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Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures and lots of courage

Over the past week, the Tea Party has been impugned and maligned with more ferocity than ever before.  Amidst our push to balance the budget, downsize job-killing government agencies and programs, and preserve our AAA credit rating, we have been condemned as extremists, suicidal, and traitors.  Sadly, most of these acrimonious ad hominem attacks were propagated by those who purport to share the aforementioned goals, but feel repulsed by our “intransigent” sense of urgency.  Some have even regurgitated Democrat talking points suggesting that Reagan would be labeled a RINO by the Tea Party.

These writers and commentators who supposedly share our ultimate goals for limited government, yet condemn our tactics and sense of urgency, are lacking a sober understanding of the severity of our current predicament in relation to Reagan’s era.

As grim as the situation was at the time of Reagan’s inauguration in 1981, it simply doesn’t compare to the magnitude of our problems precipitated by the growth of the federal government, the insolvent debt, and rampant government dependency.  Reagan came to power and fought for limited government in order to preclude the very eventuality that we are experiencing today.  Today, in 2011, we are suffering under every pernicious effect of a tyrannical government; the magnitude to which Reagan did not experience, but presciently attempted to avert.

Although Reagan succeeded in his fundamental goals of stalling the inexorable growth of government, cutting taxes, rolling back some regulations, and winning the Cold War, he realized at the end of his presidency that those victories were not sufficient to countermand the self-perpetuating growth of government dependency and tyranny.  He knew that due to factors which were mostly beyond his control he had failed to eliminate a significant number of agencies and programs that serve as the backbone for the statist society.

Reagan had learned that liberals had insidiously co-opted so many rent-seekers in government that it was impossible to win a war of attrition by fighting agency-to-agency and program-to-program warfare.  Fifty years of steady movement toward socialism had shown that any edict promulgated by the federal government, much like the ancient Persian government described in Esther, “may not be revoked.”  He realized that something drastic had to be done to prevent the immutable growth of government that he so ominously envisioned after his departure.

To that end, in 1987, Reagan proposed America’s Economic Bill of Rights.  Not only did his plan include a balanced budget amendment; it contained a 2/3 vote requirement for raising taxes, and a constitutional ban on price and wage controls (Reagan’s speech).  Some might have called it extreme; others might have condemned it as unrealistic; Reagan viewed it as imperative and indispensable for the future of the nation, even though the government was a fraction of its current size.

As the saying goes, the rest is history.  Reagan never saw his dream come to fruition.  Instead of electing leaders who would continue in his footsteps, Americans elected leaders to the White House and Congress that continued to augment the size of government, the dependency state, and all of its liberty-infringing, job-killing, income-destroying, and regressive price-hiking side effects.  Then, following the 2006 elections, we elected people who have grown government to such unparalleled levels that we are now on the precipice of incorrigible indebtedness, irrevocable dependency, and perennial economic stagnation.

Let’s borrow a sports analogy to conceptualize the magnitude of our current challenge and the commensurate degree of commitment that is required to solve it.  When you are down one or two touchdowns in a football game, you don’t play as if you are down four touchdowns.  But when you are down four touchdowns, by George, you better play as if you’re down six touchdowns.  Reagan’s presidency had predated much of the insurmountable socialism that we face today, yet he deemed it necessary to push constitutional amendments as a means of preempting further statist gains.  Now that we have lost all those points to the forces of statism, it is even more incumbent upon us to go for the big plays.

Historically, the growth of government statism has been irremediable.  For every “100 yards” that they have advanced, our most successful counteroffensive has only slowed their rate of advance by a few yards.  Now, after 80 years of soft-socialism, and 2 1/2 years of hard-Marxism, if nothing drastic is done, the government will control our healthcare sector, financial sector, and many other large components of our once proud free market.  In other words, we are down big in the Super Bowl of socialism.

At present, there are hundreds of government agencies, commissions, and offices (many more than in the 80s) that promulgate $1.75 trillion worth of regulations on our job-creators.  It is no wonder that a record number of Americans are not in the workforce.  Concurrently, those government monstrosities oversee 2,184 assistance programs, in which many of the recipients have been negatively affected by the initial government intervention.  In addition, there are 45 million Americans who are dependent on food stamps, 50 million enrolled in Medicaid, while more than half of all Americans receive some sort of payout from the government.  That is the double-edged sword that has been foisted upon us by the inane cycle of government dependency and destruction.

As dependent as the citizenry is on the government, the government is just as dependent upon every citizen for its indebtedness.  At the current pace, in just 20 years, every man, woman, and child will be responsible for over $100,000 in debt.  This is merely a cursory glimpse into the leviathan public policy challenge that awaits us.

Just as Obama’s failed presidency has provided us with unparalleled challenges, it has provided us with historic opportunities.  Obama, through his vivid demonstration of failed socialism, has been a more effective advocate for limited government than any conservative leader.  An overwhelming majority of the public supports limited government, low taxes, a balanced budget, and repeal of Obamacare.  Moreover, as the public continues to see how Obama’s policies engender economic decline, Obama’s disapproval continues to rise.  He is now virtually unelectable among Independent voters – the very demographic that the incrementalists on our side claim are repulsed by the Tea Party.

We feel that now is the time to harness our historic mandate, instead of punting it for some unrealistic future political era, in which there are no verifiable means to ensure success.  Nor is there any reason to believe that those responsible will have more fortitude to make those bold decisions that they are currently avoiding.

We must remember that good friends can disagree on how to implement shared goals.  But, at some point, there must be a sense of urgency that will unite us all to make bold decisions.  Yes, perhaps even more bold and “extreme” than those implemented by Reagan in the ’80s.  And you know what?  Reagan would have done the same thing.  After all, we live in extreme times – times that Reagan tried to avoid with extreme constitutional measures.

In that sense, we are the Reagan Revolution of our generation.  And regarding the forceful push for a constitutional amendment limiting government, the Tea Party is the Reagan Revolution 2.0.

Looking down from heaven, Reagan would be proud of the newly organized “mob of extremists” that he so profoundly inspired.

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  • charliesalmanack

    ….how they can make Defense cuts part of a trigger?

    How on earth do you make national security needs dependent upon agreement among this select committee, when you know Reid/Pelosi will populate it with people who DEMAND tax increases?

    This is the definition of irresponsibility.

    And how does the CIC say it’s “ok” for national security needs to get gutted automatically? How does any CIC agree to that?

    For pete’s sake, can some leader please set up a House equivalent to Jim DeMint’s Senate Conservative’s Fund so we can primary the GOP members who blew this opportunity to actually change things?

    • ss396

      It’s the same basic mentality behind zero tolerance: no one has to make a decision, because there is a little piece of paper that says things have to be done this way; no exceptions.

      With these zero tolerance automatic cuts, Congress doesn’t have to actually make any decisions, or take a stand on principle, or bear responsibility for anything. It all gets handled mechanically, regardless of any individual merit of this or that allocation. It’s a complete abdication of office.

      Oh, by the way, obeying without question a little piece of paper that states what needs to be done is first cousin to the “Nuremberg Defense.” I am not accusing Congress of war crimes with this crappy duck-and-cover stratagem, but the principle is the same.

  • Bobcat51

    one da* red cent will ever go from my household to the Republican Party ever again. The barrage of attacks on the Tea Party by Rino’s and others has been shameful. Boehner and McConnell are a disgrace.

    • redmanrt

      It will only be a society in which the demothugs can loot at leisure.

    • Fla Mom

      If not, see Cold Warrior’s many posts on the subject and read the info at his website. Don’t just stop giving to RINO’s; replace them.

      Fla Mom

      • Bobcat51

        ,,,just a poor, soon to be very poor tax paying patriot who supports the Tea Party as best I can with my donations.

        • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

          We need people like you to show up at your local Party committee meeting and become a voting member of the Party. Go to my little blog below and look on the right side for the links to state-specific resources. Get as many conservatives as you can to “invade” your Party. E-mail me at coldwarrior1978 at gmail dot com if you have specific questions.

          Thank you.

          ColdWarrior

          • nepanyrush

            Well, my wife really. Became a committeewoman and got others into that position and got rid of the Republican leader, who was really — as hard as this is to believe — a supporter of Democrats. The Democrats supported his personal business, so he always manipulated the worse candidates. They put pressure on my wife to tow the line, and it has not been easy, but now we got Teaparty people calling the shots.

          • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

            write up a short Diary entry about it with a few more details? Of just write it up here in the comments? These are the kinds of success stories people need to learn from.

            Thank you.

            ColdWarrior

  • popdaddy

    Rush spent a lot of time this week talking about baseline budgeting.

    The current whining, lies and tricks on the debt ceiling is fine to set the stage that The Moron and democrats need to be reigned in. But the Federal fiscal year ends in two months. Why is there no mention of the 2012 budget?

    The GOP has sent a new fiscal year budget to the Senate. Work should start tomorrow to amend the Ryan budget to address baseline budgeting. There should be no automatic increase in projected Federal spending in the new fiscal year. Funds from the old pork stimulus funding need to be backed out for 2012 and all agency budgets should be reduced by at least 1% from 2011 (2008).
    Reid needs to be told in no uncertain manner, there will be no continuing resolutions. Get control of the Federal budget and the debt ceiling can be made a non-issue.

    • Adjoran

      they can spend much more with less accountability with no budget, which is why they abandoned the process.

      But we can’t dictate to Reid. Any government shutdown now will be blamed on us, and will certainly cause a downgrade in bond rating which could quadruple our interest costs. So he’ll call that bluff – not that he has to, since this deal will probably function as the de facto budget for 2012 anyway.

      Our best plan is to beat them badly and change the way Washington does business. Start the BBA process, but also revise the budget law to Zero Base Budgeting, so every dime has to be justified every year – no more “last year plus x” budgeting.

      • edintexas

        Our Bond Rating will be downgraded no matter what – well, if the “deal” was to legally and legitimately bind all future Congresses to run a surplus such that the debt would be reduced each year – AND future entitlements are changed to ensure the programs do not run out of funds – AND Obamacare is eliminated -THEN our Bond Credit rating will still be AAA.

        Well, the deal doesn’t even come close – regardless of the disinformation campaign of the Democrats (i.e. the screaming, wailing and gnashing of teeth by Democrats like the NY Times, WaPo, the Congressional Black Caucus, et al about how bad the deal is from the Progressive/Socialist perspective), Boehner didn’t get 30% of what was needed, regardless of his BS that he got 98%. He may have gotten 98% of what HE wanted. I’m not calling him a RINO, I’m saying he is an establishment Republican first and foremost. Conservatism comes in a very distant 3d (I’m giving credit for being a patriot 2d. And, in his mind, I’m sure he believes he is doing what is best for the country because he conflates what is good for the party with being good for the country).

    • http://www.AmericanThinker.com Hammer2008

      but as we have learned, we need to reach far far further in order to get half of what you’re proposing, under this GOP congressional leadership.

      The BBA should be attached to every fiscal bill sent to Senate. Let’s make majority leader Reid’s last 17 months the most painful ever for him and the 23 democrat senators up for reelection in 2012.

  • charliesalmanack

    the “triggers” are going to be populated with something awful, and Reid/Pelosi are going to put people on the committee who demand tax increases.

    And then we’re going to be faced with a choice of either raising taxes or gutting national defense.

    This is absolutely unbelievable. Honestly…I’m speechless that they’re agreeing to this.

    • redmanrt

      If you consider that some of the congressmen (republicans as well as dimmocrats), are being blackmailed, then it all makes sense.

    • nepanyrush

      Even on Fox News I see this as being portrayed as trigger for Republicans is the defense cuts and the trigger for the Democrats is the domestic spending, as if Republicans do not care about domestic issues. And both triggers actually seem to favor the Democrats, since the “medicare cuts” is really the cuts to the service providers. When push comes to shove on the committee making the final cuts, the Democrats will have all the power and the outcome will be horrible.

      This is a big win for the Democrats and Obama and RINOs.

  • runner12

    What many fail to realize is that we are past the point of meaningless “compromises” that do nothing to solve our numerous debt problems and massive expansion of government.

    However “extreme” it may seem to others, it is time for our lawmakers to make the difficult decisions. The current compromise that is being reported must be rejected in favor of one that actually solves the our nation’s problems.

  • Aaron Gardner

    We are the sons of the Reagan Revolution and we intend to finish the job he started.

  • lineholder

    Our nation can’t keep going down the same path it has, that’s for certain. We’re almost to that point of no return as it is.

  • SoFiMil

    Enough is enough

  • quill67

    9 Trillion more in debt in just the next 10 years. That is almost $30,000 per person so my family of four that that is $120,000.

    This is insane. CREDIT RATERS demand we cut $4 TRILLION BUT WE ONLY PLAN TO CUT $1 Trillion and this called a good compromise?

    How bad must it be for our creditors to demand we borrow less?

    Can you imagine your credit card company calling you and saying ” Gee we are worried about how much you are spending. Could you spend a little less?”

  • charliesalmanack

    …politically, at least on a go-forward basis, this is going to set up Obama up exactly the way he wants.

    All the time this select comittee is debating, he’s going to be able to talk up 1) “compromise’, 2) “balance”, and 3) the “dire consequences” of not coming to a deal (cuts to seniors and to Defense). And he won’t be responsible anymore for anything: he just gets to finger-point and comment the entire time, because once he signs this deal he’s washed his hands of it completely.

    The set-up here prevents Obama’s feet from ever getting held to the fire again on this issue.

    Our leadership has completely screwed the pooch: policy-wise and politically. They’re just incapable of gaming things out.

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    I especial enjoyed the point about the GOP’s repeated failure to actually stop and reverse the growth of government. All they’re ever able to do, or all they’re ever interested in doing, is slow the growth. The socialists have always played the long game, have relentlessly and tirelessly moved the ball down the field, most of the time with just token opposition. From this point forward we can’t afford to elect anyone that isn’t a fiscal warrior dedicated to waging war on the socialists and the federal leviathan. We simply can no longer tolerate the go along to get along establishment GOP types.

  • Carner_York

    Obama has gotten his way turning everything into a crisis and then coming in at the last moment to hurry legislation through. He’s doing it again with the debt ceiling. I say, let the REAL crisis begin. Let’s default. Let Wall Street implode. Let hundreds of billions of personal wealth vanish. Let’s bring it out in the open. We are bankrupt! I don’t want to lose my house and I am getting close to that point but more importantly, I don’t want to lose my country. Our only chance of righting the ship, as I see it, is to look the progressive monster in the eye and say, you are an impediment to our survival and you must die!

    • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

      We have more than enough money coming into the federal treasury each month to pay bondholders. Otherwise I agree, let the deadline pass and let’s see what happens. Since we borrow 40 cents of every dollar spent passing the deadline should result in n automatic 40% budget cut. It’s what we want, right? Bring it!

  • anjinconsulting

    so do we but unlike them, no one has penned an articulate case explaining the extenuating circumstances that compel us to rise against the Republican Party; there is no stated goal by which sucess can be measured.

    It would be good to have such a key document as the foundation for the overthrow of the leadership of the Republican Party. That way, members and leaders can be judged against a standard.

  • carolina

    Fox guy is trying to understand Boehner’s powerpoint presentation – and wondering if Reid can table it.
    Well, at least we can get record votes by the senators – even though they will ‘game’ the vote.

  • d_lamar

    Once the tipping point of those receiving welfare, benefits, entitlements, and subsidies went over 50% of the population, a political solution became impossible. There are more people benefitting from the ridiculous spending and big government than there are those paying for it.

    I fear that it will eventually all come to a nasty end, but it won’t be because of anything that is done in Washington to stop it.

  • Doc Holliday

    I completely agree with your goals. But this is a long war, we can’t risk the whole thing in one fight, that would be foolhardy, and treasonous for a commander. We must get all we can in this skirmish, but we can’t risk destruction when it need not be risked.

    Hitler would not allow Paulus to lose an inch of ground, and that mandate sewed the defeat of operation Barbarossa.

    • ghostship

      A long war?

      So I take it that you don’t think the US is all that much in trouble? We’re having to borrow 40 cents for every dollar spent and that percentage is going up. Are we wrong for thinking that this is NOT a major issue?

      Please explain your view on how the financial state of the country is NOT that big of a problem.

      Because to me and many others it is a big issue. It’s an issue that NEEDS to be addressed right NOW.

      But hey if you don’t think it’s that big a problem and we can kick the can down the road instead of dealing with the issue then I and many others would be glad to hear your explanation of how we’re wrong.

      Many of us are looking at this and see nothing but the utter financial destruction of the US bearing down on us and our families. I think YOU greatly overestimate how much time we have before we past the point of no return.

      • Doc Holliday

        if you studied history, you would know politicians on the right have been railing against the national debt since before many here were born. Do you remember Ross Perot? Do you remember Reagan’s “A Time to Choose”?

        Pardon me if I think defeating the 60′s rejects and their statist/socialist goals is our primary job. Excuse me if I think some here are running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

        I believe we need a coordinated and concerted effort to defeat our enemies. I believe we need to start acting like a team that can focus and exploit our opponents weaknesses. I believe we have to have true leaders that can bring electoral victories. If we don’t find these leaders, and follow them, then we have no chance of fixing this nation.

        • olds88er

          In 1968 I was the San Diego chairman for the American Independent Party when we ran Wallace and LeMay for President. To no avail. In 1965 I busted my butt, after the lost Goldwater campaign, to get Reagan elected California Governor. Success! In 1992 I was the County Treasurer in Miami for The Reform Party. Had to wind up voting for Bush when Perot couldn’t make up his mind if he wanted to run for President or not. And as you will recall, his campaign was all about the massive debt we would be leaving our children. Remember all of those pie charts? So I’ve been in this battle for a long time. And at 84 I am still in it! 5 kids, 12 grandkids, and 11 (so far) great grand kids keeps me in the fight. We won big last November so lets keep fighting to finish the job in 2012. Gird up your loins!

          • Doc Holliday

            you in in for the long haul, that is for sure! :)

      • Doc Holliday

        so you can’t say what I “greatly overestimate”. In fact, I probably did more to prepare for the nation’s credit downgrade than you or others have done. It is easy to spout off, but I put my money where my mouth is. I expect a downgrade, and planned for it. Tomorrow will bring an artificial “relief rally”, and I will act accordingly then too.

        You can say what you believe I have wrong and underestimate, but you don’t know a thing about me. You will do better here if you stick to what is written and respond to that. It seems to me you are responding to a post I did not make. It is like you had a response before you ever read the question.

        My beef here is that many of my fellow conservatives are so focused on taking each other out, they are about to miss the whole damn war.

        • ghostship

          Yes I know that the Right has been complaining about the debt since before I was even born. I also know that with the Baby Boom generation beginning to retire and the ever increasing socialization of our government that we are finally nearing the end of the line.

          It’s great for you that you’ve done so much for yourself “to prepare” but how about showing a little concern here in wanting the government to put forth a “real” plan to fix this nations problems.

          Pardon me, but if you consider giving the Left everything they want and getting nothing in return a victory then I would hate to see what you call a defeat.

          My beef lies with trying to get some my fellow Conservatives to fight to win instead of just to postpone defeat.

    • olds88er

      I know about Paulus at Stalingrad and I totally agree that staying in place and not breaking out sealed the Germans’ fate.

  • lineholder

    Has anyone else seen this?

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/07/31/deal-watch-yes-or-no/

    • runner12

      It sounds like the early reports are that Boehner is going to push this bad deal in the House. I will give him credit for negotiating it to be less awful than what McConnell cooked up, but it is still awful.

      As to the Left howling over this, I am sure they are as they wanted tax increases and not spending cuts. But the fact that they are crazy progressives does not make this plan more fiscally sound nor does it prevent me from opposing the passage of this compromise as it stands right now.

      If the plan included the BBA being sent to the states, I woukd be on board. But as it stands right now it appears to be more smoke and mirrors.

    • Doc Holliday

      just scroll back in the threads until you find one.

  • clarioncaller

    The latest plan is so badly constructed it hard to know where to begin. One of the worst is 1 Trillion in cuts over 10 years.PURE FANTASY and everyone knows those cuts will not happen. Republican leadership in the House and Senate need to be replaced.

    Reading the fine print you will find there can be tax increases as a result of the agreement.

    If this were a business ..people should be fired…tonight.

  • Wayne

    These times are unfortunate but necessary to remind ourselves what we stand for. 2012 will be the beginning of swinging the pendulum in the other direction. This time, the economy will get so bad that it will be inevitable. Now for those of us who have learned our lessons about proactive behavior and community organizing, we have be at the top of our game if we do not want to see the worst happen.

    Everything going on today is bad, but it’s no where near as bad as it could be and would be without the tea party and the constitutional conservative awakening resulting from its emergence.

    We’ll win this war because it is virtually impossible to keep the human spirit’s desire to be free suppressed for any extended period of time.

    But between now and the time things get better, unfortunately, because of today, it will get a whole lot worse. And, it is necessary for it to, unfortunately.

  • traversecityconservative

    that the Federal government is SUPPOSED to do is defend us and these SOBs have the nerve to put defense cuts anywhere in the bill. The Constitution says nothing about Medicare or Medicaid, the EPA, the Dept. of Education, unemployment money, green energy grants, or any of the other socialism crap that the Democrats have us paying for. We will be watching who votes for this crap piece of legislation that has no real cuts and adds trillions to what we already owe. I usually don’t agree with Lindsey Graham, but he was right on the money tonight on Hannity’s show – we were running to bankruptcy and now we’re WALKING to bankruptcy.

    • http://www.AmericanThinker.com Hammer2008

      “It’s rather sad that “troll Tea Party” folk and actual conservative members of Congress have to fight the Commander in Chief of America’s Armed Forces to protect those who defend us…”

  • hmbill

    This is the message I sent to my Congressman and Senators; all Republicans from Texas.

    Republicans have yet to learn how to “fight like a girl”! If we did nothing about the debt ceiling, when we reach it, the budget would be balanced. Bingo! Isn’t that what you are there for? A few days of a balanced budget right here and now would have the democrats begging for serious but less
    severe, cuts phased in over a reasonable period of time, based on current spending (not base line BS).

    What many Republicans (God Love you) don’t give enough weight to when they claim that we control only one leg on the three legged stool of power is the fact that we have the majority in the only legislative body where revenues and expenditures may originate! We are in a position to say “cut”
    and they (the Democrats) are in a position to say “How much?”.

    To feed them (liberal/progressive democrats) softballs and give them an opportunity to turn around and bite us, as we are doing now, is crazy. We need to learn how to win! It is not to late. When the Senate guts Boehner’s bill and sends it back to the House, the Republicans need to say sorry, we’ve changed our mind. We will be sending you the Connie Mack bill with a 1% cut in current spending now and annually thereafter for six years with a GDP percentage Cap on spending, and a balanced budget amendment requirement that prohibits raising taxes as part of the balancing effort.

    When we send it over we need to advise them that that we are prepared to increase the current year spending decrease .01% for every week they dally with the bill, including waiting on the president’s signature. In the mean time, “consider the budget balanced”!

    I believe in “Hope and Change”. What I prescribe above, will give us “Hope” and will “Change” the course of our impending economic destruction. It is reasonable, and it is necessary, if we intend to get our house in order financially. You should consider it your job to accomplish these goals.

    “Compromise is but the sacrifice of one right or good in the hope of retaining another- too often in the loss of both” -Tyron Edwards

    My opinion; Only losers compromise if to do so is to sacrifice what is right and just in order to dilute it with evil and unjust.

    I plead with you, don’t compromise wisdom and don’t compromise your position of strength.

    If in a burning building, one group occupies the ground floor and a second group occupies the 40th floor, it would do neither group good to compromise and move to the 20th floor. That is where our nation finds itself today.

    It would be irresponsible to raise the debt ceiling without enacting fundamental reforms and spending cuts.

    Even if we reach the debt ceiling, America will not default on its debt unless Secretary Geithner refuses to pay interest on the debt.

    Please oppose any debt limit deal that doesn’t addresses the enormity of the fiscal challenges we face.

    • caliray

      You have composed one of the best comments I’ve read in this long thread. It has a clarity of reason not often found in these discussions. It’d be good if we had permission to copy your letter and send it to all elected federal officials.

      • hmbill

        To Caliray. Thanks. Permission granted. HMBill

  • ideasmatter

    The following short article at forbes explains the baseline gimmickry, and the huge budget increases this will amount to.

    http://blogs.forbes.com/richardsalsman/2011/07/29/washingtons-budget-cuts-would-boost-spending-50/

  • strikeeagle

    They will talk a good game and have nice parades, but once the shooting starts your are only going to get failed leadership, capitulation and surrender.

    And the problem that would have been containable, is now much bigger and messier … and will require a lot more resources to clean it up.

    We know who is Marshal Petain in the latest scenario — But who is our Churchill … someone willing to lead this fight?

    • d_lamar

      nt

  • lastgopinillinois

    in the armed services committee held a news conference yesterday July 30 and it was covered by C-Span. Members drew a line in the sand over more defense spending cuts.
    To see the video, go to the C-Span website, pick video library and type Buck McKeon in the search box. Pick the most recent video. Thats the one.

    Now we all know how much the Democomms HATE our military.
    I gotta wonder if the Democomms added that provision in the Reid bill purposely to knock McKeon for a loop.

  • carolina

    Changes by select committee to current baseline only = difficult to raise taxes

    “defense” includes all security related orgs like homeland security, etc. It is larger than just DOD

    The folks at dailykos seem to think the GOP got everything and the dems got a goose egg. Anyone who feels discouraged can always read their comments. It sure cheered me up!

    • carolina

      My, people can be a perverse lot! They are glad folks here are “going nuts”.

    • runner12

      and I do appreciate the attempt on the bright side; but the fact that the progressive socialists at Daily Kos are up-in-arms because the deal does not have any tax increases does not make the current deal as we know it any more fiscally sound.

      If we are serious about reducing spending and shrinking government, we must only support plans that move us in that direction.

      No more smoke and mirrors and baseline budgeting.

  • californiagold

    The way it has been reported, if the committee cannot reach consensus, the final arbitrator would be the treasury secretary.

    Based on everything I’ve read about the deal so far, it would have been far better for the republicans to have just given Obama a clean debt ceiling raise without strings attached.

    • clintonformccain

      If the committee can’t come to agreement (or has their recommendations voted down by congress, then the automatic mandatory spending caps kick in. Or, if congress can’t stomach the cuts, they can send the BBA to the states.

  • clintonformccain

    You could be Paul Krugman, patron saint of moonbats, writing in tomorrow’s NYTimes:

    “And then there are the reported terms of the deal, which amount to an abject surrender on the part of the president. ”

    “It is, of course, a political catastrophe for Democrats, who just a few weeks ago seemed to have Republicans on the run over their plan to dismantle Medicare; now Mr. Obama has thrown all that away. And the damage isn?t over: there will be more choke points where Republicans can threaten to create a crisis unless the president surrenders, and they can now act with the confident expectation that he will. ”

    “What Republicans have just gotten away with calls our whole system of government into question. After all, how can American democracy work if whichever party is most prepared to be ruthless, to threaten the nation?s economic security, gets to dictate policy? “

  • toothpick

    Boehner et al have carefully planned a Hobson’s choice to confront us right before the election in 2012: gut Defense and Medicare or raise taxes drastically. Perhaps they think they can play this to the R’s advantage by saying “It’s not our fault taxes went up, it was that gosh-darn commission.” I’d say that’s too clever by half (or more) and pathetically unprincipled.

    What a missed opportunity.

    • Adjoran

      The deal requires use of the current baseline, which assumes the Bush tax cuts will expire in 2013, so tax hikes will not be part of the “commission” package.

      It’s still a bad idea, but about the best we could reasonably hope for. Democrats and Obama don’t give a darn about the country, they have clients to feed.

      • toothpick

        So tax hikes (expiration of the Bush tax rates) are already built-in to the baseline. The only way to keep the Bush tax cuts in place will be to find offsetting “savings” – meaning even more pressure for tax hikes elsewhere.

  • http://www.AmericanThinker.com Hammer2008

    I find it a little funny that at the end of a loooong weekend, the #DebtDeal falls in sixth place of topics trending on Yahoo! The first five are:
    1. The Smurfs
    2. Shark Week
    3. Manchester United vs FC Barcelona
    4. Summer Movies
    (C’mon! Should this not be folded in with #1 at least) — and…
    5. National Dance Day (courtesy of SYTYCD: http://dance.blogs.fox.com/tag/national-dance-day/ )

    Who will be dancing at the Washington, D.C. event? Guessing our First Lady Michelle Obama and her pal of all things worth mentoring young girls over, Beyonce, will be there.

    • http://www.AmericanThinker.com Hammer2008

      … was Saturday, July 30th. Maybe that’s why the President has been “up all night” stressing out losing sleep.

      • http://www.AmericanThinker.com Hammer2008

        Bwahahahahaha! Check this out:
        From:
        http://dguides.com/washingtondc/blog/deals-and-freebies/national-dance-day-on-the-national-mall-july-30-2011/

        “The Office of Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton, in conjunction with “So You Think You Can Dance” producer and judge Nigel Lythgoe, the Dizzy Feet Foundation and the Larry King Cardiac Foundation, will host National Dance Day on Saturday, July 30th, 2011, on the National Mall between 3rd St & 4th St SW from 1-5pm. Norton and Lythgoe intend to make National Dance Day an annual celebration on the Mall on the last Saturday in July.”

        or even better, Representative Norton’s own presser:
        http://www.norton.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2141&Itemid=6

  • Adjoran

    but I do have to wonder in what universe Reid and Obama would agree to anything more than they did.

    I keep hearing people making assertions that the Democrats would HAVE to capitulate, but not one shred of evidence to back it up other than hope.

    Hope that Democrats and Obama might put the country before their own narrow political need to feed their parasitic supporters with the blood of the living . . . since when?

  • whoframedrudy

    First, you weren’t attacked for your ‘sense of urgency.’ You were attacked because you said you were willing to trigger a default.

    Second, by ‘those who purport to share your goals’, you mean those who would have voted for a Tea Party candidate but now won’t. A vote is not ‘purported support’, it’s a vote.

    You pushed it too far. You let yourself get Sista Solja’d by McConnell. Now he gets credit for your accomplishment while he also gets credit for smacking you down. He outplayed you.

    Commentators? Commentators have been cursing the Tea Party since you started. They called you Nazis. They said you wanted to assassinate the President. They called for Smith Act prosecutions. Nobody listened to commentators in 2010. It’s not the commentators. It’s your own willingness to trigger default (I don’t think that word is in this post anywhere) that confirmed the Dem talking points in the public’s mind.

    Long term, I agree, Republicans won’t stay the course on the deficit. Yes, Obama made things worse. A better President would have gotten more bang for the stimulus buck. But any President would have added a massive stimulus to Bush’s massive Republican deficits because of Bush’s Republican meltdown. So when Republicans return to form, will the Tea Party be able to do it again? Or did you just shoot your wad?

    Why do you talk about tactics without a realistic assessment of cause & effect? Your tactical mistake caused this backlash. Don’t blame commentators. I read the smartest play for the Tea Party on Pat Buchanan’s blog. A week ago, you could have had spending cuts, no tax increases, no more routine debt ceiling increases, nobody listening to BSNBC slanders, and a larger Tea Party caucus in 2012. It was a mistake to push it down to the wire. Own your mistake. Repair your brand.

    Why aren’t you thinking ‘damage control’ and ‘tactical reassessment’ instead of talking among yourselves about Reagan?

    The thing I remember most about Reagan is that he pulled out of Lebanon after the marine barracks attack. You know, I don’t think Obama would have.

  • 1stRichard

    Our government has done a grave injustice to us all and future generations, they have placed a perverted debt on our wealth, placing us in servitude to the government and this by definition is slavery. From usdebtclock.org, $130,166.00 debt + $1,027,355.00 liabilities = $1,157,521.00 each person. Furthermore, our government has burdened us with restrictions, this bureaucratic central planning, excessive development of bureaus to regulate us, to concentrate government power, and this by definition is tyranny. Liberals are quick to point out a forefathers were slave owners but look at what they have done to our beloved nation. Do we have a heavy progressive tax in the US Constitution, the land of equal opportunity, no, but here it is in the Communist Manifesto, it should be clear who the extremists are and what they are. Do we have nationalized healthcare or nationalized education in the US Constitution, here it is in the Russian Constitution, healthcare Article 41, education Article 43 and so on. It should be clear what these extremists want us to be more like, but the Tea Party when we say NO, we do not want to be more like them, WE want to be Individuals, and we are now the extremists.

    James Madison affirmed, “Government is instituted to protect property of every sort – conscience is the most sacred of all property.” Yet under the guise of bipartisanship and compromise, the Republican Party sold us out to socialist allotments controlling conscience. Too many people have become addicted to their socialist allotments from the government. This is the same as powerful additive drug that has control over your life, slavery. As with any addict, withdrawal is not easy and sometimes painful but the supply of this drug has run out and getting low, we simply cannot borrow any more to support this addiction. We cannot afford socialists buying votes with socialist allotment any more and some in the Republican Party playing the same game.

    • dajeeps

      I was oscillating between the debt debates in the House and Senate and heard all about the extreme, radical tea partiers holding the government hostage to exact funds from starving children and old ladies who need heart medication. I thought this to be quite rude as I never heard anyone call Pelosi, or any of those other Marxists, a commie on the floor. Maybe we should just take the gloves off and go down and dirty with them. It is obvious that by the time it gets that far, the opportunity for middle ground has already been lost if it ever existed in the first place. The best part about that exercise is that we wouldn?t have to make stuff up like they do.

  • 1stclasspettyofficer

    “If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.”–Chronicles 7:14
    This is the answer to every problem that besets us. It is so simple that we ignore it. We call such a solution foolishness. But we forget that, “the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.”
    –1 Corinthians 1:25
    Daily we pass laws that slap God in His face, and we wonder why our once great nation is in such a terrible situation. We call evil good and good evil, and wonder why we are in such a bad state. We murder innocent unborn by the truckload; we legalize sodomite marriage; we eliminate God from our public institutions, and wonder why it is so bad. People, the only thing that will save us from utter destruction is for those of us who claim to be disciples of Christ, or Christians, to be obedient to God’s Word and put into practice the simple command He has given us. If we do that we will see the miraculous transformation of the United States back to its place of world leadership and light.
    The plans of even the greatest of minds will only delay the eminent destruction we face if we refuse to turn back to the one true God, the God of the Bible, the Trinity; God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
    Label me an extremist if you wish. I would prefer to be an extremist for Christ. and suffer the scorn of men right now, than to suffer the wrath of Almighty God for eternity.

    • dajeeps

      Now I understand this quest for a BBA, although perhaps it should be rethought considering Reagan did face different circumstances, both in general political opinion about the role of government and the situation of indebtedness. It is my opinion that government has careened so much farther out of control since the time of Reagan and has proven to be of more harm than good with even greater potential for harm in the wrong hands, that there need not be any reason to preserve the breakdown in the meaning of the commerce clause that allows continued trampling of the 4th, 5th, and 10th amendments while we look the other way. And these have everything to do with the “why” government spends too much and regulates too much, and leaves nothing green and growing alive in its wake.

      It would be nice to have an agenda that I could look at and say, ok, so that’s what they’re doing. I have grown quite cynical of late, and I do not trust anything to be left half done, especially when it does not appear to me what will be done will solve the problems, or have an effect of putting Fedzilla back in the cage the framers made.

    • dajeeps

      I didn’t intend my comment to be a reply to yours, but a general comment to the original post. I inadvertently strated typing in the wrong box.

  • smagar

    “Why We Fight” was the title of a series of short movies in WW2, that showed the evils of the Axis to the American people.

    • 1stRichard

      By moderate Rs you mean more socialist. Drexler at a workers union meeting said, “I am a socialist like yourselves, and want manual workers to gain equality?” and with this, many bought in to the populist rhetoric ignoring what direction this was going to take them. A government that would provide for them ignoring the control and power they had lost. Adolf Hitler joined The German Workers Party making a note of his similar socialist ideology to gain power and with Hitler being a distinguished speaker who drew large crowds he was widely accepted. The path back then is almost word for word the same slippery slope we are on now as are all that suffered the consequences of socialism. There is no shame in speaking the truth but it is more shameful to hide the truth by calling it shameful.

    • Aaron Gardner

      Seriously, some people are just looking to be offended at this point.

    • Bill S

      His diary reads like a stark-raving ultra-right-wing diatribe, doesn’t it? Oh, it has “Godwin’s Law” written all over it…

      I thought it was the Leftists who looked for things to criticize on the Right.

      Get a grip.

    • streiff

      and this fairly early violation of Godwin’s law is egregious and unnecessary.

      The fact that you felt compelled to explain your objection, rather than relying on everyone to immediately know what you were talking about, makes your point a lot less interesting.

      • smagar

        If this comment of mine wasn’t to your liking, hopefully the next one will be. While I won’t pursue it further, my opinion stands unchanged.

        • Aaron Gardner

          But hey, why should that stop you.

    • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

      This was no more attempting to call moderate R’s Nazis than I was trying to call the economy itself National Socialist.

      • 1stRichard

        There is a difference between National and International to Socialists despite the fact they are almost the same. Here, listen to a typical socialist that I am talking with describe it?.

        http://files.meetup.com/1394602/NoHoPro2.wav

        ?.they do not like the term National Socialists despite the fact they are the same right down to the armband.

    • Repair_Man_Jack

      There you go. Now you can really claim someone peed in your Cheerios today.

  • jeffperren

    The author makes excellent points. But it’s helpful to remember that the fight is not solely, or even primarily, about money; it’s about morality.

    Should the Federal government has huge welfare programs like Social Security and Medicare? Should it exercise authority over Education, Housing, Energy, and so forth?

    Those are the concrete questions whose answers will determine whether we live in a free society or a dictatorship.