George W. Bush in 1999 vs. Rick Perry in 2011


How Much We Have Grown As Conservatives

Watching Governor Rick Perry’s speech at the Red State Gathering, I was struck by the degree to which conservatism has grown at the highest levels of electoral politics, including presidential elections, over the past decade.

Twelve years ago, another Texan, George W. Bush, announced his presidential bid by ushering in a new era of conservatism.  At the time, following the longest Republican exile from the presidency since the ’60s, many conservatives were willing to jump on the bandwagon of the first viable Republican candidate, irrespective of his veiled insults to conservatism.

Here is an excerpt from President Bush’s announcement speech in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, on June 12, 1999:

“I’m running because my party must match a conservative mind with a compassionate heart. [...]

It is conservative to insist on education standards, basics and local control. It is compassionate to make sure that not one single child gets left behind.

I know this approach has been criticized. But why? Is compassion beneath us? Is mercy below us? Should our party be led by someone who boasts of a hard heart? I know Republicans – across the country — are generous of heart. I am confident the American people view compassion as a noble calling. The calling of a nation where the strong are just and the weak are valued.

I am proud to be a compassionate conservative. I welcome the label. And on this ground I’ll take my stand.”

The inconspicuous implication of Bush’s newfound dictum was that pure, unadulterated conservatism, while perspicacious in theory, lacked inherent compassion in its application.  He felt that it must be tempered with big government handouts and control over the educational system.  Consequently, upon assumption of the presidency, President Bush ushered in a new era of big government conservatism; an oxymoron, if there ever was one.  He governed with a muddled concoction of conservatism (pro-life and tax cuts) mixed with “compassion” aka statism (the largest expansion of government at the time).  And as the saying goes, the rest is history.

It took a cathartic experience – the magnitude of an Obama Marxist presidency – for many on our side to understand the true meaning of compassion, along with the vivid vices of anti-conservative policies that are falsely propagated under its banner.  We have seen how the motherload of all Keynesian interventionist subsidy policies – from big corporate bailouts to dozens of anti-poverty programs – prolonged one of the deepest recessions.  Worse, it has permanently obviated any chance of recovery for the first time in our history.

Thus, we have learned how it is those very interventionist policies – policies that are compassionate on the surface, but meretricious in reality – which have led to rampant unemployment, housing and credit crises, skyrocketing healthcare, energy, and food costs, and permanent dependency on government.

In this vein there has been an awakening among Republicans that plain old conservatism, the intrepid and unvarnished brand, is inherently compassionate to the masses; that only a complete abrogation of big government as we know it, the government that punishes success and subsidizes, perpetuates, and exacerbates, poverty, will lead to true compassion for all; the type of compassion that allows a full level of job creation, income growth, and provides the cheapest cost of living.

Now, twelve years after Bush announced his presidential campaign under the banner of “compassionate conservative”, his successor as Governor of Texas is running under the “conservative compassionate” banner:

“You see, as Americans we’re not defined by class, and we will never be told our place. What makes our nation exceptional is that anyone, from any background, can climb the highest of heights. As Americans, we don’t see the role of government as guaranteeing outcomes, but allowing free men and women to flourish based on their own vision, their hard work and their personal responsibility. And as Americans, we realize there is no taxpayer money that wasn’t first earned by the sweat and toil of one of our citizens.

That’s why we reject this President’s unbridled fixation on taking more money out of the wallets and pocketbooks of American families and employers and giving it to a central government. “Spreading the wealth” punishes success while setting America on course to greater dependency on government. Washington’s insatiable desire to spend our children’s inheritance on failed “stimulus” plans and other misguided economic theories have given us record debt and left us with far too many unemployed. [...]

We stand up and proudly proclaim that Washington is not our caretaker and we reject the state that, in Margaret Thatcher’s words, she said a state that takes too much from us in order to do too much for us. We will not stand for that any longer. [...]

In America, the people are not subjects of government. The government is subject to the people. And it is up to us, to this present generation of Americans, to take a stand for freedom, to send a message to Washington that we’re taking our future back from the grips of central planners who would control our healthcare, who would spend our treasure, who downgrade our future and micro-manage our lives. [...]

And I’ll promise you this: I’ll work every day to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your life as I can. And at the same time, we’ll be freeing our families and small businesses and states from the burdensome and costly federal government so those groups can create, innovate and succeed.”

Twelve years after Texas proffered the conservative movement with compassionate conservatism, it might finally present us with ‘conservative compassionatism.’

 


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throwback59 Monday, August 15th at 8:49AM EDT (link)

My thoughts exactly, Dan. Bush’s qualifier for Conservatisim always rubbed me the wrong way. We don’t need “Conservatism Lite.” Could you imagine a democrat speaking about “intelligent” liberalisim?
Nice to hear someone speaking un-apologetically about our values.

 

"I'm Proud To Be An Employee Of These Fine People."

Ausonius (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 9:28AM EDT (link)

To echo the comments above by Perry: the quote above is from Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels describing himself in reference to the average Hoosiers at the state fair concert, who immediately jumped into action when a storm caused a stage to collapse on top of people.

Nobody waited for “someone in charge” to tell them what to do. As Americans they can take charge themselves and do what needs to be done.

I remember some years ago watching similar stories on American TV with some visiting Germans, who commented – ruefully and with admiration of the American spirit – that such actions would not have occurred in Germany. As European pacifism and passivity from socialism have wormed their way into people’s psyches, many problems wait until “an official” addresses them. “Grassroots action” rarely happens, whether political or non-political.

I am happy to see Perry emphasizing this positive trait in his speech.

Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.

Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.

Cato@rock.com

AND…Know Your Czars…Before They Hit BIG BRObama’s Unemployment Line in November: http://www.czarcards.us/

 

It didn't do George much good, or the nation.

johnt Monday, August 15th at 9:45AM EDT (link)

The concept as always expressed is a contradiction. Governments don’t have compassion, they have bureaus or departments, they have people who count minutes towards their two hour lunches, who have their retirement numbers memorized & and are always underpaid{?}.
George had the same gooey, aimless & free floating mess of uncoordinated attempts at ideas as his father, the sort of thoughtless mush you would expect at the breakfast table.
Democrats are focused, part parasite, part predator, a bit of cannibal, and all aimless blind hate. George never knew what he was up against, and if he did he wouldn’t have cared.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

We'll never really know, because W's presidency was totally transformed by 9/11..

gawken (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 9:57AM EDT (link)

But, as you correctly say, it was a “mushy mess of ideas…”

Nearly all forget that in his first SOTU address, beofe 9/11, W actually called for the federal governemtn to provide the down payments, so that poor people would eb able to buy homes.

Yes, but reducing the amount of down payment

Tbone (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 12:09PM EDT (link)

is of little consequence provided the borrower has a sufficient and PROVEN income stream to service the debt.

Paid in equity had little to do with the current foreclosure mess.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

It's tangential to what caused the housing crisis

aesthete (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 12:36PM EDT (link)

but having more people entangled in that mess sure wouldn’t have helped, and some of the later Bush-era policies did exacerbate the problem. At any rate, the federal government should not be involved in provision of down payments any more than it should be involved in the myriad of things that are choking America’s economy and piling up the debt.

“The United States symbolises the worst ideologies in the world: growth and freedom.”
-Pentti Linkola, writer and environmentalist

Really? What were those?

Tbone (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 4:21PM EDT (link)

“some of the later Bush-era policies did exacerbate the problem.”

Further, pain in equity wasn’t even the level of tangential.

The government never was involved in providing paid in equity, was it?

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 
 
 
 

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aesthete (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 12:40PM EDT (link)

Unfortunately, his domestic policy as much as his foreign policy was too mushy to serve as a guide for much of anything, and we paid for both in different ways.

“The United States symbolises the worst ideologies in the world: growth and freedom.”
-Pentti Linkola, writer and environmentalist

 
 

I think that you are partially right about Bush, but not completely

reddog53 (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 9:52AM EDT (link)

He gets the blame for explosions in spending, particularly in education, that were well underway before he got to the job.

The budget history available at http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/history/index.html is instructive; the comparison of what the administration requested in the President’s budget, versus what was appropriated, shows two remarkable things: from 1996 to 2001, budgets that had no input from the Bush administration but were passed when Republicans led the House, federal spending on elementary education nearly doubled — before the infamous No Child Left Behind act. After NCLB was instituted, there was an inevitable bulge, but the last 4 years of the Bush administration requested essentially “flat” funding.

I also think his compassionate conservatism was not necessarily tied to the growth of government; in fact, his early comments were that faith based organizations often did better than government, and the government should try to stay out of the way.

 

to the extent that conservatism is often conflated

streiff (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 9:52AM EDT (link)

with unbridled free market capitalism, I think Bush was entirely accurate in his attempt to address a very real weakness in how our movement is perceived outside our own circle. Anyone with even the faintest grasp of American history can see how the excesses of American capitalism circa 1890 resulted in the expansion of state authority.

In my view, his attempt to allow faith communities a larger role in administering charity was, by and large, a good thing and was much more that the lip service that we social conservatives typically get from candidates and office holders.

I think his domestic agenda was brought to a screeching halt by 9/11 and the burden of fighting two wars and so we really don’t know what policies he had in mind when he was inaugurated or how those might have turned out.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

But we can judge that domestic policy initiatives that he did push after 9/11...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 10:11AM EDT (link)

It isn’t as if we saw no movement on domestic policy or that President Bush wasn’t pushing those policies from the WH.

Some of it was good, some was well intended, but ultimately much of it expanded the federal role instead of diminishing it. This, combined with the war fatigue, is what lost the congress.

I still think President Bush was a good man and overall a good President, but he certainly didn’t help the cause of conservatism by allowing it to be thought of as lacking compassion in its essence.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


I would largely agree with that

streiff (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 10:31AM EDT (link)

I will depart from a lot of the conservative critique of some of Bush’s actions because I don’t think they were an unalloyed evil.

The steel tariffs kept some US steel companies in business but more importantly it kept the US Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation from being in the hook for billions in pension benefits.

Personally, I think if the federal government is going to give money for elementary and secondary education it has a fiduciary responsibility to make sure that money is well spent. One thing NCLB has done is required school districts to report to parents on how well kids in individual schools are performing. (As to the critics of testing, if you can’t measure what is being taught I’d suggest you aren’t teaching anything.).

Just as we saw when his father’s administration was juxtaposed to the fraud that succeeded him, we see the value of integrity, character, and love of country in the Oval Office.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

 
 

I suggest that a grasp ...

skorrent1 (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 10:30AM EDT (link)

Of history would suggest that the “excesses” of the late 19th century were pretty mild compared to the government meddling that gave us the Great Depression and the Great Recession. Government expansion was more the result of the world-wide flirtation of liberal/intellectual/labor with the Marxist deceit than any real evaluation of the defects of “unbridled capitalism”. Give me Standard Oil/ ALCOA/ American Tobacco anytime over FDR/Obama.

I'd disagree

streiff (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 10:40AM EDT (link)

but be that as it may any assertion that our regulatory impulse didn’t originate with the excesses of American capitalism is exotic to say the least. Yelling “Marxist” may be amusing in a lot of places but it is hardly a substitute for reading.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

Thanks for the insult!

skorrent1 (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 11:22AM EDT (link)

I’m suggesting that the “excesses of American Capitalism” were evaluated by the intellectuals of the time with a Marxist perspective. That the labor union movement relied on a Marxist “labor vs capital” perspective. That the intrusion of government into the market was motivated by the liberal/progressive adoption of the Marxist “exploitation of labor” fallacy. If you continue to accept the “labor theory of value” hoax rather than the works of the Austrian school, then I think it is you who needs to do some reading!

I'm suggesting

streiff (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 11:38AM EDT (link)

that at that time Marxism wasn’t a very prominent political philosophy. That’s a fact, you can look it up.

What you are doing is moving a political philosophy about 20 years and a continent away from where it actually had an impact.

The US labor movement developed quite independently of Marx and was 30 years old when Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto. Eugene V Debs was involved in labor strikes before learning about Marx, which he did while in prison for leading a railroad strike.

If you want to continue to beclown yourself, feel free, but your lack of knowledge about Marxism and the American labor movement makes that inevitable.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

Talk about distortions!

skorrent1 (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 3:24PM EDT (link)

You referred to American capitalism in the 1890s. The UMW was formed in 1890. Debs led the Pullman Strike in 1894 and ran for President as a Socialist in 1900. And you would have us believe that socialism (Marxism) had no influence in the US until 20 years later? Who is “beclowning” himself?

 
 
 

Not all that exotic

neenergyobserver Monday, August 15th at 11:26AM EDT (link)

We need to remember that around 1890 we were coming off a deflationary cycle that had lasted since the Civil War. Prices (and costs) were starting to increase and most of the population had never experienced price increases. And mind you, the were relative to a completely hard currency. This is also the period when we were starting to see home-grown socialists, such as Eugene V. Debs.

Debs

streiff (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 11:39AM EDT (link)

was a union organizer before he was a socialist. He first learned about socialism while serving jail time for his role in the Pullman strikes.

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

 
 
 
 

In some ways? Sure

aesthete (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 12:51PM EDT (link)

In others? Not so much. Some regulation (and in particular, anti-trust and anti-monopoly legislation) was and is useful, but the extent to which “unbridled capitalism” ruined the nation is much exaggerated. Every statistic that attempted to measure standard of living shot up rapidly during the period between the Civil War and the Spanish-American war. Health, life expectancy, personal income, education — they all increased in a major way during that period, in a way that hasn’t been seen since. Obviously, that had as much to do with industrialization as it did with having a framework that supported free exchange, but this increase in the standard of living did nonetheless occur. I think it’s fair to say that at least a part of the zeitgeist of the times can be attributed to the shift from agricultural to urban settings, immigration, and residual tensions from the Civil War vis a vis blacks moving to the cities. Many unions, for example, put emphasis on their nativist or racist tendencies, rather than on their ability to garner the worker additional wages.

Also streiff, with respect to the discussion of Marxism upthread, I would agree that it was a marginal political philosophy in the early American labor movement, but other forms of socialism, anarchism, and syndicalism were strong influences on the movement.

“The United States symbolises the worst ideologies in the world: growth and freedom.”
-Pentti Linkola, writer and environmentalist

 
 

Have an urge to like Perry,

skorrent1 (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 10:04AM EDT (link)

But I’m anxious to find out more. Did state gov’t spending really double under Perry? If so, why? Did state debt grow? I think, I hope, he understands the difference between state and federal government objectives and priorities.

The campaign is young. We’ll learn.

rickperry.org can help answer some of that.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 10:14AM EDT (link)

nt

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

“We’d be much better off if We The People had desired small government enough to keep it.” acat


 
 

The Moral Component

TheSophist (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 10:37AM EDT (link)

What I particularly liked about Perry’s address was the hint — albeit, only a hint — towards establishing the moral component of conservatism.

“As Americans, we don’t see the role of government as guaranteeing outcomes, but allowing free men and women to flourish based on their own vision, their hard work and their personal responsibility.”

Mark Steyn often hammers this point: big government isn’t simply a fiscal matter, but a moral one. Infantilizing citizens into permanent adolescents debauches not just the economy, but the people themselves. Transforming grown men and women, independent actors, into dependents of the elite is immoral. It is tyranny.

And the end of that road is London Burning.

I hope that Perry — and the Conservative Movement — keeps bringing this point out and expanding on it. We need to educate our fellow citizens that they are freeborn citizens first and foremost, and the issue of government entitlements is way beyond just dollars and cents.

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.” – Ronald Reagan

John Adams said it best

pilgrim (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 6:32PM EDT (link)

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
John Adams

I most definitely hope Rick Perry keeps bringing this point out.


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Dude, I think Perry's it.

jaykali (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 10:54AM EDT (link)

The field is set, Romney is the ‘backup’ choice for a lot of people and maybe a moderate favorite in a few ‘independent’ leading states but Perry appeals to a lot of voting blocks within the Republican party. I would say maybe there’s some vote splitting between Bachmann & Perry that could cause issues for Perry perhaps – that is something that could drag the fight out. It will be interesting to see if Bachmann could hold on early by winning Iowa and picking up some steam. If she can’t win Iowa this thing is over. I think the debates are probably pretty important, if Perry does well in the debates this thing could be over quick. Last time around there was not a Republican candidate that everyone knew was ‘the guy’ and so we went with the ‘backup’ option in McCain. This time around that would have been Mitt I think but then Rick Perry jumped in. I see him as the ‘Bush’-type of guy this time around that will pick up steam very quickly if he doesn’t mess it up. I will readily admit I don’t know the specifics of his resume but the highlights are very attractive for debates:
+Southern governor of a big state (executive experience in style)
+Big-time southern christian
+Texas jobs resume is very good, stealing jobs
+Texas is big on energy, so nice energy resume
+Tea Party-friendly (for now)
+Good attack dog, good speaker (we’ll see how he fares in national debates)
+Not Romney
+Establishment-friendly, the so-called talking heads (who I like btw) in your Steve Hayes, Bill Krystol’s, Krauthammers, will all sing his praises
+Electable-looking – the same presidential vibe Romney has without all the hangups

 

Great Article

Goldwater_Conservative (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 11:57AM EDT (link)

this sums up the past 10 years like no other. We are now paying for compassionate conservatisim.

I Agree - Great Article

Locke (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 3:52PM EDT (link)

Best thing I’ve read lately. A pleasure to read.

Thank you.

 
 

And the spin begins.

phenry Monday, August 15th at 1:48PM EDT (link)

Tell me, exactly how is Perry’s $200 million slush fund any different from Obama’s stimulus slush fund? Just because it went to CEO’s instead of labor unions? And what about the TTC and the vaccines? Perry is as big government as they come. If RedState jumps on this bandwagon, it better stop claiming to be pro small government and free markets. The only difference between Perry and Obama is that he would spend taxpayer money on Republican priorities (CEO’s, wars) instead of Dem priorities. And I don’t think the country is ready for more Bush-era statism.

Why are you here?

gekster (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 2:01PM EDT (link)

You would feel more at home at HuffPo.

On the reccomended Diaries list, read this one.
Seventeen (17) things that critics are saying about Rick Perry
After you read that, then come back and comment.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

Heh, I was saying that Redstate would get slammed with trolls

izoneguy (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 2:23PM EDT (link)

Here they come!!!

Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged

 

More on Perry's trading of favors.

phenry Tuesday, August 16th at 1:52PM EDT (link)

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-0816-perry-donors-20110816,0,6024689,full.story

Are you for big government or small government? Do you want businesses to succeed or fail based on whether they have friends in power? Is that really what RedState stands for?

You don't have to vote for him if you don't want to. nt

gekster (Diary) Tuesday, August 16th at 2:04PM EDT (link)

nt

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

 
 
 
 

Perry sounds just like George Bush,

smitch61 Monday, August 15th at 2:08PM EDT (link)

The sound of his voice anyway, when your in the kitchen and the TV is in the living room, my goodness I had to come out to take a look at the TV…. brought me down a bit actually.

So you would rather hear Obama's voice until 2016?

izoneguy (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 2:22PM EDT (link)

N/T

Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged

Of course not...

smitch61 Monday, August 15th at 3:10PM EDT (link)

Anybody but Obama.

 
 

No. Bush sounds like Perry and that was no accident.

LoneStarSon (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 4:38PM EDT (link)

When Bush decided to jump into Texas politics, he found one of the most likeable, successful people and that was Rick Perry. One of the reasons Bush stumbled on his words and sounded less than educated at times is he was not a native Texan. Notice how easily Perry speaks and does not utter the words ‘uh’ or ‘um’. Notice how he does not sound like an ignorant redneck. It’s not an act. He is a native Texan and we are not as ignorant as those from other areas wish we were.

“Texas will again lift it’s head and stand among the nations. It ought to do so, for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages.” – Sam Houston

 
 

would it be fair to say this?

c16rocksteady Monday, August 15th at 5:46PM EDT (link)

Perry is somewhere to the right of GHWB regarding taxes and somewhere to the left of GWB on illegal immigration issues.

No.

LoneStarSon (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 6:04PM EDT (link)

Perry is labeled as being weak on illegal immigration for a couple of reasons. One is he once said building the border fence was idiotic . Well, his reasoning was that if you build a 40 foot wall, 42 foot ladders will soon be on the market. In other words, there needed to be a different way to go about it. We need to secure our borders, but we also need to enforce them with manpower and by making life here uncomfortable.

Perry also signed into law a bill that gave illegal immigrants the right to in-state tuition rates. This was amended in 2005 and now they must be on the path to citizenship to enjoy the rates.

There really is only so much we can do to enforce the border on a state level. Bush was never strong on that point and so it has had to be put on a back burner.

“Texas will again lift it’s head and stand among the nations. It ought to do so, for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages.” – Sam Houston

why then sign a bad bill?

c16rocksteady Monday, August 15th at 6:24PM EDT (link)

why sign a bad bill into law if you dont belive in the underlying issue. the idea of passing it to amend it seems all to familiar.

Sometimes people make mistakes.

LoneStarSon (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 6:45PM EDT (link)

No candidate is perfect, and unless Christ decides to return and run, that will always be the case. I can understand Perry’s original thinking. The children are living here and did not have a choice about that. However, to reward them was the wrong decision.

The original bill was signed during Perry’s first year as Governor. He has since grown into a very good Governor. Although, I have not always agreed with him, and busted his chops before, I do believe he would make a very good, if not great, President.

“Texas will again lift it’s head and stand among the nations. It ought to do so, for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages.” – Sam Houston

 
 
 
 

mistakes.

c16rocksteady Monday, August 15th at 6:56PM EDT (link)

I will grant that people make mistakes. This doesnt seem to be an insignificant mistake. This all sounds to me like a mini version of the disaster that we all know and love known as the DREAM Act.

It was a mistake made 10 years ago...

LoneStarSon (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 8:36PM EDT (link)

and rectified 6 years ago.

“Texas will again lift it’s head and stand among the nations. It ought to do so, for no country upon the globe can compare with it in natural advantages.” – Sam Houston

 
 

One specific contrast that stands out

Menlo (Diary) Monday, August 15th at 7:57PM EDT (link)

Bush signed the federal light bulb ban, but Perry signed a state bill into law that will allow their manufacture and sale within the state.

“The ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -Felix Frankfurter

 

I love Redstate, and really rely on you guys to point me in the right direction, but

Praying (Diary) Thursday, August 18th at 7:23PM EDT (link)

So far the only one who has raised some of the concerns I have with Perry is phenry, and you guys attacked him for it.

Look, I get it that there is not a perfect candidate. But does the country really need another big government, Bilderberger globalist? I have not made up my mind who to support, but please, let this be a forum for discussion – good, bad, beautiful, ugly, on ALL the candidates.

Like many here, I will vote for a dead slug over Obama in the general election. No questions there. But there is a lot about Perry that concerns me at this time – his Bilderberg ties, his re-start of the “NAFTA superhighway” (to connect Mexico, the USA, and Canada in to one nice big North American Union?), his requirement that all 12 and older girls to be vaccinated against HPV (although I understand he’s backing off that now…).

All the candidates have a few warts – and these are discussed openly and honestly on Redstate. Which is how it should be. And why I love this site – it gives me the information I need to make my own well informed decision. So lets have an honest discussion about Perry. Are we so used to these big government globalists (like the Bushes – don’t forget, George H. W. gave us Agenda 21 and all that is coming to fruition now, as my inlaws who have a small family farm can attest) that alarm bells aren’t going off???

And no, I am NOT a Paulbot – Ron Paul has some good ideas about domestic issues (like doing away with the Fed) but his foreign policy ideas are idiotic, to say the least. OK, thanks. Glad I got that off my chest. Redstate was starting to sound like a teenage girl’s diary entries about her latest guy crush.

Thanks, and keep up the good work.

No!!!11!1!!1!1! The Bilderbergers are coming

Perry was invited to a build-a-burger meating to....

gekster (Diary) Thursday, August 18th at 7:41PM EDT (link)

give a speach on the relationship between state and federal government.
Nothig more, nothing less.
It is a non-starter.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”