I’m staying with Chuck DeVore


I appreciate Sarah Palin. I know sometimes you read that I’m somehow a critic of Palin’s, but truth be told, I love the lady. You can say all day that she doesn’t have the “intellectual curiosity” to be President — which is to Palin as “Cheney’s gravitas” was to Bush — but you cannot deny this woman is fundamentally conservative, Christian, and would be a heck of a lot better than the present guy in the White House. For all of you who deny her intellect, you cannot deny her gut is conservative. I appreciate that.

She stood with Doug Hoffman when few others would and she stood with Rand Paul when few others would. I appreciate being able to stand side by side with her in those races. But she and I part ways in California.

I get that she endorsed John McCain. She would not be where she was, but for McCain. And I get that she endorsed Fiorina. In addition to Fiorina being the McCain campaign chair, there is a desperate desire among Republicans to stop Tom Campbell. I get it.

But I’m with Chuck DeVore and I refuse to yield in this fight.

I’m not abandoning Chuck just because Sarah Palin had decided to go elsewhere. As much as I’d have loved her to get on board with Mike Lee in Utah and Marlin Stutzman in Indiana (hopefully she’ll go with Ken Buck in Colorado), we don’t always have to see eye to eye. Honestly, I’d rather be batting 1000 with Jim DeMint, who is in the Senate and knows what the Senate really needs. Right now I am batting that thousand. DeMint is with Chuck DeVore. So am I.

So God bless Governor Palin. She and I can agree to disagree.

I hope, though, that you might stick with Chuck DeVore. I believe in Chuck DeVore‘s campaign, which is unapologetically conservative. I think that this year is unlike so many other years — even a deaf and blind pig could beat Barbara Boxer. In this environment, we ought to go with the one candidate who does not view “conservative” as a four letter word.

Now, there are some pro-life and pro-conservative women groups that have gone all in for Fiorina. Good for them. But there is only one candidate in the race who has actually stood up for the unborn and stood up for conservative women instead of laying them off. That’s Chuck DeVore.

While we may be in an “anybody but Campbell” mood, consider these facts:

  • Capitol Weekly / Probolsky poll recently showed Chuck and Carly in a statistical tie.
  • Lewis Group poll of only Orange County GOP last week showed Chuck one point ahead of Carly. (I don’t want to make too much of this, but it’s a reasonable stand-in for the state party at large.)
  • The latest Rasmussen hypotheticals vs Boxer had Campbell doing best, Chuck next, and Carly worst.
  • Since Campbell’s entry, polling trend lines are: Campbell static, Fiorina in decline, Chuck rising. Chuck has gone from about 5% to the 15-20% range. Carly has gone from the 30-25% range to the just-below-20% range.

The bottom line from my perspective is that Chuck and Carly are intersecting as he goes up and she comes down. There will be a dogfight for second place, and whomever wins it will beat Campbell, who hit his ceiling of support on day one and hasn’t increased it one bit.

I stand with Jim DeMint and I stand with Chuck DeVore. I hope you will too.


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This is civil discourse

Redfox (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 7:39AM EDT (link)

Erick-thanks for showing us what it means to disagree with someone and still be civil about it.

Hear! Hear! Redfox [nt]

zollistar (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 3:27PM EDT (link)

Amen!

RINKER Monday, May 10th at 9:22AM EDT (link)

I’m glad you don’t agree with everyone who posts here that we conservatives can disagree without being ridiculed and bashed.

 
 

Mega Dittos here

lefthandrightword Monday, May 10th at 9:53AM EDT (link)

I couldn’t agree more. emailed Sarah Palin this weekend about this very thing.
I do love this woman but CANNOT understand her endorsement of Fiorina.
She carries too much weight with the American people to endorse a candidate that flips on issues, and, well…let’s say it, lies. When Fiorina finds certain positions to her detriment, she not only flips, she denies her former position. This woman is the perfect example of a RINO.

 
 

I am with Devore too!

Doc Holliday (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 8:13AM EDT (link)

I have no ill will towards Palin for her endorsement anyone who does needs to think a bit more about what it means to be a conservative. We are the thinking man’s party. We do not follow people blindly because they cause a thrill to go up our legs. We agree with people when they make sense to us and when they don’t we disagree. I find this all pretty simple but I know why it must be said.

Molon Labe!

 

Palin harmed her conservative bona fides

Scope (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 8:22AM EDT (link)

with her support of Fiorina. Many left her after the McCain endorsement, but many others also understood the why with McCain. No one is buying the Fiorina worked for the McCain campaign reasoning. After the Fiorina endorsement, Palin’s endorsement credibility no longer holds the weight it once did. Did Fiorina’s poll numbers go down after the Palin endorsement?

DeVore’s increase in poll numbers may be reflective of that endorsement, along with the fact that many recognize a good thing when they see it.

Good luck Chuck, take it all the way.

5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5*5 nt

AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 4:46PM EDT (link)

How many total 100% acceptable conservatives are left in America after Rubio said he feared a police state in AZ? - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 4:52PM EDT (link)

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

GC- I agreed with you

Scope (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 9:04PM EDT (link)

in recognizing that Rubio’s statements on the police state in AZ, and even more had problems with his “cautious” positions on drilling for our own oil in light of the Gulf Coast oil spill. Those statements seemed anathema to what we, as conservatives, are all about, and, what Rubio seemed to recognize in order to rise as he did. Those statements may be what has the loser Crist gaining in the polls, That is very temporary.

As you have said, are there any 100% dependable conservatives for us to get behind, after a major disappoint by Rubio? Yes, there are. Plenty of them. But, they also will fail the test of 100%. Rubio is still the best choice between him, Crist and Meeks. Rubio’s comments came close for me to Fred announcing that he was dropping out of the race. It was hard to get by, but, I did. I realized that when you put all your eggs in one basket, you will almost always get disappointed. There are others that will please us as much, but will never be perfect.

agreed and understood - all men are flawed, which is why

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 1:01AM EDT (link)

I am even tolerant for occasional votes against my way even by old guys!

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 

Rubio adjusts his view

voxoreason Monday, May 10th at 11:37AM EDT (link)

Perhaps someone brought him up to speed on 1952′s McCarran-Walter Immigration and Nationality Act (USC 1304), in which subsection e is operative (although it mentions sub d, which deals with issuance of ID cards, so I refrain from copy/pasting the whole):

(e) Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties:
Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of
a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

“Undocumented” and “illegal” are synonymous in this context. Rubio played politics and got bit. He later clarified. Texas Gov Perry lost his spine, but has time to recover.

Who knows? Maybe Perry doesn’t have to sweat being pulled by the State Patrol or doing routine banking transactions. The vast majority of Texans probably don’t enjoy these perks. (I grew up in Texas. My parents, both teachers back when schools actually worked, didn’t enjoy ‘em! Banks required ID, although my parents didn’t get pulled for speeding.)

Waiting for this to be reported? May I suggest that you sit down while you wait? (Rich Lowry is in a class by himself on this one.) Perhaps after the Tennessee flooding receives more than a modicum of mention by the press or Obama.

The promised “Day 1″ involvement seems to have disappeared. I’m shocked. Perhaps others have caught this, but I’m stupid and hadn’t noticed.

 
 

Not so bad a comment when read with the whole paragraph. nt

bs61 Sunday, May 9th at 10:08PM EDT (link)
 
 

I of course stand with Devore as well...he gets my money...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 9:02AM EDT (link)

as a matter of fact he and Conservatives like him get the money I used to send to Sarah’s PAC, so she has done him and others a FAVOR :)

So...

hotspur (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 9:20AM EDT (link)

You’re looking for the politician who endorse EXACTLY everyone you like and vote EXACTLY the way YOU want them to or they’re not conservative enough for you?

In essence, you’re looking for yourself.

So run for office.

People taking a dump on Sarah for this are, I’m sorry to say, petulant children. They need to grow up.

Palin is irrelevant...

azaeroprof (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 9:47AM EDT (link)

…or so say many across the political spectrum. For someone who is “too polarizing to get elected” and a “quitter with no elective future”, she sure gets a lot of attention and brings out the worst in both liberals and conservatives alike.

Let’s not forget that had our conservative hero been elected 4 years sooner, we would have had a liberal Republican (Richard Schweiker of PA) as Vice-President. Even at that, we still ended up with GHW Bush, no particular friend of conservatism. Successful politicians on the national stage know that there is a difference between ideological purity and winning general elections.

 

So.......

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 10:10AM EDT (link)

YEP to all you said because its MY MONEY! I can EXPECT what I want when it comes to my HARD EARNED DOLLARS! btw you can do the same but if you choose to spend your dollars on people who do not agree with you 100% of the time then that is your folly. I am sure you thought you were being snarky by utilizing my caps writing for your Sarah Palin tribute but my Conservatism does not allow me to DRINK THE KOOL-AID that Palin supporters around the nets do!

So squeeze back into the depths of that Palin hole you crawled out of and go about your day!

 

The problem with this endorsement is the same as the one for McCain...

AceInTX (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 4:52PM EDT (link)

it’s an establishment type endorsement. It’s a naked political play. It’s pandering to the party bosses.

For me it show naivete in that…she endorsed McCain after he allowed his staffers to use her as a door mat with a wink and a nod…now she endorses his campaign chief?

She’s pandering to the McCain establishment types with this endorsement…and it’s a shame…it’s the only thing that can destroy her because by endorsing McCain and Fiorina she is leaving behind the very thing that made her so appealing…instead of being an outsider…she now becomes an insider…

It’s a mistake of the first order…it’s not a complete deal breaker…but if she keeps playing patty cake with the McCain wing of the party…she is toast

MarkTwain 3

 
 
 

I will

gazill Sunday, May 9th at 9:09AM EDT (link)

still vote for Chuck. While I too respect Palin; she certainly fired up the conservatives, revitalizing the dying McCain campaign, I have no interest in voting for Fiorina or Campbell (except over Boxer).

Obama’s America-the paucity of hope

I'm kind of tired of her nt

Cheryl (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 12:15PM EDT (link)

“A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America, than the whole force of the common enemy.” –Samuel Adams

“The administrative state has inserted its big paws into our houses, from the toilet bowl to the light socket. Now if it would just stretch those paws from the one to the other at the same time, we might begin to recapture the spirit of ’76.” –Scott Johnson, Powerlineblog.com

Just think of her as **a** Conservative advocate, not **thee** Conservative advocate

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 1:48PM EDT (link)

She speaks from the heart defending conservatism, and she helps raise money on behalf of conservative candidates. For that I am thankful. I don’t expect her to choose perfectly.

In August 2008, her stature skyrocketed as she was the lone Republican to land a haymaker on the then-invincible Barack “The Young Mike Tyson” Obama.

But times have changed. Barack “The Young Mike Tyson” Obama has atrophied into Barack “The Old Mike Tyson” Obama. In 2008, it seemed as if we conservatives would need a magically charismatic candidate that could overcome the spell Obama had cast on 52% of American voters. As the Conservative Rock Star, Palin best fit that job description. In 2012, however, we now see that “The One” will have to run on his record, not just on “Hopey Change” and “It’s all Bush’s fault.” (Unless he can figure out a way to run against himself.)

So, I for one am grateful for what Palin does. The glass mostly full.

As to our 2012 nominee, let’s just sit back and let nature take its course. My money’s on “the conservative that has the greatest impact fighting the Obama agenda.” I also think it will be an active elective official, as it is there that someone will have the greatest impact.


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I didn't know Palin was a Quaker. nt

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 1:53PM EDT (link)
 
 
 

Practical Matters

pamela1631 (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 9:52AM EDT (link)

Speaking strictly as a native Californian and a woman, I’ve noticed that people seem to have forgotten or are just tap dancing around the fact Carly Fiorina was treated for breast cancer a few months back.

Is she still in treatment ? Taking the cell inhibitors or some other mind fogging drug regimen? I know my 28 year old daughter was totally worn out while being treated for breast cancer last year.

It was months before her energy came back and the brain fog went away.

It is not practical to send a Senator to Washington who might be unable to give California 100% and be clear minded.

The Voters of California need to attend to practical matters.

Send Chuck Devore to Washington DC.

This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it. ~~Elmer Davis

I am stone forged from the fires of creation into flesh ~~Pamela1631

The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.~~Maj. L. Caudill, USMC (Ret.)

I think she finished her treatment

Neil Stevens (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 11:34AM EDT (link)

I believe she was wrapping it up just as she was starting to meet with potential donors.

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Read the RedState Posting Rules

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“I rejoice that America has resisted.” – William Pitt, the Elder

 

Running in the primary counts too

SteveLA (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 11:52AM EDT (link)

pamela1631

Fiorina running in any primary is a pretty much a test of stamina, and it appears she is holding up to that challenge. So is DeVore, and Campbell too, however Campbell’s campaign keeps turning Left for some reason.

Far as sending someone to DC to be our Senator, some would question if Babs Boxer is playing with full deck of cards, her deck being stacked with Liberal Jokers.

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Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests

Well...

pamela1631 (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 7:47PM EDT (link)

Any way you cut the various decks in play…

From Carly’s deck… may she have common decency to self-recuse herself from the primary should the cancer assert itself once again.

From Barb’s deck…I keep wondering if the amount of Botox hasn’t caused damage. One of these days, she’ll have one shot or procedure too many and the results will not be pretty.

It will be interesting to see how the cards fall.

This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it. ~~Elmer Davis

I am stone forged from the fires of creation into flesh ~~Pamela1631

The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.~~Maj. L. Caudill, USMC (Ret.)

 
 
 

I'm not a purist.

NeoKong (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 10:08AM EDT (link)

I don’t throw people overboard over one or two disagreements.
Sarah Palin has definitely been helpful to the conservative cause.
So we disagree over California. So what?
This is America and she is free to pick whoever she likes.

This is how I see it.
Here at RedState people are mostly red meat eaters politically speaking.
Erick is pushing for the prime rib medium rare while Sarah Palin wants a turkey burger.
Either way it is better than the hummus salad with tofu that we have now.
If Fiorina gets the nod and she wins then I will throw some ketchup on that and ask for a side of fries.

60% is better than nothing.
The important thing is that Boxer will be gone and a California Senate seat goes red.

Follow me on Twitter.

 

DeVore

kirstin Sunday, May 9th at 10:36AM EDT (link)

Amen. I’m not abandoning Chuck DeVore just because Sarah Palin endorsed someone else.

I read an online shrine to Sarah Palin that shall remain nameless where everyone instantly turned into a rapid Carly Fiorina supporter when Palin endorsed her. Please, people. DeVore is not a “spoiler” just because Palin endorsed someone else.

Imagine the nerve of a site

katiejane Sunday, May 9th at 12:28PM EDT (link)

that is openly pro-Palin chosing to support her decisions. How dare they not rip her apart . /s

Too bad some of the DeVore supporters couldn’t have exercised the same level of civil disagreement as EE has. Palin made a choice regarding HER endorsement – voters still can make their choice regarding who they support.

I believe the 'bashing' of Palin...

bs61 Sunday, May 9th at 10:59PM EDT (link)

Comes from the frustration of those who thought she was like them and wanted to save our country – now they see her as just another politician. Kinda like the passionate postings after healthcare passed.

Some people – me included, are pretty passionate and bound to go off once in a while as we watch Obama take away our freedom at record speed.

I’ve never been a huge Palin fan, but I see how popular she is, so I thought more for the RNC to replace that lackluster Steele. However, her endorsing Fiorna, does not change my opinion – I’m still rooting for DeVore & sending more $ his way.

 
 
 

Thankyou Eric for being civil:

boywonder Sunday, May 9th at 11:54AM EDT (link)

Finally a civil post that does not condem Palin.I thankyou Eric for not bashing Palin like so many are so quick to do these days.I also would like to see Devore challenge Boxer in the general.However I respect Palin for making a choice.One point she just might be considering is the location of this electorate.Ca is not a red state.Devore might poll well against Boxer right now, but lets look ahead to the fall.If the economy is still improving and more jobs returning.Will the tea party candidates be a factor?Ca voted 60-40% for Obama.Americas liberal media will spin an improving economy as a direct result of his fix it measures.If he introduces spending cuts that seem to attack his deficits, because of increased tax revenues.Combined with a few goodies like cutting taxes on small buisness.Will Devore be able to beat Boxer in a changed enviroment?Democrats will fire everything on the table, including huge add cash to try and keep power.Although I prefer Devore,Palins choice might make the most sense in this enviroment.Carly like her or not has cash,lots of it.She is more moderate and lets face facts,it is the left coast not Mississippi.This polling I fear could dramaticaly change by the fall into the democrats favour.Polls right now reflect an upset electorate,will they still be that way in 5 months?I keep thinking of that phrase.Never count your chickens before they hatch.An electorate can change so fast our heads spin.Look how fast it did in Mass in a single month,30 points,look how Corzine changed a 15 point gap to 5,he still lost but10 points that fast?Palin on this I hate to say, just might be right.I still however will cheer for Devore.

Cheering is not sufficient!

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 6:48AM EDT (link)

I do not think Carly is that much better than Babs. If she wins what have we gained really? Someone who will vote with us a couple more times a year, on issues that are not that important? Will Carly vote the right way in the really big issues that will further take this country down the path to destruction? Half measures will never get us all the way there. We have had squishy “halfers” in Washington for too long. Let us support someone who will do the right thing all the time, and hope he is articulate enough to convince the majority of California voters it is the right thing. Californians may lean left most of the time, but they are not all stupid. Their own state is in so much trouble, and they know it. So, if DeVore can explain clearly enough why he will be better at fixing what is wrong than Boxer will be, then they will give him his chance. So, let’s support DeVore, and hope he can express himself clearly.

 
 

The present leader of the CA Repub Senate race is "Undecided"

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 1:01PM EDT (link)

Pollster.com survey of polls

And when “Undecided” drops out of the race, I’m betting he/she will endorse the Tea Party candidate, Chuck DeVore.

Go Chuck!


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Who is "Other"

SteveLA (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 1:20PM EDT (link)

“Other” is polling at 3 percent, who the heck is “Other”?

It’s like 2 + 2 = Chartreuse

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I'm guessing it's the write-in candidate "Other"

6eorge Jetson (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 1:28PM EDT (link)

;)


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Tim Kalemkarian is "other"...who knew (nt)

SteveLA (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 1:32PM EDT (link)

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machiavelli

rbroskie Sunday, May 9th at 1:10PM EDT (link)

this is california right, where palin probably isnt very popular in the overall population. what is the possibility that endorsing fiorina is actually intended to be a millstone around her neck. devore may not get a palin endorsement, but what are the chances that a palin endorsement is actually any help in commie land anyway? having outmaneuvered her opposition at every turn, whats the possibility that palin’s playing chess while everybody else is playing checkers on this one. just a thought.

 

California Ballot Instructions

Erick Brockway (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 1:42PM EDT (link)

Watching debate now on Channel 7

joayn (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 2:48PM EDT (link)

Fiorina is looking very weak compared to DeVore and even Campbell.

I’m sticking with Chuck.

America is an idea; a noble idea that essentially boils down to the shocking belief that the masses are in fact not asses. John Nolte

I am also watching

SteveLA (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 2:58PM EDT (link)

I agree with you about Fiorina, talk about empty suit.

Cambell is just so wrong on the no fly list and other things that I find it amazing he’s a Republican, even a CA version of same.

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It's over. Chuck DeVore = Outstanding. nt

joayn (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 3:04PM EDT (link)

America is an idea; a noble idea that essentially boils down to the shocking belief that the masses are in fact not asses. John Nolte

I was shocked by one thing in the debate

RINKER Monday, May 10th at 9:30AM EDT (link)

Chuck DeVore is AGAINST our presence in Afghanistan??? While I’m nervous about Fiorina’s past “support” of cap-and-trade, (however you spin it), I am more disturbed by this statement from DeVore:

“The Taliban POSES NO EXISTENTIAL THREAT to the United States.”

He said he supports drone attacks against the Taliban leadership, but is against our troop presence. I’m still siding with Sarah…

 
 
 

Ditto - I'm with Chuck

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 3:16PM EDT (link)

Palin has just made ‘doing the right thing’ a little harder. She needs to figure things out and quit doing that. It’s not hard for a rising star to become a flash in the pan.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO

 

Emotional Reaction to Palin

kuksool (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 3:28PM EDT (link)

Redstate opposed Dan Coats and Bob Bennett. Yet Dick Cheney, Newt, and Romney endorsed Bennett. James Dobson and Mike Pence endorsed Dan Coats. Why aren’t people screaming bloody murder at those guys. Also Mike Hucakbee endosred Rubio, DeVore, and Sultzman. Yet, I don’t see any massive gravitation to Huckabee.

So why does Palin cause people to reaction emotionally to what she does? Personally, I think the media, talk radio, and bloggers overblow whatever Palin does and says.

I will tell you why...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 3:35PM EDT (link)

Palin was “supposed” to be different, she was supposed to be a part of the New Conservative Movement, ie: the TEA Party, she was NOT supposed to be an insider and lo and behold she is just like the rest of them, no different, nothing special, just a GOP insider, period!

 

I have an aversion to both! nt

bs61 Sunday, May 9th at 11:39PM EDT (link)
 

The big question

tjexcite (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 3:29PM EDT (link)

If DeVore does not win does that mean that we can write off California back to Boxer. Or will the whole collective right then support the winner the the people of California pick.

Same with Arizona and McCain/Hayworth If “your” favorite does not win is the game now over and time to try again in 2/6 years.

When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all

This is a STUPID response!...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 3:37PM EDT (link)

Conservatives have ALWAYS gotten behind the winner, take your STUPID question and ask the Republicans like Spectre and Crist whether they fall in line and get behind the Conservative, the answer is NO! Those of US on the RIGHTSIDE recognize the Socialist Party must be defeated whether WE get the Conservative or the GOP elite!

Amen!

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 7:06AM EDT (link)

Petulant pouting is unbecoming.

 
 
 

The sad news

bestwins Sunday, May 9th at 3:34PM EDT (link)

Because of the split of the conservative vote, we in CA are going to be left with the “Dem with an R after his name” Campbell. I like Chuck and donated to his campaign, but if his numbers don’t show some improvement (I’m talking primary numbers, not general) I’m going to vote to defeat Campbell. It’s been said before, maybe you have to turn the state purple before you can turn it red.

It's Chuck or we're doomed!

swanie Monday, May 10th at 1:58AM EDT (link)

Must disagree here! We cannot accept “purple” or anything other than pure Red…i.e. Chuck Devore. This is very simple…if we do not seat Chuck then we either get Boxer again or Boxer-lite! The real danger in seating another RINO is that the Republicans end up getting beaten up all over again (think Arnold, Bush…all the RINOs who have driven us to the edge of the cliff).
Devore has the perfect storm to pull this off and we (conservatives) must do everything we can to help him win this primary!
Remember, when he wins the primary, he automatically gets the support ($) of Fiorina, Campbell and the GOP. Roll up your sleeves and help fix our state my friend…no more sell outs…no more RINOs.

Agree! If you turn California "purple" it is

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 7:11AM EDT (link)

still purple. We need it to be red. If we show them that conservatism actually works the way we say it does, maybe they will be permanently “dyed in the wool” red. That is what converts most people to conservatism, they realize it actually works. So, let’s not try for purple, because then we are stuck with purple!

I don't disagree

bestwins Monday, May 10th at 11:13AM EDT (link)

with either of you. If you read my post carefully, you’ll find that I am in Chuck’s camp. He has a couple of weeks to improve his numbers, so we’ll see what happens. In the end, if Campbell is still the front runner, I’ll do all I can to see that he doesn’t win the primary. If you think blue to purple is selling out, how do you justify blue staying blue if Campbell wins? Putting an R after Campbell’s name doesn’t change the hue one bit.

 
 
 
 

Good for you Erick

philbo Sunday, May 9th at 6:11PM EDT (link)

I’m intensifying my support for DeVore and I’ve had it with Palin. I wish she would go away. We don’t need yet another partly-pregnant and sometimes honest “conservative”. There is no defending her endorsement of Fiorina, especially when her endorsement statement contained so many factual errors.

It may be true that Fiorina doesn’t back Obama’s amnesty position but she definitely supports McCain’s (and so Palin’s).

Go away Sarah.

Pasadena Phil

 

Some may be missing the key point

SirGladiator (Diary) Sunday, May 9th at 7:31PM EDT (link)

If you look at it strictly as ‘Is DeVore or Fiorina more Conservative?’ then of course you don’t understand why Sarah endorsed Fiorina, as DeVore is clearly the more Conservative candidate in the race. If that is literally all you care about, and winning and losing means nothing to you, then you’re definitely going to disagree with her endorsement of Fiorina. But if you realize that the difference between DeVore and Fiorina is much much MUCH, a MILLION times less than it is between either one and Tom Campbell, the liberal Democrat currently leading the GOP Primary, then you’ll understand why its far more important to support the one who has the best chance of beating Campbell, and that of course is Fiorina. I supported DeVore because he was the best candidate, now that its clear that his chances of winning are virtually zero, Im focused totally on supporting the candidate that can prevent the far-left vs farther-left matchup in November that we would get if it were Boxer vs Campbell. The candidate who can prevent that is Fiorina, that’s why Sarah endorsed her, and I agree with that 100%.

Polling 20% pre-primary in a three-way race is not

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 7:17AM EDT (link)

virtually zero! Lets see what the polling numbers are after the debates, and then decide. If Campbell tanked the debate, then there should be some movement in the numbers. Fiorina is more like Babs than you think!

The polling isn't virtually zero but I'd like to see Moe's take

Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 1:53PM EDT (link)

I’d like to see what Moe would say the chances are that DeVore is actually leading.

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I don't understand your interpretation of polling

Adjoran (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 12:27AM EDT (link)

Unless the intent was to deliberately spin it for DeVore.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/ca/10-ca-sen-reppr.php

DeVore’s highest has never reached Fiorina’s lowest rating, and the most recent shows her within striking distance of Campbell (34-27-14), with DeVore’s support barely over 40% of Campbell’s and just over half of Fiorina’s.

The primary is four weeks from Tuesday, so there is at least theoretically time to make up a lot of ground. Has DeVore shown the sort of fund-raising results needed to fuel such a comeback in California’s expensive media markets? Not that I’ve seen evidence of. Not by a long shot.

But then, maybe I’m just a pessimist. Heck, I don’t believe in Magic Unicorns, either.

He's talking about general election polling

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 12:32AM EDT (link)

The whole argument for Fiorina is that she’s “more electable” when there’s not a shred of evidence for that, just a misconception that she’s a rabid pro-abort monster like Whitman.

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Using general election polling before the primary

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 7:22AM EDT (link)

is what gets squishy RINOs on the ballot. He doesn’t believe in Magic Unicorns, but he believes Carly is on our side! I say go for what we need, and then if the squish wins the primary anyway, support the squish, but don’t start with the squish, because then you can never get anything but squishes! No more supporting RINOs in primaries!

 
 
 

4DeVore

gmiller Monday, May 10th at 1:33AM EDT (link)

Thanks you for standing firm with Chuck, Red State has more sense than Red County, who bought the Fiorono/GOP hatchet job on Chuck hook, line and sinker,

Palin has severely disappointed us, first endorsing RINO McCain, now Carly. Carly is a fine woman and gets unwarranted criticism for the HP firing, but is not Conservative enough for what is needed now.

DeVore clearly shone in the Sunday debate, with Carly second. Tom looked like the tired old RINO that he is.

 

was it Buckley who advocated

dudette Monday, May 10th at 7:36AM EDT (link)

picking the closest person to a conservative who can win? Maybe that is the thing behind palin and fiorina. But polls now are showing otherwise….i wonder what polls were showing early on

 

I get the McCain endorsement

dwscho Monday, May 10th at 9:24AM EDT (link)

but I don’t get Carly. I think Sarah is beginning to show signs of being pulled in line by the Republican establishment. I stand behing Chuck DeVore as he is truly the conservative candidate. Carly professes to be conservative although her past support for Cap and Tax, the bailouts, etc. suggest she is no more conservative than her neighbor, Nancy Pelozzi.

I beleive Sarah is losing it but, she can surely endorse whomever she likes.

No one is pulling her

satchmo Monday, May 10th at 11:25AM EDT (link)

she’s doing it herself because this is who she is at her core.

 

Carly is better than Babs

Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 1:38PM EDT (link)

The reason Palin made the endorsement is probably because she worked with Fiorina during the prez campaign.

But beyond this, you have to recognize that California is a BLUE state and the best we can hope for in BLUE states is to effect control of the Senate by getting moderates just like we have the Maine sisters.

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Sure I can, and I do

satchmo Monday, May 10th at 11:22AM EDT (link)

“but you cannot deny this woman is fundamentally conservative…”

And yet, I do deny that she is fundamentally conservative. She isn’t a conservative at all.

 

I am with you Erick

lindabrecht Monday, May 10th at 11:46AM EDT (link)

I am going to follow my conservative instincts. I will not fall for the “This is the best we can get” line of crap, that I swallowed with Arnold. I am disabled and do not get out much, so I have more time to read and focus on issues, than most of my friends. A few people rely on me to help them choose the MOST conservative in any issue or candidate. I am going to tell my little group and any who ask to vote for Chuck DeVore.

 

Staying with DeVore is like voting Libertarian

Change Jar Conservative (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 1:35PM EDT (link)

There becomes a time where you have to make a jump.

Rubio was down in the polls but that was a LONG time before the election.

DeVore is down in the polls and that is with DeVore getting a lot of publicity.

Essentially, the GOP in California has decided that DeVore can’t win it so they are splitting between the liberal ( Campbell ), the dufus moderate ( Fiorina ) and a bit for DeVore …

At this point, backing Devore is like backing a Libertarian against a liberal Republican. It may help you sleep better at night, but it’s a complete waste of time, money, and opportunity.

The question is do you want to have a Republican Senator in California?

Do you want to have a say in if that is Fiorina or Campbell?

If not then vote for DeVore.

If so then pick the idiot who claims to be conservative ( Fiorina ) or the guy who makes no claim to be a conservative ( Campbell ).

Frankly, wasting money on DeVore is a waste of money that could be spent someplace else where a conservative has a chance to win.

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No, don't be silly

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 1:42PM EDT (link)

Participating in the Republican Party process is nothing like being a sour grapes third party voter.

That’s just nonsense to make that comparison.

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Sorry Oz, you are incorrect...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 10th at 2:07PM EDT (link)

DeVore gained 5 points in the last round on polling with 25% still undecided. That polling occurred right after a major radio ad campaign went on the air for DeVore.

When we see polling come out again DeVore could have closed the gap on Fiorina. Especially with his stellar performance in last nights debate.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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No More Mavericks.

pburton Monday, May 10th at 4:52PM EDT (link)

Editor
S.F. Examiner

By default, the GOP is the opposition party. Therefore, it was necessary to register Republican in hope of putting a viable conservative in the Senate race (Chuck DeVore).

In the race for governor, Meg Whitman is non-starter. Her unprincipled stand against rule of law (immigration enforcement) and the second amendment don’t cut it. Hell, Jerry Brown is better placed with regard to guns. That should tell us something.

No more Maverick Arnolds, that’s for sure.

P. Burton
San Francisco
05/04/10