wednesday, July 27th at 1:20AM EDT (link)any short term bill.
And have you noticed? The democomms are now playing the “certainty” card. Secretly, though, they are talking about Obamas re-election certainty, not economic certainty.
Man, they sure can spin an issue!
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Where did they go?
ghostship Tuesday, July 26th at 9:25PM EDT (link)Gee, I wonder where all those supporters of Boehner’s plan have disappeared to?
Hiding
gunslingr45 Wednesday, July 27th at 10:58AM EDT (link)behind the dems skirts no doubt.
Socialism billions dead, but liberals keep wanting to try it…..
CUT, CAP AND BALANCE
traversecityconservative (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 10:33PM EDT (link)Or nothing. Leave it in the Senate and Obama’s hands. Otherwise, we get 40% cuts on everything. Win-win.
Bohner should call the House to order tomorrow...
udtiger Tuesday, July 26th at 10:39PM EDT (link)And he should then adjourn for 2 weeks with a message to the Senate that CCB is all they are going to get in terms of legislation from the House on the debt ceiling.
“Everybody needs money! That’s why they call it money!”
House Tea partiers have indicated
lastgopinillinois (Diary) Wednesday, July 27th at 1:24AM EDT (link)to the press that there are not enough votes to pass Boehners plan tonight.
They are holding fast to CCB.
It has passed the house.
They want Reid to let it be debated in the senate
In the beginning, God created earth to be an extension of his vast Kingdom and his LOVE was so great that he wanted to share it with man, whom he created in his own image and likeness and gave him free will.
To this very principal, the Founding Fathers of our nation decreed that freedom is a God-given in-alienable right of all the people.
Just saw Cantor on the tube
gpclaw Wednesday, July 27th at 1:34AM EDT (link)He stated that he wants a deal to include a balanced budget amendment, then failed to mention CCB.
The house leadership is a joke. They are treating last weeks vote on CCB as if it never happened. Instead of running away from the bill that passed the House, they should put their hands behind their head, kick up their heals, and announce that they have done their job, now it’s up to the Senate to act.
"2/3 Of Callers Support Boehner" Says Aide In His Office
Ausonius (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 11:10PM EDT (link)Local Ohio news at 11:05 P.M. had a report with an interview of an aide claiming a majority of support for Boehner’s plan.
“I’d say about 2/3 are in support…”
Well, he would say that!
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I don't doubt the numbers either.
mbecker908 (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 11:19PM EDT (link)nt
This deal doesn't work
Adjoran (Diary) Tuesday, July 26th at 11:17PM EDT (link)Not enough cuts in the current year – although it won’t be much with only a couple of months left in it. But $10 this FY and $50-100 in the next would be like a snowball rolling down a mountain for the out years.
The real killer is the stupid “committee,” though. It’s never ever ever ever resulted in reduced spending, only accounting tricks, smoke and mirrors. It MUST go to make the deal acceptable.
Why is a joint congressional committee doing that anyway? It’s the President’s job to submit a budget. Tell him to submit CBO-scored cuts if he wants his next installment on the debt ceiling. No more hiding behind generalities and speeches, Barry – do your dang job, you lazy, shiftless, good-for-nothing.
Whether in power or out.....
gnomechumpsky Wednesday, July 27th at 12:01AM EDT (link)they promise cuts in spending. Always over a ten year period. Later after they fail or renege, we’ll be reminded how, despite all their flaws, they are still better than Liberals.
CCB, anything else at this point is from people not concerned with the future of this country.
So called cuts
gpclaw Wednesday, July 27th at 1:20AM EDT (link)None of the proposals actually cuts any spending. Instead, they only cut the growth of future spending. With any of the deals, spending will still grow each year, just not as fast.
Cut Cap and Balance was the compromise. If the Senate refuses to have a vote on CCB, instead of trying to compromise even more, the new deal should be no future spending. Lock in current spending until tax revenues exceeds spending.