GOP Must Use Political Victories to Oppose Obama’s Stimulus in its Entirety


Pass the bill never!

The Democrats have provided Republicans with a historic opportunity to go on offense against Keynesian stimulus, and apply jujitsu against the Democrat 2012 playbook – Mediscare tactics.  They shouldn’t blow it.

Last night, Democrats got wiped out in two special elections; losing by 22% in Nevada CD-2 and by 8% in a New York district that hasn’t voted Republican since 1922.  These victories were buoyed by Obama’s record disapproval ratings across every demographic, most notably, whites and independents.

While there have been copious pages of commentary published in an attempt to analyze the source of the GOP’s success, it is clear which tactic was unsuccessful: Mediscare (are you watching, Mitt Romney?).  Both Democrat candidates attacked their opponents incessantly as proverbial killers of Medicare and Social Security.  Although this pathetic line of attack is 50 years old, it was slated to serve as the impetus for Democrats’ 2012 campaign strategy.  Well, their only plan to win in 2012 failed miserably, providing Republicans with a chance to launch a counterattack.

Last week, Obama announced Stimulus 2.0, an effort to double down on every policy that has failed to engender economic growth, and in most cases, mitigated recovery.  The stimulus plan is essentially comprised of three components; $140 billion of traditional Keynesian pork spending, $49 billion for extensions of unemployment benefits, and roughly $250 billion in Keynesian-light temporary tax cuts, most prominently, the payroll tax cut.  Obama plans to fund these immediate expenditures with massive tax hikes that will provide revenue over a ten-year budget frame.

It is quite evident that Republicans will oppose the spending components of the stimulus bill (I hope I’m not being too charitable); however, it is the no-growth “tax cuts” and unemployment components that should concern us.  Republican leaders have expressed tepid opposition to the stimulus in its entirety, while even offering some flexibility towards a piecemeal passage of the plan.

These Republicans are having a difficult time categorically rejecting the payroll tax cut and extension of unemployment benefits on their merits.  Instead, they have complained about the cost of those initiatives, and the fact that Obama plans to pay for them with tax hikes.  The current dismal political climate for Democrats, along with last night’s electoral victories, should give Republicans the courage to stand on bold colors – and completely reject all provisions of Obama’s stimulus plan, even if they find spending offsets.

Unemployment benefits are a no-brainer.  The evidence is incontrovertibly clear that the record 99 weeks of incentivizing unemployment has prolonged the jobs recovery.  If we extend those benefits for another year, they will be enshrined as a permanent entitlement program and will preclude any significant job growth indefinitely.  We have spent over $300 billion on unemployment since Obama took office.  Unemployment welfare is rapidly becoming the fourth largest entitlement program.  We are already suffering from a lack of GOP courage to deal with the big three.  Why create a fourth permanent $100 billion+ entitlement, especially when welfare spending has perpetuated, not alleviated,  record poverty.

Republicans must also oppose the proposed payroll tax cuts as well.  As appealing as such a large tax cut is for many Republicans, support for such a plan would deny them the opportunity for some jujitsu on Mediscare.  They need to point out that payroll taxes are different from all other forms of taxation.  Payroll taxes supposedly single-handedly fund Social Security, yet Obama plans to cut 36% of its revenue source with this stimulus bill, even though SS already faces a $50 billion shortfall.

Republicans must show how it is the Democrats who are treating Social Security like a Ponzi scheme by indiscriminately marauding it, while paying out the shortfall with deficit spending.  They must call out Obama for his duplicity on Social Security, by showing how he refuses to allow us to keep our payroll taxes in secure personal accounts, but has not qualms about completely canceling them year after year.  Last night’s elections show that Americans no longer believe that Republicans will take their Social Security.  It’s time for Republicans to pin the tail on the donkey.

At present, Obama and the Democrats are on the ropes.  They have incurred historic electoral losses; they are suffering from incorrigible disapproval amongst a broad section of the electorate, and to make matters worse, Obama is embroiled in Solargate – a direct consequence of his first stimulus.  And for you Republican consultants, who live and die by issue polling, the public opposes the no-jobs bill.  Now is not the time to go wobbly on Stimulus 2.0.

Unfortunately, Republicans have a penchant for invigorating Obama when he is on the ropes.  After suffering a chastening defeat last November, Republicans gratuitously bailed out Obama with passage of START, repeal of DADT, reauthorization of ethanol and green handouts, and extension of unemployment benefits.  Then they agreed to negotiate a 2011 budget deal – one that cut outlays by a laughable $352 million –with a party that hadn’t passed a budget for two years.  Yesterday, Republicans acceded to Democrat tantrums over cutting wasteful transportation – and agreed to pass yet another short-term extension of surface and air transportation funding (by voice vote), without the much-needed cuts.  Later this month, Republicans will offer a Continuing Resolution providing appropriations for FY 2012 that are drastically higher than those of their own budget.

This is a time for Republican leaders to redeem themselves.  They have some good plans that include long-term tax cuts, regulation reform, and energy production.  They should throw in litigation reform and welfare reform as well.  They already have their own plan.  Why adopt Obama’s stimulus?  This question is especially salient now, as they have an opportunity to kill Mediscare while it’s on the run.  Just ask Bob Turner.


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RINO's Will Not Let Democrats Lose Permanently

Ausonius (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 3:03PM EDT (link)

I the Dems can be killed as a force for decades, like the Dems nearly did to the Republicans after 1932. then we need to turn them into the Whigs. MAObama is their Hoover: and fortunately, everything BIG BRObama will do in the next year because of his radical ideology, SHOULD make them 21st century Whigs, i.e. extinct.

However…

“Unfortunately, Republicans have a penchant for invigorating Obama when he is on the ropes.”

The quote is too true! Because of “scratch-my-back-tit-for-tat” politics Republicans think they need to play nicely and have a mercy call when the game is a blow-out.

Somebody explain to me: WHY SHOULD LIBERALISM SURVIVE?

If we can deliver a death-blow by invigorating the economy through conservative policies after 2012, then we must do so.

Ausonius: 310-395 A.D. Teacher, Poet, Consul, General, Farmer.

Personal Tutor to the future St. Paulinus of Nola and to young Gratian, heir to the throne during the turbulent final years of the Western Roman Empire. When his former student Gratian was assassinated, Ausonius threw up his hands and retired to his farm in Gaul. Rome was captured by barbarians 14 years after his death.

Cato@rock.com

AND…Know Your Czars…Before They Hit BIG BRObama’s Unemployment Line in November: http://www.czarcards.us/

 

Stop Fearing Obama

lansing Wednesday, September 14th at 3:12PM EDT (link)

The jobs bill is already a political loser, with a majority of Americans saying it won’t help unemployment. The politically popular position now would be for the GOP to kill it. It’s a no brainer.

It also adds to the narrative that Obama is impotent and can’t lead. The Republicans in the House should propose their own jobs bill and leave it at that. Not one Republican will lose their job over not passing Obama’s ridiculous giveaway to the Unions that will only raise our taxes.

 

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R, TX) has a real, two page, American Jobs Act

ColdWarrior (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 3:46PM EDT (link)

It simply eliminates the corporate income tax and Alternative Minimum Tax.

http://blog.heritage.org/2011/09/14/conservative-nabs-naming-rights-to-american-jobs-act-after-obama-delay/

Thank you.

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I think the House should get right on passing that new Jobs Act. nt

Jim Tomasik (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 3:57PM EDT (link)

Pass it today so we’ll have more jobs tomorrow just like Obama wants.

 
 

You have to ask yourself how many more

jtlfromfredmd Wednesday, September 14th at 3:54PM EDT (link)

silver platters are going to be handed to Republicans in the near future. They would be absolute fools to allow the momentum to just slip away at this historic time. If they meekly let these times pass without taking full advantage of what is in front of them then they deserve the full brunt of our scorn. Wake up Republicans and grow some courage!

We need to cherry pick this before we flush it.

snowshooze (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 4:48PM EDT (link)

But absolutely, our guys have to know when to just go for the kill.
Democrats do not hesitate. We aren’t supposed to be the party on Mr. Nice guy.
I much prefer the party of NO…
If there is a shred of good in this bill, find it and use it.

 
 

Reid says he can't pass it. Boehner says he "wants to work with the President"

usdebateboard Wednesday, September 14th at 4:51PM EDT (link)

Who’s the more adept political pragmatist?

 

What the GOP is best at...

JimmyGee (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 4:52PM EDT (link)

Is stealing defeat from the jaws of victory. I don’t see that changing, like, well, ever.

 

Bob Turner wants to defeat Obama, John Boehner wants to resuscitate him

usdebateboard Wednesday, September 14th at 4:54PM EDT (link)

Who seems to speak more for Americans at this particular time?

 

Economics is an Art & Science

mcclelland Wednesday, September 14th at 5:20PM EDT (link)

If both sides got picked 10 top economists and put them in a room, they would come up with a short term and long term solution. To think this is a problem without a solution is just wrong. It could be spending and tax cuts or whatever, but there is a formula that the smartest could agree with.

Ah...hate to burst your bubble....

JimmyGee (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 6:06PM EDT (link)

Currently we have in the White House, according to the MSM:
1. The “smartest man in the room” (though they never say which room) President Obummer.
2. An administration that is just full of “academia” from the most prestigious universities in the nation.
We still have 9+% unemployment, and if you look at the people that have stopped looking for work, it is closer to 20%. We have had ZERO job growth. Our credit rating has been downgraded for the first time in the history of this country.
Time and time again, we get a one word quote from the White House Brain Trust…”unexpectedly.” As in jobless claims unexpectedly went up this month, or, job growth was unexpectedly zero.
When Ronald Reagan took over from Jimmy “I am no longer the worse president ever” Carter, it took about a year to start seeing signs of improvement. We have been waiting almost three years now to see any improvement, and all we get is downturns, down grades…and speeches…blah, blah, blah.
The problem is NOT economists! The problem is total lack of LEADERSHIP! The common denominator it our Dear Leader, BHO! He is the single biggest impediment to this economy!
OBummer is instituted 4200 regulations for a total of 1.75 Trillion annually. Boehner asked O’Bummer for any regulations that cost more than 1 Billion dollars and according to Obummer himself, there are 216.
That is the problem! Not the number of economists. It is Obummer and his socialist, anti-business ideology!
Sometimes it is not the “smartest,” sometimes it is the one that can LEAD and has some common sense. Frankly, “Joe the plumber” could do a better job than Obummer.

The problem does include economists

YnotNOW (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 7:36PM EDT (link)

who are so politically biased that they cling to Keynsian theory in spite of the facts. Applies to economists just like politicians:

“Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest” (apologies to Simon and Garfinkel).

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

Reagan had a joke about economists

Finrod (Diary) Thursday, September 15th at 11:01AM EDT (link)

A man was going to a costume party but didn’t have a costume, so he put egg on his face and went as a liberal economist.

PETA and the ASPCA are pure evil. See here and here.

 
 
 
 

Be the party of h€ll NO!

texasmom2012 Wednesday, September 14th at 5:42PM EDT (link)

Seriously, no new porkulous spending. Our budget is out of control in record deficits and Obama wants to raise taxes but not to close budget gap… He wants even more dollars to burn. Investment to Obama means to spend recklessly on boondoggles that enrich unions and special interests like the green lobby at the expense of the hard working American taxpayer…

Jobs bill? We will get the bill...but not the jobs...nt

snowshooze (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 5:49PM EDT (link)
 

Truth!

rickey5825 Wednesday, September 14th at 5:57PM EDT (link)

Basically what Mr.Horowitz is saying is the Republicans need to tell the American people the unvarnished truth about Social Security, Medicare,and Medicaid!They are broken or soon will be and need to be fixed!We have some tough choices to make and the Democrats are unwilling to make them.They,in fact,seem able only to spend ever more money on failed and often redundant programs.But,if we love our children,grandchildren,and our great grandchildren,WE need to act,and act now to fix it!Yes Republicans share the blame for our current situation,but we are also the only party putting forth VIABLE ideas that actually solve the problems and not exacerbate them.Our opportunity is now and we must take it!Our children and grandchildren will thank us for it!

Agree, but do we have the spokesperson to sell it?

YnotNOW (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 7:32PM EDT (link)

Most Republicans will run from presenting the unvarnished truth, because the people don’t want to hear it. Keep their heads in the sand and yell “la-la-la-la.” And anyone who wakes them from their blissful slumber (sorry for mixed metaphors) will receive their ire.

I agree that we must be “responsible” and tell the public about necessary reform of SS, Medicare, etc. But we also must have the education plan in place to make it stick!

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 
 

I disagree. Don't act reflexively.

renl57 Wednesday, September 14th at 6:24PM EDT (link)

Divide and conquer is always a good strategy.

Obama put stuff into this bill that he knew would sound moderate, plus lots of other stuff that he knew is far to the left to benefit his base. He’s daring the GOP to vote the whole package down so that he can run against the “do-nothing GOP House” in 2012, and give his base a reason to work for his re-election and against the GOP for obstructing their handouts.

What the GOP should do, is vote for only the most moderate parts of the package, those parts that Obama’s far-left base is least excited about. And pointedly and deliberately refuse to vote for those parts that would excite Obama’s base. IOW, cherry-pick Obama’s proposals to create a modified bill that is as far to the center (or even center-right) as possible.

Then let’s see what Obama does with that bill, once it’s presented to him. Most likely his base will be furious with him that he sold them down the river again.

The "moderate" part of the Stimulus

YnotNOW (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 7:29PM EDT (link)

is just that – liberal-lite.
Some spending increases. Extending unemployment and payroll tax holiday.
Things that make good sound-bites, but are TERRIBLE economic policy, because the Government must borrow and take money OUT of the productive economy to put back into the less-productive uses here.

So even this portion will be further drag on any economic recovery.
Sadly, Republicans will do it anyway. Sigh….

YnotNOW
If not me, who? If not now, when?

 
 

Speaking of Stimulus...

levinfan90 Wednesday, September 14th at 6:40PM EDT (link)

Rick Perry has accepted over $17 billion of it over the last few years. While condemning it at the same time. No wonder every single new job created in Texas since 2008 has been a government job.

“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.”-Winston Churchill

Let me help you out, since you seam out of your league.

gekster (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 7:09PM EDT (link)

from:
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-presidential-election/love-hate-thing-stimulus-money/

excerpt.:
But the reality of Perry’s relationship with fed-stim is complicated. Through the second quarter of this year, Texas has used $17.4 billion in federal stimulus money — including $8 billion of the one-time dollars to fund state expenses that recur over and over. In fact, Texas used the federal stimulus to balance its last two budgets.

It is true, as presidential candidate Perry says, that the state turned down some of the money from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 because it had strings attached. Texas didn’t apply for education grants that came with conditions, and the governor famously refused $556 million in federal stimulus funds for the state’s unemployment insurance program, saying the conditions that came along with the cash would increase the long-term costs of the program.

See how it’s done, homer.

and for further help for you,
I hate Perry. :) I hate Perry :)
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I hate Perry. :) I hate Perry :)

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

My name's not Homer...

levinfan90 Wednesday, September 14th at 7:21PM EDT (link)

lol I ‘seam’ out of my league? Homer? Once again, you resort to mocking me when your desperate defenses of Governor Gardasil are too weak to counter legitimate criticisms. I’m not going to insult your education or intellect based on your spelling, like most people would, because I think it would be cruel to go after someone in Perry’s inevitably declining fan base, especially after Monday’s debate. I’m not heartless. I know Perry fans have feelings too. And you should read what you just wrote. You just basically admitted that OBAMA balanced Perry’s budget…twice. You just can’t make this stuff up.

“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.”-Winston Churchill

Ok, I'm sorry for insulting homer.

gekster (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 7:29PM EDT (link)

But if you are going to do a hit piece, at least do it right.
As far as spelling, who cares. You obviously understood what I said.

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

Ooo that was subtle

levinfan90 Wednesday, September 14th at 7:42PM EDT (link)

lol Wow, you just can’t help yourself. Is it possible for you to comment without making some kind of mocking remark or ad-hominem or not-so-subtle jab on me or anyone who isn’t mesmerized by Perry? And you didn’t prove me wrong on anything I said. In fact, you reiterated what I said, and also admitted that Obama has balanced Perry’s budgets, twice.

“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.”-Winston Churchill

Yes, you are right, Perry EEEEEVVIIIIIL.

gekster (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 7:56PM EDT (link)

We should string him up by his ears,
tar and feather him,
draw and quarter him,
tape his eyes open with a picture of Nancy Pelose in front of his face,
the one before botox,
and then we start getting meen.

(if you would just come out and say that, then we might get what you want to tell us).

They say Republicans are for the rich, Democrats are for the poor.
If they need more voters,
then they have to make more of who they are for.

We are there in the various Tea Party groups, leaderless, but not rudderless.
We steer always toward the Constitutional principles this nation was founded upon.
Erick Brockway

I’ve gone from
“Hope and Change” to
“Hopeless and Changeless”

ha

levinfan90 Wednesday, September 14th at 8:22PM EDT (link)

Your words, not mine. Once again, you prove Perry’s soon-to-be fatal weakness: his record.

“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.”-Winston Churchill

You are the proof of your own sigline.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 8:27PM EDT (link)

Have a great evening.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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Get a backbone!

drfredc Wednesday, September 14th at 7:07PM EDT (link)

It’s not entirely accurate to say it’s time for the Republicans to get a backbone and take it to the Democrats as they are tangled on the ropes thru their own ineptitude. Rather, it’s time for the GOP LOSERship to get a spine and join ranks with the conservatives and tea partiers to take it direction to the Dems.

The payroll tax cut is no more than a bill to defund Social Security and make it go broke sooner than later. Don’t miss the chance to toss in how Obamacare does the same to defunding Medicare. Where do these money’s end up might be a question to pose and answer… These entitlement cuts move money from seniors into funding for Blue Pensions, Blue Jobs and Green regulations with a side order of handouts to lawyers to keep them all shoveling money back into Democrat election coffers.

The GOP needs to make it clear they stand for the Red (private sector), White (Seniors), and Blue (competitive union jobs), not for more Blue Green handouts by our nation’s first Blue Green President and his followers.

Always, Fred C

 

I'm okay with finding spending cuts to "offset" tax cuts

Raven (Diary) Wednesday, September 14th at 8:21PM EDT (link)

Cutting taxes And spending at a single go? I like that idea.

Raising other taxes to cut FICA taxes? Not so much. Raising Any taxes for Any reason right now, I’m not likely to support.

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

 

Half a Trillion in Govt Spending

paulplantowin Thursday, September 15th at 7:48AM EDT (link)

On a jobs bill is a stimulus plan! The last stimulus plan failed so spectacularly that Pelosi outlawed the word.
Boehner needs outside pressure to keep his knees from buckling.
We the people need to put that pressure on until we get a Speaker with a little confidence!
“Unfortunately, Republicans have a penchant for invigorating Obama when he is on the ropes.”
Boehner is Speaker of the Obama CPR team.
Pressure now – get rid of Boehner as Speaker asap

Boehner gave BHO the rope to hang himself

Freedoms Truth (Diary) Thursday, September 15th at 12:49PM EDT (link)

By not immediately attacking Obama’s plan, Boehner is now watching it fall apart on its own. Democrats dont want to vote for tax increases, so paying for the bill is DOA. Then the supercommittee has to look at it.

Reid wont take it up for another 4 weeks. The longer this is out there, the more rotten it looks. We had stimulus, more money, bailouts for educators a year ago. Did it matter? Nope.

The GOP do have to have a response, and we need to keep hammering that we have a better plan.

Cain’s 9-9-9 plan is a good idea, for example. Keep pushing the better ideas and Obama looks pathetic and weak. Obama’s proposals will not create jobs, in particular in the private sector, its just more big govt spending.

 
 

GOP needs to be clever.

skorrent1 (Diary) Thursday, September 15th at 10:35AM EDT (link)

When W “cut taxes” he cut income tax rates. When the Dems “cut taxes” they reduce payroll taxes. Therefore, the Dems are conceding that payroll taxes are just TAXES, not some special, untouchable, insurance premium.

OK! So the GOP needs to propose “tax reform” of both the income tax and the payroll tax. Reform the income tax to make it flatter and to reward business expansion. Reform the payroll tax to make room for personal savings and retirement accounts (for the younguns). The Dems have already shown their willingness to rely on general revenue (or borrowing) to fund SocSec. They shouldn’t object (but they will) to using general revenue to fund the transition to personal retirement accounts.

 

Tax Hikes in any shape or form are DOA

Freedoms Truth (Diary) Thursday, September 15th at 12:42PM EDT (link)

The Republicans are far smarter to NOT be the ‘party of no’ but to be the party of better ideas that will actually create jobs.

Allowing the payroll tax cuts is fine, pay for them with spending cuts. State that any spending has to be rolled into the FY2012 plan and supercommitte so strip it all out to be dealt with later.

Insist that nothing can be done without immediate relief by REPEALING OBAMACARE TAX INCREASES. And defer the mandates by 5 years.

Pass – AGAIN – drilling in ANWR, offshore. Pass AGAIN obamacare repeal and an 18 month moratorium on new regulations, etc.

Obama is johnny-one-note with his ‘pass this failed bill’.