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So, Whose House is it Anyway?

Last year, the American people voted overwhelmingly for a Republican House of Representatives.  Based upon their campaign pledges, the prevailing expectation of a “Republican House” was a body of revitalized Republicans who would not fund Obamacare and Dodd-Frank, downsize Freddie/Fannie, oppose appropriator-concocted omnibus bills, and fight for at least some of their priorities in the Ryan budget.

A year later, the prevailing sentiment amongst the GOP ruling class within the House is antithetical to those ideals.  First it was the minibus; then it was the omnibus; now there’s talk about a megabus (coupled with unemployment benefits and tax extenders).  Instead of demanding that Democrats pass a proper budget and allow both chambers to vote on one bill at a time, they are willing to genuflect before Harry Reid and Senate Democrats.  The fact that we are running late on appropriations is not the fault of Republicans, and the American people know that.  Why reward Democrats for their insouciance towards our budget process by granting them all the major policy riders and spending levels?

Yet, astoundingly, House appropriators are blaming conservatives for weakening their leverage.  They bemoan how they are forced to seek Democrat votes in order to pass…Senate Democrat bills.  The million dollar question is this: if they are demanding that we support Democrat bills in order to pass the House without Democrat support, what sort of leverage are they trying to achieve?  Here is the latest from Roll Call:

 “I’d guess we’ll see another 100-plus Republicans vote ‘no’ on the megabus. This is apparently the new governing coalition on major items: Most Democrats plus Republicans who still trust leadership that they’ll eventually do the right thing,” a GOP House aide said. […]

From the perspective of Republican appropriators, their party’s negotiating position was weakened when 101 Republicans voted “no” on the recent three-bill minibus.

“Without sufficient Republican votes, Labor-HHS will have to pass with Democrat votes and with Obamacare funding in it,” said Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.), adding, “If Republicans stick together, we’ll be in a much stronger position on Labor-HHS.”

Asked whether Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is prepared to bring legislation to the House floor that would fund the president’s health care law and that would pass with mostly Democratic votes, Boehner spokesman Michael Steel declined to comment.

So giving Democrats everything they want on all the fundamentals – the same fundamentals that propelled the GOP into power – is the new strategy for….gaining leverage against Democrats.  And we are to believe that it is our enthusiastic support for the 2010 Republican platform, pledge, and budget that is handing control of the House to Democrats. Has the political parlance been turned upside down?  When you need Democrats to pass your legislation, maybe you should look in the mirror when assigning blame.

Moreover, how much longer are we going to shirk from a direct confrontation over defunding Obamacare?  Are we really going to place all of our aspirations in the capricious hands of Anthony Kennedy?  And even if he agrees to overturn the individual mandate, it is likely that the rest of the bill will remain intact to destroy the healthcare system.

Well, you might ask, if the individual mandate is repealed, won’t the rest of the bill be rendered unfeasible?  Yes, but it is already unfeasible, yet the Democrats don’t care.

Well, it would be politically unfeasible, you might retort.  Yes, but it is already a political loser, yet the Democrats still refuse to repeal it.

The bottom line is that we will, most likely, need to defund Obamacare, and eventually repeal it.  The longer we wait; the longer we refrain from using our real leverage to defund it, the more we lose our moral clarity and righteous indignation against it.  After all, if it really will destroy the economy and permanently reshape our country, how can we allow it to remain funded for even one day?

It is conservatives who are the true “team players” – willing to remain on the battlefield and fight for what we all coalesced around during the elections.  Whose House is it anyway?

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  • tomatin

    Remember Boehner I got “98% what I wanted”. What a line of BS.

    We know now he was about to give $800 billion of tax cuts away and the deal he did make has a $900 billion poison pill in it for defense cuts.

    • cwilson

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  • donald_24

    How do Republicans repeal ObamaCare when the Democrats control the Senate and the White House?

    • acat

      Which Senate contests do you think we’ll lose? Unlikely Voter has a Senate tool, IIRC, that you can use to map this out.

      There are more Dem Senators up for election than GOPers. Should be easy to take the handful of seats we need to flip it.

      The House is looking okay as well. Not great, but .. okay.

      Not sure why you think we’re going to lose both. Explain.

      Mew

      • donald_24

        I was referring to the make up of the current Congress, in which repeal is impossible. Even if the GOP takes control of the Senate next year, and that is more dificult to do than most peopel think since Scott Brown and Dean Hller will be fighting for their survival, the GOP will not have 60 votes.

        • acat

          I agree that getting to 60 will be touch-and-go, and I’ll stipulate it’d be easier if we had a decent POTUS candidate with coattails.

          That said, I want for you to go to the Likely Voter link I provided, and show your work. Show me which Senate seats you consider not-winnable for the GOP.

          Mew

          • donald_24

            Sabato just came out with a great piece today that analyzes all the races. Unfortunately for the GOP, he just downgraded Arizona and Massachusetts in favor of the Dems.

            http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/happening-now/blog/2011/12/01/prof-larry-sabatos-crystal-ball-race-senate

            Some highlights:

            “Arizona: After months of cajoling, former Surgeon General Richard Carmona’s entry into this race gives national Democrats a new chance to win a Senate seat away from Republicans.”

            “Massachusetts: Republican Sen. Scott Brown is probably the most vulnerable Republican senator in the country, thanks to the entry of consumer advocate Elizabeth Warren into the race.”

            “Nevada: While Massachusetts has surpassed the Silver State as the Democrats’ best opportunity to win a Republican-held seat, the likely contest between appointed Sen. Dean Heller (he took over for the disgraced ex-GOP Sen. John Ensign) and Rep. Shelley Berkley provides another rare opportunity for Democrats to play offense on Republican turf.”

          • acat

            Tell me about every seat.
            Every. Cotton. Pickin’. One.

            You made the claim, back it up.

            Mew

          • donald_24

            I don’t see any Senate tool on the unlikely voter website. All I see are House and Electoral college tools.

          • acat

            We do know that it’s the Class 1 Senators who are up, and they’re all listed on Wikipedia. Tell me which ones you think we lose.

            Mew

          • donald_24

            I think it is safe to say that the Dems will win the following races:

            1. California: Feinstein
            2. Connecticut: Open
            3. Delaware: Carper
            4. Hawaii: Open
            5. Maryland: Cardin
            6. Michigan: Stabenow
            7. Minnestoa: Klobuchar
            8. New Jersey: Menendez
            9. New York: Gillibrand
            10. Ohio: Sherrod Brown
            11. Pennsylvania: Casey
            12. Vermont: Sanders
            13. Washington: Cantwell
            14. West virginia: Manchin

          • acat

            of several of the Dem candidates.

            Just taking Minnesota, for example, Klobuchar has made several missteps, and the State has been trending more purple. (note that the GOP won the government shutdown) A solid candidate, and it flips.

            You’re welcome to continue your eeyore-braying, but .. I don’t see the point.

            Mew

          • Common_Cents

            But we’re talking MN, I live here, it’s weird politically.

          • donald_24

            But last year, Minnesota was one of the few states that went from having a Republican governor to having a Democratic governor despite an overwhelming Red tide.

            According to SurveyUSA, Klobuchar leads 2 possible GOP candidates by over 30 points:

            http://kstp.com/news/stories/S2364548.shtml

            Republicans could win if they ran Tim Pawlenty. But he is not running. That is a lost opportunity.

          • acat

            about not raising taxes when he was the candidate.

            When a Dem lies to win, they can still win .. but it makes them more vulnerable next go’round.

            Mew

          • federalfarmer1

            Got hammered repeatedly in adds about his old duis.

          • donald_24

            Are there any other Dems I overstaed the strength of? I formed my analysis in 2 ways. First, I looked at polls. And secondly, I looked at how GOP Senate canddiates performed in those states in 2010. I beleive that 2012 will be less friendly toward the GOP than 2010, so if the Dems won a state in 2010, it is safe to assume they will win it in 2012.

          • acat

            I don’t see it. Ohioans, like other rust-belt midwesterners, are pocketbook conservatives. In a down economy they’re not going to be liking the guy who voted for a big share of their misery.

            Mew

          • donald_24

            15 points:

            http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/193011-poll-sherrod-brown-15-points-ahead-in-ohio-senate-race

            Compared to another possible GOP challenger, Brown is ahead by 21 points:

            http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1322.xml?ReleaseID=1666

          • acat

            I think you’re looking really hard to find some of these problems, Donald. Suspiciously hard.

            Mew

          • mirac777

            Hoekstra Gaining on Stabenow in Michigan

            Former Republican Rep. Pete Hoekstra has sent out a fundraising email with the encouraging news that two-term Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow of Michigan is below 50 percent in a new poll.

            The poll also found that 52 percent of voters have a negative view of the job Stabenow has done, and only 41 percent have a positive view.

          • donald_24

            I won’t go into toss ups because it is way too early for that. But any Senate Seat with an incumbant Republican that is a toss up is not good news.

          • mirac777

            In every single one of those so-called toss-up states that is forcing painful budget cuts, just what makes you think those voters would support more debt-spending Liberal fake Democrats there?

          • donald_24

            Well, did Issue 2 not just get defeated in Ohio?

            Did 2 GOP Wisconsin Senators not get recalled?

            Look at what is happening on the ground. Don’t listen to the media spin and the Beltway spin doctors.

            Remmeber, most people only support cutting spending as long as it is not spending that affects them. So don’t think for a second that voters want to get serious about cutting spending. They don’t.

          • cwilson

            He is not a disinterested bystander. He’s a political operative, and has an agenda — one that is opposed to Conservatives and Tea Partiers. Google him for his past positions, and actions/interference in Republican primaries.

          • donald_24

            I would add that, as a general rule, any incumbant who is polling under 50% agaisnt their challnger is in deep trouble. Scott Brown, for instance, is currently polling at 43% in a recent UMass poll.

          • acat

            but I doubt #OccupyBoston are all that popular.

            Mew

          • tailfins1959

            Wait until Elizabeth Warren opens her mouth. She is so shrill that she will drive people away. Voters even in Massachusetts don’t like being spoken to in an accusatory, condescending manner. She is playing right into Brown’s hand by acting entitled to the seat.

          • acat

            He’s infuriated Red State commentators enough times…

            (Cheshire grin)

          • mirac777

            and progressive scabs like Snowe and Collins and Graham more times than not.

            Using Liberal Massachusetts as a national gauge of our chances of taking the U.S. senate in 2012 is flawed thinking at it’s most glaring to those with their hands on the pulse of true American voter. IMO the GOP will end up with exactly 60 seats in 2013 in the Senate. That number also reflects the fact that a few progressive GOPers will also get the boot. 60.

          • renl57

            The point is that repealing ObamaCare–or even getting Harry Reid to agree to a vote on it–is not feasible *now*.

            Any vote taken by the House is purely symbolic.

            And it could even backfire.

            Remember, the original GOP slogan was “Repeal AND REPLACE,” not just repeal.

            To just vote for repeal of ObamaCare without anything to replace it with, looks like:

            a) an admission that the GOP never did come up with a replacement; and

            b) the GOP can’t deal with some of the problems that ObamaCare was intended to fix (and failed at that), such as the pre-existing condition problem.

            In the 2012 campaign, whoever the GOP candidate is, will be able to explain to prospective voters what the GOP plans to replace ObamaCare with. If that sells, then the GOP will be in a much better position to try again next year.

      • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

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    • tomatin

      voting to repeal Obamacare and for passing the Ryan budget.

      But they did make a bad debt deal which I can’t overlook. They had Obama over a barrel and gave him the debt ceiling raise anyway.

      • snowshooze

        I agree completely, Boehner snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. He is not improving either.

        • mirac777

          What is the point of taking control of the house, thus the purse, if you are not willing to shut it down while sticking to your supposed conservative principles? Simple math: The 2011 federal deficit ends up just a whisker lower than the all-time record massive debt-spending increases of 2010. EPIC FAIL

          • renl57

            When there was a Government shutdown, the public sided with the President over Congress.

            That’s what the GOP is afraid of.

    • ghostship

      But then again even if the the Republicans controlled the House, the Senate, and the W.H. the Republicans still wouldn’t repeal OamaCare.

      The reason for this is simple. It is ideological majorities and not political majorities that decide what policies our nation adopts. Until the Republican Party becomes a Conservative Party then the Left will continue to control the course of this nation.

  • AceInTX

    From the Republican Main Street Partnership Web site:

    Healthcare

    The United States has the most advanced healthcare system in the world and as a result attracts patients from all over the world. We need to ensure that the United States continues to encourage and foster innovation in the healthcare sector.

    We believe that the provisions of Obamacare that are not working should be repealed, that those provisions that are working should be retained, and that additional healthcare reform measures should be passed that will increase access to quality healthcare while at the same time lowering costs across the healthcare system.

    We must pursue market-driven solutions that utilize new technologies and an understanding of disease management in both clinical and preventive care to reduce costs, enhance treatment and expand access.

    We must ensure doctors are able to treat all patients by reforming medical malpractice and fixing Medicare and Medicaid policies.

    Oh Ace..there you go again mouthing off about an irrelevant group of Republicans who have no power in Washington.

    THINK AGAIN…

    This is an organization of LIBERAL Republicrats made up of 57 Senators and Congressmen all of whom chair comittees and work with Democrats to undermine the conservative agenda in Washington.

    Want to know who they are…go to their site

    http://www.republicanmainstreet.org/members/

    • kestrel

      Dave Camp is a member of both the liberal Republican Main Street Partnership and the conservative Republican Study Committee. I wonder if he is the only one who is a member of both. Guess which group his Heritage Action score (57%) says he should marry?

      Perhaps there is an explanation that escapes me, but it looks like Mr. Camp is (cue music) “torn between two lovers” — Big Government and a conservative campaign veneer.

      • AceInTX

        and anti conservative in off years

        • rickdeckard

          the Republican plan is to retain only the market driven solutions presented by Obamacare, and scrap the rest. Riiiight.

          That would be….ALL OF IT.

          And this sounds familiar:

          …to reduce costs, enhance treatment and expand access.

          Pure Obama, version 2008. During the campaign he missed no opportunity to leave the impression that he would cut costs while increasing access. (Or was it cut costs BY increasing access?) Republicans have chosen style over substance on this, and are prepared to offer up the same empty soporifics that put Obama in the White House in the hope that this is the path to a well heeled majority.

          Way to capitalize on last year’s mandate, guys. Major WHIFF.

          Just curious. have any republicans even whispered the term “tort reform” since this session began? I mean other than Jim DeMint. Or Paul Ryan.

  • determinedconservative

    n/t

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    There was a reason that we were the party of spending during the Bush years.

    They are craven cowards like Graham, ambitious iconoclasts like McCain, two faced Blowhards like Boehner, or doddering old wet blankets like McConnell.

    We have to put a lot more new blood into there.

    • westcoastpatriette

      //

    • runner12

      NT

    • mirac777

      Repubs ran in GWB’ s first 6 years in office with the 1.38 trillion AVG. deficits of Barack Hiussein Obama during the last 3 years please. Also please note: DEMOCRATS controlled both houses in 2007,2008. Just keepin it real here.

  • benko

    but how about a letter sent to all the relevant republicans:

    “your contributions to our country will be long remembered”

    Then a picture of an american flag followed by the words

    “WELCOME TO GREECE”

    Or is that too subtle for them?

  • benko

    but how about a letter sent to all the relevant republicans:

    “your contributions to our country will be long remembered”

    Then a picture of an american flag followed by the words

    “WELCOME TO GREECE”

    Or is that too subtle for them?

  • http://www.AmericanThinker.com Hammer2008
    The Iron Lady and Ronald Reagan

    Margaret Thatcher learned two things: “do not compromise conservatism, and, when in doubt, fight”.

    Suprisingly the Vanity Fair article( linked above) is a great history piece on not only The Iron Lady, but on “compromise” conservatives as well. It’s time to start primaring the 100-squishy conservatives led by Speaker Boehner, including himself.

    John Boehner 2011 is Edward Heath 1974 reincarnated:

    “Heath spectacularly went back on his election promises to reduce government interference in the economy and tame the labor unions, instead inventing a policy to control all prices and incomes and increasing public spending… a British postwar disease of socialism, state intervention, debauched currency, weakened incentives, and overly powerful trade unions. The Tories, he declared, had been complicit in all of this, and especially so in the case of Heath?s ?U-turn? over economic policy. They must devise a new strategy…”

    So too must be our conservative strategy. Where GOP leadership compromises on principle — repeatedly — we hold the line, while working to primary them, holding their feet to the fire.

    It’s obvious the Boehner-leadership team has failed to understand the gravity of 2010. Maybe there’s a reason “Rep. Mike Pence” (R-IN) knew it was time to leave, less he be tainted by the go-alongs too.

    • http://www.AmericanThinker.com Hammer2008

      (sorry, jacked that up, still being a novice with the HTML help instructions. Here’s how the botton portion should read:)

      John Boehner 2011 is Edward Heath 1974 reincarnated:

      ?Heath spectacularly went back on his election promises to reduce government interference in the economy and tame the labor unions, instead inventing a policy to control all prices and incomes and increasing public spending? a British postwar disease of socialism, state intervention, debauched currency, weakened incentives, and overly powerful trade unions. The Tories, he declared, had been complicit in all of this, and especially so in the case of Heath?s ?U-turn? over economic policy. They must devise a new strategy??

      So too must be our conservative strategy. Where GOP leadership compromises on principle ? repeatedly ? we hold the line, while working to primary them, holding their feet to the fire.

      It?s obvious the Boehner-leadership team has failed to understand the gravity of 2010. Maybe there?s a reason Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) knew it was time to leave, less he be tainted by the go-alongs too.

  • origami

    but getting angry at the Democrats for doing exactly what they said they’d do doesn’t make a lot of sense. The problem isn’t with them it’s with our two faced representatives sitting in safe seats. The New freshman have fought valiantly for the tea party cause, but they can’t get very far with corrupt leadership. The Democrats don’t make them roll over, they want to roll over.

  • Kyle-MI

    Here is what I don’t get. The majority of House Republicans vote against these lousy spending bills but they also voted to put these people on the appropriations committee.

    What we need is a House rule that allows a vote of no confidence on appropriations committee members at any time. If we don’t have the right people on this committee, the GOP House is just chasing its own tail.

    • kestrel

      The worst people end up protected and promoted.

    • mirac777

      And for the perfect example i give you the spineless Fred Upton. Energy and Commerce Chairman. man what a BFM. ( as in big frigging mistake) Check him out in teh CSPAN video library some time. It’s sure to have smoke coming out of the ears of any true conservative.

      Then we have Sen. Lindsay Graham ( L- SC) on the judiciary committee.

  • kestrel

    far from most Americans the Republican leadership is, in their thinking. It is even more mind-blowing that they don’t seem to believe that any gap exists, let alone a gap the size of the Grand Canyon.

    A person can only pretend for so long that no choice must be made between two irreconcilable paths. I had this happen in a job. I went out of my way to get along with colleagues, giving every allowance to the other side, mostly by giving grace (which they mistook to be my making excuses for them) as I made the case for alternative action that was usually adopted.

    But as you would expect, the day finally came when I had to say, “No. There’s no mistake. I did it (the specific action) this way on purpose, here’s why, and I saw and still see no alternative.” My boss was incredulous beyond what I can describe. He repeatedly called me into his office to hint that I should agree to tell the higher boss that my action was accidental, inadvertent, anything but 100% intentional. I have never appreciated a black and white contrast more.

    I ended up fired, but I did not regret it too much, and even less so now. I’d had a good relationship with my boss. He stopped by my desk as I cleared out my things, and I couldn’t help thinking that he was actually jealous that he hadn’t refused to sell his own soul before attaining a position and salary that make it that much more difficult.

    Keep your integrity, Republican freshmen. You were sent to Washington to cut spending and kill ObamaCare. Please follow through.

    • renl57

      Before forcing a confrontation with the Dems that might lead to a Government shutdown, the GOP should commission some private polls to find out whether the public would side with the GOP this time.

      They didn’t the last time.

      When it was Gingrich vs. Clinton, the public sided with Clinton. And Gingrich ended up the loser, even losing the Speakership.

      And this time, any government shutdown that furloughs lots of Government employees will reduce Government demand for all kinds of goods and services, from paper clips to electricity. When unemployment is high and the economy is already stagnating, that’s not going to help.

      • kestrel

        is Government buying more paper clips. We have had $787 worth of “paperclips” (would that it were so, instead of, say, financing the implementation of Dodd-Frank, Obamacare, and Democrat money-laundering “investments”) for each of the past three years: A “one-time” $787 stimulus planted in the autopilot budget to recur every year without notice or debate.

        Apart from the military, the salaries and benefits of cronyist paper-pushing bureaucrats surely cost far more than their equipment. I’m not saying that no white-collar government workers perform a valuable function, but the duplication and waste is staggering. The lard is so thick, someone should package and sell it for Christmas baking. And most of these people are so well taken care of that a furlough shouldn’t hurt them much.

        In case you hadn’t noticed, hundreds of thousands of formerly politically inactive people have been turning out all over the country for the past two years to tell government to repeal ObamaCare and stop the torrent of deficit spending.

        The MSM no longer controls the narrative, lock, stock and barrel, as they did in the 1990′s. Nor do we, but what do you think was the message of the sweeping Republican wins in the 2010 election? Commission a poll, my eye. If you don’t know who has the upper hand, you are as out of touch as Boehner. Woe to those Republicans who keep voting with Boehner and his “business as usual”.

  • cwfoster

    It’s because the Progressives hijacked the Democrat Party early in the 20th Century and in the latter half of the century thoroughly satuted it, and begain infiltrating the GOP. Those GOP members who have been around long enough to assume leadership positions are the remainder of them. this is saul Alinsky’s choice that is no choice but the same thing repackaged, and until we primary out those to are enemy agents provocateurs, we will never undo ANY of the liberal agenda because ultimately, it is also their agenda!

  • mirac777

    80% of the progressive pukes infecting Congress immediately. One can only dream of that common sense reform today that would return the government to the people.