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Attrition Through Enforcement Immigration Policy Works in Alabama

Proponents of illegal immigration and open borders are constantly propagating a straw-man argument for amnesty that offers false policy choices.  They contend that “we cannot possibly send back the illegals without physically deporting every one of them, and therefore, we are forced to grant them amnesty, in addition to a ‘pathway to citizenship.’  Those with some sense of sanity have always realized that the source of the problem is our incentivizing of illegal behavior, and that a concerted effort to enforce the laws would drain the illegal population through “attrition by enforcement.”

Now Alabama is showing the rest of the country how we can solve the problem simply by enforcing the laws on the books, or, more accurately, performing the job that the federal government refuses to do.

Last Wednesday, federal district court Judge Sharon Blackburn refused the Obama administration’s request to issue an injunction on the major provisions of Alabama’s new immigration law (H.B. 56).  Consequently, state and local police are authorized to check the immigration status of those already apprehended for breaking a law or those caught driving without a license.  In addition to upholding the “Arizona SB 1070 provision,” Judge Blackburn upheld the provision which requires every public school in Alabama to determine if an enrolling student was born outside the United States or is a child of an illegal alien.

Well, it didn’t take long for the illegals to do the jobs that the Feds refuse to do; namely, self-deportation.  Fox News is reporting that many illegals are getting the message that it is a new day for the rule of law in Alabama:

Hispanic students have started vanishing from Alabama public schools in the wake of a court ruling that upheld the state’s tough new law cracking down on illegal immigration.

Education officials say scores of immigrant families have withdrawn their children from classes or kept them home this week, afraid that sending the kids to school would draw attention from authorities.

There are no precise statewide numbers. But several districts with large immigrant enrollments — from small towns to large urban districts — reported a sudden exodus of children of Hispanic parents, some of whom told officials they planned to leave the state to avoid trouble with the law, which requires schools to check students’ immigration status. (emphasis added)

Yes – indeed people vote with their feet.  They did the same thing in Arizona.  Even though SB 1070 was never implemented, roughly 100,000 illegals left the state.  The bottom line is that when they are not collecting $4.2 billion in refundable tax handouts, receiving some form of welfare on behalf of their American-born children, or obtaining employment, they will leave.

In that sense, even Obama has demonstrated attrition through the removal of incentives.  He has perpetuated joblessness and stagnation, engendering a sharp decline in illegal migration (CRS report p.3).  Not surprisingly, Texas, which has experienced an economic boom, is the only state with a growing population of illegals.  200,000 more illegals have invaded the Lone Star State from 2007-2009.  Now, if only we could actually remove the magnet without destroying our economy, we would solve the illegal problem without mass deportation or amnesty – or even worse, a pathway to citizenship.  In other words, treating illegals as illegal actually works.

COMMENTS

  • ribeye

    And that’s a big reason why I get so angry at Republican politicians that undermine with “goodies” in order to chase illegal voters that can’t vote anyway.

    It is an MSM fantasy that legal , registered Latino voters will support Republicans if they’re soft on illegal immigration.

    Ask John McCain how well he did with Latino voters despite authoring an Amnesty bill that would have legalized over 20 million illegal aliens.

    Illegal aliens will leave en masse if you cut off the freebies and start having REAL workplace enforcement.

    • lineholder

      emotional responses into context when they say legal immigrants support being soft on illegal immigration issues.

      You know, I’d love to actually see a national poll on this subject. I think the reason one hasn’t been produced is that the results have the potential to destroy this narrative that the MSM uses.

      All I’ve got is anecdotal from legal immigrants. They’d rather see rule of law enforced. Some of their reasoning may be economic, especially in inner city areas, but the ones I’ve talked to personally express the sentiment that due to the fact that corruption and lawlessness was high where they came from, they don’t want to see that happen here.

      • ribeye

        Liberals want the GOP to buy into this idea that they can win over Latino voters through policies like Amnesty because Democrats want a brand new, 20 million voter impoverished ethnic bloc they can own like African-Americans.

        It’s a rope-a-dope strategy that unfortunately many Republicans buy into. Reagan basically gave a blanket amnesty to everyone that was supposed to be the “last” one, and you see how many problems that solved and how it permanently captured the Latino vote.(sarc off)

        Border security is politically popular, Republicans would get FAR more mileage getting tough on illegal immigration and winning over blue collar voters in places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan then they will the La Raza crowd.

        How about bringing up Obama’s support for drivers’ licenses for illegal aliens? That nonsense won’t even fly in places like California, why are Republicans so timid on this issue?

        • lineholder

          With the MSM as a mouthpiece and primary source of so-called “news”, if Republicans did begin to stand up for border security and in favor of rule of law, they’d get pummeled and demonized. It’s how the entire “controlling the narrative” scheme has dictated our society for years on end now. Within that context, I’d say Republicans don’t take a strong stand out of elements of fear and some degree of cowardice.

          As to the drivers’ license issue, my impression has been that this is a state-to-state issue. I may be wrong about that, but I remember reading an article about one of the NW states providing for legal driver’s licenses for illegal aliens. When the federal government doesn’t support enforcing the law, the states just have to work the reality handed to them.

          Also, I’m not sure how strong support for enforcement might be in groups of moderates and Independents. So this is probably a factor as well.

      • ice2

        Here are a few legal defs.

        High crimes and misdemeanors is a phrase from Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution: “The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”
        “High” in the legal parlance of the 18th century means “against the State”. A high crime is one which seeks the overthrow of the country, which gives aid or comfort to its enemies, or which injures the country to the profit of an individual or group. In democracies and similar societies it also includes crimes which attempt to alter the outcome of elections.
        An alien who is present in a country (which is foreign to him/her) unlawfully or without the country’s authorization is known as an illegal alien of that country.[2] An illegal alien commonly refers to a foreign national who resides in another country unlawfully, either by entering that country at a place other than a designated port-of-entry or as result of the expiration of a non-immigrant visa. An enemy alien is an alien who is a national of an enemy country.
        Malfeasance the performance by a public official of an act that is legally unjustified, harmful, or contrary to law; wrongdoing (used especially of an act in violation of a public trust).
        Nonfeasance is to ignore and take no indicated action – neglect. Misfeasance is to take inappropriate action or give intentionally incorrect advice. Malfeasance is hostile, aggressive action taken to injure the client’s interests.
        Example: A company hires a catering company to provide drinks and food for a retirement party. If the catering company doesn’t show up, it’s considered nonfeasance. If the catering company shows up but only provides drinks (and not the food, which was also paid for), it’s considered misfeasance. If the catering company accepts a bribe from its client’s competitor to undercook the meat, thereby giving those present food poisoning, it’s considered malfeasance.
        I hope this clears up a few issues!

      • kenchely

        While it would make economic sense for legal Hispanic immigrants to oppose illegal immigration, their predominant response is an emotional one: “The people trying to stop illegal immigration are doing so because they hate Hispanic people, so they hate me, too. I’ll vote against them.”

        There’s another reason. Often a legal resident in the US has relatives in Mexico who want to come to the US, but can’t get the very hard-to-get immigration visa. The only way they can be reunited with their families without going back to Mexico is for their families to find a “coyote” willing to get them into the US illegally (for a tidy profit, of course).

        The moving force for all this is the Hispanic community leaders. More Hispanics in the community is more power for their leaders. That power is its own reward for some; for others, it’s a lever to money. The only places where you’ll find GOP strength among Hispanics are where most Hispanics are established in the community already and are not dependent on government bennies.

        That’s why there are Hispanic Republican congressmen in Texas and Florida and has been one in New Mexico (the father of the present district’s Democratic congressman), and New Mexico has a Hispanic Republican governor. In those places, the leaders are local business and professional people, not “community organizers”.

      • kenchely

        While it would make economic sense for legal Hispanic immigrants to oppose illegal immigration, their predominant response is an emotional one: “The people trying to stop illegal immigration are doing so because they hate Hispanic people, so they hate me, too. I’ll vote against them.”

        There’s another reason. Often a legal resident in the US has relatives in Mexico who want to come to the US, but can’t get the very hard-to-get immigration visa. The only way they can be reunited with their families without going back to Mexico is for their families to find a “coyote” willing to get them into the US illegally (for a tidy profit, of course).

        The moving force for all this is the Hispanic community leaders. More Hispanics in the community is more power for their leaders. That power is its own reward for some; for others, it’s a lever to money. The only places where you’ll find GOP strength among Hispanics are where most Hispanics are established in the community already and are not dependent on government bennies.

        That’s why there are Hispanic Republican congressmen in Texas and Florida and has been one in New Mexico (the father of the present district’s Democratic congressman), and New Mexico has a Hispanic Republican governor. In those places, the leaders are local business and professional people, not “community organizers”.

    • DRW

      It’s absolutely offensive when people (including some of my liberal family members) assume my wife, being Latina, automatically is in support of any and all modes of amnesty or simply looking the other way. Amnesty is a slap in the face to every immigrant who spent years and thousands of dollars coming here legally.

      People that would automatically support a policy that would give a free pass to someone because they match their skin tone would never vote for a real conservative anyway, because they’ve sold out to class warfare.

  • westcoastpatriette

    You just preached my message for me and saved me another climb up on my soapbox.

  • rightwingmom52

    I posted a couple of comments yesterday re the self-deportation (I’m in Birmingham). Glad to see a front pager put this out there.

    I don’t have any stats to provide, but at the support the immigration law rally held by our local tea party a couple of weeks ago, one of the speakers noted that in Marshall County (one area most affected by illegal immigrants) the unemployment rate dropped a percentage point after the law passed. I haven’t heard any further stats, but am keeping an eye on local reports.

    • westcoastpatriette

      of the new Alabama enforcement strategy. Think it will be very enlightening for other states pondering their next moves to deal with this problem that is not going away.

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    • blooch

      In our Atlanta suburb, the police have been cracking down on the day labor hangouts, mainly by running off the American contractors, and they are also making a stronger effort to nab illegals who prey on other illegals. I don’t know if there is any correlation, but the police blotter in our local paper used to have many hispanic names in the DUI arrest section, almost invariably followed by the additional charge of”Driving without a license”. Not so many hispanic names now, and I don’t think it’s because of an uptick in sobriety.

      The children of illegals have also been zoned out of several schools nearby, including one elementary school a mile from my house which used to answer the phone in Spanish. Test cores and grades have been on the upswing there for two years now, and a few of the good teachers at my kids’ school have transferred there to teach. That’s some “spreadin’ the wealth” I can live with.

      • snowshooze

        I doubt they return to Mexico, and I fear that this only compounds the problem.
        I believe they just pull their kids out of school…and remain.
        So then…uneducated generation of illegal immigrants in a shadow society.
        It is a point made to me by none other than Rick Perry.

        • blooch

          pulling their kids out of school here because they fear deportation. They’ve apparently been zoned into a few elementary schools to keep their low test scores, poor attendance and bad grades from dragging down the averages and AYP at many elementery schools.

          Eventually, assuming the work is still here for their parents, they will show up in my kids’ high school, where they will cause an otherwise good school’s scores to drop, then they’ll be graduated out of the public school Spanish cocoon into their shadow society.

          My county is planning to go to a “county charter school system” soon, but judging by the vague explanations of what this means, this is probably not a good thing. We’ll likely end up paying tax money for Spanish language charter schools which import teachers from Mexico on H1 visas. This may sound like a stretch, but we’ve already got charter schools run by Turks which import Turkish teachers to teach everything…including English!

        • flchristyb

          States that do not uphold our immigration laws, like CA. There were several news segments where journalists spoke with illegals in Arizona after they passed their law, and the ones they talked to were going to California or Nevada, I think one mentioned Utah.
          Here in FL, when the construction jobs disappeared, a survey done showed many illegals had gone back to Mexico or moved to Texas. I have a feeling Texas is going to get slammed with illegals leaving Alabama! That will make Perry look even worse because Texas will have to support them all!

      • macwell

        Thank God that for every Lt. Dike, there’s a Lt. Spears to take up the slack. what a guy.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    If you read what’s going on, they aren’t going back to Mexico, they’re going to other states. I don’t disagree with what’s going on, but we all know that not every state is going to pass and enforce laws like Alabama. It should be interesting to see how the neighboring states handle the influx and the effect it will have on their economies.

    • Next93

      This is working for Alabama because they’re going to Florida or Georgia. It’s working (or will work) for Arizona because they’re going to New Mexico or Colorado. Basically, they’re acting like electrons, flowing from the lower potential to the higher potential across state lines. If the law was enforced in every state, they wouldn’t go back to Mexico (or Ireland, which is also a big source of illegals), they’d just burrow in and go further underground.

      I still say the solution is to make it as easy as a web check to verify citizenship of a potential employee, and then impose actual, in-person jail time on employers who hire illegals. If there are no jobs anywhere in the US, they WILL go back to Mexico.

      • snowshooze

        I have to verify every employee.
        The paperwork is pretty clear.
        I wouldn’t dare try to employ an illegal.
        And I don’t understand how it happens.
        Lack of enforcement?

        • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

          it happened to a meat producer in Arkansas, I guess they didn’t pay off the local politicians.

      • dbkohl

        They just find another state to settle in. Just like any other parasite that is forced away from a host when faced with new anti-parasitic treatment that they are not immune to. The question is this: How many states are going to start moving in this direction once it has become apparent how much less of a drain enforcement states are experiencing.
        As more and more states become unattractive to illegals and they start concentrating in the few remaining states, then we may start seeing a flow back to the South.

      • flchristyb

        A few months ago there was a story about the leaders of several communities in Mexico who wanted States like Arizona penalized because so many illegals had been flowing back into their communities in Mexico and they could not afford to support them!! They wanted Arizona to PAY THEM to support the Mexican citizens that were coming home!!

    • ribeye

      I agree that most of these people will probably migrate to more lax states, but it shows that once the incentive to live there is gone, people will move on to greener pastures. It makes other states want to follow suit, and it’s a domino effect (that’s why the open borders crowd went after AZ with a vengeance, they knew it would spread)

      You combine laws like this and more in every state, both on the local and federal level, and many will simply return home because the jobs aren’t available as a result of workplace enforcement, they can’t draw any sort of entitlements, can’t get a free education, and might be pulled over and have there entire family deported. At the end of the day, America will NOT give you a better life if you’re an illegal immigrant.

      I certainly don’t expect this to solve all of our problems, but if you have REAL border security and effective enforcement, it will stop the magnet effect, people will leave, and we can get our arms around the problem.

      • dbkohl

        I’m not sure if this is current law or not, but it should be. If illegals are caught in the US, they should be identified and have fingerprints taken. Then after deportation not be allowed back legally for a period of time (or permanently).

        If the above is true, then the risk of a routine traffic stop causing the capture of the entire family becomes a much greater risk for them.

  • edintexas

    Not only does the threat of strong enforcement work, elimination of “benefits” works, and enforcement through employer checks on legal status also works.

    Taken together, the fiction of the necessity of deportation of millions is shown to be exactly that, a fiction. Self-deportation occurs, and costs the taxpayers exactly $0.00 USD. Will there still be a need for government enforcement and deportation? Of course. Those who support themselves through criminal activity will not be greatly effected by employer e-Verify requirements, or elimination of welfare program eligibility.

    • Flagstaff

      was the primary reason behind AZ SB 1070 (as it’s become known in folklore). If the right states passed something similar, illegal aliens could all be funneled to the Washingtons and Colorado.

  • haners

    Everyone who is not pandering for Hispanic votes sees this. We have to shut off the magnet. Once we do, the illegal immigrants will self-deport.

    • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

      There’s enough of them around still, and I don’t see them being completely eliminated.

      • haners

        and put some teeth into it by having real penalties of employers. Then see what happens to those sanctuary states….

        This is my biggest problem with Perry. He laughed at E-Verify. He laughs at the fence. His brilliant plan is to put 800 more guardsmen on a 2800 mile border, which would do diddly squat (and probably his intention all along).

        • runner12

          system precisely because it would be another onerous and expensive regulation mandated by the government that businessess would have to pay for. I believe that this is Perry’s reasoning for not liking it. Also, as soon as it was implemented nation-wide there would be people trying to cheat the system.

          The first part we need to do nationally is to secure the borders. Unless we plug the hole, we cannot fix the leak. Then we enforce our laws on the books. In other words, we deport people!

          I have no problem with the AL law. But enforcing all of it on a national level would be near impossible, at least all at once. A good plan would be to allow other states to observe how the AL law plays out. If it continues on the path it is on, then more states will adopt it.

          • rightwingmom52

            seems to be working. Folks complained there would be long lines, big mess, and so on and so on, but they tried the system with the governor’s driver’s license, and it worked. Story is
            here

            Granted, we won’t know what costs are incurred for a while, but I’m guessing it will be a lot less than what the state has been paying out for entitlements and other costs associated with illegal immigrants (schools, etc.)

            Do you know how interactive the federal government is with state databases? What I’m getting at is once AL-verify has really taken hold, can that info be easily shared with the feds to confirm legal status of the folks in our database. Does that make sense?

          • runner12

            businesses or is the state incurring the cost? I honestly want to know.

            As to the sharing of info with the feds, I must admit I would want to see it in action. The scariest words are ” I’m from the government and I want to help…”

          • runner12

            It appears we are talking about two kinds of e-verify. The E-verify in AL, as I read in the article is done through the DMV. That to me is just common sense and not what I was talking about.

            My concern is the forcing of businesses to set up an e-verify system of their own, potentially causing onerous costs to the businesses.

            Perhaps by AL going through the DMV and vehicle registration, we can avoid placing more costs on businesses.

            Carry on AL.

          • rightwingmom52

            My own assumptions are that after the state legislature passed the bill, those who filed suit thought they would win, so there has not been that much info forthcoming about how it would work. Now that it’s in place, I expect to see more. Will definitely watch for articles, stats, etc. and report what I hear.

            Good to see tdwatts input.

            Yes, I knew AL-verify was our own state version of e-verify. Should have made that clear. I don’t know how the program was developed, but if it’s already working without too many glitches this quickly, I would think something could be developed for an e-verify system to interface private businesses with the necessary government entity for anything that going through the DMV doesn’t address. Any thoughts?

          • westcoastpatriette

            is that it is a very simple system consisting of a one page online form to fill out along the lines of an I-9 form. There is nothing burdensome about it as long as you have a computer. Also, since the program was first developed, they have made improvements and the error rate is less than 1%. The system runs the SSN through a data base to confirm that the number belongs to the person claiming it as well as identifying if more than one person is using the number. It also identifies fake numbers.

            Complaints that this would turn employers into immigration cops are unfounded as there is no requirement that the employer report anything to any of the immigration enforcement agencies. E-Verify merely lets the employer know if the person is authorized to work in the U.S. and if not, they must let them go, that is if there is some sort of mandatory E-Verify laws in effect.

          • rightwingmom52

            So assuming the company gets a hit on a bogus SS# and hires the employee anyway, if they don’t have to report anything, how would anyone know in order to impose fines or whatever the punishment is for the violation of hiring illegals?

            I would also assume that if the company searches the SS#, the SSA would have a record of whether or not it comes up as bogus and could designate it as such so that if it shows up as being used, they would know?

            Sounds fairly simple, doesn’t it? Too much to hope for?

          • westcoastpatriette

            I am not clear on how authorities would follow up to catch employers who keep illegals working. Some sort of audit I would guess.

            There are several states such as Alabama and Arizona who have their own E-Verify laws that include sanctions against the employers who knowingly employ illegals. They also include good-faith clauses to protect employers who may have an employee slip through the cracks.

            Keep in mind that a mandatory E-Verify law is being worked on in the House–S.B. 2885 and should it become law it may have an affect on the state laws as, constitutionally, federal laws pertaining to immigration are supreme and may preempt state laws.

            This is a point of contention in the bill as it is written because there is a clause that does that very thing–preempts state laws. The business community is looking for uniformity throughout the states but those of us who want strong enforcement want the states to be empowered to work with the feds as much as possible.

            Anyway, this is a long answer but, in my opinion, this one tool would do more than anything else could to remove the magnet that draws and keeps illegals here. S.B. 2885 has strong penalties that include huge fines as well as prison time for employers who hire and continue to employ illegals. It is high time they were held accountable for contributing to the mess and until this happens, we will never get a handle on this problem.

          • tdwatts Watts

            We setup e-verify in our office to comply with the Alabama law. It was very easy and there were no costs.

            E-verify has some issues- 1) You can’t prescreen potential employees. You only screen them once they’re hired. 2) The process is needlessly complicated. A half-intelligent person can do it, but it’s not straightforward. 3) you’re not allowed to screen employees hired before you signed up for e-verify. 4) you must post notices in both English and Spanish advising people you participate in e-verify.

          • runner12

            That is helpful. It is good to know that it did not incur costs for your business. It being complicated is no surprise, it was created by the government!

      • ribeye

        Eventually though, even the “Sanctuary States” will be unlivable for the people that actually pay the bills. (I would argue Los Angeles is already there) I would rather the problem be magnified in a smaller area then spread out over 50 states.

        The Feds can also easily end the Sanctuary State phenomenon through a combination of federal laws, enforcement or simply cutting off highway funds for states that don’t have some basic enforcement of illegal immigration.

        There’s no single silver bullet, but I completely reject this idea that there’s nothing we can do but grant them citizenship.

        • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

          the don’t seem to be too concerned about not being able to pay their bills.

          • californiagold

            Reports I’ve read suggest that there are nearly 500,000 undocumented students in the LA public school system alone. Don’t know if that’s accurate, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

            And nothing will change. You know why ? Because neither party is serious about border enforcement.

          • macwell

            When they run out of other people’s money, let them pay in sprouts. No bail out loans for Cal.

  • azrally

    If any of our candidates is successful in implementing tax change, (Newt’s one page, Cain’s 999, Flat tax, FAIR tax) then we will have a readily available force of Federal employees to audit employers and fully implement the E-verify program on a national level. . .

    • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

      no text here

  • tdwatts Watts

    Here in Mobile, Alabama, the local newspaper reported that the day the law went into effect, a Hispanic store that normally sells 1 bus ticket a day sold 25 bus tickets to Mexico.

    • lineholder

      Mexico? Can I ask you to do something for me, please? Do you have a link to that newspaper online? If you do, will you post it? I know someone who would be interested in getting that information and I’ll forward it on to her. Thanks.

      • Bill S
        • lineholder

          I tried, but couldn’t find it. I must have been approaching it the wrong way. What did you use as keywords?

          • Bill S

            Chose the first hit from Google. Then I used the paper’s search feature and searched for “bus tickets” I think it was the 2nd hit on their list…

            (Way long ago when I was in college (mid-80s), I got paid to do research journal searches for grad students…used a teletype terminal dialed into Lexus-Nexus, I think… so I’ve been doing this search thing for a while. :-) )

          • lineholder

            ^

      • tdwatts Watts

        http://blog.al.com/live/2011/10/baldwins_hispanic_business_own.html

        This is on online version of the article I read in the Press Register

        • lineholder

          !

          • lineholder

            I’ve already sent rwm52 a head’s up to check this. She lives in AL, too. I’m sure she’ll appreciate it.

  • harlan

    But to where? Mexico is a long way away, and provides no freebies.

    I’ll bet most are headed to Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, etc.

    • soljerblue

      Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee do as we did; as Arizona did.

    • Repair_Man_Jack

      If one state makes a decision that solves one of it’s problems, it will unfairly impact other states by being too intelligent. And if The Federal Gov. has nointention whatsoever of enforcing it’s laws, woe betide the state or municipality that picks up the gauntlet as well.

  • soljerblue

    for the past 25 years, spent the last half of my journalism career here, and since retirement been an active Tea Party member. I can tell you that getting this law wasn’t easy. Majority Democrats who had controlled the legislature for 136 years had refused to take the immigration issue seriously. It took several years of fruitless effort, and finally a clean sweep of both houses and the top constitutional offices in 2010 to position this law for final passage. All that, and it’s supported by more than 70 percent of the citizens here. Now, of course, the farmers are complaining that they can’t get their tomatoes picked. Vital as they are in Alabama’s economy, they are not getting much sympathy for the moment. The cheap labor they’ve come to rely on is disappearing, but jobs are becoming available for people who are willing to WORK, and the farmers, landscapers, and others used to cheap labor will have to charge more and pay more. FINE! The jobs will go to people who need them and are willing to work for a decent wage. And if we’re paying more, well — we’re spending a lot less in taxpayers’ money to subsidize the locusts who are plaguing this state.

    If you break into my house, I’m not inviting you to dinner.

    If you break into my country, we have nothing to talk about.

    • rightwingmom52

      this morning from a local talk show host (Leland Whaley) driving in to work. Set up a “you pick, you pay” system. Effectively cuts out the middle man, the consumers pay less and the farmers make more.

      Also reported here

      The Etowah County Sheriff?s Department apprehended three men from Yemen during a drug raid Friday. One produced papers showing he had become a citizen. The second had a work visa. But the third man, who was accused of obstructing a government operation, could not produce any records and was held in jail.

      and here

      Jose Matute, 26, originally encountered on a “suspicious person” call, was booked into the Baldwin County Corrections Center on Friday night without bail.

      That same day, a man detained in Gadsden after he was suspected to be in violation of the new law was released after authorities learned he was a U.S. citizen.

      Matute was wanted on a federal warrant for failing to appear at a deportation hearing and handed over to Immigrations and Customs Enforcement by Monday and the state immigration charge was dropped.

  • ihateliberals

    The second problem is that many people that would take that type of work don’t even know it is available yet. The farmers want to say they can’t get their crops picked. Oh BooHoo. let them rot and make the farmers start paying a decent wage for this work. The only reason the farmers are trying to show this as a failure is that it is all about the money. A national E0verify law needs to be put into effect and the people tht use the illegals for workers need to be arrested ans well as the work being hired. There are plenty of people willing to work these kinds of jobs if given a chance and a decent wage for dong it. hey so maybe we wll hve to pay more for vegetables picked by better workers. Maybe some of the funky diseases tht have been gong around will stop.

  • snowshooze

    The Federal Government should have secured the border.

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